Big Brother Supports Racism

[shinystar]

BIG BROTHER is supporting racism and turning a blind eye to it. I cannot believe such ignorants and channel4 is probably encouraging the act.

I cannot believe such channels encourage such acts. BIG BROTHER is breeding a new HITLER.

Shilpa is reportedly denied it not racism simply out of sympathy because she is being watched and BIG BROTHER a snake.

[Cody™]

shilpa has denied it cuz she doesnt know half the stuff sed behind her back!

[Hippy]

I don't believe BB supports racism, I believe they are taking the opportunity to highlight the issues. From what I've seen on the news coverage around the world today I think it's working.

[shinystar]

Of course she denied it because she doesn't have an aerial view of the whole situation. I think there must have been a secret push to get Shilpa confession to avoid legal action.

[bonnie43uk]

i take a more measured view.. they obviously dont support racism.. think about what you are saying my friend. They've been caught in a Hurricane of unprecedented uproar, fuelled by the media.. and the Goody clan.
Normality will be rusumed tomorrow when Jade the Ignorant one gets evicted.
i hope its a landslide percentage .. lets hope India get her eviction text number so they can join in.

[abs]

its all gone pet tong

[Dan_]

They have called Danielle and Jade into the diary room and took them to task over what they had being saying about Shilpa.

[Cody™]

are india allowed to vote?

[Crazy4Shilpa]

If Shilpa gets evicted, then Britain supports all of Jade's actions. I hope that's not going to happen!

[shinystar]

Originally posted by Hippy
I don't believe BB supports racism, I believe they are taking the opportunity to highlight the issues. From what I've seen on the news coverage around the world today I think it's working.

If they are not supporting it why are they denying the facts? Jade Goofy bf called Shilpa a ****. Ain't that a racist word in the dictionary? Check here: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=57124&dict=CALD

[Rory]

I agree. I highly doubt Shilpa will leave, that'd be cruel and unfair.

[bonnie43uk]

Originally posted by krazy1
are india allowed to vote?

i darn well hope so.. i cant see any reason why they wont be able to .. fingers crossed!

[The_Hitman]

Haha. Just imagine if they got the number in India!!! Theres about 50 ********n billion of em!!! Jades done for.

[bonnie43uk]

Originally posted by shinystar
Originally posted by Hippy
I don't believe BB supports racism, I believe they are taking the opportunity to highlight the issues. From what I've seen on the news coverage around the world today I think it's working.

If they are not supporting it why are they denying the facts? Jade Goofy bf called Shilpa a pa**. Ain't that a racist word in the dictionary? Check here: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=57124&dict=CALD

i've been trying to find out the truth about wether or not Jack said P**i or ****** ..either way his behaviour was disgusting.

[Donkeylegs]

i honestly believe becuase the of eviction candidate that Danielle and Jo and slipping out of this nicely.

Forgetting the BB "eviction "marlarky for a second, these two were directly involved in the same issue of racism and bullying.


you cant be a gang or a "coven" if theres just one of you.

i really hope they get the same punishment, i fear by next week the words of "under the influence" will be continuously repeated.

[Nikkos]

lmao thought you must have been a newbie

[Donkeylegs]

what?

read my previous comments on the show numbnuts

Warning issued for insulting the intelligence of other members - Red

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by krazy1
are india allowed to vote?

I guess they take off the leading zero and add +44.

[shinystar]

Originally posted by bonnie43uk
Originally posted by shinystar
Originally posted by Hippy
I don't believe BB supports racism, I believe they are taking the opportunity to highlight the issues. From what I've seen on the news coverage around the world today I think it's working.

If they are not supporting it why are they denying the facts? Jade Goofy bf called Shilpa a pa**. Ain't that a racist word in the dictionary? Check here: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=57124&dict=CALD

i've been trying to find out the truth about wether or not Jack said P**i or ****** ..either way his behaviour was disgusting.

I don't think your ever find the facts because it would be edited over because channel4 would not allow anything like this to get out otherwise they will get a hefty fine. If anyone recorded it now that would bring be a story to write.

Regardless of what been said, the three made offensive remarks about her culture habits and other cultures and that in itself is racist either directly or indirectly applied.

[S2]

C4 are sly. They called in Shilpa after she said "it is racist" but when they called her in, they didn't make it all clear to her. She thought they were asking her about the argument with Jade which started from oxo cubes. So if you are fighting about oxo cubes, thats hardly going to give reason for Shilpa to say "Big brother, jade &co used all my oxo cubes, I think thats very racist".

They need to tell her all that Jackiey, Jade, Jack, Danielle and Jo have said about her and then let her form an opinion. And then she will say it is racism.

What C4 and Endamol have done is dusgusting

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
C4 are sly. They called in Shilpa after she said "it is racist" but when they called her in, they didn't make it all clear to her. She thought they were asking her about the argument with Jade which started from oxo cubes.

Sorry to have to disagree, but I feel you are insulting the intelligence of a very articulate woman. She knew what Big Brother was talking about from what I saw.

[naughtynert]

now they have had jade and danielle in the diary room to ask what they meant by there comments about shilpa..when is it shilpas turn to be questioned on what she means when she said to jade she is white trash?.... all is fair :spin2:

[S2]

Originally posted by Red Moon


Sorry to have to disagree, but I feel you are insulting the intelligence of a very articulate woman. She knew what Big Brother was talking about from what I saw.


No actually I am not. She picked up on that they picked up on her conversation with Cleo when she said "it is, it is racist".
Did they tell her that Danielle said for her to "****** off home?" coz that was insulting that they didn't tell her the full picture and got a statement of "no, theres no racism going on here".

[naughtynert]

yes and if jade get evicted then ppl in england are not allowed free speech or argue with an member of the asain community without being branded a racist?... shipla hasnt been the angel some ppl claim either, so will her actions be accepatble if jade goes?

Even shilpa's mother has said her daughter has been wrapped in cotton wool and had most things done for her for most of her life and she dosent think its racial within the big bro house and she's been watching the show..so has seen how her daughter has behaved too.

[bovvered?]

Just to let you know I live in another country and unfortunately you cant vote, (unless you still have a UK mobile)....

Which I have:thumbs:

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by naughtynert
now they have had jade and danielle in the diary room to ask what they meant by there comments about shilpa..when is it shilpas turn to be questioned on what she means when she said to jade she is white trash?.... all is fair :spin2:

Yeah, that would be GREAT if it actually happened.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
No actually I am not. She picked up on that they picked up on her conversation with Cleo when she said "it is, it is racist".
Did they tell her that Danielle said for her to "****** off home?" coz that was insulting that they didn't tell her the full picture and got a statement of "no, theres no racism going on here".

But if someone told me that I would feel insulted but I wouldn't take it as racism. The only reason you would take it that way in argument if I was a racist and thought everyone was out to get me and I was in another country at the the time. Shilpa is better than that. She understands what such a comment might mean in the context it was said.

[naughtynert]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
Originally posted by Red Moon


Sorry to have to disagree, but I feel you are insulting the intelligence of a very articulate woman. She knew what Big Brother was talking about from what I saw.


No actually I am not. She picked up on that they picked up on her conversation with Cleo when she said "it is, it is racist".
Did they tell her that Danielle said for her to "****** off home?" coz that was insulting that they didn't tell her the full picture and got a statement of "no, theres no racism going on here".


If danielle was being racist she would have said go home to pakistan or india..she merley said go home as in where you live, how is this racist?.... so if i said to my next door neighbour who is black american you going home later im a racist?... all this is getting out of hand and its going to start riots again if its not carefull.

[naughtynert]

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by naughtynert
now they have had jade and danielle in the diary room to ask what they meant by there comments about shilpa..when is it shilpas turn to be questioned on what she means when she said to jade she is white trash?.... all is fair :spin2:

Yeah, that would be GREAT if it actually happened.

to the last post that told me to ****** off..... why?...no need for that.

[naughtynert]

Originally posted by shinystar
BIG BROTHER is supporting racism and turning a blind eye to it. I cannot believe such ignorants and channel4 is probably encouraging the act.

I cannot believe such channels encourage such acts. BIG BROTHER is breeding a new HITLER.

Shilpa is reportedly denied it not racism simply out of sympathy because she is being watched and BIG BROTHER a snake.

the only thing they are turning a blind eye to is shipla comments to other members.... ie "white trash remark" all the fuss is focused around shipla all the time and i think its unfair she should be hauled off to the diary room and asked why she made certain comments about other members..im sorry if i was refered to as white trash i would consider it to be a racist comment but we dont get the protection or the fuss put on us we have to live with it all the time.....

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by naughtynert
Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by naughtynert
now they have had jade and danielle in the diary room to ask what they meant by there comments about shilpa..when is it shilpas turn to be questioned on what she means when she said to jade she is white trash?.... all is fair :spin2:

Yeah, that would be GREAT if it actually happened.

to the last post that told me to ****** off..... why?...no need for that.

Only god knows what youre talkin about now.

Are you a Goody employee?

[naughtynert]

Originally posted by krazy1
shilpa has denied it cuz she doesnt know half the stuff sed behind her back!

neither do the some of the other house mates know what she has said behind their backs....its all a one sided debate in shipla's favour and it should'nt be

[S2]

Originally posted by naughtynert
yes and if jade get evicted then people in england are not allowed free speech or argue with an member of the asain community without being branded a racist?... shipla hasnt been the angel some people claim either, so will her actions be accepatble if jade goes?

Even shilpa's mother has said her daughter has been wrapped in cotton wool and had most things done for her for most of her life and she dosent think its racial within the big bro house and she's been watching the show..so has seen how her daughter has behaved too.


Have you even watched Shilpas' mothers interview? Because if you have, you'd know that Shilpas' mother hasn't seen the show, as its not available in India and they've just had to be content with the news over the internet. So first, get accurate information rather than making it up.

And who said, if you are seen talking with an asian, you'll be branded a racist. Stop making alleged assumptions.

[naughtynert]

Originally posted by krazy1
shilpa has denied it cuz she doesnt know half the stuff sed behind her back!

so why is shilpa in the house if she dont want the claim for fame?.... to re-launch her career, for the money at the end of it?... oh she went in because she felt like it..yes right!.. sorry but does it matter how jade became famous?... she's a celb n so is shipla. The only thing i disagree with this years big bro is jades mum and boyfriend are not celebs and should not have gone in.

[S2]

Originally posted by Red Moon

But if someone told me that I would feel insulted but I wouldn't take it as racism. The only reason you would take it that way in argument if I was a racist and thought everyone was out to get me and I was in another country at the the time. Shilpa is better than that. She understands what such a comment might mean in the context it was said.

You are right Shilpa is better than that, and when she comes out the house and sees all the clippings, she'll then take the right needed action.

One of the following or more is racist.

Danielle:- "I wish she'd just F off back home"
- "she wants to be white"
- "They eat with their hands in India, don't they"
- imitation of shilpas comments by way of mocking her peoples accent.
- she can't even speak english

Jade:-"go back to the slums"

jacky:- "that Indian"
- "do you live in a house or a shack?"
- On seeing Shilpa wearing a shawl "look at what you are wearing? If I was your mother, i'd beat you out the kitchen with an indian broom"

Jack:
i believe he called her the P word, but i wont specualte.

jo-
- "they're all hairy, aren't they"
- imitation of shilpas comments by way of mocking her peoples accent
- Indians are thin because they are always sick over their food

[S2]

Originally posted by naughtynert

If danielle was being racist she would have said go home to pakistan or india..she merley said go home as in where you live, how is this racist?.... so if i said to my next door neighbour who is black american you going home later Im a racist?... all this is getting out of hand and its going to start riots again if its not carefull.

At the em-bolded bit - If you say to your american neighbour " you going home later" then you are asking a damn question, not telling them to go home!
And telling Shilpa to "****** off home" is racist. She is a guest to this country, who has been asked to leave for no just cause. If Shilpa left the BB house, where would she go? Home to India, because she has no home in the UK

[Red Moon]

But now we are leaving the topic and getting on to the racism debate and that works two ways.

Different cultures have different opinions of each other. Look how Bush virtually thinks every person that follows the islam faith is a terrorist. It's wrong but he does it. He is planning to go to war with Iran. Why because he believes his right. That is racism. America the great and all that. That is racism too. Is Bush right?

or

Are the Islam nations right in thinking they are right, that America is the evil nation because that could be considered racist too.

We have to try and understand this, learn from it and grow. Channel 4 have, by mistake opened a can of worms that needed opening. It needs to be a global debate and not just a national one.

[S2]

Originally posted by Red Moon
But now we are leaving the topic and getting on to the racism debate and that works two ways.
Different cultures have different opinions of each other. Look how Bush virtually thinks every person that follows the islam faith is a terrorist. It's wrong but he does it. He is planning to go to war with Iran. Why because he believes his right. That is racism. America the great and all that. That is racism too. Is Bush right?
or
Are the Islam nations right in thinking they are right, that America is the evil nation because that could be considered racist too.
We have to try and understand this, learn from it and grow. Channel 4 have, by mistake opened a can of worms that needed opening. It needs to be a global debate and not just a national one.

I dont't mean to be rude but please don't bring religion to show a point. Bush is scum, his father too, so his scum ways will lead him to his death.
There will be culture clashes, yes, but this game is equal to all, and all should be protected too. Whether they are aware of it or not. Like how they did with Jade and Danielle, they made them aware of the goings on and their actions. Have they donw that with Shilpa? Have they told her the horrid names she has been caled? No!!!
Endamol are protecting jade for various reasons other than the fact she shares the same agent as Russel, Dermot etc who are also quick to defend Jade yet brush everyone elses comments that are anti-Jade.
What a bunch of moronic weak losers

[rex3]

they dont support racism... but they have manipulated it, to potray the issue

[Edwin]

Originally posted by shinystar
If they are not supporting it why are they denying the facts? Jade Goofy bf called Shilpa a pa**. Ain't that a racist word in the dictionary? Check here: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=57124&dict=CALD

Channel 4 and BBC news confirmed that Jack called Shilpa a "*******". Derogative, yes, racist, no.

[shinystar]

Originally posted by naughtynert
Originally posted by shinystar
BIG BROTHER is supporting racism and turning a blind eye to it. I cannot believe such ignorants and channel4 is probably encouraging the act.

I cannot believe such channels encourage such acts. BIG BROTHER is breeding a new HITLER.

Shilpa is reportedly denied it not racism simply out of sympathy because she is being watched and BIG BROTHER a snake.

the only thing they are turning a blind eye to is shipla comments to other members.... ie "white trash remark" all the fuss is focused around shipla all the time and i think its unfair she should be hauled off to the diary room and asked why she made certain comments about other members..Im sorry if i was refered to as white trash i would consider it to be a racist comment but we dont get the protection or the fuss put on us we have to live with it all the time.....

I haven't heard these words come from Shilpa and that did not happened but it could be from another contestant. Either way, if you’re talking about fairness then you would need to consider how this racist behaviour was brought about. I mean, what did Shilpa do at the beginning to go down this road? You have to ask yourself the question. Did she go out of her way to cause offence to other people culture or country?

Jade Goofy, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara all pounced on an innocent girl to degrade her in all manners and form along with her country and others.

“Jo O'Meara” said do Indians eat with their fingers? And someone I think Danielle muttered Or is that Chinese? What sort of comment is that? That a comment to degrade a country in all form. I buy a portion of Chips “Opened” so am I suppose to eat that from a dog bowl and not use my fingers? Because that what dogs do! Or how about a sandwich?

Now, in the second or third day running someone is using the word, "White Trash"?

I would say if anyone is now using that remark this would have been brought out from a person un-subconscious level which clearly states this is about racism. Normally, if you’re going to argue, dignified people will use similar words against each other. If it a racist issue, then in one un-subconscious mind then one would use a racist term to degrade the other since this is what it really about. So now it clear - this whole ordeal is about racism and you have solidified the truth.

[Dan_]

I thought it was Jermaine that used the term 'white trash' anyway, that was a term he used to say what they would be called in America.

Seeing as it's an American phrase I'd be suprised if it was Shilpa using it.

[S2]

^Shilpa did not use that term or anyting similiar to it either.

In regards to eating with your hands, how do you eat chips? crisps? A McDonalds meal? Don't tell me we are meant to use a knife and fork for that?

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by BB fernzy
I thought it was Jermaine that used the term 'white trash' anyway, that was a term he used to say what they would be called in America.

Seeing as it's an American phrase I'd be suprised if it was Shilpa using it.

Yes, but these Goody fans are using the same philosophy as Jade.

LIES.

Theyre spreading lies all over this forum.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by BB fernzy
I thought it was Jermaine that used the term 'white trash' anyway, that was a term he used to say what they would be called in America.

Seeing as it's an American phrase I'd be suprised if it was Shilpa using it.

Yes, but these Goody fans are using the same philosophy as Jade.

LIES.

Theyre spreading lies all over this forum.

I know, it seemed that some were trying to make out Jermaine to be racist over the whole white trash phrase when all he was doing was describing how they would be perceived in America.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
I dont't mean to be rude but please don't bring religion to show a point. Bush is scum, his father too, so his scum ways will lead him to his death.

I agree about Bush not being a nice person. But bringing religion into the this discussion about the show is as valid as bring in the race card. We could also bring in the nationalist card, or regionalist card and many more. We could say every time a housemate makes a comment that Joe comes from Essex it is regionalist insult. How many times have the group of three been insulted on the site with statements to where they come from. Indeed at one point the whole of Britain was said to be racist which can't be true. Without checking I guess you come from Britain and you are not racist.

Everything is said in some kind of context. Bush believes what he does is right because on 9/11 and he thinks the whole of the Islamic world is out to get America. That is his context for his opinion.

What you saw on the show and how Shilpa is treated is you context for your views. Shilpa's context is different because she is in the house. Who is right in this issue, well neither of you. The truth is somewhere between the two. You are not in the house and Shilpa hasn't seen everything. The truth, you must agree, is somewhere in the middle. You are just an observer while she is the player. And even as an observer you are only allowed to see what the producers want you to see.

Nothing is clear cut. Yes Shilpa is good housemate, Jade is in the wrong but at the end of the day it's just a game show. It's important because it has fueled this discussion in the UK.

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
There will be culture clashes, yes, but this game is equal to all, and all should be protected too. Whether they are aware of it or not. Like how they did with Jade and Danielle, they made them aware of the goings on and their actions. Have they donw that with Shilpa? Have they told her the horrid names she has been caled? No!!!

They made them aware of the problem because 27,000 people complained to Ofcom and they had to do something. If the people didn't want them to do something why complian. Now they have done something people are complaining about it. Channel 4 can't win.

Until we see the whole of the Shilpa Diary room we will never know if they showed her everything we have seen. Maybe we will never know. But what I do know is we have the chance to vote out Jade. So lets do it.

Originally posted by Shilpa_FanEndamol are protecting jade for various reasons other than the fact she shares the same agent as Russel, Dermot etc who are also quick to defend Jade yet brush everyone elses comments that are anti-Jade.

What a bunch of moronic weak losers

People love conspiracy theories . Endamol are in it to make money. The more the show is noticed the more money they make in future. And the higher the share price. Do they care about Jade, I don't think so or they wouldn't have let her go back in the house to make a fool of herself. They just wanted more viewers.

[shinystar]

Originally posted by Edwin
Originally posted by shinystar
If they are not supporting it why are they denying the facts? Jade Goofy bf called Shilpa a pa**. Ain't that a racist word in the dictionary? Check here: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=57124&dict=CALD

Channel 4 and BBC news confirmed that Jack called Shilpa a "*******". Derogative, yes, racist, no.

Even if Jack called her a **** or **** it all very obvious and you will probably never know the truth because they probably edited or dubbed the words. Jack, Jade Goofy, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara are all part of a racist crime. They grouped together over laughing at each other jokes/comments when it not even funny just to cause maximum humiliation. They are not just any jokes but indirect racist jokes which are closely connected to being a foreigner.

You don't need to say the words because racism is written all over their body language. The body language never lies. If you can't see the hurt that they have caused then your ignorant is bliss.

[ttw]

I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.

[hass]

so just by her body language you can tell she is racist? get a grip. if i snarl someone in the street, it might be simply because i dont like them, not because they are black.

[shinystar]

Originally posted by ttw
I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.

If channel4 arn't that stupid they should have removed Jade the new breed of Hitler from the house to show racsim isn't tolerated. Instead they let it brew which goes to show they support it.

[ttw]

Originally posted by hass
so just by her body language you can tell she is racist? get a grip. if i snarl someone in the street, it might be simply because i dont like them, not because they are black.

agree

[ttw]

Originally posted by shinystar
Originally posted by ttw
I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.

If channel4 arn't that stupid they should have removed Jade the new breed of Hitler from the house to show racsim isn't tolerated. Instead they let it brew which goes to show they support it.

Jade had not made any racial remarks

[hass]

Originally posted by naughtynert
yes and if jade get evicted then people in england are not allowed free speech or argue with an member of the asain community without being branded a racist?... shipla hasnt been the angel some people claim either, so will her actions be accepatble if jade goes?

Even shilpa's mother has said her daughter has been wrapped in cotton wool and had most things done for her for most of her life and she dosent think its racial within the big bro house and she's been watching the show..so has seen how her daughter has behaved too.

Exactly.

[shinystar]

Originally posted by ttw
Originally posted by hass
so just by her body language you can tell she is racist? get a grip. if i snarl someone in the street, it might be simply because i dont like them, not because they are black.

agree

Given the verbal abuse along with body language that been portrayed that creates a recipe for racism. What you describe yourself to others is plain arrogant and ignorance to a civilise society.

[shinystar]

Originally posted by ttw
Originally posted by shinystar
Originally posted by ttw
I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.

If channel4 arn't that stupid they should have removed Jade the new breed of Hitler from the house to show racsim isn't tolerated. Instead they let it brew which goes to show they support it.

Jade had not made any racial remarks

Calling someone a Popperdom to mark the origins of where you from? What has that got to do with any arguments? That indirectly reciting racism.

And it not just Jade, it a group activity pouncing on a victim to degrade her in the lowest manner possible. Big brother has no doubt brought out the dark side of this group.

[Bahn]

I think they were hoping for nice tabloid style fighting where wotshitfaces from S Club 7 and Steps would round on the journalist and start saying "Why did you write this about me?". I imagine the whole race hate thing wasn't planned.

Maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think so, they lost their sponsor.

[shinystar]

BIG BROTHER is breaking their own rules to ban crowd and providing advice to evictees as reported by BBC here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6277875.stm

If there not going to follow their traditional BIG BROTHER eviction style procedures that goes against the morals of Shilpa enduring taunting remarks.

It seems very apparent BIG BROTHER is playing the racism game their way.

I think the moral of BIG BROTHER is unjustified. If they want to show support they should have pulled Jade a very long time ago but it was greed and money that fuels BIG BROTHER until their sponsor pulled out.