Female Student Being Wrestled Down by Police Officer in School

[Samm]

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Full Story: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/26/video-cop-bodyslams-girl-student-who-refuses-to-leave-classroom.html

This is disgusting, she only refused to leave the classroom.

[Daniel.]

WTF :umm2:.

[Marsh.]

Some kids need a firm hand.

[Denver]

He did that to me I'll smack a chair on his head.

I hate that some police officers feel they have a right to abuse

[Daniel.]

Honestly what is wrong with the world :mooriah:

[Ninastar]

how do you know that it's only because she refused to leave the classroom?

[Jordan.]

I laughed

[Marsh.]

She was clearly a drug dealer armed with knives.

[Samm]

how do you know that it's only because she refused to leave the classroom?

"student for refusing to leave her classroom." it says that from the source.

[Jack_]

MGQaH3-LK54

[Kizzy]

Is this a drama exercise? Not one other person reacted.

[Ninastar]

"student for refusing to leave her classroom." it says that from the source.

ah yes, i forgot that everything on the internet was real!

[Cal.]

"The student was told she was under arrest for disturbing school and given instructions which she again refused," Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott told WISTV. "The video then shows the student resisting and being arrested."

[Samm]

ah yes, i forgot that everything on the internet was real!

Well it doesn't really need a reason at all, since if she was carrying a gun/or doing something really bad that the officer would need to physically tackle her down to the floor it would of been all over the media.

[Ninastar]

Well it doesn't really need a reason at all, since if she was carrying a gun/or doing something really bad that the officer would need to physically tackle her down to the floor it would of been all over the media.


i dont think you know how the media works. they only talk badly of the police these days

[Samm]

i dont think you know how the media works. they only talk badly of the police these days

In America they should do, not all of the police of course, but it's so messed up in America that some police officers are members of the KKK.

[Marsh.]

In America they should do, not all of the police of course, but it's so messed up in America that some police officers are members of the KKK.

He threw that chick across the floor because she creased his bedsheet?

[Liam-]

Isn't that what the police do to everyone that resits arrest?

[Marsh.]

resits arrest?

So that's why she was in a classroom. :think:

[Kizzy]

So by some fuzzy logic Black students should be assumed to have done something to warrant being abused?

[Samm]

Isn't that what the police do to everyone that resits arrest?

No, they don't physically throw people across a room I think.

[Marsh.]

No, they don't physically throw people across a room I think.

He was trying to pull her out of those strange baby carriages that Americans use for teenagers in schools. :joker:

[bots]

we are only seeing a snapshot, we have no idea the strength of any confrontation before it was filmed. However, if she was asked twice to leave the classroom, once by the police, she should expect to be forceablely ejected, which is what happened

[Marsh.]

So by some fuzzy logic Black students should be assumed to have done something to warrant being abused?

Doubt it. Going by the video it looks as though the school has a large black population (possibly majority). She must have done something other than have black skin.

[Liam-]

So that's why she was in a classroom. :think:

If a cop is looking for a teenager, the last place they'd expect to look is a classroom :hehe:

No, they don't physically throw people across a room I think.

Depends how light they are I suppose.

[Ninastar]

The social justice warriors who act like police officers are racist everytime they restrain someone who isn't white?

How dare you speak sense.

[Marsh.]

I blame the ****ing awkward furniture used in American schools.

[Samm]

Um tbh I used to get annoyed when I logged into tumblr and saw all the posts about how officers only attack black people which is not true, but after seeing some videos of these attacks some of them are really shocking.

And it's surprising how most if not all the videos come from the usa.

[Marsh.]

But where are all of the videos of white people being thrown about?

Not reverse racism?

[Liam-]

No-one feels the need to record white people being restrained because it's not something they feel the need to complain about

[Samm]

Reverse racism doesn't exists, that's like gay people can make homophobic comments about straight people

[Ninastar]

But where are all of the videos of white people being thrown about?

Not reverse racism?

Literally watch cops, traffic heros or any of these non biased shows you get on TV.

You'll never see it happen to white people on the Internet, because apparently only POC are ever treated badly (by anyone)

[Denver]

Reverse racism doesn't exists, that's like gay people can make homophobic comments about straight people

White people can be and are racially abused but its seen as acceptable so nobody takes note

[Samm]

I'm not targeting all the cops in the entire world?

[LukeB]

The cop was OTT, he shouldn't have done what he did, she just refused to leave a classroom which is nothing bad, she didn't give him a reason to do that.

[Daniel.]

The social justice warriors who act like police officers are racist everytime they restrain someone who isn't white?

idk what you mean or how this relates to my post but drag it

[Marsh.]

Reverse racism doesn't exists, that's like gay people can make homophobic comments about straight people

Well that's not really a valid comparison is it?

The term "homophobic" is specifically about "homosexuals".
Racism is a broad term and can affect any race, not just someone with dark skin.

[Jordan.]

That cop was OTT, he shouldn't have done that, she just refused to leave a classroom which is nothing bad, she didn't give him a reason to do that.

She was under arrest. Is he supposed to stand their and wait for her to finish her tantrum or do his job?

[Jordan.]

idk what you mean or how this relates to my post but drag it

It wasn't hard to understand

[LukeB]

She was under arrest. Is he supposed to stand their and wait for her to finish her tantrum or do his job?

They are other ways of getting her out, she may have been under arrest but she didn't do anything wrong to make the police wrestle her down. I've only seen cops get violent in dangerous situations.

[Daniel.]

it didn't relate to what i said tho

[Marsh.]

They are other ways of getting her out, she may have been under arrest but she didn't do anything wrong to make the police wrestle her down. I've only seen cops get violent in dangerous situations.

Well it depends what she was under arrest for. :think:

If she'd just murdered a dinner lady then all the power to him.

[Livia]

I'd like to see what happened in the 30 minutes preceding that video.

[Jordan.]

it didn't relate to what i said tho

It did (joy)

[Tom4784]

I just knew before I clicked on the thread that the girl would be black. Just one more case to add to the mountain of incidents involving police brutality towards black people.

She wasn't physically resisting him, the police officer was completely in the wrong.

[Marsh.]

I just knew before I clicked on the thread that the girl would be black.

Now, is that because there is a problem with black people being targeted or the internet is obsessed with violence against black people?

[Kizzy]

Now, is that because there is a problem with black people being targeted or the internet is obsessed with violence against black people?

Neither, it's because there is video evidence of officers not adhering to procedure and abusing people.

[Tom4784]

Now, is that because there is a problem with black people being targeted or the internet is obsessed with violence against black people?

Probably more to do with the fact that nearly all cases of police brutality that come to light involve black victims. There's been so many over the past few years in particular that it's hard to deny that it's a valid problem.

[LukeB]

Well it depends what she was under arrest for. :think:

If she'd just murdered a dinner lady then all the power to him.

But she just sat there, she didn't even attack him for them to wrestle her down.. He took advantage of his job...

[Marsh.]

But she just sat there, she didn't even attack him for them to wrestle her down.. He took advantage of his job...

But as Livia said, we only saw a 30 second clip.

He might have been stood trying to remove her from the room for half an hour beforehand.

It's like on Big Brother, how differently we perceive situations depending on how heavily it's been edited. I'm sure you could edit a tonne of footage to make it appear for 30 seconds that Helen Wood was victimised every night during BB15. But we know this wasn't the case. :laugh:

[Jordan.]

It wasn't even that bad, people acting like he beat her to near death for removing her from a chair

[Tom4784]

But as Livia said, we only saw a 30 second clip.

He might have been stood trying to remove her from the room for half an hour beforehand.

It's like on Big Brother, how differently we perceive situations depending on how heavily it's been edited.

It doesn't really matter, the situation obviously didn't escalate to such a point where violence would be needed previously otherwise she'd have been taken down and removed when it escalated not after it had settled down to a point when she was calmly sitting at her desk.

The cop obviously didn't stick to procedure, throwing someone down to the floor using their desk and them dragging them around is not how you arrest someone who isn't offering physical resistance.

[Kizzy]

But as Livia said, we only saw a 30 second clip.

He might have been stood trying to remove her from the room for half an hour beforehand.

It's like on Big Brother, how differently we perceive situations depending on how heavily it's been edited. I'm sure you could edit a tonne of footage to make it appear for 30 seconds that Helen Wood was victimised every night during BB15. But we know this wasn't the case. :laugh:

So that's how you want to attempt to justify it, with some bizarre hypothetical? ok.

[Marsh.]

So that's how you want to attempt to justify it, with some bizarre hypothetical? ok.

Where have I justified it?

It's not a bizarre hypothetical, it's a fact. 30 second footage from a situation we were not involved with doesn't tell us anything. How long had the police officer been standing there before the clip started? What happened before the clip started? Etc etc.

[Marsh.]

It doesn't really matter, the situation obviously didn't escalate to such a point where violence would be needed previously otherwise she'd have been taken down and removed when it escalated not after it had settled down to a point when she was calmly sitting at her desk.

The cop obviously didn't stick to procedure, throwing someone down to the floor using their desk and them dragging them around is not how you arrest someone who isn't offering physical resistance.

He hardly battered her. He did what any police officer would do, drag the person resisting.

But, as I said earlier, those ridiculous desks used in American schools trapped her legs inside of it.

[Kizzy]

Where have I justified it?

It's not a bizarre hypothetical, it's a fact. 30 second footage from a situation we were not involved with doesn't tell us anything. How long had the police officer been standing there before the clip started? What happened before the clip started? Etc etc.

Fact?... you see the facts, you're speculating on something you can't see.

[Marsh.]

Fact?... you see the facts, you're speculating on something you can't see.

I said it's a fact that we see only 30 seconds of this situation.

Take a snapshot of anything and it can distort any picture.

[Kizzy]

I said it's a fact that we see only 30 seconds of this situation.

Take a snapshot of anything and it can distort any picture.

If you let your imagination run away with you that will distort it too.

[Marsh.]

If you let your imagination run away with you that will distort it too.

I haven't imagined anything. Unlike some, I haven't jumped to a conclusion based on 30 seconds of footage uploaded to twitter.

[Kizzy]

I haven't imagined anything. Unlike some, I haven't jumped to a conclusion based on 30 seconds of footage uploaded to twitter.

Jumped to a conclusion?... I see what is there, not what isn't is all.

[Marsh.]

Jumped to a conclusion?... I see what is there, not what isn't is all.

You've deduced who is in the wrong and who isn't, that is a conclusion.

I haven't. And don't see anything. I don't let twitter make my decisions for me.

[Jordan.]

Jumped to a conclusion?... I see what is there, not what isn't is all.

Didn't you jump to the conclusion it was to do with race

[Marsh.]

Probably more to do with the fact that nearly all cases of police brutality that come to light involve black victims. There's been so many over the past few years in particular that it's hard to deny that it's a valid problem.

Exactly. The ones that "come to light" depend on the medias agenda at any given time.

[Kizzy]

You've deduced who is in the wrong and who isn't, that is a conclusion.

I haven't. And don't see anything. I don't let twitter make my decisions for me.

I see what is before my eyes, if you choose to be blinkered that is your issue.

[Marsh.]

Neither, it's because there is video evidence of officers not adhering to procedure and abusing people.

The post you responded to was a question directed at Dezzy about his own opinion, I don't think you're quite qualified to answer on his behalf.

[Kizzy]

Didn't you jump to the conclusion it was to do with race

I stated a fact, it was a black student.

[Jordan.]

I stated a fact, it was a black student.

Why was that relevant?

[Marsh.]

I see what is before my eyes, if you choose to be blinkered that is your issue.

What is blinkered about what I said?

That I won't let a 30 second twitter video convince me that a particular police officer was acting out of racism?

As I said before, I haven't reached any conclusion about the situation because I don't let twitter tell me what to deduce from the video.

[Kizzy]

The post you responded to was a question directed at Dezzy about his own opinion, I don't think you're quite qualified to answer on his behalf.

I'll post as and when I see fit on a topic, it's the nature of discussion forum, this isn't a private conversation is it?

[Marsh.]

I'll post as and when I see fit on a topic, it's the nature of discussion forum, this isn't a private conversation is it?

No but you can't exactly answer a question about Dezzy's own personal thoughts on a topic can you? Are you inside his head?

[Kizzy]

What is blinkered about what I said?

That I won't let a 30 second twitter video convince me that a particular police officer was acting out of racism?

As I said before, I haven't reached any conclusion about the situation because I don't let twitter tell me what to deduce from the video.

Who mentioned racism? I didn't. I see an officer abusing a student as that is all there is to see.

[Kizzy]

No but you can't exactly answer a question about Dezzy's own personal thoughts on a topic can you? Are you inside his head?

Did I attempt to? You're veering off topic here.

[Marsh.]

Did I attempt to?

Yes. :joker: You answered a question directed specifically towards Dezzy's opinion.

[Marsh.]

Who mentioned racism? I didn't. I see an officer abusing a student as that is all there is to see.

It's one of the possibilities being discussed in this thread and you yourself saw fit to discuss the fact that the schoolgirl was black on page 1. :shrug:

[Kizzy]

Yes. :joker: You answered a question directed specifically towards Dezzy's opinion.

If you only wanted dezzys opinion send him a PM... This is a public forum.

[arista]

Some kids need a firm hand.


Bang On Right


Its USA

[Jordan.]

A mess at the playing dumb when the facts are there to see

[Marsh.]

If you only wanted dezzys opinion send him a PM... This is a public forum.

No, I questioned his opinion, hence the reason I quoted him.

[Kizzy]

It's one of the possibilities being discussed in this thread and you yourself saw fit to discuss the fact that the schoolgirl was black on page 1. :shrug:

That is a fact, she is Black.

[Marsh.]

That is a fact, she is Black.

The police officer's white, what's your point? :conf:

[Kizzy]

No, I questioned his opinion, hence the reason I quoted him.

Well now you have mine... lucky old you.

[Jordan.]

Why was that relevant?

.

[Marsh.]

Well now you have mine... lucky old you.

Yes, I have your answer on how Dezzy came to his own opinion. How relevant.

[Kizzy]

The police officer's white, what's your point? :conf:

I made my point on page 1, try to be more observant Marsh.

[Kizzy]

Yes, I have your answer on how Dezzy came to his own opinion. How relevant.

You're welcome.

[Marsh.]

I made my point on page 1, try to be more observant Marsh.

But you just denied mentioning race had anything to do with it? :joker:

[Kizzy]

But you just denied mentioning race had anything to do with it? :joker:

Nope I didn't mention racism, I simply stated the child was black.
Your supposition led you to that conclusion not me.

[Marsh.]

Nope I didn't mention racism, I simply stated the child was black.
Your supposition led you to that conclusion not me.

No. This pretty plain statement did that....

So by some fuzzy logic Black students should be assumed to have done something to warrant being abused?

This post suggests the incident occurred because the girl was black and because she's black she was assumed to have done wrong.

Even though it appears every other student in the class was also black but not involved.

[Kizzy]

No. This pretty plain statement did that....



This post suggests the incident occurred because the girl was black and because she's black she was assumed to have done wrong.

Even though it appears every other student in the class was also black but not involved.

Where did I use the term racism?..... Once again you are seeing things that are not there.

[Jordan.]

No. This pretty plain statement did that....



This post suggests the incident occurred because the girl was black and because she's black she was assumed to have done wrong.

Even though it appears every other student in the class was also black but not involved.

It's like banging your head against that YELLOW wall in the classroom

[Marsh.]

Where did I use the term racism?..... Once again you are seeing things that are not there.

You don't need to use the word racism. :umm2:

You insinuated that the girl was assumed to have done wrong because of her skin colour. That is an example of racism whether you explicitly use the term or not.

[Kizzy]

You don't need to use the word racism. :umm2:

You insinuated that the girl was assumed to have done wrong because of her skin colour. That is an example of racism whether you explicitly use the term or not.

You sure like to read things into situations don't you?
When you've quite finished making up what I said, and telling me what you think I said let me know.

[Marsh.]

:joker:

So targeting someone based on their skin colour is NOT RACISM.

Moving on.

[Jordan.]

You sure like to read things into situations don't you?
When you've quite finished making up what I said, and telling me what you think I said let me know.

Why don't you explain what you really meant then? I've already asked twice why it was relevant to bring up skin colour if you don't believe it was a race issue and you haven't said anything :worry:

[Kizzy]

:joker:

So targeting someone based on their skin colour is NOT RACISM.

Moving on.

Have you noticed me saying this is racism in the thread yet, no?

Then yes let's move on.

[Marsh.]

Have you noticed me saying this is racism in the thread yet, no?

Yes, then three pages later you backtracked.

Never mind.

[Kizzy]

Why don't you explain what you really meant then? I've already asked twice why it was relevant to bring up skin colour if you don't believe it was a race issue and you haven't said anything :worry:

Don't worry about it, I think the thread has been derailed enough tonight without dissecting my posts.

[Kizzy]

Yes, then three pages later you backtracked.

Never mind.

Maybe you saw it during the footage of the 30 mins prior to the assault on the black student?

[Marsh.]

Are you going to share this mysterious opinion you've been building up for three pages or continue derailing the thread with veiled patronising statements Kizzy?

[Kizzy]

Are you going to share this mysterious opinion you've been building up for three pages or continue derailing the thread with veiled patronising statements Kizzy?

It's rather insulting to constantly have words put in your mouth to be honest.
I don't have to explain my posts they are here to be read.

[Marsh.]

It's rather insulting to constantly have words put in your mouth to be honest.
I don't have to explain my posts they are here to be read.

Well when you continue to reply telling us how we've misinterpreted your opinion, try actually putting one across.

I have read and responded to your posts. If you don't want to explain them no one's forcing you back into the thread.

[Jordan.]

If you're not willing to explain your posts you probably shouldn't take issue with people misinterpretating them

[Kizzy]

Well when you continue to reply telling us how we've misinterpreted your opinion, try actually putting one across.

I have read and responded to your posts. If you don't want to explain them no one's forcing you back into the thread.

We... what is this a tag team?
I made my view clear, your skewed perception of what I post isn't my issue.
I have nothing to explain, and I hope that is clarified.

[Marsh.]

We... what is this a tag team?
I made my view clear, your skewed perception of what I post isn't my issue.
I have nothing to explain, and I hope that is clarified.

Tag team? :conf:

My "skewed perception" isn't your issue? So, why has 80% of your posts in this thread been about how I've misinterpreted your post? :conf:

If you're going to keep popping in to tell people how wrong they are, without actually contributing anything then what's the point?

[Kizzy]

Tag team? :conf:

My "skewed perception" isn't your issue? So, why has 80% of your posts in this thread been about how I've misinterpreted your post? :cons:

If you're going to keep popping in to tell people how wrong they are, without actually contributing anything then what's the point?

I don't 'pop' anywhere, you're taking exception to my reasoning in this thread and constantly commenting for some reason.
You will have to remain confused and whatever the other smiley thing is... With any luck the ridiculous badgering will end as it's gotten very boring and has ruined yet another thread.

[Marsh.]

I don't 'pop' anywhere, you're taking exception to my reasoning in this thread and constantly commenting for some reason.
You will have to remain confused and whatever the other smiley thing is... With any luck the ridiculous badgering will end as it's gotten very boring and has ruined yet another thread.

Yet it began with you quoting what I was posting.

So, if you don't like it why continue to question me?

But by all means sit on your high horse (along with your smiley mention) and look down on us lessors who aren't quite evolved enough to psychically channel your opinion across the internet.

[Ammi]

...wow, that was some excessive use of force, regardless of what led up to it ..I would like to see comments from staff etc present as well though and not just students ...I wonder if she had posed a physical threat to her class in what had occurred just beforehand...

[Ammi]

It doesn't really matter, the situation obviously didn't escalate to such a point where violence would be needed previously otherwise she'd have been taken down and removed when it escalated not after it had settled down to a point when she was calmly sitting at her desk.

The cop obviously didn't stick to procedure, throwing someone down to the floor using their desk and them dragging them around is not how you arrest someone who isn't offering physical resistance.

...hmmmm, thing is though Dezzy, we don't know what procedure is in American schools and with regards to weapons/firearms and recent killings in schools and colleges there...we're allowed to physically remove someone from a classroom if they are perceived a physical danger to either themselves or to others around them and although she wasn't in the video and just sat at her desk, she could have been just previously to that..or she could have a history of anger/aggression etc and security had been called ...yeah, it does here seem extremely excessive I agree and I'm not condoning it at all, but I think it's very easy for a few seconds of seeing it, to take the whole situation out of it's context as well..and the 'time lapse' could have been the time it took for security to reach the class when called/difficult on to call really without knowing it all...

[arista]

...wow, that was some excessive use of force, regardless of what led up to it ..I would like to see comments from staff etc present as well though and not just students ...I wonder if she had posed a physical threat to her class in what had occurred just beforehand...


Yes she will behave now.

[arista]

Debated on SkyNewsHD
Paper Review.

They Concluded they need Context.


The Teacher was not involved.

[Ammi]

Debated on SkyNewsHD
Paper Review.

They Concluded they need Context.


The Teacher was not involved.

..indeed..

[jennyjuniper]

Why were the police called to start with? Why was she asked to leave? Until I see or hear all the facts I can't make up my mind whether the police officer was in the wrong or not.

[bots]

Why were the police called to start with? Why was she asked to leave? Until I see or hear all the facts I can't make up my mind whether the police officer was in the wrong or not.

yep, no-one can judge anything from a 30 second clip, for all we know the girl could have stabbed someone seconds before the video was shot making the response perfectly valid.

[arista]

Why were the police called to start with? Why was she asked to leave? Until I see or hear all the facts I can't make up my mind whether the police officer was in the wrong or not.

Its A Security School Officer
who works at that school.

[Marsh.]

...wow, that was some excessive use of force, regardless of what led up to it ..I would like to see comments from staff etc present as well though and not just students ...I wonder if she had posed a physical threat to her class in what had occurred just beforehand...

Debated on SkyNewsHD
Paper Review.

They Concluded they need Context.


The Teacher was not involved.

:clap2:

[AnnieK]

The thing that confuses me with this is that not one other student jumped to her defence or reacted at all.....surely if it was completely unjust and unwarranted the others wouldn't have sat by? I know I couldn't have done :shrug: Having said that it look excessive but doesn't quite add up to me.

[Kizzy]

Yet it began with you quoting what I was posting.

So, if you don't like it why continue to question me?

But by all means sit on your high horse (along with your smiley mention) and look down on us lessors who aren't quite evolved enough to psychically channel your opinion across the internet.

I posted comment on the forum is all, I didn't invite an interrogation.

I'm not a psychic but I predict this officer has some questions to face over his conduct.

By giving my opinion that is not being on a high horse or looking down on anyone.

[Niamh.]

Can we stick to discussing the thread topic and not eachother please?

[Will.]

I found it really uncomfortable to watch, and there aren't many things I find uncomfortable to watch.

Poor girl.

[Kizzy]

This site has a vid with a student interview, it was seemingly over a mobile phone.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2015/10/26/spring-valley-high-school-incident/74645568/

[Tom4784]

Exactly. The ones that "come to light" depend on the medias agenda at any given time.

That surely only bolsters my point about police brutality, no?

We only hear about certain stories, but it happens every day, it's just that there isn't always a camera around to record it.

[Tom4784]

This site has a vid with a student interview, it was seemingly over a mobile phone.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2015/10/26/spring-valley-high-school-incident/74645568/

The police officer has been sued for similar behavior before, what a shocker.

Simply refusing to leave isn't an excuse for excessive force, especially since she wasn't offering physical resistance.

[user104658]

Can we stick to discussing the thread topic and not eachother please?

If you don't know the answer to this already Niamh... :shrug:

[Niamh.]

If you don't know the answer to this already Niamh... :shrug:

:hehe:

[Marsh.]

That surely only bolsters my point about police brutality, no?

We only hear about certain stories, but it happens every day, it's just that there isn't always a camera around to record it.

What do you mean?

A general point about "police brutality" is quite a broad statement and topic. This video is one incident.

[Dominic]

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[Pete.]

God has spoken

[Pete.]

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[Nedusa]

Maybe they thought she was an armed terrorist ready to commit an atrocity 😆, maybe the cop acted correctly and should be praised for his actions.

[Northern Monkey]

It does seem very excessive tbf.She's a small teenage girl.I'm pretty sure he could've just picked her up and carried her out in a controlled way.Yes the desk may have made it awkward but that looks to me like he lost his temper.
Obviously we need context though.She could've threatened him or something before hand.
Still you would'nt expect to see that kind of force used on anyone let alone a teenage girl unless they were physically attacking him.If i was her dad i would go and beat the **** out of him tbh.

[Kizzy]

It's shocking to see how many people will attempt to rationalise extreme violence if it is someone in a position of authority captured in the act.

[user104658]

It does seem very excessive tbf.She's a small teenage girl.I'm pretty sure he could've just picked her up and carried her out in a controlled way.Yes the desk may have made it awkward but that looks to me like he lost his temper.
Obviously we need context though.She could've threatened him or something before hand.
Still you would'nt expect to see that kind of force used on anyone let alone a teenage girl unless they were physically attacking him.If i was her dad i would go and beat the **** out of him tbh.

Have you listened to the boy from the class that filmed it talking about it? He says that when the guy came in, he asked people to move tables etc. out of the way as he was approaching and also specifically moved breakable things off of her desk / out of the way as soon as he arrived... in other words, it seems like he had a pre-planned course of action before he even approached her.

[Niamh.]

Saw the video yesterday, that was very uncomfortable to watch, it's the kind of force you'd expect to see from a Police Officer taking down a crazed gun man/woman

[Northern Monkey]

Have you listened to the boy from the class that filmed it talking about it? He says that when the guy came in, he asked people to move tables etc. out of the way as he was approaching and also specifically moved breakable things off of her desk / out of the way as soon as he arrived... in other words, it seems like he had a pre-planned course of action before he even approached her.
If that's true,Sounds like wanted to teach her a lesson or something.The way he grabbed her head in that headlock type move was totally unnecessary.I've watched a bouncer pick a fully grown man up and carry him out of a pub and up to the top of a street then put him down,No violence and the bloke even laughed about it.If a bouncer can do that to a man then surely a big strapping cop can take a similar approach with a tiny teenage girl.

[user104658]

I reckon it gets him hard. I'm not even joking; I think there's a strong possibility that he gets off on it.

[arista]

Now we know
The Student was asked to put her Mobile Phone away
she refused.

Now Many In USA back the Officers Force.


Sign Of The Times


Ref : FoxNewsHD , CNN America and Radio 5

[Niamh.]

Now we know
The Student was asked to put her Mobile Phone away
she refused.

Now Many In USA back the Officers Force.


Sign Of The Times


Ref : FoxNewsHD , CNN America and Radio 5

Many in the USA back the officer after hearing the reason why was her not putting her phone away? wow. wth is wrong with people?

[Samuel.]

Now we know
The Student was asked to put her Mobile Phone away
she refused.

Now Many In USA back the Officers Force.


Sign Of The Times


Ref : FoxNewsHD , CNN America and Radio 5

Really? That was it?! Absolutely disgusting.

[arista]

Yes the Teacher asked many times for her to put her
Phone Away, she ignored him.

I agree with bringing the Officer in.
I also think he was so Ruff on her
as she has done this before

[arista]

Really? That was it?! Absolutely disgusting.


Yes 100%
even on our radio 5


It was the student refused to stop texting
on her mobile phone

[arista]

This is disgusting, she only refused to leave the classroom.


Truth Out Today
She Reused to Stop using her Mobile Phone.
Teacher asked many times


So then the Officer is called in,

Fact

[Niamh.]

Yes 100%
even on our radio 5


It was the student refused to stop texting
on her mobile phone

That is not a good reason to do what he did to her, I hope she sues him for assault, she'd be well within her rights as well.

[Denver]

When has not putting you phone away been a arrestable offence? Not even ISIS would do that, that police officer needs a dose of his own medicine

[arista]

That is not a good reason to do what he did to her, I hope she sues him for assault, she'd be well within her rights as well.


Its not the same in America
Rules must be done.

She is Guilty First
would not do well in Court.

[Niamh.]

Its not the same in America
Rules must be done.

She is Guilty First
would not do well in Court.

I strongly disagree, he used excessive force, massively excessive force in fact.

[arista]

When has not putting you phone away been a arrestable offence? Not even ISIS would do that, that police officer needs a dose of his own medicine


Each USA School / College
has its own rules.


Isis would cut her head off
so do not bring that into this


More are now backing the Officer

[arista]

I strongly disagree, he used excessive force, massively excessive force in fact.


Yes but the Staff have the Full Video
you do not.


I would assume this young lady
keeps doing this.
She was not Broken.


In USA Class
if Teacher says Put your phone away
you do it.

And the 2 kids that filmed it are now in trouble
was this a set up?

[Niamh.]

Yes but the Staff have the Full Video
you do not.


I would assume this young lady
keeps doing this.
She was not Broken.


In USA Class
if Teacher says Put your phone away
you do it.

And the 2 kids that filmed it are now in trouble
was this a set up?

"Fields, the 34-year-old senior school resource officer at the high school, has been suspended without pay while the sheriff’s office investigates. The school district said it has asked Fields to not return to any school in the district permanently"

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/ben-fields-richland-county-south-carolina-sheriff-deputy-spring-valley-high-school-photo-football-coach-bodybuilder-cop-student-desk-video-complaints/

[Livia]

Like I said earlier, I'd like to see what happened in the 30 minutes preceding the incident. I'd also like to know how often this kid is in trouble... otherwise we're all just commenting on a few minutes of film of the incident, the background of which we know nothing.

As far as rights are concerned, all those other kids in the class have rights, the least of which is the right to an education. Having some try-hard in class who disrupts it and refuses to get off their phone is not conducive to a decent learning environment. I hope if the kid who wouldn't get off her phone in class is reinstated, the other kids will also be able to use their right to an education to have her removed if she can't behave like an adult.

[arista]

"Fields, the 34-year-old senior school resource officer at the high school, has been suspended without pay while the sheriff’s office investigates. The school district said it has asked Fields to not return to any school in the district permanently"

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/ben-fields-richland-county-south-carolina-sheriff-deputy-spring-valley-high-school-photo-football-coach-bodybuilder-cop-student-desk-video-complaints/


Yes He will Get New Work
in Private Security
Good Luck to Him

[Niamh.]

Like I said earlier, I'd like to see what happened in the 30 minutes preceding the incident. I'd also like to know how often this kid is in trouble... otherwise we're all just commenting on a few minutes of film of the incident, the background of which we know nothing.

As far as rights are concerned, all those other kids in the class have rights, the least of which is the right to an education. Having some try-hard in class who disrupts it and refuses to get off their phone is not conducive to a decent learning environment. I hope if the kid who wouldn't get off her phone in class is reinstated, the other kids will also be able to use their right to an education to have her removed if she can't behave like an adult.

It doesn't even matter what happened 30 minutes beforehand or how disruptive the pupil was being. That was excessive force, unless she happened to be swinging a gun around 30 minutes before of course........but I'm sure that would have been mentioned by now if it were true.

[kirklancaster]

Discipline within schools must be maintained, and this rebellious girl should be punished, but any punishment must fit the crime, and this punishment was so blatantly excessive. This cop is so obviously one of those many, many freaks who became cops because it empowers them to be able to carry out their own secret agendas, and he should be booted off the force immediately.

I hope that her family sues the cop personally and the Force he works for, and is - rightfully - successful on both.

[Niamh.]

Yes He will Get New Work
in Private Security
Good Luck to Him

Hopefully somewhere far away from kids :worry:

[Niamh.]

Discipline within schools must be maintained, and this rebellious girl should be punished, but any punishment must fit the crime, and this punishment was so blatantly excessive. This cop is so obviously one of those many, many freaks who became cops because it empowers them to be able to carry out their own secret agendas, and he should be booted off the force immediately.

I hope that her family sues the cop personally and the Force he works for, and is - rightfully - successful on both.

Spot on.

[arista]

Hopefully somewhere far away from kids :worry:


Yes People his own Size
he will be armed

[Josiah.]

I am watching the news right now and they have said that the officer that did this has just been fired.

[kirklancaster]

I am watching the news right now and they have said that the officer that did this has just been fired.

Good - a step in the right direction.

[Ammi]

"She is responsible for initiating this action ... but it did not justify his actions", he said.

"When he threw her across the room he lost control of her and that is against our policy."



...so the throwing her across the room bit was ok then and perfectly reasonable, he should have just been more careful with his grasp I guess...

[arista]

"She is responsible for initiating this action ... but it did not justify his actions", he said.

"When he threw her across the room he lost control of her and that is against our policy."



...so the throwing her across the room bit was ok then and perfectly reasonable, he should have just been more careful with his grasp I guess...



Yes Ammi
could be a repeat offender

Many in USA backed the Copper

As that Girl would not put her Mobile Phone
away.

[Ammi]

...stop being silly Arista, he's a 'control officer' and his job is dealing with situations and behavioural issues...you don't throw a student across the room for using a mobile phone in class...

[Kizzy]

The reason kids don't behave like adults is because they are not adults.
Rules are rules and the rules on excessive force are clear... two wrongs do not make a right.
How much disruption must there be at that school now due to the actions of this man?

[arista]

...stop being silly Arista, he's a 'control officer' and his job is dealing with situations and behavioural issues...you don't throw a student across the room for using a mobile phone in class...


He was Fired


I hope you are Happy

[Marsh.]

He was Fired


I hope you are Happy

:laugh: It's not Ammi's fault.

[Kizzy]

He was Fired


I hope you are Happy

I am, when those placed in a position of responsibility abuse it then it's right to remove them.

[Ammi]

He was Fired


I hope you are Happy

...it's not about being happy Arista, he may have a family who now have no income, which is very sad and I would imagine that it'll be hard for him to find another job doing the same thing as well...but he did wrong though, she was back at her table and it was all diffused so physical force wasn't necessary and he used excessive physical force.../so an inevitable outcome for him really...

[Kizzy]

Meanwhile somewhere in a school a girl checks her mobile phone...

[kirklancaster]

:laugh: It's not Ammi's fault.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

:laugh: It's not Ammi's fault.

:joker:

[Gstar]

triple dare any officer to do that to my niece

[lostalex]

this story is so boring, the cop has already been fired. and the girl in the video didn't suffer any real injuries.

[arista]

this story is so boring, the cop has already been fired. and the girl in the video didn't suffer any real injuries.


Bang On Right Alex

[Kizzy]

this story is so boring, the cop has already been fired. and the girl in the video didn't suffer any real injuries.

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