Police to be granted powers to view your internet history...

[Ammi]

Police are to get the power to view the web browsing history of everyone in the country.

Home Secretary Theresa May will announce the plans when she introduces the Government's new surveillance bill in the House of Commons on Wednesday.

The Telegraph understands the new powers for the police will form part of the new bill.

It would make it a legal requirement for communications companies to retain all the web browsing history of customers for 12 months in case the spy agencies or police need to access them.


Police would be able to access specific web addresses visited by customers.

The new powers would allow the police to seize details of the website and searches being made by people they wanted to investigate.

They will still need to apply for judicial approval to be able to access the content of the websites.

Mrs May previously told the Commons enforcement agencies needed more powersto do their jobs effectively.


“I've said many times before that it is not possible to debate the balance between privacy and security, including the rights and wrongs of intrusive powers and the oversight arrangements that govern them without also considering the threats that we face as a country," she told MPs.

"Those threats remain considerable and they are evolving.

"They include not just terrorism from overseas and home-grown in the UK, but also industrial, military and state espionage.

"They include not just organised criminality, but also the proliferation of once physical crimes online, such as child sexual exploitation. And the technological challenges that that brings.

"In the face of such threats we have a duty to ensure that the agencies whose job it is to keep us safe have the powers they need to do the job."

David Davis MP told The Times there is "no proven need" to retain the data for a year.

Previous plans to introduce the measure in the so-called snooper's charter in 2013 were blocked by the Liberal Democrats in the Coalition.

Writing in the Telegraph previously, former deputy prime minister Nick Clegg warned that Britain would be “setting a worrying international precedent” if plans for the massive database of people’s internet and phone usage went ahead.

The Security Service, along with MI6 and GCHQ, has previously warned MPs that the ability to combat terrorism would be severely hampered without the powers.

Under the plans, telecoms and internet service providers would be paid to log their customers’ emails, internet use and other correspondence so it could be easily searched by security officials.

Data would be held for 12 months and access granted to the police, the National Crime Agency, the intelligence agencies and HM Revenue and Customs.

Previously a poll by YouGov for Big Brother Watch found almost three-quarters of people did not trust that the data would be kept secure.

It comes as David Cameron, the Prime Minister, announced moves to strengthen its treaty with America to ensure Internet companies based there hand over requested data on suspects.

Some of the largest companies have been increasingly reluctant to supply customer communications in the wake of the claims of mass surveillance programmes by former CIA contractor Edward Snowden



http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/police-to-be-granted-powers-to-view-your-internet-history/ar-BBmAHxG

[Northern Monkey]

After all the recent hacking that's been going on and how easy it seemingly is to get past companies like TalkTalk's security this is a bad idea and will hopefully be blocked again.

[Denver]

Is that not invasion of privacy?

[waterhog]

this is a good move but I feel she should go one step further and add to the bill and put all mp's expenses online every time they add to it so we can name and shame them each time and instantly.

[arista]

Is that not invasion of privacy?


Yes It is
But do want a Terrorist Attack to go on
with hundreds murdered


Isis trying to do a UK 9/11

Thanks to Saudi Arabia
MI5 found out the last attackers in London
and got them locked up

[user104658]

http://files.gamebanana.com/img/ico/sprays/4e685dfd25b5c.jpg

[Ammi]

..a huge focus in schools atm is 'Prevent'...how to identify vulnerable children ..(and others in society..)..who may be perfectly profiled for radicalisation...we don't have to fear terrorist attacks from IS..the attacks have already been made and engulfed/encouraged with paranoia and suspicion ...

[joeysteele]

I am a present not wholly in favour of this, I do support fully the opening up of any opportunities to search and find any terrorist related activity.

However, I wouldn't have trusted the last Labour govt to get this right and I for sure would never in any shape or form trust this govt to do much right at all.

I would hope this will be handled sensitively and that very strong regulations are placed on the Police too as to what they search and more to the point why.
Everyone should have the right to their privacy of details and if doing nothing illegal, as to what they do too,on the internet or otherwise.

[DemolitionRed]

"Those threats remain considerable and they are evolving.

"They include not just terrorism from overseas and home-grown in the UK, but also industrial, military and state espionage.


If that's the case, then why has our ministry of defence been cut by 20 percent and why has this ministry been told to prepare for further reductions of 20 to 40 percent. Why since 2010 are our armed forces being downsized, our military capabilities slashed and our economic interests put way ahead of any international security.

I call bollox on this one.

Big Brother...we are watching you.

[Cherie]

I don't care about this really, the police haven't got the time to search Joe Bloggs internet history, if it is used as a tool to stop crime then great. Every time we look at something on the net we can be tracked at any rate whether that be by the internet provider, google et al, forum admin etc, so adding in the police I am really not bothered.

[kirklancaster]

The cops will never get any real work done - what with all those zillion man hours of porn to sift through. :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

we are all in trouble



Thisisbigbrother.com



:worry:

[Cherie]

we are all in trouble



Thisisbigbrother.com



:worry:

:joker: Josy heading up the Scottish cell leading them on shopping sprees :fist:

[DemolitionRed]

"Until they became conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.” George Orwell

[Cherie]

"Until they became conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.” George Orwell

What are we rebelling about exactly, Sainsbury's snooping on our shopping habits?

[Cal.]

This chick hopes this doesn't compromise her chances of listening to albums without paying

[user104658]

we are all in trouble



Thisisbigbrother.com



:worry:

Take away the "th" and it sounds like some sort of extremist "buddy programme"...

[Mystic Mock]

They're only doing this to frighten people about a "terrorist attack" and also to distract people from the fact that this party want peoples Tax Credits removed, the fact that they want to bring Fox Hunting back, and the fact that the PM ****ed a dead Pig allegedly.

[Liam-]

So to make their job of trying to catch terrorists before they do something easier they're going to invade the privacy of everybody with a computer?.. I don't see the logic, it's like some sick thriller film, what happens when they inevitably get hacked? there are a lot of people out there more intelligent that these people will ever be, if they get into this 'system' - I'm using that term very loosely- then they'd have everybody's private information surely? by doing this they'd only be opening themselves up to more trouble, why don't they just focus on what they're trying to do and be do better at it, rather than becoming some sort of other being to make their life easier, it's a stupid idea which hopefully won't come to fruition.

[Jamie89]

The cops will never get any real work done - what with all those zillion man hours of porn to sift through. :laugh:

And that's just your history right, Kirk? ;)

I don't really have a problem with this. It seems like a big invasion of privacy because it's something we're not used to, but that's only because the internet world is still a relatively new thing, and it's just a case of law makers catching up with a changing society.

[Jamie89]

we are all in trouble



Thisisbigbrother.com



:worry:

D: and we're all accomplices!

[DemolitionRed]

How can we use threats like terrorism for getting a law like this passed when our government have spent the past five years cutting back hard on our defences. Our government have made it blatantly clear from the alarming decline in our national defence system, that they protect our country with a large pinch of salt and a big dose of complacency.

Because of the above ^ I find it strange that the Government are suddenly rushing through new legislation without appropriate public and parliamentary scrutiny. Why are they ignoring the ECJ ruling? No other country within the EU has the authority to snoop and retain public data so why does Britain need to? Does Britain really have more terrorists and paedophiles? like MP David Davies says, its a theatrical emergency where three party leaders made this deal in private, behind closed doors where nobody could hear them.

Is this new law even legal? Steve Peers, professor of EU law and human rights law at the University of Essex http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/does-uks-new-data-retention-bill.html

[user104658]

Is this new law even legal? Steve Peers, professor of EU law and human rights law at the University of Essex http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/does-uks-new-data-retention-bill.html

When have petty considerations like that ever bothered them? Take this recent tax credits nonsense, for instance. "Hmph! Blocked by the House of Lords? Well... we must immediately look into changing the rules so that that can't happen again!"

Not to mention their Gerrymandering attempts.

[smudgie]

I don't have a problem with it.
Did I read it wrong or isn't it just when you visit certain websites you will be spied on?

[Kizzy]

When have petty considerations like that ever bothered them? Take this recent tax credits nonsense, for instance. "Hmph! Blocked by the House of Lords? Well... we must immediately look into changing the rules so that that can't happen again!"

Not to mention their Gerrymandering attempts.

Ditto, What else should we expect from autocrats?

[user104658]

I don't have a problem with it.
Did I read it wrong or isn't it just when you visit certain websites you will be spied on?

Yeah it's only sites with ISIS in the title. ... ...

[DemolitionRed]

When have petty considerations like that ever bothered them? Take this recent tax credits nonsense, for instance. "Hmph! Blocked by the House of Lords? Well... we must immediately look into changing the rules so that that can't happen again!"

Not to mention their Gerrymandering attempts.

Aye, this lot are such a bloody worry!

[smudgie]

Yeah it's only sites with ISIS in the title. ... ...

Oooops, we better watch our P's and Q's then.:joker:

[Denver]

Not David Cameron being found out for watching Pig head porn?

[Northern Monkey]

This if implemented would more than likely just push more and more people onto the 'dark web' out of protest.

[Kizzy]

This if implemented would more than likely just push more and more people onto the 'dark web' out of protest.

To do what, Watch bake off? I doubt this very much.

[Northern Monkey]

To do what, Watch bake off? I doubt this very much.
Idk.I've never been on their

Maybe watch 'dark web' shows:laugh:

Can't you get bake off on there?I'm sure you could get almost anything on there.

[bots]

This if implemented would more than likely just push more and more people onto the 'dark web' out of protest.

any net access they make via their isp is actually logged already, dark web or not. All this does is allow them access to the data for dubious reasons.

[Northern Monkey]

any net access they make via their isp is actually logged already, dark web or not. All this does is allow them access to the data for dubious reasons.
So if the dark web is trackable then what's the point in it?Idk much about tbh other than a documentary i recently watched on Youtube about it.

[bots]

So if the dark web is trackable then what's the point in it?Idk much about tbh other than a documentary i recently watched on Youtube about it.

everything is tracked, its just that laws currently protect users data from all but very specific instances. What they are doing is widening the scope of the reasons for accessing it, and the agencies that can do it.

[JoshBB]

Seriously?? Like I get if there were individuals they were worried about, accessing their browsing histories may be acceptable, but just normal people going on about their day? Bit too 1984 if you ask me.

[the truth]

"Those threats remain considerable and they are evolving.

"They include not just terrorism from overseas and home-grown in the UK, but also industrial, military and state espionage.


If that's the case, then why has our ministry of defence been cut by 20 percent and why has this ministry been told to prepare for further reductions of 20 to 40 percent. Why since 2010 are our armed forces being downsized, our military capabilities slashed and our economic interests put way ahead of any international security.

I call bollox on this one.

Big Brother...we are watching you.

fair points

[JoshBB]

Yeah it's only sites with ISIS in the title. ... ...

Where did you get this from?

The word 'ISIS' isn't mentioned once in the article lol

[the truth]

So to make their job of trying to catch terrorists before they do something easier they're going to invade the privacy of everybody with a computer?.. I don't see the logic, it's like some sick thriller film, what happens when they inevitably get hacked? there are a lot of people out there more intelligent that these people will ever be, if they get into this 'system' - I'm using that term very loosely- then they'd have everybody's private information surely? by doing this they'd only be opening themselves up to more trouble, why don't they just focus on what they're trying to do and be do better at it, rather than becoming some sort of other being to make their life easier, it's a stupid idea which hopefully won't come to fruition.

agreed, although I think it would be infinitely worse than this, the abuses would be catastrophic. imagine how politicians would use this against future opponents?

[user104658]

Where did you get this from?

The word 'ISIS' isn't mentioned once in the article lol
It is...

[arista]

Seriously?? Like I get if there were individuals they were worried about, accessing their browsing histories may be acceptable, but just normal people going on about their day? Bit too 1984 if you ask me.


No its not
you have done nothing wrong

It that Terrorist cell down the road they want

[Cherie]

Seriously?? Like I get if there were individuals they were worried about, accessing their browsing histories may be acceptable, but just normal people going on about their day? Bit too 1984 if you ask me.

What is the definition of a normal person though, if you look any recent terrorist atrocities a common theme is ..no one realised, they were the best son, dad, husband, wife, seemed very normal etc etc

[user104658]

any net access they make via their isp is actually logged already, dark web or not. All this does is allow them access to the data for dubious reasons.

This is incorrect, if you are accessing the darkweb properly (via a VPN or other method of encryption) then your ISP can't see what you're doing, other than that you're sending and receiving encrypted information, which could potentially "flag" you I guess. They can't actually see what you've been looking at or where you've been browsing (dark web OR normal) unless they've got someone very skilled actively monitoring you personally.

[Northern Monkey]

Like i said in another thread.I think we have to be very careful about the amount of power we afford the government and secret services.Things like this are never reversed,Once it's in...It's in for good.Even if we trust those in power at the moment who's to say we will trust whoever replaces them twenty or thirty years down the line.Where is the limit to the powers that we grant to these people?This will not be the end.A line has to be drawn somewhere.How long before our phones,laptops and tablets are projecting live feed of our day to day movements.That truly will be Big Brother in real life.It may seem far fetched but it's not a giant leap from where we are today,Infact these things are currently very possible technologically.

[Northern Monkey]

This is incorrect, if you are accessing the darkweb properly (via a VPN or other method of encryption) then your ISP can't see what you're doing, other than that you're sending and receiving encrypted information, which could potentially "flag" you I guess. They can't actually see what you've been looking at or where you've been browsing (dark web OR normal) unless they've got someone very skilled actively monitoring you personally.That's what i thought too.

[kirklancaster]

To do what, Watch bake off? I doubt this very much.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[kirklancaster]

This is incorrect, if you are accessing the darkweb properly (via a VPN or other method of encryption) then your ISP can't see what you're doing, other than that you're sending and receiving encrypted information, which could potentially "flag" you I guess. They can't actually see what you've been looking at or where you've been browsing (dark web OR normal) unless they've got someone very skilled actively monitoring you personally.

To save me Googling - WTF is The Dark Net -- I thought it was something fictional that they tried to snare Darth Vader with. :laugh:

[bots]

This is incorrect, if you are accessing the darkweb properly (via a VPN or other method of encryption) then your ISP can't see what you're doing, other than that you're sending and receiving encrypted information, which could potentially "flag" you I guess. They can't actually see what you've been looking at or where you've been browsing (dark web OR normal) unless they've got someone very skilled actively monitoring you personally.

i beg to differ. I stand by my original comment

[user104658]

i beg to differ. I stand by my original comment
OK continue to be misinformed.

[bots]

OK continue to be misinformed.

I have experience in that field, so i am not misinformed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I dont want them searching Kirks Internet History and then arresting a load of Dwarf Shemales in a dawn raid

:worry:

[kirklancaster]

I dont want them searching Kirks Internet History and then arresting a load of Dwarf Shemales in a dawn raid

:worry:

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: It's only if they're wearing burka's when I'll be in trouble though LT. :laugh:

[arista]

To save me Googling - WTF is The Dark Net -- I thought it was something fictional that they tried to snare Darth Vader with. :laugh:


Traders of Illegal Gear
Criminals that can not be tracked

They Use BitCoin alot

[kirklancaster]

Traders of Illegal Gear
Criminals that can not be tracked

They Use BitCoin alot

Thanks Arista - I learn something every day.

[Northern Monkey]

I dont want them searching Kirks Internet History and then arresting a load of Dwarf Shemales in a dawn raid

:worry:

What??

Dwarf shemales are illegal??:worry:


:dog:

[user104658]

I have experience in that field, so i am not misinformed.

If you're pointing out that the darkweb can be accessed unencrypted (when usually it isn't, but it can be) then just say that. If you are trying to say that ISP's can monitor and log specific online activity via a properly encrypted connection without some serious extra legwork such as a team of highly skilled people specifically targetting that data... then you ARE misinformed, whether you have experience in that field or not.

[Ninastar]

This is good tbh. It will help the police find out more info when dealing with online bullying, hacking, terrorism, etc etc.

I didnt realise they weren't allowed to do so before...

[user104658]

This is good tbh. It will help the police find out more info when dealing with online bullying, hacking, terrorism, etc etc.

I didnt realise they weren't allowed to do so before...

Yeah it's great - almost as good as in 2017, when they're going to be putting CCTV into every home. It will really help the police when dealing with domestic violence issues so why would anyone have a problem with it?

[DemolitionRed]

Demolition Man Language violation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4HEEiJuGo

[Jack_]

Three pages in and not a sign of 'if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear'?

Wow, maybe people finally became self-aware of the irony of posting such a statement on a Big Brother forum.

[kirklancaster]

I don't know what all the fuss is about really; If you've nothing to fear then you have obviousy nothing to hide.

Sorry Jack - Couldn't resist. :laugh:

[waterhog]

I don't know what all the fuss is about really; If you've nothing to fear then you have obviousy nothing to hide.

Sorry Jack - Couldn't resist. :laugh:



you better delete them naughty emails you sent me kirky - don't worry I wont tell a sole.:shrug:

[joeysteele]

I don't know what all the fuss is about really; If you've nothing to fear then you have obviousy nothing to hide.

Sorry Jack - Couldn't resist. :laugh:

That should be the case,however over zealous Police activity has been responsible for people being accused of things they haven't done before and down to other members of the public too.

It indeed would be wonderful for all who have done nothing illegal to have no fear of the authorities but if authority is not properly checked then big mistakes can come about.
Even for a time to the innocent.

[arista]

[The shelved Communications Data Bill - labelled a ''snooper's charter'' by critics - would have required
companies to retain phone and email data to include records of browsing activity, social media use and
internet gaming, among other things.
It was blocked by the Liberal Democrats due to privacy concerns during the coalition government
but the forthcoming Investigatory Powers Bill could revive the measures.
Tory MP David Davis told The Times: "It's extraordinary they're asking for this again,
they are overreaching and there is no proven need to retain such data for a year."]


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/30/police-want-power-to-view-browing-history_n_8429792.html?ncid=fcbklnkukhpmg00000001

[arista]

Demolition Man Language violation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4HEEiJuGo


Fecking Ace

[Kizzy]

Demolition Man Language violation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4HEEiJuGo

Did I spy Sir Humphrey Appleby.... How very apt.

[DemolitionRed]

Did I spy Sir Humphrey Appleby.... How very apt.

:joker:

[bots]

Theresa May rules out keeping web browsing data

Security agencies will not be given powers to look at a suspect's website browsing history under new laws, Home Secretary Theresa May has said.
She also told the BBC that companies would not be banned from encrypting data, as she prepares to present a new security bill to Parliament this week.
The bill will allow agencies to see who has spoken to whom, and when.
Former head of GCHQ Sir David Omand has called for internet firms to be forced by law to keep users' browsing history.
He said such data was not for spying on the public but to see "for example, whether a suspect has downloaded a terrorist manual".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34691956

[kirklancaster]

Theresa May rules out keeping web browsing data

Security agencies will not be given powers to look at a suspect's website browsing history under new laws, Home Secretary Theresa May has said.
She also told the BBC that companies would not be banned from encrypting data, as she prepares to present a new security bill to Parliament this week.
The bill will allow agencies to see who has spoken to whom, and when.
Former head of GCHQ Sir David Omand has called for internet firms to be forced by law to keep users' browsing history.
He said such data was not for spying on the public but to see "for example, whether a suspect has downloaded a terrorist manual".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34691956

Thanks for this BitOnTheSlide it certainly puts a new slant on it.

[arista]

Yes its still not even debated in Parliament

[Kizzy]

I got the impression MPs were more worried than the public, they were all for it until they found out it meant them too.

[joeysteele]

Yes its still not even debated in Parliament

She was likely going to face more hassle and defeat in the Lords, that is the reason she is dropping a lot of it.
What a waste of time and space this woman is.

However I am glad they are failing in this again,more badly thought out nonsense from them.

[Kizzy]

Half of me thinks many of these proposals are merely smokescreens for other issues. If we say x they won't notice z....

[T*]

'what the **** is this is big brother?'

[Ryan57]

The bill has now been revealed. Info here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34719569

[waterhog]

I am a bit behind with the news. only found out about this now and here is my 10 cents and my 2 cents is free.


Will UK spy bill risk exposing people's porn habits? (internet history to be stored for 1 year) 05.11.15



i am in trouble

my destiny does hang

i might have to destroy my bubble

go along to suicide bridge and pc bang.

every poem is recorded

its not a thought or theory

the shame and embarrassment is sordid

its all on the hard drive memory.

from news reviews

to television shows

the highs and the blues

plus my love for emmerdale that only grows.

what about my proposals

for love i am a sucker

first come served and no refusals

i am a diver and duck er.

what about my aftershave appreciation

for hours i search for a smell

you no i have "john lewis" contamination

they think my online reviews are swell.

games pass a few hours

they really mess my head and scramble

online is a weakness of my powers

i loose thousands when i gamble.

not sure how its going to fizzle

will the fuzz search every internet file

my poems are online waiting for this sizzle

but for reading everyone is making me smile.









http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34719569

[DemolitionRed]

Here's some thoughts from Bruce Schneier, a highly respected American cryptographer and security expert who is baffled as to why Cameron is attempting to make Britain into a police state http://uk.businessinsider.com/bruce-schneier-david-cameron-proposed-encryption-ban-destroy-the-internet-2015-7

Will David Cameron and his cronies destroy the internet and have businesses rushing away from the British shores faster than a toupee in a hurricane?

Is what Camerons suggesting even possible? according to this article, its not.

[Vanessa]

D:

[T*]

This is good tbh. It will help the police find out more info when dealing with online bullying, hacking, terrorism, etc etc.

I didnt realise they weren't allowed to do so before...

it isn't tbqh because they'll abuse their powers and invade our privacy

[Kizzy]

Are we pandering to someone?

[user104658]

Here's some thoughts from Bruce Schneier, a highly respected American cryptographer and security expert who is baffled as to why Cameron is attempting to make Britain into a police state http://uk.businessinsider.com/bruce-schneier-david-cameron-proposed-encryption-ban-destroy-the-internet-2015-7

Will David Cameron and his cronies destroy the internet and have businesses rushing away from the British shores faster than a toupee in a hurricane?

"Then I wondered why he would even wish for such a thing? Does he realize that this is the sort of thing that only authoritarian governments do? Again, my knowledge of the UK is limited, but I assume they are a free country that champions liberty."

Sadly, it seems that these days, he assumes incorrectly.

Is what Camerons suggesting even possible? according to this article, its not.

Of course it's not, it's not even vaguely feasible, but that's not the point. I doubt theres any real intention of ever making it happen. What he wants, is for people to be fearful and paranoid at the mere mention of it. People hear these rumours and then don't really pay attention to whether or not they've actually come to pass... except that in 3 years time you'll have a tonne of "average" users saying "I remember reading you can't encrypt anything any more and they can see everything that you do online..."

[Kizzy]

So your bank details will be visible to any average 15yr old and the govt?

[Tom4784]

It's just an excuse to invade the privacy of anyone they please. So sick of our rights being violated and justified by them saying it's because of terrorists like it's a buzzword they're holding on to for dear life.

[Red Moon]

It's just an excuse to invade the privacy of anyone they please. So sick of our rights being violated and justified by them saying it's because of terrorists like it's a buzzword they're holding on to for dear life.

It is mass surveillance like we have never seen before. The government will know so much about us and what we do in our lives and who we talk too, what websites we visit and more. They will have data on everyone one of us like they have never had before.

Even after the actual records of the communications have disappeared, after a year, the profile of what we have been doing can be kept by the government and the security services and this can be added to year on year. By the time you die there will be a file of you on a government computer with more much information than anything they record about us now.

In the wrong hands this information controlled by some rouge right wing or left wing government could be used to control and persecute people, just like the KGB didn't in the USSR and like what happens in North Korea today. Could you imagine what Hitler would have done with such information?

Soon people will be saying that they can't talk on the phone, send a text or instant message in case someone is listening. It won't solve the problem of terrorist and other unsavoury types in society it just drive the communication to places where it is safe from the eyes of May and her snoopers.

[Marsh.]

it isn't tbqh because they'll abuse their powers and invade our privacy

I don't think they care about your Korean porn.

[Red Moon]

I don't think they care about your Korean porn.

They probably will

There are plans for all adult related to be part of a scheme which has a central database that contains your details and that are over the age of 18. To access a adult site your access will have to be verified by the central server.

The implementation of the Communications Data Bill will mean that the access to that server will be recorded and records of your viewing habits will be available to government agencies.

[T*]

I don't think they care about your Korean porn.



They'll care about your hardcore German stuff though

[JoshBB]

This is a step beyond the line of surveillance that is acceptable in my view. To investigate the internet histories & communications of suspected terrorists is justified, spying on citizens without reason is of disturbing resemblance to an Orwellian distopia and it is totally not okay.

(ok look how poetic that was. anyway yeah surveillance to this extent is bad plz stop it davey cameron)

[Marsh.]

They'll care about your hardcore German stuff though

There's nothing wrong with German porn. :nono:

[JoshBB]

There's nothing wrong with German porn. :nono:

unless you're spanking the monkey to ang merks. in which case, there is a LOT wrong.

[Red Moon]

There's nothing wrong with German porn. :nono:

Could be if it contains bottom sex - "UK Government concerned too many people could be trying anal sex" - Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/anal-sex-young-people-consultation-dcms-government-tories-worried-thatcher-a6980041.html)

It is one of the reasons that they want a central database of those who want to access porn.

This is a step beyond the line of surveillance that is acceptable in my view. To investigate the internet histories & communications of suspected terrorists is justified, spying on citizens without reason is of disturbing resemblance to an Orwellian distopia and it is totally not okay.

(ok look how poetic that was. anyway yeah surveillance to this extent is bad plz stop it davey cameron)

You will never know who is looking at those records and what they hold because of loop holes in the Data Protection Act that allows the government to keep personal details on you without having register the data on the grounds of national security or any other public function exercised in the public interest.

[Cherie]

The police haven't got the resources to respond to your burglary never mind regularly monitor Joe Bloggs internet history

[arista]

we are all in trouble



Thisisbigbrother.com



:worry:


Yes LT
Clever

[the truth]

surely its time the political correctists changed it to big sister?

[Mystic Mock]

Is that not invasion of privacy?

It is but as it's not China, Russia, or the Middle East it's okay apparently.

[Mystic Mock]

Could be if it contains bottom sex - "UK Government concerned too many people could be trying anal sex" - Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/anal-sex-young-people-consultation-dcms-government-tories-worried-thatcher-a6980041.html)

It is one of the reasons that they want a central database of those who want to access porn.



You will never know who is looking at those records and what they hold because of loop holes in the Data Protection Act that allows the government to keep personal details on you without having register the data on the grounds of national security or any other public function exercised in the public interest.

That's me screwed then.:joker:

[RichardG]

I hope the police like beautiful korean boy bands because they're gonna be seeing a lot of them when they're sat round the table spying on my history :shame:

[Black Dagger]

Hope they like monster cocks as well.

[the truth]

I hope the police like beautiful korean boy bands because they're gonna be seeing a lot of them when they're sat round the table spying on my history :shame:

lol
im sure some of them do

[Mystic Mock]

I hope they like blonde girls stripping off too.

[DemolitionRed]

Oppressive laws are being made under the guise of protecting us all from the Jihadists and the frightening thing is, there are far too many compliant citizens who believe this is for the greater good. Ben Franklin once said, “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

These laws aren’t about Jihadists, they are about mining information on each and every individual in the UK...Remember, knowledge is power.

But lets not kid ourselves that snooping isn't happening in the here and now. Back in 2013 Snowden leaked multiple documents revealing GCHQ had been spying on millions of people, which included monitoring phone conversations and internet communications. The consequences of that was, companies around the world tried suing the government. The government quickly and quietly rewrote and amended hacking laws which of course made them exempt from prosecution. The government didn’t inform the news outlets or public that they were slipping in this new bill, it just appeared on the 11th hour of the first trial.

This act now means that we can no longer sue GCHQ or the police for mining our personal information. Problems with encryption are the only reason we, the public are suddenly more aware of these snooping laws. If companies like Apple hadn't kicked up a stink, its just another new bill that would of quietly slipped through.

Its Orwellian corporate espionage. What next... the secret police?

[the truth]

100% agree with that. all our information has either been sold off or stolen, the repercussions will be horrific. enemies of the state or corporations will be arrested and locked up without trial based on what cops and intelligence allegedly find in their emails and computers

[DemolitionRed]

100% agree with that. all our information has either been sold off or stolen, the repercussions will be horrific. enemies of the state or corporations will be arrested and locked up without trial based on what cops and intelligence allegedly find in their emails and computers

and of course, if we allow the law to become a political weapon, then everyone will have no choice but to tow the party line because people, including activists will be picked up on vague suspicions.

When our government departments route out a criminal we all say “well done” but when a whistle-blower routes out illegal government activity, half the nation call that whistle-blower an ‘enemy of the state’ :conf:. Governments regularly classify things because they know its either illegal or embarrassing….We need to protect our whistle-blowers.

[the truth]

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