The Rise of Gay "Chemsex"

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Gay men having 72-hour sex sessions with multiple partners under the influence of illegal drugs is 'causing rates of HIV and other STIs to soar'


Drugs including GHB and crystal meth are being used to enhance pleasure
Users often found to have unprotected sex and sex with multiple partners
Chemsex is growing in popularity, 'particularly among gay men'
Doctors are warning people are also jeopardising their mental health


Its growing popularity, particularly among gay men, has led doctors to warn that HIV rates and sexually-transmitted diseases cases are rising rapidly.

Sex during the illegal drug-fuelled sessions is often unprotected - with those having chemsex reporting an average five sexual partners per session, according to the British Medical Journal.

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Are you involved in Chemsex?:nono:

[kirklancaster]

Yeah.

I have to take an athritis tablet so I can walk to the bed, and an anti-amnesia pill to help me remember what I've walked to the bed for. Once on the bed I'm ok - unless my wife wants to join in, then I also need a viagara. This is chem-sex right? :hehe:

[arista]

Yes Dirty buggers

[kirklancaster]

Yes Dirty buggers

:laugh:

[Jamie89]

Yeah.

I have to take an athritis tablet so I can walk to the bed, and an anti-amnesia pill to help me remember what I've walked to the bed for. Once on the bed I'm ok - unless my wife wants to join in, then I also need a viagara. This is chem-sex right? :hehe:

Does your wife then take an amnesia pill after the act Kirk? :hehe:

[Jamie89]

Chemsex is a massive problem and what annoys me the most about the issue is that it seems to get NO coverage in the media. And I think a big reason for that is that people are afraid of seeming homophobic by catagorizing it as a gay problem, when it really is. That's not to say that straight people don't also use drugs but it's about culture. And there is a gay culture which contained within it has a subset who are actively promoting the use of drugs through outlets such as Grindr, and noone seems to be doing ANYTHING about it :conf:

I think it's only gay people who can stop this sort of thing but it starts with education. Unfortunately we live in a society where stuff like this isn't talked about in schools but if you want to change a social mindset, it starts with the young while they are still learning and forming their attitudes towards life and health and sexual safety. I say send gay men who have been affected by drugs, diseases and in particular, 'chemsex' into schools to talk to the pupils, and maybe we'll start to see a change.

[kirklancaster]

Does your wife then take an amnesia pill after the act Kirk? :hehe:


:laugh:

Only if I remember to untie her. :joker:

[Liam-]

Ew, I see people talking about this all the time and it's disgusting, alright have your fun but to actively put yourself in dangers way by taking part in something that is so unsafe and reckless is disgusting to me, the types of gays that take part in these things should be avoided at all costs imo, breeding grounds for all sorts.

[lostalex]

This is not a new thing, it's just a new buzz word that the media is jumping on. kinda like "twerking" people have been jiggling their asses while dancing since the 90's, same with gay guys having marathon sex on meth. I certainly had some amazing 2 day sessions in my youth.

[Jamie89]

This is not a new thing, it's just a new buzz word that the media is jumping on. kinda like "twerking" people have been jiggling their asses while dancing since the 90's, same with gay guys having marathon sex on meth. I certainly had some amazing 2 day sessions in my youth.

It's not new but it's becoming more commonplace within the gay community which is the danger.

[Livia]

Yeah.

I have to take an athritis tablet so I can walk to the bed, and an anti-amnesia pill to help me remember what I've walked to the bed for. Once on the bed I'm ok - unless my wife wants to join in, then I also need a viagara. This is chem-sex right? :hehe:

Be honest Kirk. You only take Viagra to stop you rolling out of bed.

[Marsh.]

@Jay

[Marsh.]

Be honest Kirk. You only take Viagra to stop you rolling out of bed.

:joker: :joker: :joker:

[Livia]

I love you Marshy, you always laugh at my jokes x

[Kizzy]

It seems hedonism outweighs the risk.
Not sure how to combat this it's a culture thing :/ Awareness and advice I guess.

[lostalex]

It seems hedonism outweighs the risk.
Not sure how to combat this it's a culture thing :/ Awareness and advice I guess.

yes, the culture of young beautiful people doing drugs and having sex in their free time... i don't know how you'd combat that culture, it seems very natural.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i would be worried that my crack pipe broke after sticking it up my arse

:worry:

[Marsh.]

i would be worried that my crack pipe broke after sticking it up my arse

:worry:

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Kizzy]

yes, the culture of young beautiful people doing drugs and having sex in their free time... i don't know how you'd combat that culture, it seems very natural.

I meant combat the rise in STIs as a result Alex.

[lostalex]

I meant combat the rise in STIs as a result Alex.

oh, well that's easy. Condoms and PReP.

[Northern Monkey]

Tbh it's not just a gay thing and it's not new.I'm sure many of us in our youth used to do drugs and had marathon sex sessions.

[Jamie89]

Tbh it's not just a gay thing and it's not new.I'm sure many of us in our youth used to do drugs and had marathon sex sessions.

Yes but again, it's not just about the fact that it's happening, it's that it's rising at such a high rate amongst gay men that's the issue.

[Smithy]

Tbh I think people know the risks when they engage in behaviour like this, if they get some kind of disease it's their own fault :shrug:

[Marsh.]

Tbh I think people know the risks when they engage in behaviour like this, if they get some kind of disease it's their own fault :shrug:

This tbh.

If anyone isn't aware in this day and age of the risks of unprotected sex and drug use then there's nothing that can be done for them.

[Cherie]

Tbh it's not just a gay thing and it's not new.I'm sure many of us in our youth used to do drugs and had marathon sex sessions.

You bragger :laugh:

[JoshBB]

Never heard of this before.. just wear protection and make sure you don't let any fluids of an STD-infected person inside of you. Pretty simple really.

[Northern Monkey]

You bragger :laugh:

Hey i admitted nothing:laugh:

[Marsh.]

Never heard of this before.. just wear protection and make sure you don't let any fluids of an STD-infected person inside of you. Pretty simple really.

If only life was that simple. :laugh:

Especially when it comes to these people possibly sharing needles.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the 90s for me was one big needle

[Marsh.]

the 90s for me was one big needle

Disgusting.

[Rob!]

I went for an STD test recently (I'm free of ailments before anyone starts :nono:) and there is a particular part of the test that you have a throat swab with. The reason it's there is because people share things like straws when they're taking some drugs that you sniff. A lot of the stuff in things like Coke can actually cut your nose as it's going up so it's actually possible to catch an infection from someone if their blood touches yours.

[Marsh.]

so it's actually possible to catch an infection from someone if their blood touches yours.

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[Rob!]

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I strive to educate :smug:

[lostalex]

i've never heard of a case where someone got HIV/AIDS from sharing a STRAW to snort powder... do you have any references for that??? I'm pretty sure it's just needles and sex...

[Marsh.]

I don't recall Rob specifying AIDS and HIV?

There are many other infections/diseases that are spread through sharing bodily fluids.

[Rob!]

i've never heard of a case where someone got HIV/AIDS from sharing a STRAW to snort powder... do you have any references for that??? I'm pretty sure it's just needles and sex...

You may not have heard of it but it is possible. It's the same as someone with infected blood putting an open cut on someone else's open cut. Blood goes on the straw from the drug cutting the inside of your nose and then the same straw is placed into someone else's nostril who also has a cut on the inside of the nose from sniffing the drugs.

[lostalex]

I don't recall Rob specifying AIDS and HIV?

There are many other infections/diseases that are spread through sharing bodily fluids.

well you can get Herpes from drinking from the same cup...

But i assumed he was referring to the more serious of STDs.

so let's keep things in perspective.

[lostalex]

You may not have heard of it but it is possible. It's the same as someone with infected blood putting an open cut on someone else's open cut. Blood goes on the straw from the drug cutting the inside of your nose and then the same straw is placed into someone else's nostril who also has a cut on the inside of the nose from sniffing the drugs.

well by that logic you can also say that anyone who plays contact sports, a rugby player who has any blood anywhere could technically transfer it to another player just by playing rugby, so really rugby is just as dangerous for getting HIV as sharing a rolled up dollar bill...

Let's try to keep things in perspective.

[Marsh.]

well you can get Herpes from drinking from the same cup...

But i assumed he was referring to the more serious of STDs.

so let's keep things in perspective.

Yeah, you can also get different forms of hepatitis either from sex or sharing drug paraphernalia. Who said it wasn't in perspective?

There are many serious STD's/diseases that aren't always HIV you know?

[Marsh.]

well by that logic you can also say that anyone who plays contact sports, a rugby player who has any blood anywhere could technically transfer it to another player just by playing rugby, so really rugby is just as dangerous for getting HIV as sharing a rolled up dollar bill...

Let's try to keep things in perspective.

Yes, but who's more likely to be sharing bodily fluids/spreading diseases?

The rugby player with the small chance of having a cut, the small chance of him having an infection to start with and the small chance of his blood coming into contact with another player?

Or the frequent drug user who often has casual sex? Activities where they're not exactly going to be in the most rational frame of mind to be safe etc. It kind of speaks for itself.

That's like saying anyone can be burned by fire in their own home by matches or kitchen equipment. It's all the same chance. Well it isn't, that doesn't mean there aren't people, like firefighters, who obviously have a MUCH higher chance of this happening.



The firefighter who frequently takes drugs, has casual sex and plays rugby on the weekend though. :omgno:

[lostalex]

Yes, but who's more likely to be sharing bodily fluids/spreading diseases?

The rugby player with the small chance of having a cut, the small chance of him having an infection to start with and the small chance of his blood coming into contact with another player?

Or the frequent drug user who often has casual sex? Activities where they're not exactly going to be in the most rational frame of mind to be safe etc. It kind of speaks for itself.

That's like saying anyone can be burned by fire in their own home by matches or kitchen equipment. It's all the same chance. Well it isn't, that doesn't mean there aren't people, like firefighters, who obviously have a MUCH higher chance of this happening.



The firefighter who frequently takes drugs, has casual sex and plays rugby on the weekend though. :omgno:
i wasn't talking about casual sex and needle drug use.. i was just comparing it to the using a straw up your nose drug use that he was claiming is risky behavior.

obviously anyone who shares needles and has unprotected sex is a million times more ub danger, but that wasn't what i was referring to, i was referring to the claim that sharing a straw to sniff drugs can give you aids, and i rightly pointed out that that is not really risky behavior.

[Rob!]

i wasn't talking about casual sex and needle drug use.. i was just comparing it to the using a straw up your nose drug use that he was claiming is risky behavior

I wasn't claiming anything, it's a fact. I don't really get what you're finding so difficult to understand in what I've said. It can take the smallest bacteria to infect someone, and blood on a straw or a note that is going up another cut up nostril is enough to transfer disease, hence the test.

[lostalex]

I wasn't claiming anything, it's a fact. I don't really get what you're finding so difficult to understand in what I've said. It can take the smallest bacteria to infect someone, and blood on a straw or a note that is going up another cut up nostril is enough to transfer disease, hence the test.

yes, just like playing rugby and getting scraps on your knees with other players puts you at risk... actually that would put you at more risk. playing rugby is more of an HIV danger than sniffing cocaine, that's all i'm saying.

[Marsh.]

yes, just like playing rugby and getting scraps on your knees with other players puts you at risk...

But who's blood is more likely to give you some yucky infection? A rugby player or a drug addict? :hee:

[lostalex]

But who's blood is more likely to give you some yucky infection? A rugby player or a drug addict? :hee:

well considering the kind of risky sex rugby players are known to enjoy off of the field, definitely the rugby player.

[Rob!]

yes, just like playing rugby and getting scraps on your knees with other players puts you at risk... actually that would put you at more risk. playing rugby is more of an HIV danger than sniffing cocaine, that's all i'm saying.

At no point in the test was I asked if I play rugby. Maybe the NHS is missing a trick there.

[lostalex]

At no point in the test was I asked if I play rugby. Maybe the NHS is missing a trick there.

well state funded medical care is known to be subpar. especially in the UK.

[Marsh.]

Known by who? Fox News? :unsure:

[kirklancaster]

Be honest Kirk. You only take Viagra to stop you rolling out of bed.

:laugh::laugh::laugh: True Liv.

[Cherie]

At no point in the test was I asked if I play rugby. Maybe the NHS is missing a trick there.

:joker:

[Kizzy]

The lining of the nose is very thin, it's why they give kids flu innoculations nasally it is absorbed straight into the bloodstream.
The risk playing rugby? With the dirt and the sweat and the moisture and the fact your blood is flowing out of a wound not in....virtually non existent.
Which is why rugby players aren't in the group of those at risk.