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arista
04-11-2015, 06:02 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/04/15/2E1A573500000578-0-image-a-110_1446650951019.jpg

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Bundle


2 day Event

Ref: ITV1 London News

lostalex
04-11-2015, 06:03 PM
nice pics, but can you please tell us why?

arista
04-11-2015, 06:04 PM
nice pics, but can you please tell us why?


The punks want Education "Free"

arista
04-11-2015, 06:05 PM
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You Fecking cowards

arista
04-11-2015, 06:06 PM
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Jamie89
04-11-2015, 06:09 PM
The punks want Education "Free"

Young people want to be educated D: What is the world coming to?

Samm
04-11-2015, 06:11 PM
Fight em! I support the students all the way

Crimson Dynamo
04-11-2015, 06:13 PM
Why has attacking the Police and trying to hurt people who are working got anything to do with education?

Kazanne
04-11-2015, 06:15 PM
Young people want to be educated D: What is the world coming to?

People can be educated without acting like morons because they don't get the hand outs they want,my nephew is a student and I cant believe the money he is given with loans etc,it's not always a good thing to get what you want on demand, these people need to realise the world does not owe them a living.

Vanessa
04-11-2015, 06:16 PM
People can be educated without acting like morons because they don't get the hand outs they want,my nephew is a student and I cant believe the money he is given with loans etc,it's not always a good thing to get what you want on demand, these people need to realise the world does not owe them a living.

:clap2:

Liam-
04-11-2015, 06:17 PM
Yes, people who act like thugs are going to be rewarded, what a foolproof logical plan these people have.

arista
04-11-2015, 06:18 PM
People can be educated without acting like morons because they don't get the hand outs they want,my nephew is a student and I cant believe the money he is given with loans etc,it's not always a good thing to get what you want on demand, these people need to realise the world does not owe them a living.


Bang On Right Kaz

arista
04-11-2015, 06:20 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/04/17/2E1ACCD700000578-3303774-image-m-16_1446658959416.jpg
Chuck Water on Him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3303774/Scuffles-break-march-against-university-tuition-fees-shadow-chancellor-John-McDonnell-accuses-Government-betraying-students.html

Shaun
04-11-2015, 06:37 PM
People can be educated without acting like morons because they don't get the hand outs they want,my nephew is a student and I cant believe the money he is given with loans etc,it's not always a good thing to get what you want on demand, these people need to realise the world does not owe them a living.

Kinda easy to say that when you're not of the generation where tuition fees are actually a thing.

Cherie
04-11-2015, 06:38 PM
People can be educated without acting like morons because they don't get the hand outs they want,my nephew is a student and I cant believe the money he is given with loans etc,it's not always a good thing to get what you want on demand, these people need to realise the world does not owe them a living.

The money he is given will have to be paid back and if he lived north of the border he would be educated in Uni for free, or if he lived in Wales he would be charged a third of fees English students pay, the March was largely peaceful, as usual a few Morons get the publicity

AProducer'sWetDream
04-11-2015, 06:43 PM
Kinda easy to say that when you're not of the generation where tuition fees are actually a thing.

:clap2:

If fees remain at their current level then the course I want to do is going to cost at least £45,000 in tuition fees alone. With living costs etc., this means that I'll essentially start my working life with over £50,000 debt...

lostalex
04-11-2015, 06:58 PM
Can't we just send them all to Syria to make more room for the refugees?

smudgie
04-11-2015, 07:10 PM
Not easy, but if the students are serious about getting good career prospects it will be well worth it.
They will have a lot to pay back but it is staggered over many years when they are on high wages.

Livia
04-11-2015, 07:17 PM
I've got no time for violent protests. They detract from the cause and make participants look like scrummy trouble makers. Which is a shame... because I totally agree with the cause. Further and Higher Education should be free. Always. To everyone. I hope they can think of a way to make their voice heard without being violent and stupid. And it was probably only a minority who kicked off... morons.

MTVN
04-11-2015, 07:25 PM
Well judging by the all black clothing and anarchist flags I think a lot of these would be rioting whatever the state of tuition fees

Worth remembering that in Scotland they have no fees and yet less underprivileged people go to University there than in England. I have thousands of pounds of debt and I have no problem with that: I went to University to improve my career prospects hoping that the long term benefit of my degree will far outweigh the cost of it. As smudige says, the repayment structure is also quite kind and will never be sucking too much out of your pocket at any one time. Yes the previous generation had no fees but then only about 10% of the population went to University: its now 50% and rising despite the increase in tuition fees.

JoshBB
04-11-2015, 08:17 PM
I don't think the student protesters had much to do with this, seems like a few thugs decided that they would use this as an excuse to riot. Seems to always happen.

Ninastar
04-11-2015, 08:19 PM
Cant wait for them to try and harm the police and then claim police brutality

Kizzy
04-11-2015, 08:55 PM
Baseball caps? oof chavs!

Peaceful protest and a heavy handed police presence.

DemolitionRed
04-11-2015, 09:26 PM
Its unfortunate that a handful of activists can take away what this protest actually meant. 10,000 mainly peaceful but unhappy students hardly got a mention.

Northern Monkey
04-11-2015, 09:29 PM
Bloody students.Never happy.I blame their diet.Beer and baked beans will take its tole after a while.

arista
04-11-2015, 09:30 PM
Baseball caps? oof chavs!

Peaceful protest and a heavy handed police presence.


It Was Not

arista
04-11-2015, 09:32 PM
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Copper on the deck

JoshBB
04-11-2015, 09:45 PM
Cant wait for them to try and harm the police and then claim police brutality

Not appropriate in the current climax really is it?

Jack_
04-11-2015, 09:51 PM
http://www.kirazajans.net/public/photo/entry/yflJbzGASDOXNEKmfWuDUuMVTHR43904-800x_.jpg

Cherie
04-11-2015, 10:07 PM
Its unfortunate that a handful of activists can take away what this protest actually meant. 10,000 mainly peaceful but unhappy students hardly got a mention.

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Kizzy
04-11-2015, 10:11 PM
Isn't that how it is always reported whenever there is civil disobedience?

Samm
05-11-2015, 08:14 AM
Not appropriate in the current climax really is it?

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arista
05-11-2015, 06:45 PM
[ Violence Fears Ahead Of London Anonymous March
The Met imposes rigorous restrictions on the planned protest as its organisers tell attendees: "The police are not your friends."]

They were Told to end at 9PM Tonight.

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/11/5/347506/default/v1/10188572-1-1-736x414.jpg

http://news.sky.com/story/1582039/violence-fears-ahead-of-london-anonymous-march

Kizzy
05-11-2015, 07:04 PM
TSG.... Yes be very careful.

arista
06-11-2015, 06:41 AM
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The Punks set a Fake Fire.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/05/22/article-3305777-2E27022300000578-365_964x395.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/05/21/2E26AABF00000578-3305777-image-a-106_1446758566902.jpg
Well Done fella put it out

arista
06-11-2015, 06:47 AM
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No thanks Punk
I am not that hungry


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/05/21/2E26C6B000000578-3305777-image-a-112_1446759362329.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/05/18/2E249C8B00000578-3305777-image-a-25_1446749935003.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3305777/Bottles-hurled-police-men-knives-paint-grenades-lock-picks-arrested-Trafalgar-Square-hundreds-anti-inequality-protestors-march-London.html

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 07:15 AM
It is now time to ban these 'Protests'.

The crap that "It is only a handful of trouble causers who hijack a peaceful protest" does not wash I'm afraid. There are far too many 'masked' people and far too many seen to be actively participating in the unlawfulness and grinning and laughing, for this to be true.

These 'protests' are organised by anti-Democratic agitators, attended by the gullible and criminal, waste our Police resources and hard pressed tax-payers money, and threaten our very way of life as well as the lives of police officers and the poor police horses.

How much longer are we going to treat this anarchy with 'kid gloves? Why should we tolerate these violent anarchist attacks on our democracy? There is a lawful process in place in this great country called 'Elections' and it is a system for which citizens of other non-free, non-democratic countries risk life and limb during genuine protest marches to try to achieve.

The Law Courts should get tougher with the sentencing for any of these bastards who are charged and convicted, with stiff prison sentences being mandatory.

We are under threat. A very real and grave threat, and it's time to take off the gloves.

arista
06-11-2015, 08:08 AM
Sooner or later
we will be using the Water to sort the Punks out.


Kizzy thinks not. of course.

Kizzy
06-11-2015, 10:12 AM
Water cannon are too dangerous, I'm as shocked as the next person they haven't been approved though.

DemolitionRed
06-11-2015, 10:29 AM
It is now time to ban these 'Protests'.

The crap that "It is only a handful of trouble causers who hijack a peaceful protest" does not wash I'm afraid. There are far too many 'masked' people and far too many seen to be actively participating in the unlawfulness and grinning and laughing, for this to be true.

These 'protests' are organised by anti-Democratic agitators, attended by the gullible and criminal, waste our Police resources and hard pressed tax-payers money, and threaten our very way of life as well as the lives of police officers and the poor police horses.

How much longer are we going to treat this anarchy with 'kid gloves? Why should we tolerate these violent anarchist attacks on our democracy? There is a lawful process in place in this great country called 'Elections' and it is a system for which citizens of other non-free, non-democratic countries risk life and limb during genuine protest marches to try to achieve.

The Law Courts should get tougher with the sentencing for any of these bastards who are charged and convicted, with stiff prison sentences being mandatory.

We are under threat. A very real and grave threat, and it's time to take off the gloves.

I'm trying to understand what you mean. You clearly understand that rioting is illegal but your first sentence contradicts this. You can't re-ban what is already an illegal act or are you suggesting protests are banned altogether?

bots
06-11-2015, 10:38 AM
It is now time to ban these 'Protests'.

The crap that "It is only a handful of trouble causers who hijack a peaceful protest" does not wash I'm afraid. There are far too many 'masked' people and far too many seen to be actively participating in the unlawfulness and grinning and laughing, for this to be true.

These 'protests' are organised by anti-Democratic agitators, attended by the gullible and criminal, waste our Police resources and hard pressed tax-payers money, and threaten our very way of life as well as the lives of police officers and the poor police horses.

How much longer are we going to treat this anarchy with 'kid gloves? Why should we tolerate these violent anarchist attacks on our democracy? There is a lawful process in place in this great country called 'Elections' and it is a system for which citizens of other non-free, non-democratic countries risk life and limb during genuine protest marches to try to achieve.

The Law Courts should get tougher with the sentencing for any of these bastards who are charged and convicted, with stiff prison sentences being mandatory.

We are under threat. A very real and grave threat, and it's time to take off the gloves.

The problem is not with the protests, but with the people that use it as an excuse to get involved in civil disorder. So, no it is not time to ban the protests, but time to target those that use them for unlawful purposes.

arista
06-11-2015, 10:56 AM
Water cannon are too dangerous, I'm as shocked as the next person they haven't been approved though.



No it will stop the Punks

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 11:17 AM
This forum is sending me insane. I excelled in Grammar School in English Language and Literature, I have GCE's in English, won numerous writing awards, sold short stories and been praised by Channel 4 and the BBC for the quality of my writing and the merit of my three submitted Drama scripts. In addition, I have written Campaign articles for The Labour Party and UKIP, but now no one on here seems to understand what the **** I am saying.

I think it's time I shut up.

Niamh.
06-11-2015, 11:22 AM
I don't understand how you expect to post in the debate section of the Forum but not have your opinions challenged, that is what this section of the forum is about after all Kirk :laugh:

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 11:28 AM
I don't understand how you expect to post in the debate section of the Forum but not have your opinions challenged, that is what this section of the forum is about after all Kirk :laugh:

I'm not annoyed Niamh - just frustrated,, and it's not about being challenged, I expect that because I know my views stink sometimes.:hehe: It's when people claim to not understand what I'm talking about or claim to be struggling to understand the points I'm making - despite the fact that I have stated such points clearly.

I end up re-reading my post for fear that alzheimers is getting me. :laugh:

Jamie89
06-11-2015, 11:30 AM
This forum is sending me insane. I excelled in Grammar School in English Language and Literature, I have GCE's in English, won numerous writing awards, sold short stories and been praised by Channel 4 and the BBC for the quality of my writing and the merit of my three submitted Drama scripts. In addition, I have written Campaign articles for The Labour Party and UKIP, but now no one on here seems to understand what the **** I am saying.

I think it's time I shut up.

What are you trying to say??? :conf:












just pulling your leg :joker:

Niamh.
06-11-2015, 11:33 AM
I'm not annoyed Niamh - just frustrated,, and it's not about being challenged, I expect that because I know my views stink sometimes.:hehe: It's when people claim to not understand what I'm talking about or claim to be struggling to understand the points I'm making - despite the fact that I have stated such points clearly.

I end up re-reading my post for fear that alzheimers is getting me. :laugh:

tbf to DR though I do get why she asked you that question, how can you ban protests that may turn into civil disobedience/riots without banning all protests, or do you think Protests in general should be banned?

Alf
06-11-2015, 11:34 AM
They're not protesters, they're scumbag thugs making no point.

arista
06-11-2015, 11:37 AM
They're not protesters, they're scumbag thugs making no point.


Bang On Right

Jay.
06-11-2015, 11:40 AM
i agree with them on tuition fees, but surely there is a better, more educated, way of dealing with it? this won't do a thing lmao.

Jamie89
06-11-2015, 11:42 AM
They're not protesters, they're scumbag thugs making no point.

If there is a protest though, you can't really stop scumbag thugs from taking part. The only way to stop that would be to stop protests altogether but that would never/should never happen.

Niamh.
06-11-2015, 11:44 AM
If there is a protest though, you can't really stop scumbag thugs from taking part. The only way to stop that would be to stop protests altogether but that would never/should never happen.

Yeah that's the dilemma really, people should have a right to Protest, it's just a shame that a minority ruin it for the genuine people

arista
06-11-2015, 12:01 PM
But you can Tell them to End at 9PM
and not go onto side streets.

Last night those Rules
were broken.
So The police Did a Good Job
Stopping the Criminal Punks

Kizzy
06-11-2015, 12:07 PM
This forum is sending me insane. I excelled in Grammar School in English Language and Literature, I have GCE's in English, won numerous writing awards, sold short stories and been praised by Channel 4 and the BBC for the quality of my writing and the merit of my three submitted Drama scripts. In addition, I have written Campaign articles for The Labour Party and UKIP, but now no one on here seems to understand what the **** I am saying.

I think it's time I shut up.

Sorry but I don't find you responses that easy to fathom, take that analogy yesterday that had many puzzled.
So maybe you're just too great for us mere mortals to comprehend? you should tone it down a bit.
I don't believe for one second you should ban protests, as said there will be tag along trouble makers at any organised peaceful protest. You can't take away long campaigned and hard won rights due to this...
As DR said if there are those committing unlawful acts then arrest them, that shouldn't include those who simply wish to protest against an issue.
Yes the govt is elected... if they begin to implement policies that were not in their manifesto and therefore not what the electorate voted for then there is cause to protest.
How can a non violent protest be considered a threat?

Kazanne
06-11-2015, 12:07 PM
It is now time to ban these 'Protests'.

The crap that "It is only a handful of trouble causers who hijack a peaceful protest" does not wash I'm afraid. There are far too many 'masked' people and far too many seen to be actively participating in the unlawfulness and grinning and laughing, for this to be true.

These 'protests' are organised by anti-Democratic agitators, attended by the gullible and criminal, waste our Police resources and hard pressed tax-payers money, and threaten our very way of life as well as the lives of police officers and the poor police horses.

How much longer are we going to treat this anarchy with 'kid gloves? Why should we tolerate these violent anarchist attacks on our democracy? There is a lawful process in place in this great country called 'Elections' and it is a system for which citizens of other non-free, non-democratic countries risk life and limb during genuine protest marches to try to achieve.

The Law Courts should get tougher with the sentencing for any of these bastards who are charged and convicted, with stiff prison sentences being mandatory.

We are under threat. A very real and grave threat, and it's time to take off the gloves.

:clap1: I have to say these 'people' firstly need an education on how to act like a human being and not think they can get what they want by throwing tantrums,trashing stuff,burning cars and injuring others,someone probably wanted a free tele !!!, and if they are up front about what they want and are not out to be troublemaking then why are most of them walking round with faces covered so it's hard to identify them?

Kizzy
06-11-2015, 12:21 PM
That would be a good idea if they were identifiable, however the people in employment among them may feel their positions could be at risk if identified as an activist.
Those committing offences should of course be dealt with severely as they are ruining public perception of protesters, and turning the focus from real issues.

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 12:22 PM
tbf to DR though I do get why she asked you that question, how can you ban protests that may turn into civil disobedience/riots without banning all protests, or do you think Protests in general should be banned?

Yes Niamh, I do not believe that these things are as innocent as people make out. It is NOT genuine students organising these, it is anti-democratic agitators masquerading as students. These are well planned in advance and well publicised and attract gullible genuine students who are misled, as well as anti-democratic thugs who revel in the opportunity to attack police and property with impunity under the cover of a mask or scarf.

Some large conference room should be made available by the government where disgruntled students can sit down and argue their case against government ministers and representatives over a professional PA system. The whole thing could be officially run similar to PMQT with TV cameras and news media present.

I 1,000% support the protesting student's cause - my own son has £40,000 of 'Student Debt' - but falling for these anarchist orgies of violence masquerading as 'peaceful protest' does nothing to aid their cause. In fact; even the message is lost - overshadowed and marginalised by the inevitable violence and lawlessness.

We need draconian sentencing for any thugs convicted because it will serve as a deterrent to some, but even if it does not, it takes at least some of the scumbags off the streets and prevents them from physically joining any more B.S protests -- for the duration of their sentences at least.

Kizzy
06-11-2015, 12:27 PM
What happened to the good old fashioned sit in?... You can't be accused of any acts of violence or destruction chained to a desk :laugh:

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 12:27 PM
Sorry but I don't find you responses that easy to fathom, take that analogy yesterday that had many puzzled.
So maybe you're just too great for us mere mortals to comprehend? you should tone it down a bit.
I don't believe for one second you should ban protests, as said there will be tag along trouble makers at any organised peaceful protest. You can't take away long campaigned and hard won rights due to this...
As DR said if there are those committing unlawful acts then arrest them, that shouldn't include those who simply wish to protest against an issue.
Yes the govt is elected... if they begin to implement policies that were not in their manifesto and therefore not what the electorate voted for then there is cause to protest.
How can a non violent protest be considered a threat?

Perhaps you could list some of these 'Non-Violent' protests?

Niamh.
06-11-2015, 12:28 PM
Yes Niamh, I do not believe that these things are as innocent as people make out. It is NOT genuine students organising these anti-democratic agitators masquerading as students. These are well planned in advance and well publicised and attract gullible genuine students who are misled, as well as anti-democratic thugs who revel in the opportunity to attack police and property with impunity under the cover of a mask or scarf.

Some large conference room should be made available by the government where disgruntled students can sit down and argue their case against government ministers and representatives over a professional PA system. The whole thing could be officially run similar to PMQT wiiiiith TV cameras and news media present.

I 1,000% support the protesting student's cause - my own son has £40,000 of 'Student Debt' - but falling for these anarchist orgies of violence masquerading as 'peaceful protest' does nothing to aid their cause. In fact; even the message is lost - overshadowed and marginalised by the inevitable violence and lawlessness.

We need draconian sentencing for any thugs convicted because it will serve as a deterrent to some, but even if it does not, it takes at least some of the scumbags off the streets and prevents them from physically joining any more B.S protests -- for the duration of their sentences at least.

So basically you think that the government should come up with a different way of letting people protest? The problem with that though, it would then be a Protest at the Government's convenience which kind of defeats the whole point of a Protest in the first place

Kizzy
06-11-2015, 12:31 PM
Perhaps you could list some of these 'Non-Violent' protests?

They're all protests.....
You can't blame the many for the acts of the few, and as punishment take everyones civil rights away, that's ridiculous.

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 12:37 PM
So basically you think that the government should come up with a different way of letting people protest? The problem with that though, it would then be a Protest at the Government's convenience which kind of defeats the whole point of a Protest in the first place

No Niamh - not to let the government 'Stage Manage' and dictate the event, just provide permanent facilities which bodies of protesting citizens can utilise to air their grievances civilly, intelligently, and peacefully against government representatives - and in front of the press.

Publicity by internet for even the most genuine of these events is like teenagers naively messaging their friends via facebook that they are having a party because mum and dad are away for the weekend - the wrong type of trouble-causing gate-crashers ALWAYS turn up in number to demolish the house and property, wreak havoc, and spoil what was genuinely intended to be a 'cool, ordinary teenagers party'.

Livia
06-11-2015, 12:42 PM
[ Violence Fears Ahead Of London Anonymous March
The Met imposes rigorous restrictions on the planned protest as its organisers tell attendees: "The police are not your friends."]

They were Told to end at 9PM Tonight.

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/11/5/347506/default/v1/10188572-1-1-736x414.jpg

http://news.sky.com/story/1582039/violence-fears-ahead-of-london-anonymous-march

Hilarious point made on The Wright Stuff today. For every "V for Vendetta" mask that's sold to anti-capitalists, 2% goes to... Warner Brothers. It's the definition of irony.

Niamh.
06-11-2015, 12:44 PM
Hilarious point made on The Wright Stuff today. For every "V for Vendetta" mask that's sold to anti-capitalists, 2% goes to... Warner Brothers. It's the definition of irony.

:laugh:

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 12:49 PM
They're all protests.....
You can't blame the many for the acts of the few, and as punishment take everyones civil rights away, that's ridiculous.

So I take it your use of the phrase; 'Peaceful Protest' is a misnomer?

And I am NOT blaming the 'many for the acts of the few' if you mean students by that, I am saying that I do not believe that it IS only a few, because the evidence seems to be that too many are masked, and those that aren't who are not seen to be actively taking part in unlawful acts, still appear to be supportive and condoning those who are by their grinning and laughter.

If we are proffering true democracy here with the use of 'the many and the few', then what about the 'MANY' of us who are not protesting but have to pay for the cost of all the damage and police man hours increasingly incurred by these protests of the 'FEW'?

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 12:52 PM
Hilarious point made on The Wright Stuff today. For every "V for Vendetta" mask that's sold to anti-capitalists, 2% goes to... Warner Brothers. It's the definition of irony.

:laugh: Trouble is Liv, that word would be lost on a lot of these 'peaceful protesters' - they think 'irony' is something the bars which they smash property up with are made out of.

Livia
06-11-2015, 12:57 PM
:laugh: Trouble is Liv, that word would be lost on a lot of these 'peaceful protesters' - they think 'irony' is something the bars which they smash property up with are made out of.

Feel a bit sad for the people who went to make their point because as I said before, I totally agree with free education. The usual few turn up and ruin it probably wouldn't understand the concept of irony. If you have to cover your face to protest then you have not the courage of your convictions as far as I'm concerned. And I'd guess that none of the mask wearers are currently doing anything post-grad, nor will they ever.

Anyhoo, their ignorance makes a nice little Jewish firm 2%! What's not to love already?

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 01:05 PM
Feel a bit sad for the people who went to make their point because as I said before, I totally agree with free education. The usual few turn up and ruin it probably wouldn't understand the concept of irony. If you have to cover your face to protest then you have not the courage of your convictions as far as I'm concerned. And I'd guess that none of the mask wearers are currently doing anything post-grad, nor will they ever.

Anyhoo, their ignorance makes a nice little Jewish firm 2%! What's not to love already?

:laugh:

DemolitionRed
06-11-2015, 01:11 PM
This forum is sending me insane. I excelled in Grammar School in English Language and Literature, I have GCE's in English, won numerous writing awards, sold short stories and been praised by Channel 4 and the BBC for the quality of my writing and the merit of my three submitted Drama scripts. In addition, I have written Campaign articles for The Labour Party and UKIP, but now no one on here seems to understand what the **** I am saying.

I think it's time I shut up.

I think you should stop being such a sensitive soul. When I quoted your post, I merely challenged what you had written to topic. I wasn't questioning you about your education or career portfolio.

If you feel there should be strict limits on someone's right to protest and I don't, then everything is fair game...we simply have a disagreement about where those lines should be drawn.

arista
06-11-2015, 01:20 PM
Hilarious point made on The Wright Stuff today. For every "V for Vendetta" mask that's sold to anti-capitalists, 2% goes to... Warner Brothers. It's the definition of irony.


For Sure

smudgie
06-11-2015, 01:21 PM
Total failure.
The spokesman on the dailypolitic show did them no favours either.
Calling a female panellist sweetheart in a condescending manner, twit.
Absolute shambles, you have protestors for animal rights amongst protestors that think its fine to throw firecrackers at the police horses:spin:
No organisation at all, just a free for all advertised on Facebook.
If no laws are broken and it is indeed a peaceful protest then surely there would be no need for masks.
Masks, hoodies, a scarf over your face etc should be banned.
Courage of your convictions, stand proud and show who you are.

DemolitionRed
06-11-2015, 01:35 PM
The Million Mask protest is an annual event. Each year it covers a collective of different things. This year it was dominated by those protesting about government malpractice, civil liberties, migrants, the elderly and disabled discrimination. It also contained small fractions of disgruntled students and junior doctors who are about to suffer some fairly severe pay cuts. It even had a group of bikers who were protesting about something to do with stunt riding.

Kazanne
06-11-2015, 02:29 PM
Total failure.
The spokesman on the dailypolitic show did them no favours either.
Calling a female panellist sweetheart in a condescending manner, twit.
Absolute shambles, you have protestors for animal rights amongst protestors that think its fine to throw firecrackers at the police horses:spin:
No organisation at all, just a free for all advertised on Facebook.
If no laws are broken and it is indeed a peaceful protest then surely there would be no need for masks.
Masks, hoodies, a scarf over your face etc should be banned.
Courage of your convictions, stand proud and show who you are.

Well said smudgie and I see some poor pig also died had its head sliced off ,all for someone to think they were funny by holding it aloft,or actually making a point,bloody arseholes make me sick.

joeysteele
06-11-2015, 02:32 PM
That would be a good idea if they were identifiable, however the people in employment among them may feel their positions could be at risk if identified as an activist.
Those committing offences should of course be dealt with severely as they are ruining public perception of protesters, and turning the focus from real issues.

Perfectly put,fairly and spot on.

arista
06-11-2015, 02:58 PM
Total failure.
The spokesman on the dailypolitic show did them no favours either.
Calling a female panellist sweetheart in a condescending manner, twit.
Absolute shambles, you have protestors for animal rights amongst protestors that think its fine to throw firecrackers at the police horses:spin:
No organisation at all, just a free for all advertised on Facebook.
If no laws are broken and it is indeed a peaceful protest then surely there would be no need for masks.
Masks, hoodies, a scarf over your face etc should be banned.
Courage of your convictions, stand proud and show who you are.


Yes I put that on DVD-R

What a Punk

Nedusa
06-11-2015, 03:00 PM
Ridiculous bunch of unshaven , baseball Cap wearing, foul mouth hooligans....oh and the rioters were not much better lol...

Northern Monkey
06-11-2015, 03:05 PM
Let them protest.However as soon as they start smashing stuff up or hurting people hit them with water cannons and rubber bullets and arrest them.Let them know there's concequences for being a wanker.

arista
06-11-2015, 03:29 PM
Let them protest.However as soon as they start smashing stuff up or hurting people hit them with water cannons and rubber bullets and arrest them.Let them know there's concequences for being a wanker.


Yes thats just the way it should be.

Samuel.
06-11-2015, 03:40 PM
The violent minority of any protest are unbelievably stupid and annoying. They make it so easy for the protest to be disregarded as hooliganism, and sadly this appears to be another case of that. What complete and utter idiots that can't control themselves and spoil it for everybody else.

arista
06-11-2015, 03:43 PM
The violent minority of any protest are unbelievably stupid and annoying. They make it so easy for the protest to be disregarded as hooliganism, and sadly this appears to be another case of that. What complete and utter idiots that can't control themselves and spoil it for everybody else.


Set off a Firework at a Police Horse

Livia
06-11-2015, 04:18 PM
Set off a Firework at a Police Horse

Six police horses injured. What a bunch of heroes...

Cherie
06-11-2015, 04:24 PM
The violent minority of any protest are unbelievably stupid and annoying. They make it so easy for the protest to be disregarded as hooliganism, and sadly this appears to be another case of that. What complete and utter idiots that can't control themselves and spoil it for everybody else.

They have no intention of controlling themselves, who goes to a march with a firework and a mask in their pocket

Kizzy
06-11-2015, 04:55 PM
So I take it your use of the phrase; 'Peaceful Protest' is a misnomer?

And I am NOT blaming the 'many for the acts of the few' if you mean students by that, I am saying that I do not believe that it IS only a few, because the evidence seems to be that too many are masked, and those that aren't who are not seen to be actively taking part in unlawful acts, still appear to be supportive and condoning those who are by their grinning and laughter.

If we are proffering true democracy here with the use of 'the many and the few', then what about the 'MANY' of us who are not protesting but have to pay for the cost of all the damage and police man hours increasingly incurred by these protests of the 'FEW'?

No is isn't a misnomer... the majority are peaceful and some were not, I have mentioned that.
Whether student protest or anti austerity they have much public support, it's impossible to say if those that think as you do are in the majority or not.

DemolitionRed
06-11-2015, 05:53 PM
@if we are proffering true democracy here with the use of 'the many and the few', then what about the 'MANY' of us who are not protesting but have to pay for the cost of all the damage and police man hours increasingly incurred by these protests of the 'FEW'?

Hadn't you heard, protests are being privatised; at least in London.

arista
06-11-2015, 05:59 PM
Six police horses injured. What a bunch of heroes...


Yes Stinking Punks


Also a Woman Student was Punched in her Gut
trying to protect the Horses
(ref ITV1 : London News Live)

arista
06-11-2015, 06:04 PM
One Un- Masked Chap
said we want a New Democracy.

Fine set up a FECKING Proper Political Party.

arista
06-11-2015, 06:07 PM
Does anyone on here agree with this Bunch of Protesters and Criminal Punks?

That Woman Student was great
trying to protect Police Horses
but the Punks Bunched her in her gut
so she went down

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 06:24 PM
No is isn't a misnomer... the majority are peaceful and some were not, I have mentioned that.
Whether student protest or anti austerity they have much public support, it's impossible to say if those that think as you do are in the majority or not.

Given the population of this country and the number attending this 'peaceful protest', I would wager that more think as I do than not, but I'm still waiting for you to list all those 'Peaceful Protests' you claimed, because as far as I am concerned they all end up this way.

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 06:25 PM
Does anyone on here agree with this Bunch of Protesters and Criminal Punks?

That Woman Student was great
trying to protect Police Horses
but the Punks Bunched her in her gut
so she went down

Is the Pope Jewish? You haven't lost the abiity to read posts have you Arista?

arista
07-11-2015, 01:47 AM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/11/6/428610/default/v1/the-sun-front-page-07.11.15-1-442x589.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/06/09/2E2A5DA600000578-0-image-a-2_1446802217579.jpg

lostalex
07-11-2015, 01:58 AM
can we please stop referring to grown adults as "students"? it infantilizes them. If they are over 17 then they are adults. period.

Kizzy
07-11-2015, 12:17 PM
Given the population of this country and the number attending this 'peaceful protest', I would wager that more think as I do than not, but I'm still waiting for you to list all those 'Peaceful Protests' you claimed, because as far as I am concerned they all end up this way.

I think your wrong here, I think that the students have massive support especially from tutors.
I won't be making you any lists kirk, some protests may have incidents inflated due to the actions of some during the protest. It doesn't detract from the reason for, or the strength of feeling of the majority of those attending, who simply wish to show they are united in their opposition to the issue they are facing.

Jamie89
07-11-2015, 12:19 PM
can we please stop referring to grown adults as "students"? it infantilizes them. If they are over 17 then they are adults. period.

:laugh: But what if they are over 17 and students lol? My mum went back to school in her late 30's and then through uni and masters. (She was getting student discount in her 40's lol). She wasn't infantilized tho, she was empowered by it and said it made her more confident in life, having not been educated before.