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kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 04:25 PM
Do you believe that 'Science' has all the answers and that the 'Paranormal' is a total load of bunkum? Or do you believe in some aspects of the paranormal?

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2015, 04:27 PM
Believing in them and them being real are 2 things entirely


lets have people say why they believe and analyse the evidence..

Liam-
05-11-2015, 04:32 PM
I believe in ghosts, I'm a big fan of paranormal stuff even though it tends to freak me out :laugh:

Livia
05-11-2015, 04:36 PM
I kind of believe in both science and what is considered "the paranormal". In the scheme of things, it's not that long ago since all science was magic. I think as we go on we'll understand more and it'll be come less paranormal and more normal.

JoshBB
05-11-2015, 04:38 PM
I tend not to believe in things that are 'paranormal' and am more of a listen-to-science kind of person, of course that doesn't mean they don't exist. I just haven't yet come across evidence compelling enough for me to say that supernatural things are real.

People do claim to have experiences with things like this though, so I'm not going to go and call them liars. This is just from my own experience - which with the paranormal, is nothing.

kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 04:39 PM
I believe in ghosts, I'm a big fan of paranormal stuff even though it tends to freak me out :laugh:

Did you watch the Most Haunted 2 part Halloween Special from my ex-friend's old house on East Drive Pontefract Liam - the one haunted by a vicious poltergeist.

kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 04:41 PM
I kind of believe in both science and what is considered "the paranormal". In the scheme of things, it's not that long ago since all science was magic. I think as we go on we'll understand more and it'll be come less paranormal and more normal.

Ah Liv, this is what I keep trying to get through -- that today's scientific 'absolute' is tomorrow's 'disproven theory' as our knowledge expands, and yes, it is not so long ago that all science was regarded as 'magic'.

Kizzy
05-11-2015, 04:43 PM
I believe in an afterlife and no I don't have proof blah blah....

Liam-
05-11-2015, 04:43 PM
Did you watch the Most Haunted 2 part Halloween Special from my ex-friend's old house on East Drive Pontefract Liam - the one haunted by a vicious poltergeist.

I did and I watched the live episode they did there as well, I loved it, I really want to go there :flutter:

JoshBB
05-11-2015, 04:45 PM
Ah Liv, this is what I keep trying to get through -- that today's scientific 'absolute' is tomorrow's 'disproven theory' as our knowledge expands, and yes, it is not so long ago that all science was regarded as 'magic'.

Good point. Science is something that evolves with time, and it's not as solid and 'definite truth' as people make it out to be.

kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 04:57 PM
I tend not to believe in things that are 'paranormal' and am more of a listen-to-science kind of person, of course that doesn't mean they don't exist. I just haven't yet come across evidence compelling enough for me to say that supernatural things are real.

People do claim to have experiences with things like this though, so I'm not going to go and call them liars. This is just from my own experience - which with the paranormal, is nothing.

Have you got the 'Lifetime HD' channel on Sky Josh? If so, you should watch 'Ghost Inside My Child' a serious, very fascinating series detailing well documented examples of reincarnation.

In one episode, a small child draws Hitler and talks about "Incoming" missiles then starts speaking and understanding German. In another, a young child maintains that his mom is not his real mom, that he lived in Hollywood before and it transpires that he was a screenwriter - probably the one who scripted 'Gone With The Wind'.

It is fascinating and cannot readily be dismissed as 'crackpot' or 'hokum'.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1373em_the-ghost-inside-my-child-s01e01_shortfilms

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2015, 04:59 PM
Kirk face it, it does not exist apart from in the high number channels on your tv

Dollface
05-11-2015, 05:00 PM
I believe

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2015, 05:01 PM
I believe


you can fly?

Redway
05-11-2015, 05:01 PM
No.

Dollface
05-11-2015, 05:03 PM
you can fly?

I can touch the sky

kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 05:04 PM
I did and I watched the live episode they did there as well, I loved it, I really want to go there :flutter:

My now deceased gay friend used to live with the guy who lived as a early teen in that very house and there was a multi page story on it all in The Unexplained magazine, of which I had a copy but have since lost. The poltergeist attached itself to his little sister.

They recently made a film about it called 'When The Lights Go Out'.

My wife is bonkers on Most Haunted and all the paranormal so I am planning to drive over there but I want to spend hours there investigating for myself.

Wanna come? :laugh:

Kizzy
05-11-2015, 05:07 PM
My now deceased gay friend used to live with the guy who lived as a early teen in that very house and there was a multi page story on it all in The Unexplained magazine, of which I had a copy but have since lost. The poltergeist attached itself to his little sister.

They recently made a film about it called 'When The Lights Go Out'.

My wife is bonkers on Most Haunted and all the paranormal so I am planning to drive over there but I want to spend hours there investigating for myself.

Wanna come? :laugh:

I think I have some copies of the unexplained....

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2015, 05:11 PM
The normal is far more fascinating

Liam-
05-11-2015, 05:13 PM
My now deceased gay friend used to live with the guy who lived as a early teen in that very house and there was a multi page story on it all in The Unexplained magazine, of which I had a copy but have since lost. The poltergeist attached itself to his little sister.

They recently made a film about it called 'When The Lights Go Out'.

My wife is bonkers on Most Haunted and all the paranormal so I am planning to drive over there but I want to spend hours there investigating for myself.

Wanna come? :laugh:

I'd love to spend a few hours there, there's a few paranormal teams offering night investigations there, I'm incredibly tempted :love:

kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 05:22 PM
Kirk face it, it does not exist apart from in the high number channels on your tv

What about this LT - another paranormal phenomena which science cannot explain away?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/11307568/Barber-woke-from-coma-speaking-fluent-French-and-thinking-he-was-Matthew-McConaughey.html

Mokka
05-11-2015, 05:22 PM
Science only

sorry kirk

JoshBB
05-11-2015, 05:22 PM
Have you got the 'Lifetime HD' channel on Sky Josh? If so, you should watch 'Ghost Inside My Child' a serious, very fascinating series detailing well documented examples of reincarnation.

In one episode, a small child draws Hitler and talks about "Incoming" missiles then starts speaking and understanding German. In another, a young child maintains that his mom is not his real mom, that he lived in Hollywood before and it transpires that he was a screenwriter - probably the one who scripted 'Gone With The Wind'.

It is fascinating and cannot readily be dismissed as 'crackpot' or 'hokum'.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1373em_the-ghost-inside-my-child-s01e01_shortfilms

I do find anything super/paranormal very fascinating. If I get the chance, I might watch this later.

kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 05:23 PM
I do find anything super/paranormal very fascinating. If I get the chance, I might watch this later.

Do, and get back to me with your thoughts.

kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 05:29 PM
Science only

sorry kirk

Bullshot Mokka - How do you explain the unbreakable bond of love and passion between us two remote and non physically connected young :hehe:people?

Land and sea may lie between us but they will never seperate us. :laugh:

Ammi
05-11-2015, 05:40 PM
...hmmm, what I believe is that there is much more that we don't know, than those things that we do know..so nothing really should be dismissed as a possibility...

kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 05:57 PM
...hmmm, what I believe is that there is much more that we don't know, than those things that we do know..so nothing really should be dismissed as a possibility...

It is mindsets such as yours which will ultimately advance Homo Sapiens beyond the still primitive stage we are in now Ammi - mindsets like yours, not mine, not LT's, but yours.

Mokka
05-11-2015, 05:59 PM
Bullshot Mokka - How do you explain the unbreakable bond of love and passion between us two remote and non physically connected young :hehe:people?

Land and sea may lie between us but they will never seperate us. :laugh:

You had me until I read "young people".. then the science and facts disproved your theory :laugh:

kirklancaster
05-11-2015, 06:02 PM
You had me until I read "young people".. then the science and facts disproved your theory :laugh:

:laugh:

Jamie89
05-11-2015, 09:36 PM
I wouldn't say I actively believe in the paranormal, but I'm definitely open minded to it. In that I'm aware that there could be forces outside of our understanding. We like to think we know everything because we are intelligent, but we're only intelligent when we compare ourselves to the other creatures on this planet that we can see and we are aware of. Maybe there is more than the physical life that we can see. Who knows? None of us do. And we're only intelligent based on the definition of intelligence that we're capable of understanding. I'm confusing myself. Basically, I'm very much a science person outwardly because science is the thing that we're capable of understanding based on our limitations as a species. But could there be other stuff going on that we have absolutely no comprehension of? Sure, why not

Johnnyuk123
05-11-2015, 10:46 PM
When Dorothy in the Wizard Of Oz clicked her ruby slippers to get home now that WAS real! :joker::joker::joker:
http://www.judygarlandsrubyslippers.com/pictures/rare-letter-from-kent-warner-the-founder-of-the-ruby-slippers.jpg

smudgie
05-11-2015, 11:29 PM
Yes, I believe that science just hasn't caught up with it all yet.
My mothers mother was a medium (as well as a prostitute) and my mother could smell death, weird thing to explain but I have experienced if myself only a couple of times in my life.
I have felt a presence in rooms over the years, saw my late mother once in my bedroom, just an outline in lights but I knew it was her.
When our daughter was young she had a mist hovering over her bed when she slept, this went on for years, only our son was spooked by it, it moved around the house at times as well, I have not been able to see the top of the stairs from the bottom stair as it was so thick of mist.
Hubby has come in from night shift and thought a kettle had been left boiling with all the steam/mist in the kitchen.
There are some very good mediums out there but unfortunately there are So many more fraudsters so I can understand why people don't believe any of it.:shrug:

Rob!
05-11-2015, 11:31 PM
Well I've seen a ghost so yes.

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 03:53 AM
Well I've seen a ghost so yes.

Can you tell us about it Rob?

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 04:04 AM
Yes, I believe that science just hasn't caught up with it all yet.
My mothers mother was a medium (as well as a prostitute) and my mother could smell death, weird thing to explain but I have experienced if myself only a couple of times in my life.
I have felt a presence in rooms over the years, saw my late mother once in my bedroom, just an outline in lights but I knew it was her.
When our daughter was young she had a mist hovering over her bed when she slept, this went on for years, only our son was spooked by it, it moved around the house at times as well, I have not been able to see the top of the stairs from the bottom stair as it was so thick of mist.
Hubby has come in from night shift and thought a kettle had been left boiling with all the steam/mist in the kitchen.
There are some very good mediums out there but unfortunately there are So many more fraudsters so I can understand why people don't believe any of it.:shrug:

Fraudsters ARE the biggest stumbling block to genuine research Smudgie - that's a fact.

Not only do fraudsters cause people to think that ALL the paranormal is bogus, it gives the 'scientific' scoffers an escape route when they are faced with genuine phenomena which is well documented and witnessed, but which defies all scientific explanation.

There are hundreds of Reincarnation cases involving children, and there are even cases of people who suffer accidents waking up from a coma fluently speaking a completely foreign language instead of their own.

rubymoo
06-11-2015, 07:51 AM
I can only go by my experiences and my truth, my truth is that i have certainly experienced spiritual activity.

I know it sounds daft but when we die, we go to the stars, we have no bodies, we are energy up in space, it's here we realise the beauty of our lives, the learning we have gone through, we realise that we are everything, the trees, the plants, the air, we are everything, and even though you are up in space, in the universe, you won't be scared, because the love you feel is so immense, so powerful, it's the most powerful feeling you will ever feel, if you take your love that you feel for your children/pets/partner and times that by a million, thats the amount of love you feel, and it's then that you realise, life is about love.

I know some will think i'm crazy, but i can only go by my experience and my truth and this is my truth:spin:

jennyjuniper
06-11-2015, 08:12 AM
My now deceased gay friend used to live with the guy who lived as a early teen in that very house and there was a multi page story on it all in The Unexplained magazine, of which I had a copy but have since lost. The poltergeist attached itself to his little sister.

They recently made a film about it called 'When The Lights Go Out'.

My wife is bonkers on Most Haunted and all the paranormal so I am planning to drive over there but I want to spend hours there investigating for myself.

Wanna come? :laugh:

Hi Kirk, I really wish I could come with you. I believe there is much more out there than we now understand (but maybe one day will)
What annoys me about some of those programmes like most haunted, is when they ask for something to happen and when it does they run away screaming!!:shrug:

Amy Jade
06-11-2015, 08:26 AM
I'm open to believing but haven't witnessed anything personally apart from camping in the ruins of a castle in Weper Woods, we heard creepy noises but it was most likely animals

Niamh.
06-11-2015, 10:03 AM
I wouldn't say I believe in any aspect of the paranormal no but I'm open to something being proved to me

Josy
06-11-2015, 10:52 AM
I believe in residual energies

Niamh.
06-11-2015, 10:54 AM
I believe in residual energies

Like an echo of something that used to be there kind of?

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 11:05 AM
Hi Kirk, I really wish I could come with you. I believe there is much more out there than we now understand (but maybe one day will)
What annoys me about some of those programmes like most haunted, is when they ask for something to happen and when it does they run away screaming!!:shrug:

Hi Jenny.

I am planning on a trip to this house but also visiting some other 'haunted' place in Yorkshire as well, on the same day - make a day of it, if you know what I mean. It will be next year now which gives me time to research suitable places, and I will gladly meet up with you Jenny if you want to come along.

Unfortunately, as my wife is also a 'paranormal' freak, she will be with me so I will not be able to do any courting with you :hehe:

kirklancaster
06-11-2015, 11:06 AM
I believe in residual energies

I do too - very strongly.

Kazanne
06-11-2015, 11:11 AM
you can fly?

Yes,but it makes my arms ache:hehe:

Cherie
06-11-2015, 11:32 AM
Yes,but it makes my arms ache:hehe:

:hehe: