'Jihadi John' allegedly killed in a US air strike

[Gusto Brunt]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/jihadi-john-live-updates-isis-6823006

Good news, but I wish he had suffered more.

He died too quick for my liking.

[Cherie]

Happy he is no longer walking the earth

[Gusto Brunt]

Happy he is no longer walking the earth

Fingers crossed.

[kirklancaster]

Great news Gusto. Christmas has come early if this demon has been vaporised. I am praying they have really snuffed out this worthless murdering cockroach.

Now perhaps the press will start referring to him as 'Jihadi Gone'.

[Gusto Brunt]

Well said, Kirk.

[arista]

Yes I prefer Facts
was he hit or not?

Is he Dead or Not?


Very Hard to know from a Drone attack

[joeysteele]

If true, no loss and good riddance.

[Nedusa]

If true then that's one less piece of murdering scum to worry about, would however preferred to see some p.o.d. ( proof of death) maybe his head now that would be poetic justice.

[Kazanne]

They are not 100% sure yet,lets see proof.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jihadi-john-targeted-in-us-air-strike/ar-BBmWMAa?li=AAaeUIW&ocid=FUJITSUDHP

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cameron should confirm it this afternoon, he is not speaking to say he is not dead that is for sure

[kirklancaster]

If true then that's one less piece of murdering scum to worry about, would however preferred to see some p.o.d. ( proof of death) maybe his head now that would be poetic justice.

In the immortal words of the Dave Clark Five:

"He's in pieces, bits and pieces"

to which Dave also has the response:

"And I'm feelling Glad All Over". :laugh:

[Gusto Brunt]

In the immortal words of the Dave Clark Five:

"He's in pieces, bits and pieces"

to which Dave also has the response:

"And I'm feelling Glad All Over". :laugh:

In those drone attacks humans are literally reduced to dust. It's like cremation without a funeral.:joker:

[Niamh.]

Hopefully it's true. Having a "Notorious" face like his being taken down is always a good message to send I think

[Livia]

So... hopefully, just about now, he's entering paradise to find 72 Virginians waiting for him.

[Niamh.]

So... hopefully, just about now, he's entering paradise to find 72 Virginians waiting for him.

lol

[joeysteele]

In the immortal words of the Dave Clark Five:

"He's in pieces, bits and pieces"

to which Dave also has the response:

"And I'm feelling Glad All Over". :laugh:

:joker: 3 times now this week you have made me laugh.:joker:
Two great songs there,when my family has 60s parties, I love dancing to those 2 songs.

[arista]

The PM is Live On all media
thanking USA
he said this was a Joint Operation
And he hopes to get confirmation

[Amy Jade]

I hope he suffered terribly before death, I'd hate to think he died instantly and felt no pain

[kirklancaster]

:joker: 3 times now this week you have made me laugh.:joker:
Two great songs there,when my family has 60s parties, I love dancing to those 2 songs.

:laugh: Yeah Joey, and the biggest laugh is; that Jihadi Gone started it all by taunting the allies with another Dave Clark hit - "Catch Us If You Can" :joker:

[Mitchell]

Love that Corbyn is using this to try and get one over Cameron, yeah try and capture him and take him to trial, what the **** is he smoking? I'm not a Corbyn hater, but he sounds incredibly stupid.

[Livia]

I think he gave up his right to a trial the minute he cut off someone's head and posted the video. He's the best kind of terrorist: a dead one.

[Calderyon]

Good riddance. Have fun in hell, John.

Rest in Agony.

[Nedusa]

Good riddance. Have fun in hell, John.

Rest in Agony.

To quote from the words of Smokey Robinson & the miracles , " I second that emotion"...😀

[kirklancaster]

To quote from the words of Smokey Robinson & the miracles , " I second that emotion"...😀

:laugh::laugh:

[kirklancaster]

I think he gave up his right to a trial the minute he cut off someone's head and posted the video. He's the best kind of terrorist: a dead one.

Sooooo true Liv. I can't wait while all terrorists join him.

[Ninastar]

I'd rather he died the same way his victims, but either way, hey ho, he is dead. (hopefully anyway)

[kirklancaster]

Love that Corbyn is using this to try and get one over Cameron, yeah try and capture him and take him to trial, what the **** is he smoking? I'm not a Corbyn hater, but he sounds incredibly stupid.

:joker::joker: Would it have gone something like this Mitchell? :


JEREMY FINDS JIHADI JOHN'S HIDING PLACE

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT7a1X09ELRZSpfcmZYFWy_iWPw5Fj8I OJ47dZxNbGToii8Q0A9


"Aaah.... The evidence is here, but where is John? I want to arrest him."

[arista]

They are not 100% sure yet,lets see proof.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jihadi-john-targeted-in-us-air-strike/ar-BBmWMAa?li=AAaeUIW&ocid=FUJITSUDHP


No until Someone finds out he was direct under that Attack
it is no good at 99%


I must have 100% Facts.


Or USA will look Stupid if he turns up again.

[hijaxers]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/jihadi-john-live-updates-isis-6823006

Good news, but I wish he had suffered more.

He died too quick for my liking.

Do we believe it ?

[hijaxers]

In those drone attacks humans are literally reduced to dust. It's like cremation without a funeral.:joker:

Save scattering the ashes then

[kirklancaster]

Save scattering the ashes then

:laugh::laugh: You're on form tonight Hijax

[arista]

Do we believe it ?


USA Army
say it will take some time
to Confirm 100%
he was killed.



Ref: FoxNewsHD, BBCNewsHD and SkyNewsHD

[JoshBB]

I, like corbyn, think he should have been trialled so we can really get to the bottom of these horrific crimes, and figure out how guilty he really was - and see if he will share anything that might help us save other lives. But honestly I'm still glad he's dead, this is just a preference really.

[Cherie]

Do we believe it ?

If he is not dead expect a beheading video real soon

[waterhog]

I am going to do a poem on this -:conf:

[kirklancaster]

If he is not dead expect a beheading video real soon

Do you know Cherie this is a good point. This is EXACTLY what the bastards will do to show the world that he is still alive. But even if he is dead - and I pray he is - then I bet they are, as we write, frantically searching their ranks for another demon who is the same build and has the same evil eyes, so he can be masked up pretending to be Jihadi John as he beheads innocents in a propaganda video.

I wish ALL of the evil bastards were atomised.

[Cherie]

Do you know Cherie this is a good point. This is EXACTLY what the bastards will do to show the world that he is still alive. But even if he is dead - and I pray he is - then I bet they are, as we write, frantically searching their ranks for another demon who is the same build and has the same evil eyes, so he can be masked up pretending to be Jihadi John as he beheads innocents in a propaganda video.

I wish ALL of the evil bastards were atomised.

This is a possibility ISIS won't want to admit he is dead

[Mitchell]

I, like corbyn, think he should have been trialled so we can really get to the bottom of these horrific crimes, and figure out how guilty he really was - and see if he will share anything that might help us save other lives. But honestly I'm still glad he's dead, this is just a preference really.

So they were expected to hunt him down, get troops on the grounds to capture him, therefore putting troops in severe danger, arrest one of the big terrorism leaders without ISIS finding out and then spend hundreds of thousands trialling him, which would only lead in ISIS launching more attacks, good that the twats gone.

[Denver]

I, like corbyn, think he should have been trialled so we can really get to the bottom of these horrific crimes, and figure out how guilty he really was - and see if he will share anything that might help us save other lives. But honestly I'm still glad he's dead, this is just a preference really.

It's all good saying that but they had no chance of catching him alive.

He doesn't do the fighting and his victims are brought to him so we would have to go through the whole organisation to find the leader which is pointless.

[kirklancaster]

So they were expected to hunt him down, get troops on the grounds to capture him, therefore putting troops in severe danger, arrest one of the big terrorism leaders without ISIS finding out and then spend hundreds of thousands trialling him, which would only lead in ISIS launching more attacks, good that the twats gone.

Neither Corbyn nor his followers live in the REAL world.

[kirklancaster]

It's all good saying that but they had no chance of catching him alive.

He doesn't do the fighting and his victims are brought to him so we would have to go through the whole organisation to find the leader which is pointless.

You're right Adam.

WHY does a ******* cockroach like him NEED or DESERVE a ******* trial?

Why would we risk ONE life in trying to track him down to arrest him and bring him before a jury?

His mate Corbyn would like it if he could have sat the filthy murdering bastard down on the terrace at Westminster to 'talk to him' and 'reason with him' while eating cucumber sandwiches and sipping Earl Grey from china cups.

"How many demented politicians does it take to change a light bulb?"
"Three - one to change it, one to ask it if it really wants to be changed, and Corbyn to speak to the press to protest that the light bulb should not be forced to be changed as there's nothing wrong with it. Light bulbs have rights too you know"

[Livia]

I, like corbyn, think he should have been trialled so we can really get to the bottom of these horrific crimes, and figure out how guilty he really was - and see if he will share anything that might help us save other lives. But honestly I'm still glad he's dead, this is just a preference really.

He was a terrorist and he just didn't deserve to be treated like a human being. I don't need to get to the bottom of what was on his mind. Kill them all, for me... there is no other way. They won't negotiate, they despise us and we have nothing they want. They won't stop till we wipe their kind off the face of the earth... or they do the same to us.

[Johnnyuk123]

So... hopefully, just about now, he's entering paradise to find 72 Virginians waiting for him.

Yeah but no ones told him there male. :joker::joker::joker:

[waterhog]

bye bye lad E - you failed as a jihadi 14.11.15



you are not blessed

and have to cover facially

in the uk you clearly expressed

it was your downfall actually.

you obviously were missing

i don't no what link

for your poor family i am kissing

because you have brought them to the brink.

you turned your back on freedom

this was not a nice pad

so deliberately targeting the united kingdom

john you was on the side of jihad.

yes i criticize our prime minister

i to think he has blood on his hand

but i would not dream of something so sinister

as david targets the low paid and leaves his footprint in the sand.

i hope the news is correct

and we get a confirmation trace

i will be surprised if this has a "Paris" connect

because "john" is already on the list to replace.

stronger together is no error

we will come out sweet

never will we back down to terror

what ever it takes we will defeat.

[Mitchell]

Neither Corbyn nor his followers live in the REAL world.

I wouldn't generalise the fans, but I'm starting to wonder if Corbyn has any clue

[Livia]

I wouldn't generalise the fans, but I'm starting to wonder if Corbyn has any clue

Corbyn, who claims to be a man of peace, is a supporter of all kinds of terrorist organisations. I wouldn't trust him further than I could chuck a piano.

[kirklancaster]

The atrocities which have just happened in Paris are not a victory for the evil terrorists - they are a victory for every deluded, self-blind, ideological, liberal bleeding heart who for decades now have lambasted our lone voices crying in the wilderness when we warned of all this, and ridiculed our messages of truth as xenophobic and racist.

These 'bleeding hearts' have all been very successful. They have intimidated and bullied and frightened the majority - who DO agree with US - into silence, with their sermons on 'Political Correctness' because that majority dare not speak the truth for fear of being labelled xenophobic or racist.

Corbyn's election has figurehead of a major political party is the result of those decades of subversiveness just as the bombings and massacres across the 'Free' world are.

Did any of these terrorist bastards drop into Paris by parachute from ISIS Military Jets?

No, of course not.

The French LET them in. Welcomed them. Housed them, gave them benefits, educations, jobs.

Just like us.

[Kizzy]

What is wrong with talking for peace?
What has warring and bombing got... reactions like this.

[Livia]

What's the point of talking to people who want nothing from you and will give nothing in return? Hamas, for instance, doesn't negotiate,... they will never reach a peaceful agreement through discussion, doesn't stop Corbyn blowing smoke up their arse.

[Nedusa]

Do you know Cherie this is a good point. This is EXACTLY what the bastards will do to show the world that he is still alive. But even if he is dead - and I pray he is - then I bet they are, as we write, frantically searching their ranks for another demon who is the same build and has the same evil eyes, so he can be masked up pretending to be Jihadi John as he beheads innocents in a propaganda video.

I wish ALL of the evil bastards were atomised.

Good point Kirk, but this could be a double edged sword for ISIS (if you pardon the pun) for anyone posing as JJ would attract the same concentrated effort by the West to send him a little visit from a drone....

[Nedusa]

The atrocities which have just happened in Paris are not a victory for the evil terrorists - they are a victory for every deluded, self-blind, ideological, liberal bleeding heart who for decades now have lambasted our lone voices crying in the wilderness when we warned of all this, and ridiculed our messages of truth as xenophobic and racist.

These 'bleeding hearts' have all been very successful. They have intimidated and bullied and frightened the majority - who DO agree with US - into silence, with their sermons on 'Political Correctness' because that majority dare not speak the truth for fear of being labelled xenophobic or racist.

Corbyn's election has figurehead of a major political party is the result of those decades of subversiveness just as the bombings and massacres across the 'Free' world are.


Did any of these terrorist bastards drop into Paris by parachute from ISIS Military Jets?

No, of course not.

The French LET them in. Welcomed them. Housed them, gave them benefits, educations, jobs.

Just like us.


:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Kizzy]

The violence is stepping up due to the airstrikes, there has to be some correlation. Peace talks are not 'blowing smoke'

[Northern Monkey]

Good news!I hope he burned slowly.
This is why US drone strikes are many times more accurate than the crazy Russians in their out of date jets dropping their dumbfire bombs on anyone who opposes Assad including the Free Syrian Army.I've seen footage of Russian bombs missing their targets in Syria.

As for Corbyn,If he actually believes troops should have gone in and captured this maniac and brought back it just proves at the very minimum what a tactically inept dangerous bastard he really is.
He would rather multiple US troops possibly died than an evil head chopping terrorist be taken out

OR

He has absolutely no clue what he is doing and is dangerously negligent.

Whichever it is let us hope this cretin never sees real power where he has to make decisions which affect the country and lives of the people in it.

[waterhog]

we should arrange a tea party and all have a cup of tea to world peace and invite all - sad this can not happen and this is why it is a fight we must win.

our freedom is not up for sale.

[Nedusa]

The violence is stepping up due to the airstrikes, there has to be some correlation. Peace talks are not 'blowing smoke'

But you cannot stop an elephant with a peashooter, these creatures only understand violence it's what they are, it's what they do, it's all they understand. Peace talks....excuse me... Peace talks, more like surrender talks

So in Mr Corben's strange world we make peace with ISIS let them form a state or caliphate and then recognise them internationally.

Next we give their struggling state as much money as they need in loans and aid and then they can go onto the international arms markets and buy even more powerful weapons of destruction, or on the black market maybe some nerve gas for example either way lots of nasty weapons with which to turn back onto the west.

Bloody hell...!!!

If it walks like a cockroach , talks like a cockroach then it probably is a cockroach , hard to eradicate but VERY , VERY necessary.

[Kizzy]

Yes well for all your expressive language when lines of communication were open there was the potential to find a peaceful solution.
As the bombings have begun and continue it's hard to say where it will end.

[Northern Monkey]

Yes well for all your expressive language when lines of communication were open there was the potential to find a peaceful solution.
As the bombings have begun and continue it's hard to say where it will end.

How can you possibly find a peaceful solution with people who's aim is to either convert you to a war mongering religion or kill you?
We have nothing they want.They want to turn the world into an Islamic caliphate.
What can you possibly say to them?Peace is the last thing on their mind.

We can either lay down and play dead while they kill us or we can fight back in the only language they understand and do it better than them.

[Kizzy]

That may be an emerging realisation, is talking not the first line of defence, why lambaste those who in the past attempted to forge a peaceful solution?

[kirklancaster]

The violence is stepping up due to the airstrikes, there has to be some correlation. Peace talks are not 'blowing smoke'

Mohammed cannot attend any peace talks at the moment, he's busy in some shaded secluded corner of a Western City:

"I tell you Ahmed, we have a duty to slaughter these infidels. Allah decrees it"

"I know this brother.... But I am afraid... I am afraid that if we slaughter one of theirs, they will retaliate."

"And if they do, and kill one of ours, we will slaughter twenty... A hundred of theirs."

"But where will it end my brother? If we bomb their cities, their innocents...Will not they then bomb our lands? What of my own family? My mother and Father? I fear for them"

"You are weak Ahmed. It is dangerous to be weak. Weakness is a Western disease. It infects only pigs. You are a soldier of Allah my brother and must be strong. We Soldiers of Allah must be strong in our bodies, our hearts and our minds. We must have faith in almighty Allah. You should be ashamed."

"I am sorry for my weakness Mohammed. May almighty Allah forgive me... And you my brother. May you forgive me."

"That is alright Ahmed, you are but 13 years old. You can be forgiven..... Now, strap on your bomb belt and let us not waste one moment more. There is a crowded cafe around the corner where glory awaits you.... Hurry my brother."

[Livia]

Because trying to negotiate with groups who do not negotiate is a waste of time.

[Kizzy]

Was Corbyn not attacked for associating with terrorist groups, is that not negotiating?

[Northern Monkey]

That may be an emerging realisation, is talking not the first line of defence, why lambaste those who in the past attempted to forge a peaceful solution?

Because by talking to these 'people' you are legitimising their actions as a valid means to an end.
You send the message that terrorism pays.

[Livia]

Was Corbyn not attacked for associating with terrorist groups, is that not negotiating?

What was it that he negotiated, exactly?

Nothing.

They use his support for publicity. British politician backs their cause... Negotiating with groups who are willing to negotiate is a good thing. Hamas - and others Corbyn has associated himself with - do not negotiate and want nothing from us. Pointless... and dangerous.

[Livia]

Because by talking to these 'people' you are legitimising their actions as a valid means to an end.
You send the message that terrorism pays.

Get out of my head, Monkey.

[arista]

Was Corbyn not attacked for associating with terrorist groups, is that not negotiating?


Yes but its not liked

[Northern Monkey]

This is also the reason why nothing can be done between Israel and Palestine whilst Hezbollah have any influence in Palestine.You can't negotiate with terrorists.

[Kizzy]

Because by talking to these 'people' you are legitimising their actions as a valid means to an end.
You send the message that terrorism pays.

Apart from talking how do you resolve issues.... blow each others brains out?

[Denver]

My views on this won't be shared but I think the death penalty should be brought back for anyone found guilty of being a terrorist.

[Livia]

Apart from talking how do you resolve issues.... blow each others brains out?

Surely that's a question for the terrorists and not for whose who would be willing to negotiate if there was any point.

[kirklancaster]

Was Corbyn not attacked for associating with terrorist groups, is that not negotiating?

Yeah - you're right. Lord Boothby 'associated' with Ronny Kray because he was trying to negotiate him out of a life of crime. And there was me thinking it was because he admired him and had an affinity with him because he was secretly homosexual too and could provide him with rent boys.

Whatever was I thinking?

[Northern Monkey]

"Apart from talking how do you resolve issues.... blow each others brains out?"

What else could possibly be done against ISIS?

Even if we did/could talk to them,What exactly do you think we would have to agree to in order to please them?
A European Islamic caliphate dictated by ISIS commanders?
ISIS flags over the houses of parliament?
All women must be veiled in public and subservient to their male leaders?
All homosexuals stoned to death at Wembley stadium?
Shariah law accross the west?

[Kizzy]

Yeah - you're right. Lord Boothby 'associated' with Ronny Kray because he was trying to negotiate him out of a life of crime. And there was me thinking it was because he admired him and had an affinity with him because he was secretly homosexual too and could provide him with rent boys.

Whatever was I thinking?

I don't know what you're thinking, it has nothing to do with my point clearly.

[kirklancaster]

Apart from talking how do you resolve issues.... blow each others brains out?

:facepalm: This thread is descending into a Monty Python script.

Only PROBLEMS can be resolved by talking.

These terrorists have only one problem - How to rid the world of US -- in other words; anyone who does not believe what they believe.

How do you resolve that?

Sit down with them talk, then walk away to a respectable distance and behead yourself or blow yourself up?

I see posters coming soon from the deluded bleeding hearts:

"Support your favourite terrorists - give yourself a good old talking to then chop your own head off. Show them we care."

[kirklancaster]

I don't know what you're thinking, it has nothing to do with my point clearly.

It has EVERYTHING to do with your point actually.

Boothby - a woeful excuse for a politician - used his political position to associate with the type of people he REALLY admired, people who were like the REAL him.

Corbyn - a woeful excuse for a politician - used his political position to associate with the type of people he REALLY admired, people who were like the REAL him. Anti-Democratic, Anti-Semitic, Anti-Western Terrorists.

[Kizzy]

"Apart from talking how do you resolve issues.... blow each others brains out?"

What else could possibly be done against ISIS?

Even if we did/could talk to them,What exactly do you think we would have to agree to in order to please them?
A European Islamic caliphate dictated by ISIS commanders?
ISIS flags over the houses of parliament?
All women must be veiled in public and subservient to their male leaders?
All homosexuals stoned to death at Wembley stadium?
Shariah law accross the west?

Are you asking me a question or just involving me in your hypothetical?
There are two separate issues here, on one hand diplomats like Corbyn are criticised for attempting to forge some dialogue with certain groups, and on the other the rise of ISIS.
The two are totally independent of one another.

[Kizzy]

It has EVERYTHING to do with your point actually.

Boothby - a woeful excuse for a politician - used his political position to associate with the type of people he REALLY admired, people who were like the REAL him.

Corbyn - a woeful excuse for a politician - used his political position to associate with the type of people he REALLY admired, people who were like the REAL him. Anti-Democratic, Anti-Semitic, Anti-Western Terrorists.

I'm sorry I really would rather you stick to the topic, involving analogy has never really worked for me.

[Nedusa]

Mohammed cannot attend any peace talks at the moment, he's busy in some shaded secluded corner of a Western City:

"I tell you Ahmed, we have a duty to slaughter these infidels. Allah decrees it"

"I know this brother.... But I am afraid... I am afraid that if we slaughter one of theirs, they will retaliate."

"And if they do, and kill one of ours, we will slaughter twenty... A hundred of theirs."

"But where will it end my brother? If we bomb their cities, their innocents...Will not they then bomb our lands? What of my own family? My mother and Father? I fear for them"

"You are weak Ahmed. It is dangerous to be weak. Weakness is a Western disease. It infects only pigs. You are a soldier of Allah my brother and must be strong. We Soldiers of Allah must be strong in our bodies, our hearts and our minds. We must have faith in almighty Allah. You should be ashamed."

"I am sorry for my weakness Mohammed. May almighty Allah forgive me... And you my brother. May you forgive me."

"That is alright Ahmed, you are but 13 years old. You can be forgiven..... Now, strap on your bomb belt and let us not waste one moment more. There is a crowded cafe around the corner where glory awaits you.... Hurry my brother."

Excellent post Kirk, if you want to learn about the real history of islam then try looking at the you tube clip as described below

Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner"..

This describes in some detail the movements of Islam from 9th to 19th century . Have a look and then decide if you think this is a "peaceful" religion..

[Northern Monkey]

Are you asking me a question or just involving me in your hypothetical?
There are two separate issues here, on one hand diplomats like Corbyn are criticised for attempting to forge some dialogue with certain groups, and on the other the rise of ISIS.
The two are totally independent of one another.

They are'nt seperate issues?Corbyn would more than likely love to sit down with ISIS and have a good old chin wagg.Unfortunately by doing so he would
A) Get nowhere
And
B) Show the world that terrorism gets you a platform to air your warped views

The only course of action against these terrorists is to destroy them or to weaken them into submission.However long it takes.It is a war that they started and they must face the consequences.

[Kizzy]

They are'nt seperate issues?Corbyn would more than likely love to sit down with ISIS and have a good old chin wagg.Unfortunately by doing so he would
A) Get nowhere
And
B) Show the world that terrorism gets you a platform to air your warped views

The only course of action against these terrorists is to destroy them or to weaken them into submission.However long it takes.It is a war that they started and they must face the consequences.

They are separate as Corbyn hasn't attempted to talk with ISIS either....

[Northern Monkey]

They are separate as Corbyn hasn't attempted to talk with ISIS either....I never said he did.
He would if he got the chance though........

And he would fail and he would be legitimising their actions.

[Kizzy]

I never said he did.
He would if he got the chance though........

And he would fail and he would be legitimising their actions.

And I never suggested you did, the thread has diverged into two however the ISIS threat and the unrelated discussions had by Mr Corbyn with other bodies. That's some supposition there NM.

[Kizzy]

:facepalm: This thread is descending into a Monty Python script.

Only PROBLEMS can be resolved by talking.

These terrorists have only one problem - How to rid the world of US -- in other words; anyone who does not believe what they believe.

How do you resolve that?

Sit down with them talk, then walk away to a respectable distance and behead yourself or blow yourself up?

I see posters coming soon from the deluded bleeding hearts:

"Support your favourite terrorists - give yourself a good old talking to then chop your own head off. Show them we care."

Hmmm that sounds familiar where have I heard that before?

[Kazanne]

The atrocities which have just happened in Paris are not a victory for the evil terrorists - they are a victory for every deluded, self-blind, ideological, liberal bleeding heart who for decades now have lambasted our lone voices crying in the wilderness when we warned of all this, and ridiculed our messages of truth as xenophobic and racist.

These 'bleeding hearts' have all been very successful. They have intimidated and bullied and frightened the majority - who DO agree with US - into silence, with their sermons on 'Political Correctness' because that majority dare not speak the truth for fear of being labelled xenophobic or racist.

Corbyn's election has figurehead of a major political party is the result of those decades of subversiveness just as the bombings and massacres across the 'Free' world are.

Did any of these terrorist bastards drop into Paris by parachute from ISIS Military Jets?

No, of course not.

The French LET them in. Welcomed them. Housed them, gave them benefits, educations, jobs.

Just like us.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Time for us to stop being so lily livered and kill these bastards

[Northern Monkey]

And I never suggested you did, the thread has diverged into two however the ISIS threat and the unrelated discussions had by Mr Corbyn with other bodies. That's some supposition there NM.

The suggestion that Corbyn thinks that Jihadi John should have been arrested rather than killed was not brought up by me first but was totally related to the thread title.You are talking about Corbyns terrorist sympathies.You raise a good point though.Corbyn would more than likely relish the chance of tea and Digestives with ISIS.

[Kizzy]

The suggestion that Corbyn thinks that Jihadi John should have been arrested rather than killed was not brought up by me first but was totally related to the thread title.You are talking about Corbyns terrorist sympathies.You raise a good point though.Corbyn would more than likely relish the chance of tea and Digestives with ISIS.

I didn't raise the point of Corbyn speaking with ISIS...you did.
What is wrong with suggesting he was arrested, could it have prevented possible revenge attacks? We have yet to see.
I am not talking about Corbyns terrorist sympathies at all I have expanded on the points raised relating to his past meetings in the spirit of peace and diplomacy ... again none of which were with ISIS.

[Northern Monkey]

I didn't raise the point of Corbyn speaking with ISIS...you did.
What is wrong with suggesting he was arrested, could it have prevented possible revenge attacks? We have yet to see.
I am not talking about Corbyns terrorist sympathies at all I have expanded on the points raised relating to his past meetings in the spirit of peace and diplomacy ... again none of which were with ISIS.Well what point were you raising and what exactly did it have to do with Jihadi John?I assumed you were talking about ISIS since that is what we're discussing here is'nt it?

[DemolitionRed]

Love that Corbyn is using this to try and get one over Cameron, yeah try and capture him and take him to trial, what the **** is he smoking? I'm not a Corbyn hater, but he sounds incredibly stupid.

Until you read this http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-was-right-about-jihadi-john-if-you-listened-to-his-victims-families-youd-know-that-a6733611.html because it seems the relatives of those who were murdered find no solace in giving Jihadi John the honourable killing – the sensational martyrdom - that he sought from the beginning.

[Kizzy]

Well what point were you raising and what exactly did it have to do with Jihadi John?I assumed you were talking about ISIS since that is what we're discussing here is'nt it?

I am raising the issue that Corbyn and Corbyn supporters increasingly seem to be accused of sympathising with ISIS.
What purpose did killing him serve? A captive terrorist is a contained powder keg.

[Northern Monkey]

I'm sorry I really would rather you stick to the topic, involving analogy has never really worked for me.

Apart from when you're "relating to his past meetings in the spirit of peace and diplomacy ... again none of which were with ISIS.".......

And have nothing to do with Jihadi John whatsoever...

[Northern Monkey]

I am raising the issue that Corbyn and Corbyn supporters increasingly seem to be accused of sympathising with ISIS.
What purpose did killing him serve? A captive terrorist is a contained powder keg.

Well i do not think Corbyn supporters sympathise with ISIS.Well maybe some do but as a whole i'd say not.Corbyn on the other hand i'm not so sure.

As for killing Jihadi John.He was taken out in the most efficient way possible without any American soldiers dying in the process.My point that i raised earlier was that if Corbyn had his way and was in control of the military he would risk the lives of soldiers needlessly in order to get Jihadi John into a courtroom.That alone imo makes him unfit to lead a country and its armed forces.

[Kizzy]

Apart from when you're "relating to his past meetings in the spirit of peace and diplomacy ... again none of which were with ISIS.".......

And have nothing to do with Jihadi John whatsoever...

I related Corbyns work as a international diplomat to the discussion yes. The comparison of Corbyn to some MP who campaigned on behalf of the Kray twins is not relevant here no, not as I see it.

He has made comments relating to jihadi john, but as I said earlier the two are separate issues as I see them.

[Kizzy]

Well i do not think Corbyn supporters sympathise with ISIS.Well maybe some do but as a whole i'd say not.Corbyn on the other hand i'm not so sure.

As for killing Jihadi John.He was taken out in the most efficient way possible without any American soldiers dying in the process.My point that i raised earlier was that if Corbyn had his way and was in control of the military he would risk the lives of soldiers needlessly in order to get Jihadi John into a courtroom.That alone imo makes him unfit to lead a country and its armed forces.

You are welcome to think that, my feeling is that by killing him we have sealed our fate as a direct target.
It may have been seen as unavoidable but personally I think it was a mistake.
Not getting him in a courtroom could have already cost over 100 innocent French people their lives.

[bots]

The event in Paris would have been planned will in advance of any strike on Jihadi John. It was Friday the 13th.

I personally don't like the triumphalist stance of the USA. They could just have let the Jihadi John killing pass, and then say later down the line when they were sure of their facts one way or another that they had taken him out. They look like complete fools now in my opinion.

[billy123]

I see the right wing nutters are out in force all the talk of murdering people for their actions makes you no better than they are.
Call me a bleeding heart all you want at least i have a heart. Call me a looney left all you like while you let yourself down by calling for the blood of others just like they call for yours.


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[Northern Monkey]

You are welcome to think that, my feeling is that by killing him we have sealed our fate as a direct target.
It may have been seen as unavoidable but personally I think it was a mistake.
Not getting him in a courtroom could have already cost over 100 innocent French people their lives.

My personal feeling is that the Paris attack would have happened anyway.If it was revenge for Jihadi John it seems very quick off the mark.

[Cherie]

My personal feeling is that the Paris attack would have happened anyway.If it was revenge for Jihadi John it seems very quick off the mark.

I agree with this it was far too coordinated, Is there even a game at the Stade de France every Friday ...this was a well planned attack just like all the others

[Kizzy]

I did say could...
I agree that the grandstanding could be seen as a challenge.

[arista]

I see the right wing nutters are out in force all the talk of murdering people for their actions makes you no better than they are.
Call me a bleeding heart all you want at least i have a heart. Call me a looney left all you like while you let yourself down by calling for the blood of others just like they call for yours.


http://thestaffordvoice.com/assets/Darkness-light-hate-love.jpg

MLK could say that back then.


Now Brits and Americans hostages got the Heads Cut off
Live on the Internet,

So Killing this London Evil Kid was the only way
of course once they do confirm 100%
he is dead

[DemolitionRed]

Lets remember that Jihadi John was merely a symbol of IS. He had no specialist skills, he had no ranking significance within IS but was just used as a side show by both IS and the west.

Whilst the death of Jihadi John may be seen as a prise for the west, I doubt his death has made a mark on IS or the people of Syria. This strategic infiltration by the Americans is impressive but I doubt this entire plot was to kill Jahadi John; it was about taking out an entire IS holding.

[Northern Monkey]

BBC News saying so far one French National suspected and a Syrian passport found near one of the terrorists.

Possibly the Syrians coming in with the refugees and meeting up with one or more French nationals who would know in more detail where the targets were?


EDIT:Sorry wrong thread.I'll copy to the correct one.

[kirklancaster]

The suggestion that Corbyn thinks that Jihadi John should have been arrested rather than killed was not brought up by me first but was totally related to the thread title.You are talking about Corbyns terrorist sympathies.You raise a good point though.Corbyn would more than likely relish the chance of tea and Digestives with ISIS.

And - once again - How correct you are Paul.

[joeysteele]

They are separate as Corbyn hasn't attempted to talk with ISIS either....

.... and would not either Kizzy.
Sadly we have to just accept these unfounded in the main slurs are going to keep coming at him.

That is not to say he would not support as other leaders should, any efforts to assist other Nations to try to find some one that could intermediate between them hoping to find some way of breaking down those awful organisation.

It does seem at present the only hope the world has is that this vile organisation turns on itself and breaks itself down.

[Kizzy]

.... and would not either Kizzy.
Sadly we have to just accept these unfounded in the main slurs are going to keep coming at him.

That is not to say he would not support as other leaders should, any efforts to assist other Nations to try to find some one that could intermediate between them hoping to find some way of breaking down those awful organisation.

It does seem at present the only hope the world has is that this vile organisation turns on itself and breaks itself down.

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

[kirklancaster]

I related Corbyns work as a international diplomat to the discussion yes. The comparison of Corbyn to some MP who campaigned on behalf of the Kray twins is not relevant here no, not as I see it.

He has made comments relating to jihadi john, but as I said earlier the two are separate issues as I see them.

INERNATIONAL DIPLOMAT? Who are you kidding?

I see no diplomacy being extended to the Israelis by Corbyn.

You must mean International Terrorist DOORMAT. But unfortunately, the OPEN DOOR Corbyn would like them all to enter through is the the one leaing directly into the UK. Thank God that the UK does not yet belong to him.

[joeysteele]

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

I was given some better hope on QT on Thursday where a fair number in the audience thought the attacks on Corbyn was pathetic.

The Sun's representative got a very rough ride as to it.

Also he did say he sort of wished this individual Jihadi John ad been captured and today I have been amazed at how many agree in principle with that, and not only Labour supporters either.

[lostalex]

What does Corbyn think a trial would have accomplished? (same thing for Osama Bin Laden because i believe he said the same thing when OBL was killed by the US). Is there any doubt that he cut off an innocent person's head? so what is the purpose of a trial? to waste millions of tax dollars(pounds in this case) on prosecuting and housing that evil piece of **** for the rest of his life?

[joeysteele]

What does Corbyn think a trial would have accomplished? is there any doubt that he cut off an innocent person's head? so what is the purpose of a trial? to waste millions of tax dollars(pounds in this case) on prosecuting and housing that evil piece of **** for the rest of his life?

There is the possible, even maybe very outside chance, that over time he could reveal the network of IS and also what their plans were and where too.

Maybe not the case since he was a brainwashed and programmed individual but one thing is sure, you learn very little and in fact probably nothing from dead men.

[lostalex]

There is the possible, even maybe very outside chance, that over time he could reveal the network of IS and also what their plans were and where too.

Maybe not the case since he was a brainwashed and programmed individual but one thing is sure, you learn very little and in fact probably nothing from dead men.

OIC, so Corbyn was hoping we could torture him til he gave up his comrades? I seriously doubt that was Corbyns thought process.

[arista]

What does Corbyn think a trial would have accomplished? (same thing for Osama Bin Laden because i believe he said the same thing when OBL was killed by the US). Is there any doubt that he cut off an innocent person's head? so what is the purpose of a trial? to waste millions of tax dollars(pounds in this case) on prosecuting and housing that evil piece of **** for the rest of his life?


Alex loads in his own Party
have said he is wrong.

It would cause even more Deaths in the UK.

[Nedusa]

I see the right wing nutters are out in force all the talk of murdering people for their actions makes you no better than they are.
Call me a bleeding heart all you want at least i have a heart. Call me a looney left all you like while you let yourself down by calling for the blood of others just like they call for yours.


http://thestaffordvoice.com/assets/Darkness-light-hate-love.jpg

Better then to just kneel down and wait for the knife to start cutting....:shrug:

[DemolitionRed]

The thing is, none of us really know he's dead do we? and we never will. This is poor closure for the families of his victims don't you think?

[jennyjuniper]

In the immortal words of the Dave Clark Five:

"He's in pieces, bits and pieces"

to which Dave also has the response:

"And I'm feelling Glad All Over". :laugh:

:cheer2::dance::laugh:

[Denver]

The thing is, none of us really know he's dead do we? and we never will. This is poor closure for the families of his victims don't you think?

Apparently the US have video evidence from the drone but will never release it.

[joeysteele]

OIC, so Corbyn was hoping we could torture him til he gave up his comrades? I seriously doubt that was Corbyns thought process.

Where on earth did I say that and Corbyn certainly did not either,torture is not allowed in this Country but time can do a lot to someone, if you just keep at them.

Quite frankly however while not a violent man myself, the people he helped behead had months of torture.
Then a freak like him standing over them talking while they knew he was going to literally hack their heads off.
Subjected not only themselves to humiliation in the videos but causing massive pain and distress to their loved ones watching too.
They had to suffer slowly and for a large uncertain time.
Giving him what he wanted with a likely quick death seems all lop sided as to what he should have been made to suffer.

[joeysteele]

Alex loads in his own Party
have said he is wrong.

It would cause even more Deaths in the UK.

I know of people in the Conservative party who think we should get these people alive, it is not just Labour arista.
I won't even add what some of them think should be done with them once caught too.

[arista]

I know of people in the Conservative party who think we should get these people alive, it is not just Labour arista.
I won't even add what some of them think should be done with them once caught too.



You take him to court
Other Terrorists Blow up shopping Malls
same day
would never work Joey

[joeysteele]

You take him to court
Other Terrorists Blow up shopping Malls
same day
would never work Joey

Maybe not but nothing is working now and things are just being allowed to get worse.

[Mitchell]

Until you read this http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-was-right-about-jihadi-john-if-you-listened-to-his-victims-families-youd-know-that-a6733611.html because it seems the relatives of those who were murdered find no solace in giving Jihadi John the honourable killing – the sensational martyrdom - that he sought from the beginning.

But how exactly are we supposed to find him, capture him and take him to trial without risking lives of troops?

[Kazanne]

I don't care as long as he is dead,I'de like proof the scum was washed away.

[DemolitionRed]

But how exactly are we supposed to find him, capture him and take him to trial without risking lives of troops?

I don't know the answer to that Mitchell and perhaps there isn't one. I was just pointing out that Corbyn wasn't alone in his thoughts, the relatives of the victims felt the same way.

[kirklancaster]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRI3jFdfN8PvHIJpMDYTliLC8eFPWM81 6qyLF8VAOxTIQ9Qq9GN


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTY3LOOya_wYnmcm2FwI_wLPTpLzZ0Vs NKUcvj83n1n5Gba9XDY

"DEAD OR ALIVE YOU'RE COMING WITH US JIHADI"

[arista]

Maybe not but nothing is working now and things are just being allowed to get worse.


Things will Change

[Denver]

I think we need to storm Syria/Iraq and regain the country destroy the Terrorist and forget about collateral Damage.

[Kazanne]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRI3jFdfN8PvHIJpMDYTliLC8eFPWM81 6qyLF8VAOxTIQ9Qq9GN


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTY3LOOya_wYnmcm2FwI_wLPTpLzZ0Vs NKUcvj83n1n5Gba9XDY

"DEAD OR ALIVE YOU'RE COMING WITH US JIHADI"

:joker::joker: I love that movie Kirk

[joeysteele]

Things will Change

We've heard that for ages now too and despite even Russia getting involved too, things just get worse, the only thing that changes is that IS seem to gain more ground and actually continue to grow.

[arista]

We've heard that for ages now too and despite even Russia getting involved too, things just get worse, the only thing that changes is that IS seem to gain more ground and actually continue to grow.


Yes IS grows in France

But in North Iraq they were taken out by the Brave Kurds

[joeysteele]

Yes IS grows in France

But in North Iraq they were taken out by the Brave Kurds

Iraq is a big place ,they are still there,causing havoc.

[kirklancaster]

:joker::joker: I love that movie Kirk

:laugh::laugh: So do I Kaz - Do you know I can do the voices for most of the characters and I know the dialogue pretty much off by heart?

The original is the best too.

[lostalex]

i don't like how they demonize technology corporations in that movie. the 80's had lots of movies demonizing tech companies, like terminator and alien, and robocop, but look how awesome tech companies are these days, they;ve revolutionized the world.

those movies were very technophobic.

[Kazanne]

:laugh::laugh: So do I Kaz - Do you know I can do the voices for most of the characters and I know the dialogue pretty much off by heart?

The original is the best too.

Definitely,my mom has a 'thing' for Peter Weller,lol,she loves a man in a mask

[arista]

:laugh::laugh: So do I Kaz - Do you know I can do the voices for most of the characters and I know the dialogue pretty much off by heart?

The original is the best too.


I 'll Buy That For a Dollar

[waterhog]

I 'll Buy That For a Dollar

you been watching Robocop arista ?

[arista]

you been watching Robocop arista ?


I have it on BluRay Disc 1080P
5.1 sound


Feel The Force

[kirklancaster]

I 'll Buy That For a Dollar

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Definitely,my mom has a 'thing' for Peter Weller,lol,she loves a man in a mask

:laugh: She would love my mate then, he works in the Bank -- He's 'The Loan Arranger.'

[Kazanne]

:laugh: She would love my mate then, he works in the Bank -- He's 'The Loan Arranger.'

:laugh::laugh: good one Kirk :hehe:

[waterhog]

I have it on BluRay Disc 1080P
5.1 sound


Feel The Force


I worry about you.:shrug:

[arista]

Hog
no need to worry

I view it as a Work of Art.

And I get better sound than a Cinema can struggle with