Should the concept of Women raping Men be taken more seriously?

[Ashley.]

She forced him to have sex. Rape doesn't have to include violence. We have no control over how our bodies react to sexual stimulation. He could have been drugged, or sleeping, or many other things.
Being drugged or being manipulated/coerced into having sex. Women can orgasm and conceive during a rape, [just like] men can get erections during a rape. The human body is a strange thing.

The concept seems to be challenged, like this:
Okay, let’s be real. Unless you’re tied down or something, it’s likely that you could have escaped. Also, to the commenters, I’d say being raped by a male is definitely more traumatic than the reverse.

People seem to believe that it's easier for men to escape a rape, and have more control if a women is raping them, and therefore it shouldn't be taken too seriously. We get silly comments like "he should've enjoyed it". I'm not sure why, but people do find it hard to believe that women rape men, and it can leave several men too scared to own up to it in fear of looking weak / losing masculinity.

[Liam-]

Yes, all forms of rape should be taken seriously, no matter which gender is on the receiving end of it.

[Niamh.]

You'd really need to give a specific example tbf I mean physically speaking atleast it would be alot more difficult for a woman to rape a man, that's pretty much a fact but that's not to say it never occurs and of course if it does they should be given as much sympathy as a female victim imo

[Lostie!]

I’d say being raped by a male is definitely more traumatic than the reverse.

Is this person speaking from experience? Because otherwise, they have no right whatsoever to tell certain victims of sexual assault that their experience was "less traumatic".

Female on male violence needs to be treated more seriously in general to be honest, both sexual and non-sexual.

[Mokka]

Any incident where rape is involved should be taken seriously. We should take rape as a weapon of war seriously. We should also stop automatically assuming women who have been raped are only claiming to be raped to be vindictive against men.

Judicially, rape is to hard to prove for any victim.

[Ashley.]

Is this person speaking from experience? Because otherwise, they have no right whatsoever to tell certain victims of sexual assault that their experience was "less traumatic".

Female on male violence needs to be treated more seriously in general to be honest, both sexual and non-sexual.

I think the extremely ignorant "I'd say" at the beginning means that they have no idea what they're talking about.

I agree. There are several charities which focus on just women which I understand because these things are more likely to happen to women, but I feel men deserve a little more acknowledgement and a little more encouragement to come forward and get their own justice.

[Firewire]

Rape isn't just holding someone down and "having sex" with them which seems to be a huge misconception about it.

[Jamie89]

Yes it should be, but like people have pointed out it's to do with views on masculinity/femininity, and a lot of people just find it hard to imagine or believe.

It's kind of like the way male victims of domestic violence are sometimes ridiculed in the media.

If anyone is being attacked, regardless of gender, then it should definitely be taken seriously.

Edited to say: Isn't it true that in the eyes of the law a woman can't rape a man? I'm sure I've heard that, but I don't know if it really is the case? I think it's something to do with the technicality of rape requiring actual penetration?

[Lostie!]

I think the extremely ignorant "I'd say" at the beginning means that they have no idea what they're talking about.

I agree. There are several charities which focus on just women which I understand because these things are more likely to happen to women, but I feel men deserve a little more acknowledgement and a little more encouragement to come forward and get their own justice.

This isn't rape exactly but still a sexual assault, but there was a story in America a few years ago about a woman who castrated her husband when he filed for divorce. Anyway, they discussed it on The Talk (basically a US Loose Women) and they laughed about it. Sharon Osbourne (not that I expect decency from that piece of trash anyway) actually said "I think it's fabulous" and it was basically treated like an example of admirable feminism.

Assault on men is far too commonly treated as either a source of comedy or justifiable retribution for the crime of being a man.

[Niamh.]

Yes it should be, but like people have pointed out it's to do with views on masculinity/femininity, and a lot of people just find it hard to imagine or believe.

It's kind of like the way male victims of domestic violence are sometimes ridiculed in the media.

If anyone is being attacked, regardless of gender, then it should definitely be taken seriously.

yeah absolutely agree with that. Also I think family law needs to catch up with the changing times, atm it's very biassed in favour of mothers which probably was relevant years ago but not so much now

[the truth]

This isn't rape exactly but still a sexual assault, but there was a story in America a few years ago about a woman who castrated her husband when he filed for divorce. Anyway, they discussed it on The Talk (basically a US Loose Women) and they laughed about it. Sharon Osbourne (not that I expect decency from that piece of trash anyway) actually said "I think it's fabulous" and it was basically treated like an example of admirable feminism.

Assault on men is far too commonly treated as either a source of comedy or justifiable retribution for the crime of being a man.

100% true

[Kizzy]

What about the logistics? Sorry but I just can't see it.

[Firewire]

What about the logistics? Sorry but I just can't see it.

A woman drugging a man and then taking advantage = rape

There is no logistics involved in that.

[Jamie89]

What about the logistics? Sorry but I just can't see it.

The logistics of someone being sexually assaulted? I'm not sure what you want, a diagram?

[Liam-]

To the women, doesn't the idea that 'only women can be raped because they're weak' not offend you?

[Jamie89]

We're assuming as well that a man would need to be drugged. There are examples of people being paralysed with fear, (mostly talking about situations where women are raped), but I suppose this couldn't happen to a man could it, because he's so macho right?

[Firewire]

We're assuming as well that a man would need to be drugged. There are examples of people being paralysed with fear, (mostly talking about situations where women are raped), but I suppose this couldn't happen to a man could it, because he's so macho right?

It was merely an example to help her understand.

[the truth]

women have sliced off mens penises and 10000s have murdered men, so why not rape? its about how evil a person is, whether the man is shy or dominated or even too polite to say no they drug a man, fill him with booze or smash him across the face ....there are also cases of women being fitter / stronger....have you met army girls? theyre taught how to kill

[the truth]

To the women, doesn't the idea that 'only women can be raped because they're weak' not offend you?

yes and its a lie

[Niamh.]

To the women, doesn't the idea that 'only women can be raped because they're weak' not offend you?

No it doesn't offend me as physically speaking, for the most part we are weaker than men, also biologically speaking a man forcing a woman to have sex is easier than the other way around......again though I'm not saying female to male rape can't or doesn't happen, I would just imagine it's a lot less common. All victims of sexual abuse or rape have my sympathy though no matter which gender they are.

[Firewire]

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/nov/28/shia-labeouf-raped-performance-art-project-dazed

But everyone ignored this and made him out to be an attention seeker

[the truth]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3315247/Men-share-experiences-raped-women-secret-sharing-app.html

here are a lot of examples of women raping men

[Jamie89]

It was merely an example to help her understand.

Yeah I know, I wasn't directing my comment at you :) It was more to gauge from Kizzy's side of things, why someone might not believe a man can be sexually attacked by a woman but without being drugged being part of the scenario

[Ninastar]

Yes, all forms of rape should be taken seriously, no matter which gender is on the receiving end of it.

basically

[Mokka]

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/nov/28/shia-labeouf-raped-performance-art-project-dazed

But everyone ignored this and made him out to be an attention seeker

Women are made out to be attention seekers as well when they look for justice for a rape...

It's the culture behind rape that is the issue here, not the gender that has been victimized

[Livia]

The definition of rape in English law requires a penis to be inserted into a woman’s vagina, anus or mouth without her consent and in the knowledge that she doesn't consent. A woman can be charged with rape, but only if she is an accomplice in the rape of a woman by a male where penetration takes place.

[Kizzy]

The logistics of someone being sexually assaulted? I'm not sure what you want, a diagram?

Do you? I'm suggesting there's a difference between someone forcing themselves on you, and being forced on to or in to someone...

[Liam-]

The definition of rape in English law requires a penis to be inserted into a woman’s vagina, anus or mouth without her consent and in the knowledge that she doesn't consent. A woman can be charged with rape, but only if she is an accomplice in the rape of a woman by a male where penetration takes place.

So a woman can force a man to have sex with her, whether through blackmail, force, intimidation or through drugging, but won't get sent down for it or even punished, all because they didn't stick anything into the man? well that's kind of ****ed up.

[Livia]

So a woman can force a man to have sex with her, whether through blackmail, force, intimidation or through drugging, but won't get sent down for it or even punished, all because they didn't stick anything into the man? well that's kind of ****ed up.

She can be charged with sexual assault, blackmail, actual bodily harm, false imprisonment, administration of drugs without consent... but not actual rape. Male rape by another man though, is chargeable but has only been law for about twenty years.

[joeysteele]

She can be charged with sexual assault, blackmail, actual bodily harm, false imprisonment, administration of drugs without consent... but not actual rape. Male rape by another man though, is chargeable but has only been law for about twenty years.

Spot on.

[Livia]

Spot on.

Thank you, my learned Friend. And I'm sorry you took offence at my "nonsense" post in another thread. It wasn't meant to insult x

[Liam-]

She can be charged with sexual assault, blackmail, actual bodily harm, false imprisonment, administration of drugs without consent... but not actual rape. Male rape by another man though, is chargeable but has only been law for about twenty years.

Yeah, definitely a bit messed up :/

[Jamie89]

Do you? I'm suggesting there's a difference between someone forcing themselves on you, and being forced on to or in to someone...

Ok well your previous post suggested that you couldn't see a situation where a man could be forced by a woman, but this clarifies things. Yes there is a difference, but it can still happen, that a man can be sexually assaulted by a woman, and it should be taken more seriously than it generally is imo.

[the truth]

and if a child is produced from the raping of a male?

[Livia]

and if a child is produced from the raping of a male?

Into unknown waters with this one...

[Kizzy]

Ok well your previous post suggested that you couldn't see a situation where a man could be forced by a woman, but this clarifies things. Yes there is a difference, but it can still happen, that a man can be sexually assaulted by a woman, and it should be taken more seriously than it generally is imo.

No it didn't, you misinterpreted what I said, that's what happened.

[Jamie89]

No it didn't, you misinterpreted what I said, that's what happened.

How did I misinterpret it lol??? You literally said "I just can't see it."

Does that not suggest that you can't see a situation where a man could be forced into sex by a woman???

[waterhog]

I was going to reply to this but I thought it might turn into a orgy.

[Kizzy]

How did I misinterpret it lol??? You literally said "I just can't see it."

Does that not suggest that you can't see a situation where a man could be forced into sex by a woman???

No and you really are literally taking my post too literally.

[Jamie89]

No and you really are literally taking my post too literally.

Good point.

[Marsh.]

No and you really are literally taking my post too literally.

You're not taking serious debates seriously? :nono:

[Kizzy]

You're not taking serious debates seriously? :nono:

Urgh.. more psychoanalysis
https://38.media.tumblr.com/64bbd469a195196d4f5455c3ef8fcb70/tumblr_noytj9VFlN1sj0kyoo3_250.gif

[Denver]

Rape is rape no matter who the victim or who the rapist is, if someone is forced to have sex against there will then its rape and this country needs to sport out there ****ed up laws so every victim gets a fair trial and every attacker get the same punishment.

[Livia]

Rape is rape no matter who the victim or who the rapist is, if someone is forced to have sex against there will then its rape and this country needs to sport out there ****ed up laws so every victim gets a fair trial and every attacker get the same punishment.

Law evolves and changes, Adam. If there is a need it will come in to law. If you feel strongly, if anyone feels strongly, your MP is the person to approach. Actually, I'm quite proud of our legal system. It's not perfect, no legal system is, but I have great faith in it.

[empire]

there is a generation of women who are very forceful when being rejected by males, men can't flirt like the way they did before, the big concern there is that, for many females, think that a man has no right to say no to there sexual advances, when I was in my teens, I never chased girls, it was them who chased me, and I did not appreciate them and there friends grabbing me, and pulling my arms, and touching me everywhere, and my friends also had to put up with it, the departments for schools and colleges in the united states, refuse to release complaints from men who where raped or assaulted by women at campus, like there is something to hide, same thing here in the uk, if male are victims of rape they are silenced, by the male hate mob,

[JoshBB]

Oh yes, it's a definite area that needs improving. But ironically, I think it's men that perpetuate the whole idea of men being unrapeable.. the whole lad culture and "oh you should have enjoyed it!!" "get in lad!!!" bs going around that is really not helping.

I was actually shocked to find out recently that women are very fairly charged with rape, the charge is usually only assault.. when let's face it, we all know what rape is. Unvoluntary sex. Simple as that. Any gender can be raped by anyone.

[Livia]

Oh yes, it's a definite area that needs improving. But ironically, I think it's men that perpetuate the whole idea of men being unrapeable.. the whole lad culture and "oh you should have enjoyed it!!" "get in lad!!!" bs going around that is really not helping.

I was actually shocked to find out recently that women are very fairly charged with rape, the charge is usually only assault.. when let's face it, we all know what rape is. Unvoluntary sex. Simple as that. Any gender can be raped by anyone.

Josh, see my post at the top of this page for a definition of 'rape' in English law.

[Mystic Mock]

Of course it should be taken more seriously, but then I feel that rape gets overshadowed by other crimes like it's counterpart in Paedophilia, Terrorism, and illegal Immigrants.

Rape is a real problem in the UK, yet not nearly enough is done about it, so Men will be waiting even longer to get justice for when they've been raped.

[JoshBB]

Josh, see my post at the top of this page for a definition of 'rape' in English law.

I've read up, thank you for sharing. The law is wrong imo, I'm speaking from a moral point of view rather than one written down legally.

I would redefine rape as "penetration by penis or otherwise phallic shaped object into a person's mouth, vagina, or anus without consent".

[Northern Monkey]

I don't even see why this is a debate.All rape should be taken seriously.

[Kizzy]

I'm struggling with why sexual assault can carry a tougher sentence than rape, is it because only men can rape in law..
Did she get 4 years for the assault and for years for the audacity of posing as a man?

[Jamie89]

Josh, see my post at the top of this page for a definition of 'rape' in English law.

To be fair though if we're going to be pedantic (and I'm going to be :hee:) the OP does state "concept of...", so not necessarily the legal definition of rape but more how you personally interpret it maybe?

[lostalex]

Female on male rape is much more rare, and doesn't include the same level of violence or fear that male on female or male on male rape has. The truth is most men are not physically intimidated by women.

The power balance is just different.

I remember when i was in high school i was hanging out with some female friends, drinking, and i started getting a bunch of questions from one girl who kept telling me how cute i was, and was asking if i'd ever sleep with a woman. and i said no, i'm not attracted to women. then she asked "well what if i got you really drunk?" and i responded "well that would be rape" and she got very offended and her friends got offended and they said I was wrong to say that.

The truth is though, let's say that I as a gay man got pass out drunk and then woke up to a girl sucking my dick, or riding me... would i feel like i was raped? By definition i guess it was rape, but i would not really feel that violated. I think i would just be weirded out by it, but i wouldn't really feel that upset or scared. I definitely wouldn't call the police, and i don;'t think it would cause me any mental distress if it happened.

But if a man raped me, i definitely would feel violated and angry and scared. and i would definitely call the police.

[Lostie!]

Once again, I don't think anyone who hasn't been in the situation has any right to say it's not the same, that just continues to trivialise the experiences of male victims of sexual assault.

Sexual assault is reprehensible in any form, it's not a game of Top Trumps over who was more traumatised.

[Dollface]

Once again, I don't think anyone who hasn't been in the situation has any right to say it's not the same, that just continues to trivialise the experiences of male victims of sexual assault.

Sexual assault is reprehensible in any form, it's not a game of Top Trumps over who was more traumatised.

They need to watch the bit in True Blood where Jason gets repeatedly raped by Crystal and the other women, I felt so sorry for him :(
(yes i'm bringing up true blood in a serious debates thread, and yes i'm not sorry :fist:)

[alex_front2]

A support group exists in New York for gay men who have been sexually abused by women...

[Niamh.]

Once again, I don't think anyone who hasn't been in the situation has any right to say it's not the same, that just continues to trivialise the experiences of male victims of sexual assault.

Sexual assault is reprehensible in any form, it's not a game of Top Trumps over who was more traumatised.

absoloutely

[LemonJam]

kinda off topic but I think there should be more awareness of rape in the gay community, especially considering the rise of hookup apps etc.

[lostalex]

kinda off topic but I think there should be more awareness of rape in the gay community, especially considering the rise of hookup apps etc.

the vast majority of male on male rape is committed by straight men though, which not many people realize. but i agree, rape in the gay community and domestic violence in gay relationships is not talked about much, and especially cops and straight people need to be more aware of it, because they often don't take it seriously. they think of it as just 2 blokes getting into a fight.

[Livia]

To be fair though if we're going to be pedantic (and I'm going to be :hee:) the OP does state "concept of...", so not necessarily the legal definition of rape but more how you personally interpret it maybe?

The OP asks whether the subject should be taken more seriously. Having a legal definition of rape which does not apply to the scenarios given maybe goes some way to explaining why it isn't taken more seriously. If it's not illegal, it should probably not even be referred to as a "rape" but as a sexual assault.

I love it when you get pedantic Jamie...

[empire]

there is a rise in gangs of rapists that are women, in africa, south america, india, in cities in those part's of the world, men refuse to go out at night, in area's when it is dark, the media in these countries did not want to cause a panic, in case of copycat attacks, in many of the cases, weapons, injecting drugs behind the neck, where the main cause of these men being knocked out,one of my friends went to mexico, and someone told him to drive and not walk about in a part of the city, because men got raped by gangs of women in the dark of night, it shocked him, and he refused to go alone anywhere in that place, after the stories of what happened to these men,

[the truth]

“Nearly two-thirds of the male jail inmates who had been victimized said the staff perpetrator was female (64%).”[15]

Male victims of sexual abuse by females[16] often face social, political, and legal double standards.[17] The case of Cierra Ross'[18] sexual assault of a man in Chicago gained national headlines and Ross was convicted of aggravated criminal sexual abuse and armed robbery with a bail set at $75,000. A similar case includes James Landrith, who was made to penetrate a female acquaintance in a hotel room while incapacitated from drinking, while his rapist cited the fact that she was pregnant to advise him not to struggle, as this might hurt the baby.[

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2414136/Cierra-Ross-25-accused-forcing-man-gunpoint-sex-friend.html

[Jamie89]

The OP asks whether the subject should be taken more seriously. Having a legal definition of rape which does not apply to the scenarios given maybe goes some way to explaining why it isn't taken more seriously. If it's not illegal, it should probably not even be referred to as a "rape" but as a sexual assault.

I love it when you get pedantic Jamie...

You couldn't just let me get away with being a smart arse could you :fist:

But yeah, you're right of course. It makes me wonder why we have the term 'rape' actually. Not because of the act itself but just in terms of terminology, instead of using 'sexual assault' for all types of sex crimes.

[lostalex]

can we also agree that getting your dick sucked while you are unconscious is not the same as being ****ed while you are unconscious? penetrative sex is obviously different.

[Mystic Mock]

Female on male rape is much more rare, and doesn't include the same level of violence or fear that male on female or male on male rape has. The truth is most men are not physically intimidated by women.

The power balance is just different.

I remember when i was in high school i was hanging out with some female friends, drinking, and i started getting a bunch of questions from one girl who kept telling me how cute i was, and was asking if i'd ever sleep with a woman. and i said no, i'm not attracted to women. then she asked "well what if i got you really drunk?" and i responded "well that would be rape" and she got very offended and her friends got offended and they said I was wrong to say that.

The truth is though, let's say that I as a gay man got pass out drunk and then woke up to a girl sucking my dick, or riding me... would i feel like i was raped? By definition i guess it was rape, but i would not really feel that violated. I think i would just be weirded out by it, but i wouldn't really feel that upset or scared. I definitely wouldn't call the police, and i don;'t think it would cause me any mental distress if it happened.

But if a man raped me, i definitely would feel violated and angry and scared. and i would definitely call the police.

How can you tell how you would feel if a woman raped you if you've never experienced it?

I would imagine that all sexual violations would be traumatic for the victim.

[Mystic Mock]

They need to watch the bit in True Blood where Jason gets repeatedly raped by Crystal and the other women, I felt so sorry for him :(
(yes i'm bringing up true blood in a serious debates thread, and yes i'm not sorry :fist:)

Don't be sorry Dollface as you've brought up a very good point of hypocrisy in society.

The audience was meant to find what happened to Jason as "funny" and "lighthearted" but if you look at the darker undertones of it and say put Sookie Stackhouse in a scenario where she's tied down and being raped by a group of guys we would've had people complaining to the FCC, a collapse in the ratings, and eventual cancellation.

[lostalex]

men only really care if they are raped by another man, because they are homophobic, or they care if a woman puts something up their ass, again because they are homophobic.

how many men would actually be TRAUMATIZED and DAMAGED if a girl sucked their dick? like no man ever.

[Marsh.]

men only really care if they are raped by another man, because they are homophobic, or they care if a woman puts something up their ass, again because they are homophobic.

how many men would actually be TRAUMATIZED and DAMAGED if a girl sucked their dick? like no man ever.

:umm2:

[lostalex]

How can you tell how you would feel if a woman raped you if you've never experienced it?

I would imagine that all sexual violations would be traumatic for the victim.

no, not all sexual "violations" are equal, that is a stupid thing to say.

are you honestly saying to me that a man that has his dick sucked by a woman while he is asleep is the same as a man putting his penis into him and ejactulating into his butt while he is asleep? so don't say all sexual assaults are the same, because it makes no sense and no one believes you. you lose all credibility, and i say that even as a gay man.

there is a difference between a woman molesting a man and a man molesting a woman. even I as a gay man would be more offended by a man molesting me than a woman molesting me. There is a HUGE difference.

[the truth]

men only really care if they are raped by another man, because they are homophobic, or they care if a woman puts something up their ass, again because they are homophobic.

how many men would actually be TRAUMATIZED and DAMAGED if a girl sucked their dick? like no man ever.

yet another disgusting post packed with attention seeking lies

[Mystic Mock]

no, not all sexual "violations" are equal, that is a stupid thing to say.

are you honestly saying to me that a man that has his dick sucked by a woman while he is asleep is the same as a man putting his penis into him and ejactulating into his butt while he is asleep? so don't say all sexual assaults are the same, because it makes no sense and no one believes you. you lose all credibility, and i say that even as a gay man.

there is a difference between a woman molesting a man and a man molesting a woman. even I as a gay man would be more offended by a man molesting me than a woman molesting me. There is a HUGE difference.

When did I say that all sexual violations are equal? I just said that all sexual violations would be traumatic.:laugh:

[Marsh.]

It's sad when everyone gets judged by someone's low standards.

[Mystic Mock]

men only really care if they are raped by another man, because they are homophobic, or they care if a woman puts something up their ass, again because they are homophobic.

how many men would actually be TRAUMATIZED and DAMAGED if a girl sucked their dick? like no man ever.

So gay men that get bothered by a man putting his penis into his ass is Homophobic then?:laugh:

[lostalex]

So gay men that get bothered by a man putting his penis into his ass is Homophobic then?:laugh:

no, i'm just saying because of homophobia they would be much more bothered by it, because they would be worried that other people might think they are gay or see them as less manly if they were raped by a man as opposed to if they were molested or raped by a woman.

[empire]

the problem with the rape law is that it is out of date, and seems to be more of a propaganda for feminists to give women special rights to make them untouchable to the law, inturn they are giving rights to women to do what she wants to that person, that means she has the right to force sex on that person, in anyway, what disturbs me is that in are society, we have one gender sided laws for rape, and that means that the other can do what they like, for females who sexually abuse children, they knew that they would only get a slap on the wrist, or jail term for a year, because the jail term for rape is eight years or more, thats why these women where put down into the sexual assault law, you can thank are male hating politicians for that, its funny because you don't see female judges when it is a woman who is gulty of these crimes, because that female judge is not going to be soft and fall for her fake tears, and its the woman judge who will give her the long years in jail, because her male counterparts are to weak minded, because the person is a woman, who is gulty of her crimes.

[Lostie!]

men only really care if they are raped by another man, because they are homophobic, or they care if a woman puts something up their ass, again because they are homophobic.

how many men would actually be TRAUMATIZED and DAMAGED if a girl sucked their dick? like no man ever.

Every single word of this is nonsense, well done.

[Kizzy]

the problem with the rape law is that it is out of date, and seems to be more of a propaganda for feminists to give women special rights to make them untouchable to the law, inturn they are giving rights to women to do what she wants to that person, that means she has the right to force sex on that person, in anyway, what disturbs me is that in are society, we have one gender sided laws for rape, and that means that the other can do what they like, for females who sexually abuse children, they knew that they would only get a slap on the wrist, or jail term for a year, because the jail term for rape is eight years or more, thats why these women where put down into the sexual assault law, you can thank are male hating politicians for that, its funny because you don't see female judges when it is a woman who is gulty of these crimes, because that female judge is not going to be soft and fall for her fake tears, and its the woman judge who will give her the long years in jail, because her male counterparts are to weak minded, because the person is a woman, who is gulty of her crimes.

What?

[Denver]

men only really care if they are raped by another man, because they are homophobic, or they care if a woman puts something up their ass, again because they are homophobic.

how many men would actually be TRAUMATIZED and DAMAGED if a girl sucked their dick? like no man ever.

What a load a fecking **** rape has nothing to do with sexual preferences, a hetro man getting raped does not make them homophobic if they report it, its makes them human and they are allowed to feel violated just like a woman or a gay man nobody wants to be raped and its views like yours that is the reason men feel they can't admit to being raped.

[Lostie!]

What a load a fecking **** rape has nothing to do with sexual preferences, a hetro man getting raped does not make them homophobic if they report it, its makes them human and they are allowed to feel violated just like a woman or a gay man nobody wants to be raped and its views like yours that is the reason men feel they can't admit to being raped.

Absolutely right. It's like with how male victims of domestic violence are in many cases too embarrassed to come forward, because of this ridiculous notion among society that men being the victims (especially at the hands of women) isn't a big deal.