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Crimson Dynamo
24-11-2015, 06:29 PM
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Radar Online claims it has obtained a copy of the video, recorded in 2011
The clips reportedly show the actor, 50, performing oral sex on another man and smoking crack-cocaine out of a pipe in a Las Vegas hotel room
The other man in the video reportedly sued Sheen for giving him herpes
Sources told Radar that Sheen spent millions settling the lawsuit, and believed he had the only copies of the videos
Last week, Sheen sent shockwaves when he announced he had been secretly battling HIV for the past four years
It's unclear whether the recently surfaced video was taken before or after he was officially diagnosed with the virus


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3330633/Video-surfaces-showing-HIV-positive-Charlie-Sheen-performing-oral-sex-man-smoking-crack-cocaine.html#ixzz3sR1cWAQP


classy

Z
24-11-2015, 06:44 PM
He seems really troubled. He's always seemed trouble for as long as I've been aware of him as a public figure. You don't have that much sex and do that much drink and drugs without fighting some serious demons. I feel sorry for him and I feel bad that he felt pressured into making an announcement about his status, that's nobody's business but his and the people he chooses to have sex with.

GiRTh
24-11-2015, 06:51 PM
According to the Mirror he paid 6.6 million to have up to 8 vids kept quiet.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/charlie-sheen-paid-out-66million-6887548

He wont live much longer and I hope I'm not being harsh when I say I dont really feel sorry for him as I bet he's enjoyed himself.

JoshBB
24-11-2015, 06:52 PM
Nobody should have to pay anything to keep videos private.. disgusting that someone leaked them. A big jail sentence, I think.

Denver
24-11-2015, 06:53 PM
Nobody should have to pay anything to keep videos private.. disgusting that someone leaked them. A big jail sentence, I think.

If you don't want them leaked don't make them :shrug:

JoshBB
24-11-2015, 06:55 PM
If you don't want them leaked don't make them :shrug:

No. You're blaming the victim of a crime here. The person leaked a private video without permission here, and should be arrested. By making comments like this you're almost removing guilt from them and placing it to Charlie who did not want the videos to go public.

The press have behaved disgustingly towards Sheen in this whole thing.. very sad.

Liam-
24-11-2015, 06:57 PM
If you don't want them leaked don't make them :shrug:

He went to court and paid to have them not leaked, granted he is responsible for the videos being made in the first place, but whoever has leaked them have broken the law and should be suitably punished.

Denver
24-11-2015, 06:58 PM
No. You're blaming the victim of a crime here. The person leaked a private video without permission here, and should be arrested. By making comments like this you're almost removing guilt from them and placing it to Charlie who did not want the videos to go public.

The press have behaved disgustingly towards Sheen in this whole thing.. very sad.

It takes 2 people to make a sex tape maybe the other wanted the world to see it? It always gets leaked in the end.

Also Sheen deserves the bad press sleeping around knowing he had all sorts of diseases yet didn't tell the other person

Locke.
24-11-2015, 06:59 PM
**** sakes Charlie

GiRTh
24-11-2015, 06:59 PM
No. You're blaming the victim of a crime here. The person leaked a private video without permission here, and should be arrested. By making comments like this you're almost removing guilt from them and placing it to Charlie who did not want the videos to go public.

The press have behaved disgustingly towards Sheen in this whole thing.. very sad.What crime?. I'm certain no one will be arrested.

It all depends on who owns the video. If Sheens doesnt own the rights to the vid then he doesnt have a leg to stand on. The vid can be shown at the owners discretion and if Sheen doesn't want it to be seen then he has to come to some sort of arrangement with the owner. WHich it looks like he has done. There is no crime here.

Lostie!
24-11-2015, 07:00 PM
It's unclear whether the recently surfaced video was taken before or after he was officially diagnosed with the virus

As far as I'm aware, HIV isn't transmitted via saliva so (assuming his mouth wasn't full of open sores) he wasn't really endangering anyone if that's all they did.

Denver
24-11-2015, 07:02 PM
As far as I'm aware, HIV isn't transmitted via saliva so (assuming his mouth wasn't full of open sores) he wasn't really endangering anyone if that's all they did.

But he gave the other guy herpes

JoshBB
24-11-2015, 07:03 PM
It takes 2 people to make a sex tape maybe the other wanted the world to see it? It always gets leaked in the end.

Also Sheen deserves the bad press sleeping around knowing he had all sorts of diseases yet didn't tell the other person

It takes two people for a murder to take place as well, perhaps we should blame people killed by terrorist attacks for being in busy places too? Do you see how idiotic this logic is? The guilt for this crime is ENTIRELY on the person who leaked it.

What crime?. I'm certain no one will be arrested.

It all depends on who owns the video. If Sheens doesnt own the rights to the vid then he doesnt have a leg to stand on. The vid can be shown at the owners discretion and if Sheen doesn't want it to be seen then he has to come to some sort of arrangement with the owner. WHich it looks like he has done. There is no crime here.

What crime?? Erm.. how about the one where you aren't supposed to leak videos that contain sex unless all performers in it give their explicit permission to do so?

GiRTh
24-11-2015, 07:05 PM
What crime?? Erm.. how about the one where you aren't supposed to leak videos that contain sex unless all performers in it give their explicit permission to do so?
I thought the permission needed to be granted at the point of filming not at the point of distribution. If Sheen agreed to be filmed then no crime has been committed.

Denver
24-11-2015, 07:06 PM
It takes two people for a murder to take place as well, perhaps we should blame people killed by terrorist attacks for being in busy places too? Do you see how idiotic this logic is? The guilt for this crime is ENTIRELY on the person who leaked it.

So your saying you can only be murdered if you agree to it? Or you invite a terrorist to attack?

JoshBB
24-11-2015, 07:06 PM
I thought the permission needed to be granted at the point of filming not at the point of distribution. If Sheen agreed to be filmed then no crime has been committed.

The video was clearly supposed to have been kept private, hence the bribes to do so, and a law has clearly been broken here. If they agreed to film themselves having sex but keep it only for the two of them, then that's what they stick to. Simple as that.

Liam-
24-11-2015, 07:06 PM
I thought the permission needed to be granted at the point of filming not at the point of distribution. If Sheen agreed to be filmed then no crime has been committed.

No, you need permission from both parties in order to post stuff like that online, otherwise it's a crime, it's called revenge porn.

JoshBB
24-11-2015, 07:07 PM
So your saying you can only be murdered if you agree to it? Or you invite a terrorist to attack?

Exactly. It's an extremely flawed logic. Are you saying he asked for his sex video to be leaked online, even after these huge bribes to keep it private?

Denver
24-11-2015, 07:09 PM
Exactly. It's an extremely flawed logic. Are you saying he asked for his sex video to be leaked online, even after these huge bribes to keep it private?

He took part in it he deals with the consequences and I find it pretty disgraceful your saying a sex tape is the same as murder/terrorist attacks :idc:

GiRTh
24-11-2015, 07:13 PM
No, you need permission from both parties in order to post stuff like that online, otherwise it's a crime, it's called revenge porn.

The video was clearly supposed to have been kept private, hence the bribes to do so, and a law has clearly been broken here. If they agreed to film themselves having sex but keep it only for the two of them, then that's what they stick to. Simple as that.
This was not filmed by someone that Sheen had known for years so due to the fact that he agree to be filmed by somone he hardly knows doenst that negate his right to privacy.?

The new revenge porn laws are full of holes.

Crimson Dynamo
24-11-2015, 07:15 PM
I dont know him and have never seen him in anything but he seems like one monumental prick to me

Shaun
24-11-2015, 07:18 PM
I think he might be a bit of an eccentric

Z
24-11-2015, 07:20 PM
I think he might be a bit of an eccentric

And he sure like to duck sick!!!!!!!!

Jamie89
24-11-2015, 07:42 PM
So he was also smoking crack-cocaine, yet the headline is that he was having oral sex with another man. Sensationalist crap, all of this.

Gstar
24-11-2015, 07:55 PM
Someone post t'video

alex_front2
25-11-2015, 05:28 PM
If you willingly make a sex tape then you should accept the possibility that the other party may show it to others or leak it. If you don't want it simply don't film yourself having sex which is what most non porn people did before the advent of home film. Hate whiners who whinge " ooo, poor me, I filmed myself having sex with someone, yes having sex on camera and am so shocked that person I slept with showed the film to other people, as films are not meant to watched.":bored::bored::bored::huh::suspect:

Ryan57
26-11-2015, 12:30 AM
The attorney in the lawsuit, Keith Davidson, just contacted Radar and provided the following statement. “The alleged video that you purportedly reviewed has nothing to do with the above referenced lawsuit which was filed and subsequently dismissed more than five years ago,” he said, adding, “Though there was video evidence involved in the aforementioned case, that video evidence did not come close to portraying what you have described. Furthermore there was but one copy of that case related video evidence. That sole copy of the video evidence was irretrievably destroyed.”

Case closed.

Dollface
26-11-2015, 12:38 AM
Nobody should have to pay anything to keep videos private.. disgusting that someone leaked them. A big jail sentence, I think.

:clap1:

I'm surprised by the complete lack of sympathy... I wonder how these people would feel if they impulsively made a sex tape and then it got leaked for the whole world to see.

alex_front2
26-11-2015, 06:44 PM
Have no sympathy for people who knowingly take part in home sex tapes then cry Wolf that others have seen the film. What do people expect others to do with a film? Eat it?!

People who are unknowingly filmed for sure are victims. If you know and consent to being filmed, please quit moaning, it's not the same. I think the law should be that if you knowingly take part in sex tape then you run the risk of leaks and footage falling into wrong hands. It's like letting go of a favorite balloon with jewellery attached into the air and then crying that someone nasty like Robert Mugabe or Vladimir Putin has it.

Jamie89
26-11-2015, 06:54 PM
Have no sympathy for people who knowingly take part in home sex tapes then cry Wolf that others have seen the film. What do people expect others to do with a film? Eat it?!

People who are unknowingly filmed for sure are victims. If you know and consent to being filmed, please quit moaning, it's not the same. I think the law should be that if you knowingly take part in sex tape then you run the risk of leaks and footage falling into wrong hands. It's like letting go of a favorite balloon with jewellery attached into the air and then crying that someone nasty like Robert Mugabe or Vladimir Putin has it.

The point is that he wouldn't have expected anyone else to do anything with the video, because it isn't their property. It's against the law to steal someones property, regardless of whether it's a video or anything else. It might have been foolish of him to think it would stay private, but that doesn't change the law, or the fact that if it was stolen, then he is the victim of a crime.

GiRTh
26-11-2015, 06:57 PM
The point is that he wouldn't have expected anyone else to do anything with the video, because it isn't their property. It's against the law to steal someones property, regardless of whether it's a video or anything else. It might have been foolish of him to think it would stay private, but that doesn't change the law, or the fact that if it was stolen, then he is the victim of a crime.Whos property is it? Is it Charlie Sheens property or the person who made the vids property?

alex_front2
26-11-2015, 07:13 PM
Jamie89, laws can change and are not globally universal. If the law meant that being on tape and proven to consent meant consent for the footage to be shown it would be better and lead to people maybe having a tad more self respect and responsibility for their own sexual actions.

Jamie89
26-11-2015, 07:14 PM
Whos property is it? Is it Charlie Sheens property or the person who made the vids property?

Hmm, I'm not sure, I assumed it was his property because he was granted permission for it not to be leaked wasn't he? I can't imagine he'd be afforded that if he had no rights over it? If that's not the case then fair enough with the Charlie Sheen case (although morally I'm still totally against it) but really I was just speaking generally in response to Alex_Fronts post which was talking about how if people make a video, then they can't complain if someone else gets their hands on it.

GiRTh
26-11-2015, 07:18 PM
Hmm, I'm not sure, I assumed it was his property because he was granted permission for it not to be leaked wasn't he? I can't imagine he'd be afforded that if he had no rights over it? If that's not the case then fair enough with the Charlie Sheen case (although morally I'm still totally against it) but really I was just speaking generally in response to Alex_Fronts post which was talking about how if people make a video, then they can't complain if someone else gets their hands on it.
As he appeared in the video and didn't shoot it and due to the court cases I'd assume, I might be wrong, that Sheen fdoesnt own the vid. Once we get to the bottom of who owns the vid then they are the person with the rights to distribute it.

Jamie89
26-11-2015, 07:18 PM
Jamie89, laws can change and are not globally universal. If the law meant that being on tape and proven to consent meant consent for the footage to be shown it would be better and lead to people maybe having a tad more self respect and responsibility for their own sexual actions.

I see where you're coming from, I'm just really uncomfortable with the whole thing. I just think it's a shame that something stupid someone did years ago can be held against them like this, I'm not saying he shouldn't have known better, he should have, but I still feel sorry for him.

Jamie89
26-11-2015, 07:26 PM
As he appeared in the video and didn't shoot it and due to the court cases I'd assume, I might be wrong, that Sheen fdoesnt own the vid. Once we get to the bottom of who owns the vid then they are the person with the rights to distribute it.

If it was up to me then anyone who appears in a video would have a say in whether or not it's ok to be distributed. I don't know why they don't just make the law simple and implement that. Cases like this are only going to increase over time surely.

JoshBB
26-11-2015, 07:28 PM
He took part in it he deals with the consequences and I find it pretty disgraceful your saying a sex tape is the same as murder/terrorist attacks :idc:

Are you deliberately misinterpreting me or are you extremely idiotic?

Z
27-11-2015, 10:18 PM
This has made me think about something I saw when I was like 14... a girl a few years above me had been videoed by her boyfriend while they were having sex and somehow it got out and spread round the school... at the time it was very salacious and we all thought it was hilarious and fascinating and it was scandalous etc... and now, looking back, I feel really bad about it because that poor girl must have wanted to die going to school every day... but at least she got to leave school and move on with her life and probably nobody ever thinks about it now and the video probably died with Nokia or whatever, this was pre Facebook and the like... this will never go away for Charlie Sheen if it ever surfaces. He's become this total pariah recently, it's horrible. I hope things get better for him soon.