View Full Version : People who say "oh I dont like children"
Crimson Dynamo
26-11-2015, 11:54 AM
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Selina from the Apprentice said last night "I dont like children"
What is going on with people who say that, what are they really saying or trying to get you to think about them?
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 11:56 AM
That they're tough and not maternal maybe? Maybe a woman in business feels the need to "masculine" herself up so she's on a level playing field with the men? Maybe they just hate children but why say it? Definitely trying to make some sort of statement about themselves
Jamie89
26-11-2015, 12:19 PM
That they're tough and not maternal maybe? Maybe a woman in business feels the need to "masculine" herself up so she's on a level playing field with the men? Maybe they just hate children but why say it? Definitely trying to make some sort of statement about themselves
I thought this too. Selina seems to me the type to put on a facade, I think that's what she was doing.
Livia
26-11-2015, 12:39 PM
It's her choice. Liking children is not compulsory, and I feel there are probably many more men who are not yearning to be a parent than there are women.
Crimson Dynamo
26-11-2015, 12:40 PM
It's her choice. Liking children is not compulsory, and I feel there are probably many more men who are not yearning to be a parent than there are women.
well she must have liked children when she was a child and I presume she likes children in her own family?
Livia
26-11-2015, 12:50 PM
well she must have liked children when she was a child and I presume she likes children in her own family?
Maybe, I can't speak for her. I love my nieces... frankly though, other people's kids are not nearly so fascinating as their parents think they are.
Do you think it's more unacceptable because she's female?
Crimson Dynamo
26-11-2015, 12:56 PM
Maybe, I can't speak for her. I love my nieces... frankly though, other people's kids are not nearly so fascinating as their parents think they are.
Do you think it's more unacceptable because she's female?
Not sure but it sounds worse as she is a women I guess
To be honest I dont believe anyone who says that and as has been said it is said to nake you think something about the person rather than it being a true statement
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 01:00 PM
It's her choice. Liking children is not compulsory, and I feel there are probably many more men who are not yearning to be a parent than there are women.
No of course it isn't but I know people, my best friend for example, doesn't want kids but she's never said "I don't like kids". I can understand someone not wanting to have or care for kids but I mean kids are just little people, they're all individuals, saying that you don't like all kids seems more like something said to make people think something about you
Vicky.
26-11-2015, 01:10 PM
Not wanting to have kids is miles away from not liking kids :laugh:
Livia
26-11-2015, 01:52 PM
Yeah, I see the whole "Dislike v Not wanting them" argument. But I do kind of see her point. Maybe I'll feel differently if I have my own, but kids are a bit of a pain in the arse if you ask me. Little attention sponges.Puppies though, or kittens... now you're talking.
Kizzy
26-11-2015, 01:56 PM
I think asking some women in their 20s you'll get a very different response to the same women in their 30s... I blame the saturn returns :laugh:
Liam-
26-11-2015, 01:58 PM
Yeah, I see the whole "Dislike v Not wanting them" argument. But I do kind of see her point. Maybe I'll feel differently if I have my own, but kids are a bit of a pain in the arse if you ask me. Little attention sponges.Puppies though, or kittens... now you're talking.
:clap1:
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 02:00 PM
Yeah, I see the whole "Dislike v Not wanting them" argument. But I do kind of see her point. Maybe I'll feel differently if I have my own, but kids are a bit of a pain in the arse if you ask me. Little attention sponges.Puppies though, or kittens... now you're talking.
Well the fact that you are actually considering having your own must mean that you can't dislike kids that much :fan:
Livia
26-11-2015, 02:04 PM
Well the fact that you are actually considering having your own must mean that you can't dislike kids that much :fan:
Nobody likes a smartarse, Niamh. Especially not another smartarse.
You're right I suppose. I don't feel very maternal ordinarily, although like I said I do love my nieces and would do anything for them. Babies don't make me broody and I don't want to hold them. They cry,leak at both ends and are generally helpless. I hope that feeling goes away if ever I do have one though LOL...
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 02:06 PM
Nobody likes a smartarse, Niamh. Especially not another smartarse.
You're right I suppose. I don't feel very maternal ordinarily, although like I said I do love my nieces and would do anything for them. Babies don't make me broody and I don't want to hold them. They cry,leak at both ends and are generally helpless. I hope that feeling goes away if ever I do have one though LOL...
haha I'm sure it will :laugh:
Vicky.
26-11-2015, 02:07 PM
haha I'm sure it will :laugh:
Til you get your first explodapoo that is :umm2:
Livia
26-11-2015, 02:08 PM
Vicky is not selling this to me, Niamh.
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 02:09 PM
:laugh2:
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 02:10 PM
Seriously though I'm babysitting my 2 nephews and niece tomorrow night, so not used to very little people anymore :worry:
Mokka
26-11-2015, 02:18 PM
Seriously though I'm babysitting my 2 nephews and niece tomorrow night, so not used to very little people anymore :worry:
I hear you. When my kids were little, I was a get down on the floor and play with them kind of mom. This summer a friend of mine from Germany had a crisis back home, and I and my daughter watched her boys for her for 4 weeks here while she was in Germany... I was a drinking coffee reading a book while they played kind of adult. I can't be enticed with the lego build or the tag in the park anymore :hehe:
Crimson Dynamo
26-11-2015, 02:19 PM
the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo
:umm2:
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 02:22 PM
I hear you. When my kids were little, I was a get down on the floor and play with them kind of mom. This summer a friend of mine from Germany had a crisis back home, and I and my daughter watched her boys for her for 4 weeks here while she was in Germany... I was a drinking coffee reading a book while they played kind of adult. I can't be enticed with the lego build or the tag in the park anymore :hehe:
I know right? I feel like I've done my time now :laugh: Luckily my two kids are so good with them so they keep them entertained
the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo
:umm2:
Oh God, I'd blanked all that from my mind :worry:
Jamie89
26-11-2015, 02:23 PM
Til you get your first explodapoo that is :umm2:
the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo
:umm2:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPfF7IaCcAACB1o.jpg
Mokka
26-11-2015, 02:24 PM
the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo
:umm2:
omg... those were the days :joker::joker::joker:
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 02:25 PM
Mokka that guy in your avatar looks like a young chubby Tom Cruise
Mokka
26-11-2015, 02:28 PM
Mokka that guy in your avatar looks like a young chubby Tom Cruise
It isn't...
Niamh. have you never seen the Anne of Green Gables movies??? :omgno:
It is Johnathan Crombie, the love of my youth. I just found out he passed away suddenly this spring and felt like paying tribute :lovedup:
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 02:30 PM
It isn't...
Niamh. have you never seen the Anne of Green Gables movies??? :omgno:
It is Johnathan Crombie, the love of my youth. I just found out he passed away suddenly this spring and felt like paying tribute :lovedup:
awww no sorry :(
I had heard of the books but never read them or saw the films
Livia
26-11-2015, 02:31 PM
the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo
:umm2:
That's a lovely story, and one you should be sure to share with every one of her boyfriends.
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 02:32 PM
That's a lovely story, and one you should be sure to share with every one of her boyfriends.
:hehe:
I can already tell you'll make an amazing parent Livia :')
Livia
26-11-2015, 02:32 PM
It isn't...
Niamh. have you never seen the Anne of Green Gables movies??? :omgno:
It is Johnathan Crombie, the love of my youth. I just found out he passed away suddenly this spring and felt like paying tribute :lovedup:
I haven't seen the movies! I didn't know there were any...
I read the books through and though as a child, in fact I re-read them last year. It's an ambition of mine to visit Prince Edward Island.
Livia
26-11-2015, 02:33 PM
:hehe:
I can already tell you'll make an amazing parent Livia :')
LOL... why thank you.
Mokka
26-11-2015, 02:38 PM
I haven't seen the movies! I didn't know there were any...
I read the books through and though as a child, in fact I re-read them last year. It's an ambition of mine to visit Prince Edward Island.
The movies were a CBC production... and like a religious experience here in Canada....
I love that you know the books though... I am re-listening to them in audio format rt now
Ashley.
26-11-2015, 02:46 PM
I think it's easy for us to forget that children aren't always going to be children, and that we were children once and adults probably despised us, running around in our masses like demonic pigeons and spewing all over their favourite shirts. It's easy for us to forget that, when we're long gone, these people are what we'll be leaving behind. I personally don't see how someone can dislike a child, but it doesn't bother me either way. I imagine the only thing that can change that opinion is having a child yourself and actually watching them grow up right before your eyes.
jennyjuniper
26-11-2015, 02:52 PM
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/01006/7ca99ec0-83f1-11e5_1006545c.jpg
Selina from the Apprentice said last night "I dont like children"
What is going on with people who say that, what are they really saying or trying to get you to think about them?
I think it's because she's a narcissist and selfish. One thing about parenthood is that it teaches you not to be selfish anymore.
Can't stand children, would be absolutely delighted if I never came into contact with another kid again
Benjamin
26-11-2015, 08:32 PM
I love my nieces and nephews. Children in general I cannot stand, and I really have no time for people who go on about their kids. I really don't care. :laugh:
Benjamin
26-11-2015, 08:33 PM
I think it's because she's a narcissist and selfish. One thing about parenthood is that it teaches you not to be selfish anymore.
LOL how is it selfish because you don't want/like kids?
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 08:36 PM
Ben you're such a liar, I've heard you say before that you want kids so you can't hate them, stop trying to be controversial :p
Benjamin
26-11-2015, 08:37 PM
Ben you're such a liar, I've heard you say before that you want kids so you can't hate them
My feelings have changed in the last few years. I also no longer wish to get married.. :tongue:
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 08:52 PM
My feelings have changed in the last few years. I also no longer wish to get married.. :tongue:
So you used to like kids but now you hate them? All your travelling has turned you cold and heartless, you've changed Ben, you've changed
Ashley.
26-11-2015, 08:54 PM
My feelings have changed in the last few years. I also no longer wish to get married.. :tongue:
By choice? :suspect::hehe:
Dollface
26-11-2015, 08:55 PM
ngl the whole women saying "i don't like children" thing has become a bit of a trend
Benjamin
26-11-2015, 09:03 PM
By choice? :suspect::hehe:
Yes by choice.
Benjamin
26-11-2015, 09:05 PM
So you used to like kids but now you hate them? All your travelling has turned you cold and heartless, you've changed Ben, you've changed
Maybe, but my priorities changed and the thought of having a family now does not appeal to me.
Ashley.
26-11-2015, 09:10 PM
Maybe, but my priorities changed and the thought of having a family now does not appeal to me.
That's good, Ben. There are so many things to do in this world that are just not possible when you have a child to be responsible for.
Benjamin
26-11-2015, 09:23 PM
That's good, Ben. There are so many things to do in this world that are just not possible when you have a child to be responsible for.
It does annoy me when some people with children act as if you just committed the worst crime ever if you say you don't want/like kids.
Each to their own and all, nothing against people who want/have kids, but I like my freedom too much to give it up and have no time for people who make you feel bad for that.
Niamh.
26-11-2015, 09:25 PM
I wasn't being serious lol I don't care if you want kids or not :unsure:
Benjamin
26-11-2015, 09:27 PM
I wasn't being serious lol I don't care if you want kids or not :unsure:
I wasn't referring to you or anyone on here :laugh:
I just mean in general day to day life.
Mokka
26-11-2015, 11:39 PM
I love my nieces and nephews. Children in general I cannot stand, and I really have no time for people who go on about their kids. I really don't care. :laugh:
so Ben, did I tell you yet about the really cute/funny/smart/brave/amazing thing my child did/said/wrote/played/made today??? :hehe:
Benjamin
27-11-2015, 07:07 PM
so Ben, I wish to withdraw from Most Loved
Okay, as you wish :pipe:
the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo
:umm2:
Ffs you said you'd never tell anyone about that!! Mortified
To answer the OP - I think for men and for women it's a very defensive sort of thing to say that I think maybe comes from a place of not wanting to be seen as emotional on the one hand, or because they don't believe they'd be good with children so refuse to try and instead box that feeling away and give this nonchalant response instead. I used to say I didn't like kids and I wasn't bothered about having any. I still don't know if I'll have any, but I realise that I was being silly before because it was just this empty catchphrase of sorts to seem blokey and blasé. I guess maybe it's a selfish person's catchphrase. Bringing a child up is all about self sacrifice and saying you hate kids is a way of cutting that idea at the root and saying no, my life is about me and me only. So definitely plays into giving off a ruthless no holds barred appearance, especially on something like The Apprentice where you want to come across as in control and self assured... but I think it's actually a very insecure comment to make...
It didn't faze me when she said that, and I don't think there's anything wrong with saying it. It's not like discriminating a minority group; as someone said, children won't always be children, and some people just can't tolerate traits that all children possess.
smudgie
27-11-2015, 09:30 PM
A lot of people don't like or want kids..then they grow a few years and change their minds.
Hubby never wanted kids, I handed him my baby niece once and he said he thought Puppies had a better smell and he would prefer a puppy.
The most doting father ever once the kids landed of course.
Mystic Mock
28-11-2015, 03:40 AM
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/01006/7ca99ec0-83f1-11e5_1006545c.jpg
Selina from the Apprentice said last night "I dont like children"
What is going on with people who say that, what are they really saying or trying to get you to think about them?
With her it's probably "don't just treat me like I'm a hot piece of ass, I am not a piece of meat" type of attitude to survive the business world of pervs.
Mystic Mock
28-11-2015, 03:47 AM
I know right? I feel like I've done my time now :laugh: Luckily my two kids are so good with them so they keep them entertained
Oh God, I'd blanked all that from my mind :worry:
You sound like my Mom, only she takes a really long nap while me and my Brother (mainly me) seems to have to wash his hands after going the Toilet, play Games with him all of the time, beg my Mom to give him extra junk Food and Drink than what his suppose to have, and I have to translate what he says as I'm the best at understanding what his saying.
Trust me I feel like a parent already and I'm only suppose to be the Uncle.:omgno::joker:
His great fun though.
DemolitionRed
28-11-2015, 07:44 AM
The problem with making that statement like that on popular TV is, it doesn't endear you to all those parents watching. Daft as it is, parents tend to take comments like that as a personal slight against their own kids.
Vicky.
28-11-2015, 08:47 AM
You sound like my Mom, only she takes a really long nap while me and my Brother (mainly me) seems to have to wash his hands after going the Toilet, play Games with him all of the time, beg my Mom to give him extra junk Food and Drink than what his suppose to have, and I have to translate what he says as I'm the best at understanding what his saying.
Trust me I feel like a parent already and I'm only suppose to be the Uncle.:omgno::joker:
His great fun though.
Its the same here...you would *think* having 5 kids instead of 2 would be more stressful...but the oldest who come on a weekend do everything for Skye and James, we don't ask them to either but obviously we aren't going to stop them :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
28-11-2015, 08:55 AM
perhaps she was essentially worried she would never meet the right man for her and so was putting up safety nets
Mystic Mock
28-11-2015, 09:22 AM
Its the same here...you would *think* having 5 kids instead of 2 would be more stressful...but the oldest who come on a weekend do everything for Skye and James, we don't ask them to either but obviously we aren't going to stop them :laugh:
If Skye and James are as hyper as my Nephew then I can't blame you tbh.:joker:
lostalex
28-11-2015, 09:30 AM
I'm much more concerned about people who fawn over children and have to constantly remind you how much they love children. i'm much more judgmental of those people... to me when adults like children, it tells me they have serious issues and can't handle dealing with other adults. they have serious issues with power and control.
Children are stupid and obnoxious... that's a fact. dare you to name a child that wasn't/isn't...
so people that prefer to spend time with children worry me.
Niamh.
28-11-2015, 09:40 AM
:umm2:
Ross.
28-11-2015, 09:45 AM
so anyway
kirklancaster
28-11-2015, 10:12 AM
so anyway
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
kirklancaster
28-11-2015, 10:23 AM
I'm much more concerned about people who fawn over children and have to constantly remind you how much they love children. i'm much more judgmental of those people... to me when adults like children, it tells me they have serious issues and can't handle dealing with other adults. they have serious issues with power and control.
Children are stupid and obnoxious... that's a fact. dare you to name a child that wasn't/isn't...
so people that prefer to spend time with children worry me.
:shrug: :laugh: You've lost me Alex.
I dote on my kids - still, even though they are not 'kids' anymore. I remember the time I was in tears when my middle child was seriously ill in intensive care and I begged God to take me and let him live, and my uncontainable elation when he recovered .
I remember the frustration of wishing I could take the pain of teething from them when they were helpless babies.
And I remember holding them and knowing that my absolute love for them was the most natural thing in the world.
None of my kids were ever 'stupid' or 'obnoxious' and they have repaid my devotion to them and any sacrifices I made a thousandfold, by growing up into decent, kind and caring intelligent young adults.
Ashley.
28-11-2015, 10:23 AM
I'm much more concerned about people who fawn over children and have to constantly remind you how much they love children. i'm much more judgmental of those people... to me when adults like children, it tells me they have serious issues and can't handle dealing with other adults. they have serious issues with power and control.
Children are stupid and obnoxious... that's a fact. dare you to name a child that wasn't/isn't...
so people that prefer to spend time with children worry me.
Did you lose a custody battle or something
kirklancaster
28-11-2015, 10:24 AM
Did you lose a custody battle or something
:laugh:
Ashley.
28-11-2015, 10:26 AM
:shrug: :laugh: You've lost me Alex.
I dote on my kids - still, even though they are not 'kids' anymore. I remember the time I was in tears when my middle child was seriously ill in intensive care and I begged God to take me and let him live, and my uncontainable elation when he recovered .
I remember the frustration of wishing I could take the pain of teething from them when they were helpless babies.
And I remember holding them and knowing that my absolute love for them was the most natural thing in the world.
None of my kids were ever 'stupid' or 'obnoxious' and they have repaid my devotion to them and any sacrifices I made a thousandfold, by growing up into decent, kind and caring intelligent young adults.
:clap1: :hug: :love:
Mokka
28-11-2015, 12:00 PM
Okay, as you wish :pipe:
:joker::joker:
I don't expect it will matter much if I am in or out :hehe:
Go ahead you power wielding maniac :hee:
Mokka
28-11-2015, 12:04 PM
:shrug: :laugh: You've lost me Alex.
I dote on my kids - still, even though they are not 'kids' anymore. I remember the time I was in tears when my middle child was seriously ill in intensive care and I begged God to take me and let him live, and my uncontainable elation when he recovered .
I remember the frustration of wishing I could take the pain of teething from them when they were helpless babies.
And I remember holding them and knowing that my absolute love for them was the most natural thing in the world.
None of my kids were ever 'stupid' or 'obnoxious' and they have repaid my devotion to them and any sacrifices I made a thousandfold, by growing up into decent, kind and caring intelligent young adults.
Kirk you lovable beast :lovedup:
You said it perfectly
I never thought I wanted children, but I most certainly have never hated or disliked them.
In hindsight, they are probably the only worth thing I will do in life.
AnnieK
28-11-2015, 01:17 PM
I spent many years trying to have a child but I would never have judged someone who said they didn't like / want children, I just knew I did. My own mum wasn't maternal in the slightest, she loved me and my brother but never fawned over other people's kids or wanted to hold babies, until her grandchildren came along.
Kizzy
28-11-2015, 01:32 PM
I think that people fixate on their kids a bit too much, they are like tiny celebrities and during visits all eyes are on them.
Pfft... put them on the kids table and have an adult conversation!
Have you seen secret lives of 5yr olds?.... they are perfectly capable of rationalisation and complex conversations, don't be fooled people!!
lostalex
01-12-2015, 09:32 AM
i feel like my comment has been unfairly interpreted by most of you.
dealing with children is a chore. it's NOT fun, it's not cute, it's not enjoyable looking after children MOST of the time. Children are a pain in the ass.
Niamh.
01-12-2015, 09:36 AM
i feel like my comment has been unfairly interpreted by most of you.
dealing with children is a chore. it's NOT fun, it's not cute, it's not enjoyable looking after children MOST of the time. Children are a pain in the ass.
:laugh:
I agree with that, I don't want anymore children, I've done my time lol and I don't love babysitting but that doesn't mean I dislike children, I just don't want to be responsible for any :laugh: There's a difference between disliking children and disliking looking after children imo
Livia
01-12-2015, 09:46 AM
I love looking after my nieces... but, and it kind of shames me to say this, it's wonderful when they're all tucked up and looking (deceptively) like little angels or blowing me kisses through the rear window of their parents' car.
Niamh.
01-12-2015, 10:07 AM
I love looking after my nieces... but, and it kind of shames me to say this, it's wonderful when they're all tucked up and looking (deceptively) like little angels or blowing me kisses through the rear window of their parents' car.
mmm I baby sat my 2 nephews and niece last Friday night and I have my 2 nephews again this weekend for the whole weekend, I adore them but I can't help thinking ugh my whole weekend is gone :bawling:
Livia
01-12-2015, 10:21 AM
Reg hates my nieces... they're too fast and too loud for him. They burst through the door like the Drug Squad and a split second later I hear the cat flap go 'flick-flack'.
Niamh.
01-12-2015, 10:32 AM
Reg hates my nieces... they're too fast and too loud for him. They burst through the door like the Drug Squad and a split second later I hear the cat flap go 'flick-flack'.
Eddie loves people especially new people but that's the problem I have, they pull at him and he thinks they're playing with him and they'll end up scratched so I have to keep him away which is also annoying, my house isn't very small children friendly anymore
lostalex
01-12-2015, 10:34 AM
i'm guessing "reg and eddie" are men?
Niamh.
01-12-2015, 10:35 AM
i'm guessing "reg and eddie" are men?
Cats :laugh:
i'm guessing "reg and eddie" are men?
They do what the men wish they could do :joker:
My sister in law said something along the lines of "ugh what's the attraction, put all your energy and money into people who grow up to hate you? No thanks." :laugh:
Livia
01-12-2015, 04:47 PM
They do what the men wish they could do :joker:
My sister in law said something along the lines of "ugh what's the attraction, put all your energy and money into people who grow up to hate you? No thanks." :laugh:
They do exactly what men wish they could do. Stay out alley-catting all night and spend all day laying around licking their own balls and scratching themselves waiting for someone to bring them their dinner.....................
Crimson Dynamo
01-12-2015, 04:53 PM
They do exactly what men wish they could do. Stay out alley-catting all night and spend all day laying around licking their own balls and scratching themselves waiting for someone to bring them their dinner.....................
:flutter:
mrflibble
02-12-2015, 03:14 AM
I don't like kids. But I don't really like any people :laugh: I don't walk around going 'I hate children', but if someone brings up the topic of kids then I say it because it's the topic we're talking about, like I would do any topic. They're annoying, noisy, messy and do nothing interesting. I didn't like kids even when I was a kid, which is why I mostly just read books as a child.
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