Parents who send their kids to school ill...

[Vicky.]

Why the **** do they do this? Seems so ****ing selfish to me. Fair enough a sniffle or something shouldn't stop them going in, but yesterday some arsehole mother dropped their flu filled child off, and now Skye is really ill. She has chest problems anyway and tends to end up in hospital with colds so this has really annoyed me.

If she had brought the ill child on time and we had seen him, we would have kept Skye off. But he was brought late and we have only just found out about it from one of the teachers today who said thats where it will have came from as another 2 kids have dropped today too after playing with him yesterday. Surely teachers should have the right to refuse an obviously ill child from coming in too? Its just infecting more people for the sake of what I see as lazy parenting...only reason I can think of for it is that she doesn't want to bother herself dealing with a sick child so lets palm him off on someone else, even though chances are...everyone else will end up ill too

Sorry for ranty thread but I am seriously pissed off right now :bored:

[Niamh.]

That's annoying. Most likely they do it because they'd have to arrange a baby sitter if the child stays off? Still selfish though for both the poor sick kid that's sent to school and the other children/teacher being infected

[Crimson Dynamo]

but isnt the time that they are infectious prior to physical symptoms ?

[Niamh.]

but isnt the time that they are infectious prior to physical symptoms ?

Nope.

The Flu Is Contagious. Most healthy adults may be able to infect other people beginning 1 day before symptoms develop and up to 5 to 7 days after becoming sick. Children may pass the virus for longer than 7 days. Symptoms start 1 to 4 days after the virus enters the body.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/spread.htm

[Kazanne]

Maybe the parents have to work ,so school is the easy option, still inconsiderate though,I hope Skye is ok , people really don't think about others much do they?

[Vicky.]

That's annoying. Most likely they do it because they'd have to arrange a baby sitter if the child stays off? Still selfish though for both the poor sick kid that's sent to school and the other children/teacher being infected

Well this is one of the annoying parts of being a parent though, and its something that should be done, even if it is an inconvenience to do so :laugh:

Me and gav were both on a rant about this before and talking about our schools. apparently this parent kept sending their kid to school with nits in his juniors..all the class was treated multiple times but this kid never got treated and just kept being sent..as such the kid got picked on til he was like 15 as everyone remembered the time he kept giving people nits. Its just awful really..

We had a lad at our junior school too, that was sent in with a very contagious stomach bug..half the school caught it after he puked all over assembly (I do wonder sometimes if thats where my fear of vomit came from...as I was maybe 6 or so then...) who was also outcasted even though it wasn't his fault his parents couldn't be arsed to look after him at home...

Ugh it all annoys me so much

[Vicky.]

I was meaning this thread to be in general even though I made it a bit personal in the OP, but the parent in question doesn't work. The father does, the mother doesn't :p

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nope.

The Flu Is Contagious. Most healthy adults may be able to infect other people beginning 1 day before symptoms develop and up to 5 to 7 days after becoming sick. Children may pass the virus for longer than 7 days. Symptoms start 1 to 4 days after the virus enters the body.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/spread.htm

Yes but it wont be flu and no child could come to school if they had that, no adult either

so is it the same for colds?

[Niamh.]

Well this is one of the annoying parts of being a parent though, and its something that should be done, even if it is an inconvenience to do so :laugh:

Me and gav were both on a rant about this before and talking about our schools. apparently this parent kept sending their kid to school with nits in his juniors..all the class was treated multiple times but this kid never got treated and just kept being sent..as such the kid got picked on til he was like 15 as everyone remembered the time he kept giving people nits. Its just awful really..

We had a lad at our junior school too, that was sent in with a very contagious stomach bug..half the school caught it after he puked all over assembly (I do wonder sometimes if thats where my fear of vomit came from...as I was maybe 6 or so then...) who was also outcasted even though it wasn't his fault his parents couldn't be arsed to look after him at home...

Ugh it all annoys me so much

Oh yeah totally agree with that

And yeah, you know I bet everyone can remember a similar nit story about a particular kid. I don't know why people have kids if they can't be bothered to look after them properly

I was meaning this thread to be in general even though I made it a bit personal in the OP, but the parent in question doesn't work. The father does, the mother doesn't :p

No excuse at all then :nono:

[Niamh.]

Yes but it wont be flu and no child could come to school if they had that, no adult either

so is it the same for colds?

Well Vicky said Flu :hmph:

[Vicky.]

Yes but it wont be flu and no child could come to school if they had that, no adult either

so is it the same for colds?

Colds are extremely contagious :p

You can be contagious a few days before symptoms start, but you are contagious right til it goes apparently.

I said flu as thats what the teacher said, I do know this isnt actually flu. It is a very bad cold though..not a sniffly one.

I guess if this infected kid didn't go in when ill the others might still have got it, but sending them in obviously ill..is a surefire way to spread everything.

[Kizzy]

So sorry to hear Skye is poorly :( Did she have her flu jab?
I hope she's better soon, there's loads of bugs flying around right now.

[Kazanne]

I was meaning this thread to be in general even though I made it a bit personal in the OP, but the parent in question doesn't work. The father does, the mother doesn't :p

Ah well in that case Vicky ,the mother really should keep the child at home and look after him,poor kid,probably just wanted to stay in bed .

[Mokka]

unfortunately, I don't think schools have the legal right to refuse a child to come, at least here that is true. It is part of the child safety regulations. That being said, the school does have the right to call a parent if the child is to ill to perform, and if the parents are unattainable, they could section the child into a room or office on their own.

The teacher should have taken some course of action to isolate the problem once it was realized how ill the child was.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its not flu as that isd a serious condition and you are bedbound

its a cold if you can walk


A doctor told me that if you have flu someone could drop a bag with £1000 in your garden and you would be so ill you would not even contemplate getting it

[Cherie]

Welcome to parenting minefields Vicky! if he were that ill the school should have sent him home? Also I think it is incredibly unprofessional of a staff member to tell you that this kid caused other children to be ill as they have no way of knowing that for sure, some kids love school and don't want to stay off he can't have been feeling too bad if he was playing with other Kids bloody ipad

[Vicky.]

unfortunately, I don't think schools have the legal right to refuse a child to come, at least here that is true. It is part of the child safety regulations. That being said, the school does have the right to call a parent if the child is to ill to perform, and if the parents are unattainable, they could section the child into a room or office on their own.

The teacher should have taken some course of action to isolate the problem once it was realized how ill the child was.

I'm not sure this could have been done really, its a small class of 6 and there are 2 teachers. Apparently the ratio has to be 1 teacher to 3 kids at their age, so they couldn't supervise him elsewhere realistically :/

[Niamh.]

Its not flu as that isd a serious condition and you are bedbound

its a cold if you can walk


A doctor told me that if you have flu someone could drop a bag with £1000 in your garden and you would be so ill you would not even contemplate getting it

Did he tell you that when you went to see him complaining of man Flu? :fan:

[Cherie]

I'm not sure this could have been done really, its a small class of 6 and there are 2 teachers. Apparently the ratio has to be 1 teacher to 3 kids at their age, so they couldn't supervise him elsewhere realistically :/

They should have sent him home ????

[Vicky.]

Welcome to parenting minefields Vicky! if he were that ill the school should have sent him home? Also I think it is incredibly unprofessional of a staff member to tell you that this kid caused other children to be ill as they have no way of knowing that for sure, some kids love school and don't want to stay off he can't have been feeling too bad if he was playing with other Kurds!

I guess this is true yeah.

Still, the odds of it being true are massive :p

Also I don't care how much Skye loves school, if she is ill, she ain't going. Along with infecting others, I like to keep a close eye on my own kids if they aren't 100%, and certainly if they are very obviously not well. I thought other parents would be the same...but it seems some aren't :S

And was the Kurds an autocorrect? :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did he tell you that when you went to see him complaining of man Flu? :fan:

:fist: I was very ill

women dont understand man-flu

:hmph:

[Mokka]

Did he tell you that when you went to see him complaining of man Flu? :fan:

:hehe:

:joker::joker:

[Vicky.]

They should have sent him home ????

They might have tried..I have no idea. All I have been told from them is that he was dropped off and was full of 'flu' (I will put it like that so as not to upset trumpter, even though we know people call bad colds flu generally :laugh: ) and that today, they have a class of 3.

[Jamie89]

Its not flu as that isd a serious condition and you are bedbound

its a cold if you can walk


A doctor told me that if you have flu someone could drop a bag with £1000 in your garden and you would be so ill you would not even contemplate getting it

This is, in fact, how doctors in Scotland diagnose most serious illnesses :laugh:

[Cherie]

They might have tried..I have no idea. All I have been told from them is that he was dropped off and was full of 'flu' (I will put it like that so as not to upset trumpter, even though we know people call bad colds flu generally :laugh: ) and that today, they have a class of 3.

I'm shocked schools are like the secret service around here staff discussing other kids with parents is a no no due to things like this happening :laugh: is the kid who caused all the problems allegedly in school :joker:

[Vicky.]

I'm shocked schools are like the secret service around here staff discussing other kids with parents is a no no due to things like this happening :laugh: is the kid who caused all the problems allegedly in school :joker:

I assume he is, they didn't tell me which ones are off though. I may try and snoop tomorrow or when she goes back :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

And maybe there are just SOME parents who do not relish having to look after their kids all day long.

[Vicky.]

And maybe there are just SOME parents who do not relish having to look after their kids all day long.

Then they shouldn't be parents, tbh.

[Vicky.]

OK that was slightly inflammatory :laugh:

What I mean is, noone loves looking after ill children, especially whiney ones. But if you have them, it is your responsibility to do so :shrug:

[Niamh.]

OK that was slightly inflammatory :laugh:

What I mean is, noone loves looking after ill children, especially whiney ones. But if you have them, it is your responsibility to do so :shrug:

Yeah it's not even that, I would only be worrying all day that they were ok if I wasn't with them when they were sick

[Ashley.]

When I was younger, my parents used to check my temperature and if it was abnormal they kept me home. It was a good system and I think all parents should start doing this instead of just guessing or being lazy.

Like Niamh said, I'd be too worried if I sent my child to school when they were ill.

[Cherie]

OK that was slightly inflammatory :laugh:

What I mean is, noone loves looking after ill children, especially whiney ones. But if you have them, it is your responsibility to do so :shrug:

You don't know that is what happened here though, you are obviously protective of your child who is susceptible, kids come to school with snotty noses all the time, schools do have a responsibility towards the other students and staff to send home children they consider unfit to be in school, this didn't happen so we have to assume he was okay to be there :shrug:

[Cherie]

When I was younger, my parents used to check my temperature and if it was abnormal they kept me home. It was a good system and I think all parents should start doing this instead of just guessing or being lazy.

Like Niamh said, I'd be too worried if I sent my child to school when they were ill.

Schools have thermometers too!

[Ashley.]

Schools have thermometers too!

Why can't the parents do it? It's their child.

[kirklancaster]

OK that was slightly inflammatory :laugh:

What I mean is, noone loves looking after ill children, especially whiney ones. But if you have them, it is your responsibility to do so :shrug:

:laugh: I KNOW what you meant Vicky, and agree - they should NOT have kids then, but there definetely are SOME parents like this around.

[kirklancaster]

Yeah it's not even that, I would only be worrying all day that they were ok if I wasn't with them when they were sick

Yeah - But you're a proper mum.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I loved any old excuse to keep my lot off


:hehe:

[Tom4784]

Yeah that's shoddy parenting and inconsiderate too, doubly so if there is a parent on hand to look after the child.

When it comes to work, I generally hate it when people come in sick, I admire their commitment but I loathe getting their illnesses. Don't try to be a martyr, just take the day off.

[Cherie]

Why can't the parents do it? It's their child.

Because sometimes a child comes in fine but develops a temp over the school day?

[Cherie]

Yeah that's shoddy parenting and inconsiderate too, doubly so if there is a parent on hand to look after the child.

When it comes to work, I generally hate it when people come in sick, I admire their commitment but I loathe getting their illnesses. Don't try to be a martyr, just take the day off.

You do realise that kids pick up all sorts so if they were off for every sniffle they end up being chased up for lack of attendance :idc:

[Cherie]

Yeah - But you're a proper mum.

How do you know this Mum isn't?

[Tom4784]

You do realise that kids pick up all sorts so if they were off for every sniffle they end up being chased up for lack of attendance :idc:

Well...according to Vicky's post it seems like the kid was in the grips of the Flu to begin with. It didn't seem like it was something that developed over the day.

[Vicky.]

You do realise that kids pick up all sorts so if they were off for every sniffle they end up being chased up for lack of attendance :idc:

Not in nursery :idc:

I do get what you are saying though. But the teacher said the kid was obviously ill. I don't know if they contacted the parents to pick him up, I assume they did and she refused, given how she took him in like that to start with :S

I wouldn't expect a kid kept off for sniffles. But for a full blown cold, then yeah..I think its very bad parenting to send them like that

Edit. Even if the child wanted to go.

[Cherie]

Well...according to Vicky's post it seems like the kid was in the grips of the Flu to begin with. It didn't seem like it was something that developed over the day.

If the kid had flu he wouldn't be playing with other kids plus he would have a temp and would therefore go and sit in the office and be sent home

[Cherie]

Not in nursery :idc:

I do get what you are saying though. But the teacher said the kid was obviously ill. I don't know if they contacted the parents to pick him up, I assume they did and she refused, given how she took him in like that to start with :S

I wouldn't expect a kid kept off for sniffles. But for a full blown cold, then yeah..I think its very bad parenting to send them like that

Edit. Even if the child wanted to go.

Parents can't refuse to pick up a kid social services would be called!

[Dollface]

Schools have thermometers too!

Think back to when you was a child though ..When you was ill what was the one thing you wanted? For me it was my mum, not a teacher.

[Niamh.]

Think back to when you was a child though ..When you was ill what was the one thing you wanted? For me it was my mum, not a teacher.

Yeah absolutely

[Cherie]

Think back to when you was a child though ..When you was ill what was the one thing you wanted? For me it was my mum, not a teacher.

I'm not disputing children who are ill should be kept at home what I am saying is how ill was he given he was playing with other kids, not crying for his Mum and the school would have sent him home if he wasn't fit, one staff member moaning that he was full of cold does not confirm that he was unfit to be in school

[Cherie]

Plus I love how the Mum has been castigated as a bad Mum on the basis of heresay :idc:

[Vicky.]

Not too long ago, same mum was dropping child number 2 off. I was actually here this time as was waiting to take Skye in...she was telling the other mums how child 2 had been up all night coughing and spluttering and was full of cold but was not staying off. Mums were staring daggers at her xD

Luckily, child 2 is not in my daughters class, or even anywhere near her.

Skye still ended up ill a few days later, most likely after little brother caught the cold. But thats different...you cannot keep one off on the basis they MIGHT be contagious or might catch a bug. But if they are already ill then they should be off...

So yeah, it may be hearsay but she has previous for it so I am obviously going to assume the teacher is right again :tongue:

Rather wish I was fit enough right now to take Skye back to school myself once she is better, could be useful speaking to neglectful mum.

[Cherie]

Not too long ago, same mum was dropping child number 2 off. I was actually here this time as was waiting to take Skye in...she was telling the other mums how child 2 had been up all night coughing and spluttering and was full of cold but was not staying off. Mums were staring daggers at her xD

Luckily, child 2 is not in my daughters class, or even anywhere near her.

Skye still ended up ill a few days later, most likely after little brother caught the cold. But thats different...you cannot keep one off on the basis they MIGHT be contagious or might catch a bug. But if they are already ill then they should be off...

So yeah, it may be hearsay but she has previous for it so I am obviously going to assume the teacher is right again :tongue:

Rather wish I was fit enough right now to take Skye back to school myself once she is better, could be useful speaking to neglectful mum.


Okay well fair enough but that is why teachers don't normally discuss other students as it could lead to rows on the playground :tongue: It is annoying But as they go up through school sometimes you have to send them in a bit snotty if they are off for a few days and in an exam year, also some parents feel it's good good for the immune system to be exposed to colds you meet all sorts Vicky, you will have no hair left by the time they get to sixth form

[Vicky.]

I agree you have to send them in a bit ill when they are doing exams, but definitely not in nursery, which isn't even compulsory so you get NO backlash for keeping them off for any reason...

[Cherie]

I agree you have to send them in a bit ill when they are doing exams, but definitely not in nursery, which isn't even compulsory so you get NO backlash for keeping them off for any reason...

Yeah nursery is extreme, some parents get so competitive though..like little x has never missed a day off school or she might just be a crap Mum or a pushy one who thinks he might miss out, good luck! Let us know what happens if you confront her :laugh:

[Dominic]

I'm against this and I don't think it's right to have your child go to school while he's sick. But I have experienced situations MYSELF, it was mostly in middle school, where I wake up feeling great and after one hour in school I get sick, my throat starts hurting, my nose gets all runny etc. And that happened all the time with headaches and when my stomach was hurting (even if it's a bit different), where I wake up feeling great and after just a few hours I'm feeling super sick.

[kirklancaster]

How do you know this Mum isn't?

I don't Cherie - I was contrasting Niamh with the mums who DO send their ill kids to school BECAUSE they can't be bothered looking after them. And there ARE some parents like that who are less than parents in my eyes.

[Cherie]

I don't Cherie - I was contrasting Niamh with the mums who DO send their ill kids to school BECAUSE they can't be bothered looking after them. And there ARE some parents like that who are less than parents in my eyes.

I've heard that when Niamh keeps Finbarr and Fadola at home it's so they can bring her breakfast in bed and type out her posts on TiBB :fan:

[Cherie]

I'm against this and I don't think it's right to have your child go to school while he's sick. But I have experienced situations MYSELF, it was mostly in middle school, where I wake up feeling great and after one hour in school I get sick, my throat starts hurting, my nose gets all runny etc. And that happened all the time with headaches and when my stomach was hurting (even if it's a bit different), where I wake up feeling great and after just a few hours I'm feeling super sick.

School sickness :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

I've heard that when Niamh keeps Finbarr and Fadola at home it's so they can bring her breakfast in bed and type out her posts on TiBB :fan:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Ninastar]

i hate it. i'm at a school right now where I've been for like 2 months and this is my 3rd sickness bug. I'm always the one who cleans up the child who's just been sick so it's always me who gets it. We had 6 out of 10 kids off today with illness, but there wouldnt be that many if the parents didnt bring their poorly children in.

there is nothing more i hate than throwing up. I will hold it in for as long as possible which makes me feel even worse.

[Ashley.]

Right there. School should not be an excuse for parents to make teachers do their dirty work.

[Jessica.]

Teachers always told me that it's only acceptable to miss school if you are literally dying, I went to school sick loads of times, had one of the best attendance records

[Cherie]

Right there. School should not be an excuse for parents to make teachers do their dirty work.

So you have never gone into work/school feeling fine and then got ill?

[bots]

Whats even more annoying is that the kids bring it home with them and give it to the rest of the family

[Ammi]

..I can't remember how old Skye is, is this pre school or Reception class at school..?..

[Ammi]

..but yeah, sadly it happens and part of it I think..(and I am talking about compulsory school children ..)..is that many employer's are not flexible enough with parents who are forced to take time off because their child is ill, I know it's difficult for them as well though...there's nothing more heart-breaking than being with a sick child who only wants their parent, but for whatever reason, not being able to contact the parent...it's difficult for a parent as well sometimes, because their child can seem ill so kept at home and then they're fine after an hour or so, just a few sniffles and tired etc...


..I hope Skye's ok, Vicky...

[Mystic Mock]

I find it disgusting tbh as I remember last year that someone from my Nephew's Nursery had a stomach bug, and instead of sending him home, he spread the illness to my Nephew and the whole Nursery that he went too, me, my Niece, and a large portion of the family got it too and it took us weeks to get back on our feet.

But yes I feel sorry for what happened to Skye, Vicky, hopefully she'll feel better soon.

[Mystic Mock]

So you have never gone into work/school feeling fine and then got ill?

But from what Vicky's telling us that's not what's happened here, the child was already ill before going to Nursery, yet the Mother still sent the child in anyway knowing that the other children and the Teacher are very likely to be infected.

[Vicky.]

..I can't remember how old Skye is, is this pre school or Reception class at school..?..

Shes 3..its just nursery she is in. Theres no compulsory attendance or anything so its not even as if the teachers have been going down the parents neck for days off or anything...

[Cherie]

In response to Mock

Like adults children react differently to illness, by all accounts this kid was playing with other kids so it doesn't sound like he was at deaths door, the school should have him home if he was such a health risk or had a high temp, I do emphasise with Vicky but by all accounts Skye is more susceptible to colds than some other children, personally I feel the school are at fault here as they shouldn't be discussing another child's health with anyone other than the child's parents, and if he were that bad they should have sent him home or at least sent him to sit in the office until home time if his parents were unavailable to collect him.

[Kizzy]

You used to be able to leave a bottle of calpol for if they started to feel off it through the day, but they can't give them anything now so parents have to be called back in.
It's not an ideal situation for anyone if you don't have understanding employers even worse. :(

[Mystic Mock]

In response to Mock

Like adults children react differently to illness, by all accounts this kid was playing with other kids so it doesn't sound like he was at deaths door, the school should have him home if he was such a health risk or had a high temp, I do emphasise with Vicky but by all accounts Skye is more susceptible to colds than some other children, personally I feel the school are at fault here as they shouldn't be discussing another child's health with anyone other than the child's parents, and if he were that bad they should have sent him home or at least sent him to sit in the office until home time if his parents were unavailable to collect him.

I agree with the BIB, but it's not gonna take a genius to figure out that one set of parents were irresponsible and have sent a child into the School with a really bad Cold/Flu.

[Ammi]

..Calpol can be sent into school, that would be an individual school policy but usually it's just..(as with any medication..)..that it would have to be in a pre-measured dose by the parent but that's something easily done...with this, anything like that would be a committee decision I would think...and the same with children who are obviously ill when they arrive in the morning...it's more really down to the responsibility of the pre-school because like with this, as Vicky said..the children don't have to legally be there so there's no point in them moaning about a child...(and I agree with Cherie, it's not very professional for them to do so..)..while still accepting that child there that day..they need to make their policies clear and enforce them...you can't say to a parent, yes you can do that and then lay criticism with them for doing just that...