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Ashley.
09-12-2015, 06:49 PM
Isn't that weird? They're brought into this world and they haven't a clue what the **** they're doing, they're just eating grass or rolling around in mud. They have no concept of Death because they can't speak words to know what it means. They're just living. No worries. No stresses.

MB.
09-12-2015, 06:50 PM
erm

(also people who can't speak English probably still know what death is)

JoshBB
09-12-2015, 06:52 PM
at least they don't have to think about the tory government :worry:

Mokka
09-12-2015, 06:54 PM
they have survival instincts... which precludes having a concept of death.

Jamie89
09-12-2015, 06:58 PM
Maybe they're thinking the same about us :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
09-12-2015, 06:58 PM
very much like religionists

AnnieK
09-12-2015, 07:17 PM
at least they don't have to think about the tory government :worry:

very much like religionists

Really..........in chat and games????? Religion and politics... Ffs :facepalm:

MB.
09-12-2015, 07:17 PM
Donald Trump

Crimson Dynamo
09-12-2015, 07:18 PM
Really..........in chat and games????? Religion and politics... Ffs :facepalm:

yes, the thread is misplaced

Lostie!
09-12-2015, 07:20 PM
I believe they have a concept of death, personally.

Crimson Dynamo
09-12-2015, 07:22 PM
I believe they have a concept of death, personally.

of course they do

Ashley.
09-12-2015, 08:08 PM
they have survival instincts... which precludes having a concept of death.

Instinct lives in the subconscious mind, though. They have these survival instincts but I doubt they know why, it's just their bodies telling them what to do. Which I guess is Science, but it's not exactly a concept that they are aware of.

T*
09-12-2015, 08:12 PM
You can't speak animal though

Livia
09-12-2015, 08:20 PM
very much like religionists

Happy Hanukkah, Trumpet.

Ashley.
09-12-2015, 08:22 PM
Maybe they're thinking the same about us :laugh:

I wonder how they think. :think: They can't think things like "oh look there's my owner I'm going to go to her" :think:




Or can they

Cal.
09-12-2015, 08:48 PM
I always think stuff like this but different, like it's weird that my dogs literally just think about eating/barking at passing people/going for walks when we have so much to think about like they must have so much clarity.

Cal.
09-12-2015, 08:48 PM
I wonder how they think. :think: They can't think things like "oh look there's my owner I'm going to go to her" :think:




Or can they

Well they do but it's just not in words

Mokka
09-12-2015, 09:04 PM
Instinct lives in the subconscious mind, though. They have these survival instincts but I doubt they know why, it's just their bodies telling them what to do. Which I guess is Science, but it's not exactly a concept that they are aware of.

Actually, there has been some great scientific studies done in the last decade proving that dogs have conscious and cognitive thoughts. The same type of research that has been done to chimps and apes to show their relatedness to us, and the traits we attribute to humans but that exist in other species.

I think that just because we have no way to be aware of what animals do consciously, does not mean they don't have conscious thoughts.

Jamie89
09-12-2015, 09:10 PM
I wonder how they think. :think: They can't think things like "oh look there's my owner I'm going to go to her" :think:




Or can they

Are you stoned? :suspect:

kirklancaster
10-12-2015, 07:04 AM
No one KNOWS what cognitive abilities animals have - or any other cerebral capabilities because we cannot communicate with them in any common language.

How does ANYONE know whether your dog is sat there thinking; "Stop munching down that second bag of crisps you fat ****, turn off the TV and take me for a walk"?

A lot of animals certainly seem to me to have a lot more common sense and intelligence than a lot of 'humans' - and they are certainly far less cruel and evil.

Mystic Mock
10-12-2015, 07:17 AM
Actually, there has been some great scientific studies done in the last decade proving that dogs have conscious and cognitive thoughts. The same type of research that has been done to chimps and apes to show their relatedness to us, and the traits we attribute to humans but that exist in other species.

I think that just because we have no way to be aware of what animals do consciously, does not mean they don't have conscious thoughts.

Exactly this, and they can communicate with each other to some degree so they understand a little bit more than most people would give them credit for.

bots
10-12-2015, 07:57 AM
Elephants very much clearly know. They mourn when they lose a partner :shrug:

Jamie89
10-12-2015, 09:51 AM
Elephants very much clearly know. They mourn when they lose a partner :shrug:

Since we're talking about how great animals are, let's take a moment to appreciate the otter...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y3EH5dzziHk/hqdefault.jpg

Holding hands so they don't drift apart :flutter: