Ben Haenow's album charts at #10, Fleur's #14

[Locke.]

Well well well.

Fleur getting non stop adverts and TV appearances and Ben's album still charts higher, looks like Ben has won the friendly competition

[Dominic]

Ben still sucks

[Denver]

Oopps

[Daniel R]

Great news :clap1:

[LukeB]

Fleur's album sold over 23k-more
Ben's 18k

Fleur won

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

mess

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Fleur's album sold over 23k-more
Ben's 18k

Fleur won

idg this

how could she have sold more if she charted lower :c

[Denver]

Not Ben becoming the worldwide star and Fluer being the latest Steve Brokestien

[Pete.]

Lol slay it Fleur

[Locke.]

idg this

how could she have sold more if she charted lower :c

They released in different weeks.

But either way, Fleur sold like 5k more copies and probably had hundreds of thousands of pounds extra sunk into her promotion. They both done terribly. Time for Simon to pull the plug.

[LukeB]

idg this

how could she have sold more if she charted lower :c

I guess the other albums sold loads because it's probs a big week for albums or something, Adele,Coldplay,1D,Justin Bieber, Michael Buble.. I saw her sales thing on twitter.

[Benjamin]

Both are ****

[Samm]

Who had the better debut single in terms of sales tho

http://i.imgur.com/mXPdjjO.gif

[EspeonBB]

Fleur's album sold over 23k-more
Ben's 18k

Fleur won

:clap1: Fleur debuted at a lower position due to more competition (Adele, Coldplay, Bieber, 1D, Xmas albums from established acts etc.)

[Ross.]

Both are ****

you fookin what Ben

(@fleur being ****)

[Headie]

Ben sold 18k, Fleur sold 28.3k

well well well...

[EspeonBB]

Who had the better debut single in terms of sales tho

http://i.imgur.com/mXPdjjO.gif

Ben's debut single was only a hit in Burkina Faso (despite a Kelly Clarkson feature) so obviously not him
http://i.imgur.com/YTkVcKz.gif

[Locke.]

Ben sold 18k, Fleur sold 28.3k

well well well...

Both are getting dropped.

well

[Headie]

idg this

how could she have sold more if she charted lower :c

Ben released the album earlier with less competition, Fleur released the album last week at the same time as Adele/Coldplay/Jess Glynne etc. which explains why she charted lower despite selling almost 10k more than Ben Whonow.

Plus her #3 debut single Sax has been in the top 10 for 5 consecutive weeks now, whereas Ben's has never reached the Top 20. So it's clear Fleur is making Syco more money :clap1:

[Locke.]

and costing them more money.

[Headie]

and costing them more money.

Money well spent as she's clearly had a top 10 success for 5 consecutive weeks, and sold more than Ben in terms of both singles and album sales :clap1:

Her album has had barely any promotion, that's where people seem to be getting confused. Syco only promoted Sax, the album only got like 2 TV adverts as promo.

[Headie]

Ben is getting dropped

well

Totes agree bab x

[Locke.]

Both are ****

I don't think we'll be hearing from either of them ever again after this weekend turtle

[Headie]

I don't think we'll be hearing from Ben ever again after this weekend turtle

Who?

[lewis111]

There's no way Fleur will be dropped, she's the only one from Syco bar the 2 groups who is brining in any money
Sax spent 3 weeks in top 5 which I can't remember any X factor contestants from recent series doing

[Amy Jade]

Ben reaches the top 10 and sells 18k with zero promotion to be fair.

Fleur had a massive push by Syco, the huge promo from Asda and her sales were kinda low and she fails to crack the top 10...I know her fans will spin it to make it look great but Simon and Syco will be dissapointed at her not even managing to get into the top 10.

[Amy Jade]

Also her album is in 3 for £20 in Asdas so she's had a Christmas push too but while there were no Coldplay or Beiber in stock at all and about 5 - 10 of Jess Glynne, 1D and Little Mix the Fleur stock looked relatively full :/

[Headie]

Fleur remains on top, what a queen :love:

[Brother Leon]

Both are epic flops. No one from this series will be doing anything either. Show is on the final legs.

[Amy Jade]

Fleur remains on top, what a queen :love:

Apart from her single only getting to number 3 and her album 13?

[Headie]

Queen! <333

[Jordan.]

The general public too broke to afford fine things?

[reece(:]

Wasn't Ben's debut single #1 tho?

[Headie]

Wasn't Ben's debut single #1 tho?

Every Winners Single goes to #1 unless you're Joe McElderry :laugh:

[Jake.]

hnoestly couldn't care less for either

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Who and who?

[Mystic Mock]

Fleur's song is catchy, but the main issue for her is that she hardly sings on it (but that's a surprise) and she released an uptempo number first which means that it's not gonna sell her Album, I'm not making excuses for her but in fact saying where her Label went wrong with her.

Plus away from some die hard X Factor fans that bought into Simon's rubbish I think that most people will see the two as bland singers, Ben doing better though due to being Pop Rock and being able to have more passable vocals than Fleur.

[Mystic Mock]

Fleur's album sold over 23k-more
Ben's 18k

Fleur won

That's actually not that bigger lead considering she's out at the Christmas period.

[Mystic Mock]

:clap1: Fleur debuted at a lower position due to more competition (Adele, Coldplay, Bieber, 1D, Xmas albums from established acts etc.)

And what was Ben's competition then?

[Denver]

Every Winners Single goes to #1 unless you're Joe McElderry :laugh:

But Joe did go to #1

[Denver]

Was Fluer like #7 midweeks :omgno:

[Mystic Mock]

Was Fluer like #7 midweeks :omgno:

Her Album was at #17 in the midweeks I think.

If Simon wants that Album to sell Fleur will need to release a top notch ballad as her follow up to Sax.

[Ashley.]

Well I'm hardly surprised that Fleur didn't do well.

[Headie]

Her Album was at #17 in the midweeks I think.

If Simon wants that Album to sell Fleur will need to release a top notch ballad as her follow up to Sax.

Don't lie it was at #7 in midweeks.

[Mystic Mock]

Don't lie it was at #7 in midweeks.

No I heard that it was 17.

And it's better saying it my way than yours because you're saying that she has no momentum to sell that much during the whole week.:joker:

[Headie]

No I heard that it was 17.

And it's better saying it my way than yours because you're saying that she has no momentum to sell that much during the whole week.:joker:

It was #7 in the midweeks so you heard wrong :)

And she sold 26k in sales, compared to Ben's 18k :)

[Jake.]

26k for a #14 album is actually pretty high? That's more than a few #1 albums of late..

[Headie]

26k for a #14 album is actually pretty high? That's more than a few #1 albums of late..

Yeah, I think if she had released in any other week she would've got Top 10 easily but Syco had to go and release it in the busiest week of album releases didn't they :fist:

[LukeB]

Yeah, I think if she had released in any other week she would've got Top 10 easily but Syco had to go and release it in the busiest week of album releases didn't they :fist:

Syco should have released it early like Ben did(but not on the same week as 1D and Justin Bieber though) or early next year. she could have had a top 5 album if there wasn't any big artist around because Diana Vickers had a number 1 album with 30k sales, who also wouldn't have made top 10 if she released the same week as fleur.

[Ross.]

Leona's Glassheart was #3 with 27k sales in its first week, Fleur did just genuinely release at such a busy time which is a shame because the figure is impressive

[EspeonBB]

26k for a #14 album is actually pretty high? That's more than a few #1 albums of late..

I remember Xtina's Bionic went #1 with like 23k and there have been albums since which have sold less yet still went to #1. Fleur numbers are fine, she just released at a bad time

[Jake.]

yeah I mean Cheryl's latest sold less than that a charted far higher

[Denver]

I remember Xtina's Bionic went #1 with like 23k and there have been albums since which have sold less yet still went to #1. Fleur numbers are fine, she just released at a bad time

I think one of the weeks Emeli Sande was #1 she sold obout 14k copies

[Z]

The X Factor is a dying giant and it's a shame that a performer as effusive and energetic as Fleur is suffering as a result - I think Sax is really derivative to the point of being embarrassing but it's parodying good songs and it's a fun track that she sells well. I hope they give her a shot at a second album because if they put the money behind her, I'm sure she'll do well... but Syco's method seems to be to throw average middle of the road **** at their success stories and do everything in their power to sabotage them. It's a very strange business model.

[Marsh.]

Sax was obviously some misguided attempt at an Uptown Funk smash because she had a popular performance that one time. :joker:

[Headie]

Sax was obviously some misguided attempt at an Uptown Funk smash because she had a popular performance that one time. :joker:

Can't have been that misguided as it debuted at #3 behind Adele & Bieber and hasn't charted outside the Top 10 since release :clap1:

[Marsh.]

Can't have been that misguided as it debuted at #3 behind Adele & Bieber and hasn't charted outside the Top 10 since release :clap1:

Misguided in its quality and attempt to be Uptown Funk. :hee:

[Dollface]

i really like sax tbh

[Headie]

I think it sounds more like Michael Jackson than Uptown Funk tbh :shrug:

[Vicky.]

I really do not give a crap about x factor people after the show ends. I don't understand people who bicker on about this years later :laugh:

[Brother Leon]

26k for a #14 album is actually pretty high? That's more than a few #1 albums of late..

Physical Sales tend to be higher around this time tbf.

Hence why the people above her would has sold what they did too.

[Marsh.]

I really do not give a crap about x factor people after the show ends. I don't understand people who bicker on about this years later :laugh:

They have just released music, this is not years later. :nono:

[Mystic Mock]

Syco should have released it early like Ben did(but not on the same week as 1D and Justin Bieber though) or early next year. she could have had a top 5 album if there wasn't any big artist around because Diana Vickers had a number 1 album with 30k sales, who also wouldn't have made top 10 if she released the same week as fleur.

But Fleur would've sold less than Ben if she'd released it at an earlier date as sales aren't as strong then.

Simon gave her the wrong song to sell her Album, all it shows the public is that she's a dancer with a catchy song, and not really much performing and singing going on.

People want artists that push the boat out a little bit, not someone being wired up to do a few dance moves.