Exposing Davidiot Cameron

[Reg_Holdsworth_Fan]

Davidiot Cameron has ruined this country over the five years he's been in power that even Kim Jong-un is a better leader than him.

All Davididot has done is mess up the NHS, not shut our borders when he had to and most recently allowing us to invade Syria to "fight" ISIS when it is completely unnecessary and what he doesn't know is that he may be responsible for the deaths of our men and women!!!

Davidiot Cameron is a WAR CRIMINAL who doesn't know how to run this country, god knows how he won the General Election this year when there were far better parties out there!!!!

http://www1.theladbible.com/images/content/630w/54b4014acff63.png
SCREW YOU DAVIDIOT CAMERON!!!!!

YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A CHIPPY OIK, A PRETENTIOUS PIFFLER AND THE LOWEST OF THE LOW!!!

YOU MESSED UP THIS COUNTRY!!!!! :mad:

[Kazanne]

Davidiot Cameron has ruined this country over the five years he's been in power that even Kim Jong-un is a better leader than him.

All Davididot has done is mess up the NHS, not shut our borders when he had to and most recently allowing us to invade Syria to "fight" ISIS when it is completely unnecessary and what he doesn't know is that he may be responsible for the deaths of our men and women!!!

Davidiot Cameron is a WAR CRIMINAL who doesn't know how to run this country, god knows how he won the General Election this year when there were far better parties out there!!!!

http://www1.theladbible.com/images/content/630w/54b4014acff63.png
SCREW YOU DAVIDIOT CAMERON!!!!!

YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A CHIPPY OIK, A PRETENTIOUS PIFFLER AND THE LOWEST OF THE LOW!!!

YOU MESSED UP THIS COUNTRY!!!!! :mad:

I'm sure plenty will agree with you , I don't , he is doing a hard job and doing it ok imo.The picture sums up nicely what I thought of your post,lol.

[Reg_Holdsworth_Fan]

I'm sure plenty will agree with you , I don't , he is doing a hard job and doing it ok imo.The picture sums up nicely what I thought of your post,lol.

You must be on another planet to think he's doing a good job!! :conf::conf:

He ain't done NOTHING good for this country, if anything he's even worse than Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. :nono:

Even someone like Kim Jong-un or even Fidel Castro would do a better job than this pillock.

[Ramsay]

yeah north korea looks like great craic

[Kazanne]

You must be on another planet to think he's doing a good job!! :conf::conf:

He ain't done NOTHING good for this country, if anything he's even worse than Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. :nono:

Even someone like Kim Jong-un or even Fidel Castro would do a better job than this pillock.

:joker::joker:Have you lost your meds? DC is a great leader:hehe:

[JoshBB]

Yeah he's a twat.

[Reg_Holdsworth_Fan]

:joker::joker:Have you lost your meds? DC is a great leader:hehe:

Name me one good thing he's done for this country then other than mess it all up....

[Ramsay]

Davidiot hahaha

[Reg_Holdsworth_Fan]

Davidiot hahaha

Yes, Davidiot the smug dipsh*t who shouldn't even be taking charge of this once Great Britain.

[the truth]

Name me one good thing he's done for this country then other than mess it all up....

over 2 million new jobs

[Reg_Holdsworth_Fan]

over 2 million new jobs

Mainly to people who can't even speak English. :(

What about us British folk???

[the truth]

Mainly to people who can't even speak English. :(

What about us British folk???

over 2 million new jobs is a lot, its more than the rest of Europe put together

[the truth]

Hes done some halfway good things in exposing some corruption and waste in the nhs and strengthening the ombudsman and complaints procedures, sadly the abuses continue as we saw with the deaths of the mentally ill and the illegal uses of do not resuscitate....jobs wise over 2 million is excellent....corbyn did well to get working tax credits back....but everyone is failing on immigration and border control. the Syrian bombs are crazy even crazier without a masterplan, without border controls and without control over the cash flow to isis from oil theyre selling to assad and weapons they get from us
the sad thing is new labour were even worse, with them you got the lies and wars and nhs disasters , open borders, government waste, but also a bankrupt economy

[hijaxers]

over 2 million new jobs

yeah and 99% of em are crap

[Kazanne]

Mainly to people who can't even speak English. :(

What about us British folk???

A lot of British folk are too sodding idle and would rather play on their Xboxes all day !!

[Tom4784]

A lot of British folk are too sodding idle and would rather play on their Xboxes all day !!

Or, maybe, those 2 million jobs aren't suited to most people as they are zero hour positions which aren't enough to sustain a living from unless you're still in school/college?

Cameron's made a big deal about the the rate of unemployment going down but the truth is that it's not the case. Forcing people into jobs in which they cannot make a living wage on and classifying the unemployed as employed when they've placed on the work program is not fixing a problem, it's a smokescreen to fool the easily led.

[joeysteele]

I wouldn't go as far at all as to the descriptions in the opening post of him and I would not consider him a war criminal.
His lies however on the NHS were disgusting and he has brought that to chaos almost again.
He and his govts relentless heartlessness to the most vulnerable should be seen as an obscenity in any decent society.

One thing I can agree with,I do think he is the worst PM the UK has had since the start of the 20th,yes 20th century.
I also firmly believe in the future, analysis will record him as so for his procrastination more than anything else and his shocking treatment to the sick and disabled in the UK too.

Nothing at all to be admired in his treatment of the most vulnerable.
At the heart of every reform there should be at the very least compassion and fairness and while he is good at talking about and conning the voters as to compassion and fairness, it is something he has rarely enacted as to his time as PM in govt.

[DemolitionRed]

Or, maybe, those 2 million jobs aren't suited to most people as they are zero hour positions which aren't enough to sustain a living from unless you're still in school/college?

Cameron's made a big deal about the the rate of unemployment going down but the truth is that it's not the case. Forcing people into jobs in which they cannot make a living wage on and classifying the unemployed as employed when they've placed on the work program is not fixing a problem, it's a smokescreen to fool the easily led.

and something like 200,000 new public sector jobs that the Conservative party claims to have created are nothing more than straight forward reclassification.
Hundreds of thousands more are temporary jobs, part time jobs and self employed. No surprise that when employment went down family tax credit numbers suddenly rocketed.

[joeysteele]

Or, maybe, those 2 million jobs aren't suited to most people as they are zero hour positions which aren't enough to sustain a living from unless you're still in school/college?

Cameron's made a big deal about the the rate of unemployment going down but the truth is that it's not the case. Forcing people into jobs in which they cannot make a living wage on and classifying the unemployed as employed when they've placed on the work program is not fixing a problem, it's a smokescreen to fool the easily led.

Spot on Dezzy.
Most of them are part time jobs too anyway, it is ridiculous to say someone in part time work is in full employment, it is misleading

You are right too as to zero hours contracts, they are a disgrace unless people want them.
How can it be said anyone is in full time work when they don't know how many hours they will get one week to the next or even if they will get any hours at all.
How anyone can defend unemployment falling when most jobs are as you and I describe in reality is beyond me,talk about signs of some heartlessness in Britain.

[DemolitionRed]

Hes done some halfway good things in exposing some corruption and waste in the nhs and strengthening the ombudsman and complaints procedures, sadly the abuses continue as we saw with the deaths of the mentally ill and the illegal uses of do not resuscitate....jobs wise over 2 million is excellent....corbyn did well to get working tax credits back....but everyone is failing on immigration and border control. the Syrian bombs are crazy even crazier without a masterplan, without border controls and without control over the cash flow to isis from oil theyre selling to assad and weapons they get from us
the sad thing is new labour were even worse, with them you got the lies and wars and nhs disasters , open borders, government waste, but also a bankrupt economy

Don't get me started on a bankrupt economy because I could sit here all day and write the truth behind that one!!

I agree with you that the old NL's NHS was in big trouble and that Labour were just as intent on selling off the NHS as the Conservatives but Cameron lied to us all when he promised and reassured us all, "no more top down reorganisation of our NHS"

What they have actually done and this includes the LD coalition, is create some very serious fault lines within the NHS and as it crumbles our government is selling it off. The frightening thing is, most of us minions have no idea.

[waterhog]

Davidiot Cameron has ruined this country over the five years he's been in power that even Kim Jong-un is a better leader than him.

All Davididot has done is mess up the NHS, not shut our borders when he had to and most recently allowing us to invade Syria to "fight" ISIS when it is completely unnecessary and what he doesn't know is that he may be responsible for the deaths of our men and women!!!

Davidiot Cameron is a WAR CRIMINAL who doesn't know how to run this country, god knows how he won the General Election this year when there were far better parties out there!!!!

http://www1.theladbible.com/images/content/630w/54b4014acff63.png
SCREW YOU DAVIDIOT CAMERON!!!!!

YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A CHIPPY OIK, A PRETENTIOUS PIFFLER AND THE LOWEST OF THE LOW!!!

YOU MESSED UP THIS COUNTRY!!!!! :mad:

may I just say everyone was on the high horse with tony blair - is this any better - did I predict this ? id david as bad as tony ? will he be held account ? can I write decent poetry ?

ps is daididiot a new aftershave - had Davidoff before - I feel a poem.:joker:

[DemolitionRed]

No, no idea, yes, yes, no!

[Reg_Holdsworth_Fan]

id david as bad as tony ? will he be held account ? can I write decent poetry ?

ps is daididiot a new aftershave - had Davidoff before - I feel a poem.:joker:

Cameron and Blair are as bad as each other, they're borth amateurs who can't even run a country properly.

Davidiot is what a call the current PM, DavIDIOT Cameron. get it?? got it?? GOOD!!!

[waterhog]

look reg - I was pulling your leg - get it got it good.

[the truth]

all freemasons too....any short trousered back scratcher on here eh? wink wink?

[empire]

Im sure larry the cat would run number ten far better than mr toffee nose cameron, so vote larry for the tory leadership.

[the truth]

Or, maybe, those 2 million jobs aren't suited to most people as they are zero hour positions which aren't enough to sustain a living from unless you're still in school/college?

Cameron's made a big deal about the the rate of unemployment going down but the truth is that it's not the case. Forcing people into jobs in which they cannot make a living wage on and classifying the unemployed as employed when they've placed on the work program is not fixing a problem, it's a smokescreen to fool the easily led.

letter off in work. under new labour there were no jobs and the unemployment rate was rising and they were making unrealistic demands on minimum wage combined with being way too soft on the breed for benefits lardasses who chose not to work
work is better for infinite reasons, physical and mental health, social interaction, skills,discipline, structure, its always better to work then you can find more hours if you do a good job and a job can always lead to a better job or promotion. the majority of people said they are happy with zero hours...zero hours offer more flexibility and in effect help in job creation. people don't have to take zero hours , the vast majority of the 2 million plus new jobs are NOT zero hours. sorry to new labour fans but camerons economy is infinitely stronger than their immoral disaster.

thankfully corbyns labour (a far more moral party than new labour) did win on working tax credits which means more money in the pocket of the working poor. but we also have to get them out of the 15 hour trap where they are too scared to work over 15 hours for fear of losing housing benefits etc

[Kizzy]

In August, the prime minister David Cameron created 26 new Conservative peers. Even the usually Tory-supporting Times was uncomfortable at what it saw as an ongoing effort to “pack” the sporadically rebellious House of Lords with government supporters: “Mr Cameron has now created more peers than any other modern prime minister.” Government proposals for taming the Lords further, by reducing its powers to veto legislation, are expected to be slipped out before Christmas'

Quietly shifting to an autocratic state.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/14/conservative-power-grab-stay-in-power-permanent

[lostalex]

david cameron has done a fantastic job of keeping the UK very stable during some very traumatic events. He has been a good leader, you must admit, whether you agree with all of his policies or not, he has been a stable and strong leader.

Some people don't understand the stress of leadership

[Mystic Mock]

Davidiot Cameron has ruined this country over the five years he's been in power that even Kim Jong-un is a better leader than him.

All Davididot has done is mess up the NHS, not shut our borders when he had to and most recently allowing us to invade Syria to "fight" ISIS when it is completely unnecessary and what he doesn't know is that he may be responsible for the deaths of our men and women!!!

Davidiot Cameron is a WAR CRIMINAL who doesn't know how to run this country, god knows how he won the General Election this year when there were far better parties out there!!!!

http://www1.theladbible.com/images/content/630w/54b4014acff63.png
SCREW YOU DAVIDIOT CAMERON!!!!!

YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A CHIPPY OIK, A PRETENTIOUS PIFFLER AND THE LOWEST OF THE LOW!!!

YOU MESSED UP THIS COUNTRY!!!!! :mad:

:clap1:

I disagree with some of it, but I agree with you on him being a disgraceful leader, how his even still PM after the Pig scandal is a disgrace considering any normal day person goes and ****s a dead Pig they'd end up in jail.

[joeysteele]

:clap1:

I disagree with some of it, but I agree with you on him being a disgraceful leader, how his even still PM after the Pig scandal is a disgrace considering any normal day person goes and ****s a dead Pig they'd end up in jail.

Believe me Mock my friend,in my Uni days I came across some really odd things happening by, and between students, that would make Cameron's almost pale into insignificance.
If his is even correct in the first place of course to be fair to him.

[DemolitionRed]

In August, the prime minister David Cameron created 26 new Conservative peers. Even the usually Tory-supporting Times was uncomfortable at what it saw as an ongoing effort to “pack” the sporadically rebellious House of Lords with government supporters: “Mr Cameron has now created more peers than any other modern prime minister.” Government proposals for taming the Lords further, by reducing its powers to veto legislation, are expected to be slipped out before Christmas'

Quietly shifting to an autocratic state.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/14/conservative-power-grab-stay-in-power-permanent

Its a creeping infringement on our democratic rights and the biggest thing that worries me about our present conservative party. I just wish more people would wake up and take a more cautious interest in what's going on here.

[Kizzy]

That is Britain today, in which the parties have lost any interest in the public and the public have lost their interest in the parties. Mair mourned these trends, even while he understood them to be deeply rooted, reflecting the decline of social institutions such as trade unions and the church as well as the professionalisation of politics. Mass engagement in politics had allowed the public greater say, however imperfect, over how their countries were to be run and in whose interest. It is no accident that the golden age of mass parties in Britain was also the golden age of the Keynesian welfare state.

What remains, argued Mair, is a “governing class”. This is a kind of working aristocracy of politicians: some politicos sport distinguished family names (Kinnocks, Goulds and Benns), but all are increasingly divorced in background, education and profession from the people they are meant to be representing. And increasingly they are financed by the working aristocracy of business people and financiers who run our economy. Half of Conservative funding comes from the finance sector, which is duly repaid in tax cuts for the super-rich and advisory posts for private equiteers such as Adrian Beecroft.

Even Jeremy Corbyn’s rise can be explained through Mair’s lens: here is a not especially prepossessing backbencher who smashed his opponents for the leadership because he better represented the views of the Labour base. Writing in September, political scientist Henry Farrell argued that Corbyn proved Mair right – but that his party “will face relentless opposition from the elites that have replaced the masses as the main source of resources for parties and politicians”. That has proved eerily prescient. Britain’s party democracy is in its death throes; what is supplanting it is an unholy coalition of elites and cults.

Maybe the mantra 'they work for us' is no longer credible?

With the demise of unionised workers and the donations to party funds coming from kickbacks from the financial and private sector, maybe they now work for them?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/14/british-party-democracy-long-slow-death-elites-cults?CMP=fb_gu

[Mystic Mock]

Believe me Mock my friend,in my Uni days I came across some really odd things happening by, and between students, that would make Cameron's almost pale into insignificance.
If his is even correct in the first place of course to be fair to him.

Oh there probably is, but they're not running one of the most influential countries in the world.

[Mystic Mock]

david cameron has done a fantastic job of keeping the UK very stable during some very traumatic events. He has been a good leader, you must admit, whether you agree with all of his policies or not, he has been a stable and strong leader.

Some people don't understand the stress of leadership

Yes David Cameron is such a great leader that we've had.

The NHS privitised more than ever

Zero Hour Contracts where people don't know when they're gonna be working next

Forcing the disabled who are unfit to work to actually work

Having a disabled person climb a ladder in a Library which they ended up falling down

Getting the Media to attack everything about Ed Milliband (including his Father) whilst covering up his horrible Pig deeds

Using his dead Son to try and win votes during the General Election because his too **** to come up with decent policies

And of course we've had more Food Banks during Cameron's terms than we've ever done under Blair's or Brown's terms.

So no there's nothing respectable about this pillock, his like a more unlikeable version of George W Bush.

[bots]

Yes David Cameron is such a great leader that we've had.

The NHS privitised more than ever

Zero Hour Contracts where people don't know when they're gonna be working next

Forcing the disabled who are unfit to work to actually work

Having a disabled person climb a ladder in a Library which they ended up falling down

Getting the Media to attack everything about Ed Milliband (including his Father) whilst covering up his horrible Pig deeds

Using his dead Son to try and win votes during the General Election because his too **** to come up with decent policies

And of course we've had more Food Banks during Cameron's terms than we've ever done under Blair's or Brown's terms.

So no there's nothing respectable about this pillock, his like a more unlikeable version of George W Bush.

So much of this is factually incorrect, I don't know where to start :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

So much of this is factually incorrect, I don't know where to start :laugh:

You mean factually correct, because the last time I checked all of those stuff happened under Cameron's terms has it not? Except the Pig stuff of course.

[bots]

You mean factually correct, because the last time I checked all of those stuff happened under Cameron's terms has it not? Except the Pig stuff of course.

Yes David Cameron is such a great leader that we've had.

The NHS privitised more than ever

Zero Hour Contracts where people don't know when they're gonna be working next

Forcing the disabled who are unfit to work to actually work

Having a disabled person climb a ladder in a Library which they ended up falling down

Getting the Media to attack everything about Ed Milliband (including his Father) whilst covering up his horrible Pig deeds

Using his dead Son to try and win votes during the General Election because his too **** to come up with decent policies

And of course we've had more Food Banks during Cameron's terms than we've ever done under Blair's or Brown's terms.

So no there's nothing respectable about this pillock, his like a more unlikeable version of George W Bush.

Let me go through it then

NHS sub-contracting has been happening for years and was actively encouraged under the last labour government.

zero hours contracts were actively encouraged by the last labour government

Its not forcing those who cannot work to work, its forcing those who have been playing the system for years to get off their ass and get a job rather than sponging off the system.

The government do not control the media.

David Cameron has never used the death of his son to further his political agenda, and its actually disgusting to suggest it.

We had food banks under labour too, and the reason for the increase are many, not least of which is getting food to those that need it.

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Factual inaccuracies

[Mystic Mock]

Let me go through it then

NHS sub-contracting has been happening for years and was actively encouraged under the last labour government.

zero hours contracts were actively encouraged by the last labour government

Its not forcing those who cannot work to work, its forcing those who have been playing the system for years to get off their ass and get a job rather than sponging off the system.

The government do not control the media.

David Cameron has never used the death of his son to further his political agenda, and its actually disgusting to suggest it.

We had food banks under labour too, and the reason for the increase are many, not least of which is getting food to those that need it.

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Factual inaccuracies

1. Hence why I said more than ever under the Tories, not that it didn't start happening under Labour, please read my posts more carefully.

2. I'd never heard of it until the Tories got in power, so they've clearly used it more than Labour ever did.

3. So the disabled need to get off their ass and work even if they're physically incapable of doing so? Then don't forget to mention that people are trying to find work but keep being turned down by these nutcases who want to just martyr themselves by blaming the poor for "not taking the jobs."

4. Of course they don't, that's why stuff like BBC News isn't always in favour of the current Party in charge, or pretend to be anyway, and nearly every Newspaper are Tory supporters so to say that they don't control the Media is very naive.

5. He mentioned his Son to excuse his appalling treatment of the NHS and make out that his "the everyday man for taking his Son to the NHS" so yes he used to him to grab votes, intentionally or subconsciously he still did it.

6. And how about instead of hogging all the money for himself and other rich people all of the time, how about he distributes some of the money over to the lower classes so we don't have to have as many Food Banks as we have done under his terms?

So no inaccuracies, just a member in denial of the facts, thank you very much.

[Kazanne]

1. Hence why I said more than ever under the Tories, not that it didn't start happening under Labour, please read my posts more carefully.

2. I'd never heard of it until the Tories got in power, so they've clearly used it more than Labour ever did.

3. So the disabled need to get off their ass and work even if they're physically incapable of doing so? Then don't forget to mention that people are trying to find work but keep being turned down by these nutcases who want to just martyr themselves by blaming the poor for "not taking the jobs."

4. Of course they don't, that's why stuff like BBC News isn't always in favour of the current Party in charge, or pretend to be anyway, and nearly every Newspaper are Tory supporters so to say that they don't control the Media is very naive.

5. He mentioned his Son to excuse his appalling treatment of the NHS and make out that his "the everyday man for taking his Son to the NHS" so yes he used to him to grab votes, intentionally or subconsciously he still did it.

6. And how about instead of hogging all the money for himself and other rich people all of the time, how about he distributes some of the money over to the lower classes so we don't have to have as many Food Banks as we have done under his terms?

So no inaccuracies, just a member in denial of the facts, thank you very much.

I'm sorry Mocky,but bringing his son into your dislike of him is so low,one of the best pics I ever saw of a father and son was him and Ivan,I am so disappointed that you see it that way,I certainly didn't.plus the only the reason I voted for him is because I know what will happen God forbid Labour take power as they are.

[Kazanne]

Oh there probably is, but they're not running one of the most influential countries in the world.

So because you don't like him you are happy to believe the 'pig' story,even there are no hard facts? excuse the pun!?

[Kazanne]

:clap1:

I disagree with some of it, but I agree with you on him being a disgraceful leader, how his even still PM after the Pig scandal is a disgrace considering any normal day person goes and ****s a dead Pig they'd end up in jail.

Were you there Mocky? Is there proof this story is infact true? or is it merely to discredit someone people don't like? and believe me you are over reacting many a sheep shagger still roam freely :hehe:

[Livia]

Considering the alternative, I'd say he's doing a pretty good job in the circumstances. But this obviously isn't for discussion on this thread. It's more a thread about statements it seems to me.

[Rob!]

David *Hamron.

[lostalex]

david cameron seems to be the most capable of any major party.

clegg, miliband, and corbyn do not seem like viable leaders of the UK to me.

[empire]

Today, the main parties offer nothing to the people, what makes this worse is that cameron is a puppet to the EU, he could not stop throwing benefit money away to eastern europe, because the eu says they can't, british politics, is even more weak now than it was years ago, cameron is too spineless, like the rest of are career politicians, thats what the two main parties are now, we will never have a strong leader again, them days are gone, when was the last time we had a strong leader, that was a long time ago.

[Livia]

Today, the main parties offer nothing to the people, what makes this worse is that cameron is a puppet to the EU, he could not stop throwing benefit money away to eastern europe, because the eu says they can't, british politics, is even more weak now than it was years ago, cameron is too spineless, like the rest of are career politicians, thats what the two main parties are now, we will never have a strong leader again, them days are gone, when was the last time we had a strong leader, that was a long time ago.

You say "career politicians" like it's a bad thing. What do you want, people who dip in and out? Who flit from job to job?

[joeysteele]

Oh there probably is, but they're not running one of the most influential countries in the world.

No way of justifiably arguing against that point you make Mock, none at all, well said.

[joeysteele]

I don't agree that Cameron is a puppet to the EU.
I do genuinely believe that he wants to stay in the EU and will do what he can to bring that about.

His problem is he just hasn't controlled the anti EU section of the Conservative party, believe me,Labour have splits on the EU too but they are nothing as to that may come in the Conservative party if he gets all this reform work wrong for either side.
Which he already is doing, his refusal to allow 16/17 year olds the vote will in an exit result, have the pro EU sections of his party gunning for him for that refusal.

His attitude to the SNP at PMQs today as to their rightful and massive concerns as to what if Scotland and indeed if more of the Countries that make up the UK, vote to remain in but a part of England,probably the far South carry an exit result.
If he brings us out of the EU on that basis, he will create in a flash the worst likely constitutional crisis the UK has had in recent centuries.

It is his attitude that will be the problem on that issue, as is the case often across the board as to policy making, with a lot of his attitude, whereby he pays lip service to problems but rarely solves any really.
In the end actually a lot of the time creating problems that need not be there in the first place.

[bots]

I don't disagree that it is unfortunate when regions of the country hold different political stances to others, but with the EU we cannot be in or out by region, so it has to be by consensus of the country as whole.

I don't believe we will be out of the EU, it may be artificially bigged up to be closer than it is, but when it comes to voting day, it will be majority for remaining in.

[joeysteele]

1. Hence why I said more than ever under the Tories, not that it didn't start happening under Labour, please read my posts more carefully.

2. I'd never heard of it until the Tories got in power, so they've clearly used it more than Labour ever did.

3. So the disabled need to get off their ass and work even if they're physically incapable of doing so? Then don't forget to mention that people are trying to find work but keep being turned down by these nutcases who want to just martyr themselves by blaming the poor for "not taking the jobs."

4. Of course they don't, that's why stuff like BBC News isn't always in favour of the current Party in charge, or pretend to be anyway, and nearly every Newspaper are Tory supporters so to say that they don't control the Media is very naive.

5. He mentioned his Son to excuse his appalling treatment of the NHS and make out that his "the everyday man for taking his Son to the NHS" so yes he used to him to grab votes, intentionally or subconsciously he still did it.

6. And how about instead of hogging all the money for himself and other rich people all of the time, how about he distributes some of the money over to the lower classes so we don't have to have as many Food Banks as we have done under his terms?

So no inaccuracies, just a member in denial of the facts, thank you very much.


I agree, unsurprisingly,with what you say above.
I want to address the point I put in bold.

I really felt for him and his wife when they lost their Son,that is tragic for any parents.
He rightly praises greatly,the wonderful care from the NHS for his Son too.it was an example he used too when he was spouting off he would 'not' be doing any top down re-organisation of the NHS from his govt.

That is then where full justification of your point comes into play.this PM lied to the electorate on that, he got away with it but he lied pure and simple.

Then now on a related issue, he welcomed and I have no doubt appreciated massively the care his Son got from the NHS but he now disregards and virtually ignores the Parents who have children born with deformities who are now having appointments, treatment and operations put back regularly.
That is where his bringing his Son into the issue sticks in my throat and he has mentioned their son in relation to the NHS.
So it his he who brought his Son very sadly, into the political arena.

That to me is a disgrace on his part,even moreso when he was exposed as lying as to his 'No top down re-organisation of the NHS' which barely a year after taking office, he was enacting one of the biggest and most costly shake ups as to re-organisation from the top down there has been.

That is one issue that is the reason I would never likely trust a thing he says or believe him either.

[DemolitionRed]

When Cameron was re-elected this year, the first words he uttered to the British public were, "“For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone”

WTF? Only the Independent jumped on his words and stated, "This is the creepiest thing David Cameron has ever said"
Why would Cameron use such overly fascist language and more alarming, why were those words barely noticed by main stream media?

Since May of this year there's been an abundance of new legislation and most of that legislation comes under the guise of “war on terror.”
So what can this new "war on terror" legislation implement?
1. More police-state powers.
2. criminalise speech and political activity.
3. New disruption laws for individuals.
4. New banning laws for groups.
5. New public disorder laws which is based purely on perceived risk. This means peaceful protests can be broken up or stopped prior to taking place.
6. Massive new surveillance....The right to spy.

It would be nice to think this was all for our own safety, lots of people cosy up with those thoughts. Unfortunately its more about constantly and affectively controlling the people of this country; its a slow removal of an open society that we presently know as democracy.

David Cameron should not be trusted with our country.

[DemolitionRed]

I agree, unsurprisingly,with what you say above.
I want to address the point I put in bold.

I really felt for him and his wife when they lost their Son,that is tragic for any parents.
He rightly praises greatly,the wonderful care from the NHS for his Son too.it was an example he used too when he was spouting off he would 'not' be doing any top down re-organisation of the NHS from his govt.

That is then where full justification of your point comes into play.this PM lied to the electorate on that, he got away with it but he lied pure and simple.

Then now on a related issue, he welcomed and I have no doubt appreciated massively the care his Son got from the NHS but he now disregards and virtually ignores the Parents who have children born with deformities who are now having appointments, treatment and operations put back regularly.
That is where his bringing his Son into the issue sticks in my throat and he has mentioned their son in relation to the NHS.
So it his he who brought his Son very sadly, into the political arena.

That to me is a disgrace on his part,even moreso when he was exposed as lying as to his 'No top down re-organisation of the NHS' which barely a year after taking office, he was enacting one of the biggest and most costly shake ups as to re-organisation from the top down there has been.

That is one issue that is the reason I would never likely trust a thing he says or believe him either.

You are absolutely right. We all wanted to believe Cameron when he used his son as a heartfelt example. How could we not believe him?

[MTVN]

When Cameron was re-elected this year, the first words he uttered to the British public were, "“For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone”

WTF? Only the Independent jumped on his words and stated, "This is the creepiest thing David Cameron has ever said"
Why would Cameron use such overly fascist language and more alarming, why were those words barely noticed by main stream media?

Since May of this year there's been an abundance of new legislation and most of that legislation comes under the guise of “war on terror.”
So what can this new "war on terror" legislation implement?
1. More police-state powers.
2. criminalise speech and political activity.
3. New disruption laws for individuals.
4. New banning laws for groups.
5. New public disorder laws which is based purely on perceived risk. This means peaceful protests can be broken up or stopped prior to taking place.
6. Massive new surveillance....The right to spy.

It would be nice to think this was all for our own safety, lots of people cosy up with those thoughts. Unfortunately its more about constantly and affectively controlling the people of this country; its a slow removal of an open society that we presently know as democracy.

David Cameron should not be trusted with our country.

I don't think those were the first words he said to be fair. I'm not sure it means that much when you quote it out of context either: he was making the point that extremism is a threat to society even if it doesn't overtly encourage violence or terrorism. None of the new legislation has been that draconian really, and its nothing that another PM would not have introduced. Cameron is not some uniquely awful dictator. A lot of new legislation is just allowing the security services to improve their methods and progress in line with new techniques that are used by terrorists and criminals.

[Mystic Mock]

So because you don't like him you are happy to believe the 'pig' story,even there are no hard facts? excuse the pun!?

There's suppose to be pictures of him ****ing a dead Pig, his basically paid people off to not show it until his out of Office, then it will be leaked about 10 to 20 years later.

[Mystic Mock]

I agree, unsurprisingly,with what you say above.
I want to address the point I put in bold.

I really felt for him and his wife when they lost their Son,that is tragic for any parents.
He rightly praises greatly,the wonderful care from the NHS for his Son too.it was an example he used too when he was spouting off he would 'not' be doing any top down re-organisation of the NHS from his govt.

That is then where full justification of your point comes into play.this PM lied to the electorate on that, he got away with it but he lied pure and simple.

Then now on a related issue, he welcomed and I have no doubt appreciated massively the care his Son got from the NHS but he now disregards and virtually ignores the Parents who have children born with deformities who are now having appointments, treatment and operations put back regularly.
That is where his bringing his Son into the issue sticks in my throat and he has mentioned their son in relation to the NHS.
So it his he who brought his Son very sadly, into the political arena.

That to me is a disgrace on his part,even moreso when he was exposed as lying as to his 'No top down re-organisation of the NHS' which barely a year after taking office, he was enacting one of the biggest and most costly shake ups as to re-organisation from the top down there has been.

That is one issue that is the reason I would never likely trust a thing he says or believe him either.

Spot on Joey.

[DemolitionRed]

I don't think those were the first words he said to be fair. I'm not sure it means that much when you quote it out of context either: he was making the point that extremism is a threat to society even if it doesn't overtly encourage violence or terrorism. None of the new legislation has been that draconian really, and its nothing that another PM would not have introduced. Cameron is not some uniquely awful dictator. A lot of new legislation is just allowing the security services to improve their methods and progress in line with new techniques that are used by terrorists and criminals.

What did I quote out of context? Here's the full paragraph of what he said,

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone. It's often meant we have stood neutral between different values. And that's helped foster a narrative of extremism and grievance. This Government will conclusively turn the page on this failed approach."

I knew I wasn’t having a knee jerk reaction to those words but then I’ve spent most of my adult life being a libertarian and as such, it was words like this that sent a chill down my spine.

Most people believe the LD coalition was a complete waste of time but the one thing the LD’s successfully prevented during those five years was the implementation of Cameron’s proposed ‘Snooper’s charter.’

That sentence that he uttered, amongst other things was a very direct message to us all, even if we didn’t know it at the time. He was unleashed from the LD’s and could now go ahead with his full implementation of the IPB.

Within weeks of his victory he was reviving those old plans of his for mass surveillance across the length and breadth of Britain. This has always been Cameron’s baby and plans were started long before IS reared its ugly head, but with IS now on everyone’s lips, implementing this proposal was like giving candy to a baby. “Its all in the name of national security. Its about “war on terror”. Its about keeping your children safe”…but is it? Is it really?

If Cameron was worried about national security, why has he allowed such massive cutbacks on our frontline police forces? Why is Osborne proposing by 2020 our local bobbies will be reduced by a further 22,000? If he’s so concerned about home security, why does our Ministry of Defence figures show such drastic cuts in our armed forces over the last five years? Since 2010 we have cut back on over 20,000 soldiers.

Instead, this “war on terror” is going to be managed through massive cyber security! a security that allows access to our phones and our internet records for years. Cyber security isn’t about protecting us from the infidels; the real terrorists really aren’t that careless. Every time I read a news headline about how MI5 have infiltrated and foiled yet more terrorist plots I role my eyes because I simply don’t believe it; its merely a lie fed out to reassure the gullible public.

The new IPB is about restricting our digital freedom and when you restrict digital freedom you start to move towards totalitarianism and this, I believe is what Cameron wants.

[Kizzy]

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[Kazanne]

There's suppose to be pictures of him ****ing a dead Pig, his basically paid people off to not show it until his out of Office, then it will be leaked about 10 to 20 years later.

Do no REAL proof Mocky,just wishful thinking from his haters:laugh:

[DemolitionRed]

Do no REAL proof Mocky,just wishful thinking from his haters:laugh:

If only it was as simple as hating him!
For all I care, David Cameron could have cunnilingus with the oscar winning Babe so long as his political agenda was sound.

I don't hate Cameron, I just don't like some of his politics.

[joeysteele]

If only it was as simple as hating him!
For all I care, David Cameron could have cunnilingus with the oscar winning Babe so long as his political agenda was sound.

I don't hate Cameron, I just don't like some of his politics.

Snap for me except I intensely dislike near all his policies.
I have always said he will be a good Son,Father, husband and Friend.

My main wish is that he didn't stay that way avoiding bringing his heartlessness towards those far weaker than himself to the political arena.

Also to be fair to Mock, the pig saga was well documented and reported.it may not have been actually shown but the view was it did take place.
Just because Cameron says it didn't doesn't mean that is enough to contradict the report.
Now if it did not happen, then Cameron of course could be suing left right and centre all who said it did, 'IF' he can prove it didn't,that is.

One wonders why he is not doing so.
He for sure has the means to, unlike for others where he is taking away the legal aid vital for them to fight benefit losses,cuts and rejections.

[DemolitionRed]

I think he just hopes it will all go away and be forgotten about but we all know that he's going to be referred to as 'porky' for the rest of his days!

I wonder if his wife's going to cook him pigs in blankets and pork stuffing for Xmas ;)

[Kizzy]

I don't think those were the first words he said to be fair. I'm not sure it means that much when you quote it out of context either: he was making the point that extremism is a threat to society even if it doesn't overtly encourage violence or terrorism. None of the new legislation has been that draconian really, and its nothing that another PM would not have introduced. Cameron is not some uniquely awful dictator. A lot of new legislation is just allowing the security services to improve their methods and progress in line with new techniques that are used by terrorists and criminals.

What of the changes in the lords? Tinkering with the democratic process in force for 100s of years, flooding the chamber with tory donors hasn't worked so on to plan B.
Freedom of information requests, the review of those, erosion of civil liberties or war on terrorism?
Has another PM been as regressive? Not since Thatcher.

[Kizzy]

'The Telegraph has been fined £30,000 for sending hundreds of thousands of emails on the day of the general election urging readers to vote Conservative.

In what he described as an “unprecedented step”, Daily Telegraph editor Chris Evans asked readers to back the Tories in a letter added to its daily email.

But data protection watchdog the Information Commissioner’s Office found the newspaper’s parent company, Telegraph Media Group, broke direct marketing rules.


The watchdog said subscribers might have signed up to receive a daily email, but promoting the Tory election campaign “crossed a line”.

“People may well perceive the paper’s editorial content to have a political bias, but when the Telegraph emailed people directly calling them to vote for a political party they crossed a line,” said Steve Eckersley, head of enforcement at the ICO.

In his letter, Evans described the 7 May general election as “the most important since 1979” and urged Telegraph readers to vote Conservative.'

Torygraph, confirmation of a right wing media.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/dec/21/telegraph-fined-email-conservatives

[Johnnyuk123]

I disagree with the original post. David Cameron is doing a great job of putting the GREAT back in to Great Britain. He is our most popular PM in over a decade.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/12/13/decade-david-cameron/
http://aroundtheworldineightywaves.com/wp-content/uploads/union-jack.jpeg

[user104658]

I disagree with the original post. David Cameron is doing a great job of putting the GREAT back in to Great Britain.
http://aroundtheworldineightywaves.com/wp-content/uploads/union-jack.jpeg
How, exactly? I mean sweeping statements are lovely and everything but you could really do to elaborate, at least a little.

[Kizzy]

Yougov...did they ask 100 conservative voters in westminster?

[Kizzy]

How, exactly? I mean sweeping statements are lovely and everything but you could really do to elaborate, at least a little.

Merry Christmas TS, love Dave Iain & co xxx

'The Department for Work and Pensions has admitted that people will see cash losses to their in-work benefits under the new universal credit system and suggested they could make up for it by working an extra 200 hours a year.

In a new document on universal credit, published after parliament has broken up for Christmas, the department said people could “recoup the loss” caused by lower in-work benefits from April 2016 by taking on an extra three or four hours of work a week at the new “national living wage” of £7.20 an hour.'

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/21/universal-credit-benefit-cuts-work-allowance

[user104658]

Merry Christmas TS, love Dave Iain & co xxx

'The Department for Work and Pensions has admitted that people will see cash losses to their in-work benefits under the new universal credit system and suggested they could make up for it by working an extra 200 hours a year.

In a new document on universal credit, published after parliament has broken up for Christmas, the department said people could “recoup the loss” caused by lower in-work benefits from April 2016 by taking on an extra three or four hours of work a week at the new “national living wage” of £7.20 an hour.'

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/21/universal-credit-benefit-cuts-work-allowance
It's utterly bewildering that they think you can just "work more hours" and get paid for them like it's a choice. You get a job with contracted hours... You get paid for those hours... Maybe get overtime if they NEED you to work more. Who can just stroll in and say "Hey I'm going to work an extra 4 hours a week so give me money please".

They are completely disconnected from the real world. Completely.