MPs Back National Park Fracking Plans

[arista]

I hope this is OK for Kizzy?


[MPs have backed plans that will allow fracking under
national parks and areas of outstanding natural beauty.
The measures introduced by the Government mean fracking
can be carried out 1,200m below national parks,
outstanding natural beauty, world heritage sites,
the Broads and certain groundwater areas.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1606836/mps-back-national-park-fracking-plans

[bots]

they can frack off

[Crimson Dynamo]

Frack in the USSR

[Cherie]

This is the sort of thing that should go out to referendum, disgusting decision

[Nedusa]

Greedy....greedy.....greedy !!!

We can all go to hell as long as certain people money...

[lostalex]

i feel like this fracking thing is being unfairly demonized. like genetically modified food and vaccines.

The hippies are crazy.

[Livia]

People want energy but get angry at every attempt to give it to them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If we had to make national omelettes there would be an anti-cracking lobby

[arista]

People want energy but get angry at every attempt to give it to them.


Yes the Irony

[Cherie]

People want energy but get angry at every attempt to give it to them.

Not every attempt I would be happy with Wind, Solar, Water being investigated and utilised further

[Livia]

Not every attempt I would be happy with Wind, Solar, Water being investigated and utilised further

They're already being investigated and utilised further.

[Cherie]

They're already being investigated and utilised further.

Solar power grants for homeowners have been withdrawn that's hardly encouraging is it?

[Livia]

Solar power grants for homeowners have been withdrawn that's hardly encouraging is it?

Because the grants have stopped doesn't mean that solar power is unavailable. It's an investment, not sure why I as a taxpayer should be paying to reduce someone else's electricity bill.

[Cherie]

Because the grants have stopped doesn't mean that solar power is unavailable. It's an investment, not sure why I as a taxpayer should be paying to reduce someone else's electricity bill.

Yet you are happy to fill the energy company coffers :umm2:

[arista]

Solar power grants for homeowners have been withdrawn that's hardly encouraging is it?


The Markets changed all that.
It could not be helped

[JoshBB]

Fracking is not only entirely hypocritical towards our commitment to reducing emissions, but it also could result in more sinkholes, gas leaks.. environmental disasters.

I've said before that the government is happy to make profit at the lives of others, and in this case that takes an unfortunate literal truth. This could be catastrophic.

[arista]

Fracking is not only entirely hypocritical towards our commitment to reducing emissions, but it also could result in more sinkholes, gas leaks.. environmental disasters.

I've said before that the government is happy to make profit at the lives of others, and in this case that takes an unfortunate literal truth. This could be catastrophic.


Could happen - maybe

But Checks will be done

[JoshBB]

Could happen - maybe

But Checks will be done

Do you really trust the government to keep their word? Won't do a top-down reorganisation of the NHS they said.. won't privatise the NHS they said... won't try to cut tax credits they said...

[arista]

Do you really trust the government to keep their word? Won't do a top-down reorganisation of the NHS they said.. won't privatise the NHS they said... won't try to cut tax credits they said...



Yes I trust them to do more checks,
on this Project.

[lostalex]

the earth is more resourceful than these hippy environmentalists give it credit for. they really believe that humans have all the power. humans are tiny ants marching and digging around the earth, and if we go too far then maybe our anthill will collapse, but that is just another learning experience. our anthills have collapsed many times.

[bots]

If we are going to test out fracking, couldn't be a better place to test it away from population centres.

[JoshBB]

Yes I trust them to do more checks,
on this Project.

That's fine but I personally wouldn't trust the conservatives to run a sock drawer let alone properly regulate fracking..

the earth is more resourceful than these hippy environmentalists give it credit for. they really believe that humans have all the power. humans are tiny ants marching and digging around the earth, and if we go too far then maybe our anthill will collapse, but that is just another learning experience. our anthills have collapsed many times.

Our resources are depleting, and with every frack we release tons of gas into the atmosphere which we do not even harvest. It's an environmentally incompetent idea especially considering the scientific evidence of climate change.

[Cherie]

If we are going to test out fracking, couldn't be a better place to test it away from population centres.

Where will all the equipment needed go in these places of outstanding beauty? Is the infrastructure there to facilitate this. What about the wildlife :umm2:

[Livia]

Yet you are happy to fill the energy company coffers :umm2:

I buy a commodity from a company offering that commodity. If I can get it cheaper elsewhere, I will.

I'm not sure what you're even trying to say, if I'm honest. This isn't MY fault. Why should I pay for other people to get cheaper electricity?

[Cherie]

I buy a commodity from a company offering that commodity. If I can get it cheaper elsewhere, I will.

I'm not sure what you're even trying to say, if I'm honest. This isn't MY fault. Why should I pay for other people to get cheaper electricity?

My point is (until you dragged it off topic talking about your taxes) that the government have not investigated or promoted energy as much as they could have, they removed green subsidies from our energy bills in an attempt to reduce energy bills but not energy company profits they stopped grants to home owners and small businesses yet you say green energy is being utilised and investigated further. I don't know why you think it's your fault!

[Nedusa]

Why would anyone want to invest in fracking with all the potential environmental problems it brings. Bearing in mind the very low price of oil and gas and the plentiful reserves it makes no sense whatsoever to risk everything to produce even more of the stuff.

Lunacy and greed in equal measure.

[arista]

Why would anyone want to invest in fracking with all the potential environmental problems it brings. Bearing in mind the very low price of oil and gas and the plentiful reserves it makes no sense whatsoever to risk everything to produce even more of the stuff.

Lunacy and greed in equal measure.


Due to USA Fracking Revolution

[Northern Monkey]

If this was Battlestar Gallactica then that title would be very rude tbh.

[MTVN]

A good vote, well done MPs

[joeysteele]

This is the sort of thing that should go out to referendum, disgusting decision

I agree.

[lostalex]

oh please like you guys have never poured hot bacon grease down the drain. eco-warriors.

[Cherie]

Due to USA Fracking Revolution

Did they frack in the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone Park :idc:

[bots]

Did they frack in the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone Park :idc:

why do you think its the grand canyon :laugh:

[Kizzy]

I hope this is OK for Kizzy?


[MPs have backed plans that will allow fracking under
national parks and areas of outstanding natural beauty.
The measures introduced by the Government mean fracking
can be carried out 1,200m below national parks,
outstanding natural beauty, world heritage sites,
the Broads and certain groundwater areas.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1606836/mps-back-national-park-fracking-plans

No this is most definitely not ok for me, it's a fracking disaster waiting to happen :(

[Kizzy]

oh please like you guys have never poured hot bacon grease down the drain. eco-warriors.

If I even knew what bacon grease was, I don't put anything greasy down the sink though that's just common sense.

[Cherie]

why do you think its the grand canyon :laugh:

Not with you, just wondering if they carried out fracking in any of the USAs areas of natural beauty or in one of their national parks

[Cherie]

Just heard a report on the news about the slashing of feed in tariff rates for homeowners with solar panels by up to 90%, when questioned why the solar industry can't stand on its own without subsidies, the reply was that subsidies for fossil and nuclear fuel have been increased to eye watering levels, while Green Energy subsidies have been reduced the goal posts have been moved yet again for the thousands of homeowners who invested in this as a way of producing greener energy and maybe making profit, I guess it's only big business that is allowed make a profit off the back of subsidies.


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/aug/27/slashing-household-solar-subsides-kill-off-industry-government-feed-in-tariff

[bots]

Not with you, just wondering if they carried out fracking in any of the USAs areas of natural beauty or in one of their national parks

I was meaning how it became a grand canyon ... perhaps not appropriate.

I'm not a supporter of fracking, not at all. I don't feel enough is known about the potential consequences, but I would much rather it was trialled in a low population density area than one heavily populated.

[Kizzy]

New licences issued yesterday...
http://drillordrop.com/2015/12/17/whos-got-an-oil-and-gas-licence-in-your-area/

[lostalex]

If I even knew what bacon grease was, I don't put anything greasy down the sink though that's just common sense.

you've never made bacon before and had a frying pan full of liquified bacon fat left over?

[Kizzy]

you've never made bacon before and had a frying pan full of liquified bacon fat left over?

No :/ I haven't bought bacon for a long time, wouldn't buy it with fat on and wouldn't fry it either.