What Jade, Jack, Jo and Danielle did isn't that bad?

[Richie]

I don't see why such a big fuss have been created over a bit of bullying. I for one am a Shilpa fan but I hardly thing what they did is worth the hate they are all getting at the moment.

All they did was dislike another housemate. Is that really that bad?!

I just feel that what they have done isn't even that bad of a thing to do. This is getting a hell of a lot more publicity in papers and the news than murders and stuff A LOT worse that is happening.

What exactly have they done that is so bad to be hated the way they are being? Call a few names and giggle like girls. Hardly that bad is it!

*Going to get slated for having an opinion*

Opinions...?

[Psylocke]

How DARE you,
im going to slate you for having an oppinion now

[Chrizzle]

I agree. Its all over now anyway, theyve apologised. Well Jack hasn't.

[Bells]

I think it is bad thinking about the actual things they said, the context they said it in, the fact that they're on national TV , the fact that they obviously have no respect whatsoever, they're very ignorant, extremely bitchy, sheep-like and following the crowd, two-faced. I know stuff like that does happen on BB, but to me there is a limit. And all the bullies crossed that line IMO.

[jermaineordirktowin]

Basically, they shouldn't have bullied Shilpa in the first place. Go watch the times when Danielle was taking the mic out of Shilpa's voice, go watch the time when Jade had that long shouting rant at Shilpa, swearing at her and trying to put her ultimately down.

Apparantly, that Jade has a history of bullying according to Jade's gran, so it's no surprise really. Jade also buillied Sophie in BB3.

Oh and not to mention the 'f' off home' comment from Daniel which could ultimately be percieved as a racial undertone.

[Richie]

Why did nothing like this happen when the exact same thing happened last CBB?

No one gived a **** about Jodie being treated like Shilpa is being at the moment and in my opinion it was a lot worse for Jodie. Just because a lot didn't like Jodie doesn't make it right the way she was treated.

Just because Shilpa is liked that makes everyone absolutely hate the other 3 girls (oh and jack... forgot he was still there tbh). Shilpa has 4 people against her when Jodie has the whole house apart from Chantelle and Preston.

Nothing even happened about Jodie and Tracie being attacked by Pete Burns, but it's different with Jo, Jade, Danielle and Jack?

[James]

Wasn't Barrymore picked on also? I don't remember.

But it was way worse this time than anything that has gone before on Big Brother.

[Feral]

There are so many charities and schools signed up to anti-bullying contracts that maybe this is a way of showing that it is not OK to persecute another person for the way they talk, look, dress, size, age, race, etc etc.

It seems sad and depressing that this behaviour is still going on -- the odd tease and comment made in jest maybe OK if it meant not to detriment a character but this shows how some people have deep seated insecurites inside of them. Maybe it is their upbringing or standing in social circles that do this but in an ideal world we should help one another get through what is a hard and difficult life we face nowadays, whether you have money or not.

There will always be competion in the workplace, school, sports and sometimes the only way people seem to think to beat others is to bully and intimidate.

I have been fortunate in the way that I have never had any major bullying against me - just petty stuff, but if we show are own strength and confidence you can beat them. I do not have this 'victim' mentality I feel it makes them the winners if you let this behaviour get to you.

To dislike somebody you need to have good and valid reasons - the girls I feel did not, maybe Shilpa may have come across in a full of herself manner but considering her life outside of the house she has made the best of the situation and played the 'game' that is Big Brother.


Group Hug everybody!!!!!!!! :flowers:

[Jay]

Well first off all i didn't take much notice because i thought it was just bitching, but then when Danielle said the comment "she should F off home" and also when Jade started being nasty, thats when i really thought it was bullying, also it was basically 4 on 1 and Shilpa had no were to go to get away from it all, so it wasn't just girls having a bitch and a giggle it was Bullying.

[Richie]

Originally posted by James
Wasn't Barrymore picked on also? I don't remember.

But it was way worse this time than anything that has gone before on Big Brother.

No. Not at all. Barrymore was the one who was attacked Jodie the most! He's such a cock.

I don't think so. The only reason this one was worse was because of the press and news. Otherwise it was only mild bullying compared to other series.

[Bells]

They're different scenarios though, they're obviously not the exact same thing.
I could explain exactly what I feel but I think I've done it enough times.
At the end of the day, fair enough that you have your opinion, but it's evident that a lot of people felt that this time around it was worthwhile to complain etc., and what about the journalists themselves - a lot of them agree too!
Also, what's been done has been done now - in the last week I'd just like to see things settle. People who needed to have seen the show themselves and can make their own judgements. I still feel Jade isn't at all ruined, but obviously won't be accepted by the public in the same way again, and IMO deservedly so. As for Danielle, Jo and Jack - they're the ones who will have to fight their own battles when they come out.

[Chrizzle]

Whats the difference between Saskia and Makosi and Jade and Shilpa?
Nothing.

Its just the fact Shilpa has a bigger fanbase.

[Richie]

Originally posted by Jay
Well first off all i didn't take much notice because i thought it was just bitching, but then when Danielle said the comment "she should F off home" and also when Jade started being nasty, thats when i really thought it was bullying, also it was basically 4 on 1 and Shilpa had no were to go to get away from it all, so it wasn't just girls having a bitch and a giggle it was Bullying.

4 on 1? Shilpa had Jermaine, Dirk, Ian and basically the whole house backing her up.

Jodie has Chantelle. Jodie's case was a lot worse but because Shilpa is more a star it suddenly makes it a lot worse!

[Emilee]

I dont think it was as bad as they madeit out to be.

[Jay]

Originally posted by Richie
Originally posted by Jay
Well first off all i didn't take much notice because i thought it was just bitching, but then when Danielle said the comment "she should F off home" and also when Jade started being nasty, thats when i really thought it was bullying, also it was basically 4 on 1 and Shilpa had no were to go to get away from it all, so it wasn't just girls having a bitch and a giggle it was Bullying.

4 on 1? Shilpa had Jermaine, Dirk, Ian and basically the whole house backing her up.

Jodie has Chantelle. Jodie's case was a lot worse but because Shilpa is more a star it suddenly makes it a lot worse!

Yes 4 on 1, they was not bullying Ian, Dirk and Jermaine were they, they wouldn't have the guts too anyway. Anything she did wrong they made fun of it or moaned didn't do it to anyone else Just Shilpa.

[James]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
Whats the difference between Saskia and Makosi and Jade and Shilpa?


Saskia and Makosi - both sides gave as good as the got, and it wasn't two people, it was two groups of people.

Jade's clan and Shilpa - one-sided viciousness and hatred for no reason.

[Chrizzle]

Originally posted by James
Originally posted by Chrizzle
Whats the difference between Saskia and Makosi and Jade and Shilpa?


Saskia and Makosi - both sides gave as good as the got.

Jade's clan and Shilpa - one-sided viciousness and hatred for no reason. #
You said 'for no reason', maybe Jade just didnt like Shilpa. And they did have reasons, Jade said she she thought she was stuck up.

Im not sticking up for Jade, just the hype its caused is pathetic.

[Asiana]

Originally posted by Feral_One
There are so many charities and schools signed up to anti-bullying contracts that maybe this is a way of showing that it is not OK to persecute another person for the way they talk, look, dress, size, age, race, etc etc.

It seems sad and depressing that this behaviour is still going on -- the odd tease and comment made in jest maybe OK if it meant not to detriment a character but this shows how some people have deep seated insecurites inside of them. Maybe it is their upbringing or standing in social circles that do this but in an ideal world we should help one another get through what is a hard and difficult life we face nowadays, whether you have money or not.

There will always be competion in the workplace, school, sports and sometimes the only way people seem to think to beat others is to bully and intimidate.

I have been fortunate in the way that I have never had any major bullying against me - just petty stuff, but if we show are own strength and confidence you can beat them. I do not have this 'victim' mentality I feel it makes them the winners if you let this behaviour get to you.

To dislike somebody you need to have good and valid reasons - the girls I feel did not, maybe Shilpa may have come across in a full of herself manner but considering her life outside of the house she has made the best of the situation and played the 'game' that is Big Brother.


Group Hug everybody!!!!!!!! :flowers:


Well said!!!!

[Sophii3x]

'Its only a bit of bullying'

I cannot belive you just said that
Bullying is terrible whether it's serious or not

It's WRONG

[Bells]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
Originally posted by James
Originally posted by Chrizzle
Whats the difference between Saskia and Makosi and Jade and Shilpa?


Saskia and Makosi - both sides gave as good as the got.

Jade's clan and Shilpa - one-sided viciousness and hatred for no reason. #
You said 'for no reason', maybe Jade just didnt like Shilpa. And they did have reasons, Jade said she she thought she was stuck up.

Im not sticking up for Jade, just the hype its caused is pathetic.

You can't bully someone just because you think they're stuck up though.
It's all about ignorance.
Shilpa obviously has a different aura about her, she is an international celebrity at the end of the day. But she's proven my initial judgements to be completely wrong, I think she's really nice and didn't deserve what she got - not at all.

[James]

Originally posted by Sophii3x
'Its only a bit of bullying'

I cannot belive you just said that
Bullying is terrible whether it's serious or not

It's WRONG

Completely agree. It does ruin lives.

And one of the worst things about it is the bullies often never realise they are doing anything particularly wrong.

[Bells]

Originally posted by Sophii3x
'Its only a bit of bullying'

I cannot belive you just said that
Bullying is terrible whether it's serious or not

It's WRONG

I agree.
And in this case, it wasn't even 'a bit' - I thought they stepped way over the line.
So I can't understand how people can condone it.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Richie
I don't see why such a big fuss have been created over a bit of bullying. I for one am a Shilpa fan but I hardly thing what they did is worth the hate they are all getting at the moment.

All they did was dislike another housemate. Is that really that bad?!

I just feel that what they have done isn't even that bad of a thing to do. This is getting a hell of a lot more publicity in papers and the news than murders and stuff A LOT worse that is happening.

What exactly have they done that is so bad to be hated the way they are being? Call a few names and giggle like girls. Hardly that bad is it!

*Going to get slated for having an opinion*

Opinions...?

Well...I wouldn't slate you for having an opinion - but I disagree with it. They were deliberately looking for things to keep having a go at her about (like making a point of seeing how the oven works for example). They would never let anything go - I mean, the chicken for example.

And the ranting that Jade had at her was awful. Disgraceful behaviour on Jade's part - and Danielle and Jo found it hilarious, which is terrible. Danielle's words were "That's brightened my day up."

I don't believe any of them are genuinely sorry. Danielle was still finding the whole thing hilarious until BB asked her about when she said, "I think she should ****** off home." It was obvious that she was worried about how she might be appearing to the viewers, and even THAT didn't stop her bitching about Shilpa (the next day she told Shilpa that she disagreed with some of the things Jade said to Shilpa during the argument, and the two of them were chatting very civilly - until Jade walked in, and Danielle immediately got her claws out again).

The only reason they are being nicer to Shilpa now is because they have drawn their own conclusions about why there was no crowd for Jade's eviction - it must be pretty obvious that Jade is unpopular because of her behaviour in the house - and they are most likely worried that they have come across badly too.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
You said 'for no reason', maybe Jade just didnt like Shilpa. And they did have reasons, Jade said she she thought she was stuck up.

Im not sticking up for Jade, just the hype its caused is pathetic.

Whether you like someone or not is absolutely NO excuse for behaving that way to them.

[Ruth*Star]

Originally posted by Sophii3x
'Its only a bit of bullying'

I cannot belive you just said that
Bullying is terrible whether it's serious or not

It's WRONG

My thoughts exactly, bullying should'nt of happend in the first place anyways.

[James]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
You said 'for no reason', maybe Jade just didnt like Shilpa. And they did have reasons, Jade said she she thought she was stuck up.


That's just a way of Jade saying Shilpa should be bullied because Shilpa has class, diginity, self-respect and manners.

Everything Jade didn't have.

[Jay]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
Originally posted by James
Originally posted by Chrizzle
Whats the difference between Saskia and Makosi and Jade and Shilpa?


Saskia and Makosi - both sides gave as good as the got.

Jade's clan and Shilpa - one-sided viciousness and hatred for no reason. #
You said 'for no reason', maybe Jade just didnt like Shilpa. And they did have reasons, Jade said she she thought she was stuck up.

Im not sticking up for Jade, just the hype its caused is pathetic.

Shilpa isn't stuck up even if she was what gives them the right to bully her? no one deserves to be bullied for whatever reason, whats wrong with taking someone to one side and chatting to them? explaining their reasons for disliking them, instead of sitting in a group saying horrible stuff and bitchy comments about someone.

[Siouxsie]

:whistle::whistle::whistle:
YES i hate people who gang up on one person (they are not bullies but cowards)

[Bells]

Bullies simply are cowards.

[Jay]

Originally posted by Supersue
:whistle::whistle::whistle:
YES i hate people who gang up on one person (they are not bullies but cowards)

No use saying that to the danielle fans, even if she was to punch Shilpa they would say it was accidental.

[Siouxsie]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Bullies simply are cowards.


yes especially in a gang one to one they couldnt cope

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by Richie
Why did nothing like this happen when the exact same thing happened last CBB?

No one gived a **** about Jodie being treated like Shilpa is being at the moment and in my opinion it was a lot worse for Jodie. Just because a lot didn't like Jodie doesn't make it right the way she was treated.

Just because Shilpa is liked that makes everyone absolutely hate the other 3 girls (oh and jack... forgot he was still there tbh). Shilpa has 4 people against her when Jodie has the whole house apart from Chantelle and Preston.

Nothing even happened about Jodie and Tracie being attacked by Pete Burns, but it's different with Jo, Jade, Danielle and Jack?

The one thing about Jodie, she went into the house to prove people wrong and kept wailing on about how she is differently perceived by the media but all she done was justify it by talking about sex and being vile. Jodie gave as good as she got but cried on que for the sympathy.

Completley different scenario.

I don't automatically hate the other girls, i dislike them. Hate is a word that is thrown about too easily. What they said was unforgivable in my opinion but i'm willing to see how good of a housemate they become, time is a magical thing and maybe some good nature in the house from now untill they go can help to erase the bad things they have caused.

[Richie]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man
I don't automatically hate the other girls, i dislike them. Hate is a word that is thrown about too easily. What they said was unforgivable in my opinion but i'm willing to see how good of a housemate they become, time is a magical thing and maybe some good nature in the house from now untill they go can help to erase the bad things they have caused.

Unforgivable? You need to get things sorted if you can't forgive them for something as little as they have done. If you can't forgive someone that has not even done anything to you personally then that is when things get pretty sad. Jesus tells us to forgive people no matter what. If you aren't a christian then fawk off.

I hate you Tanser_Man :dazzler:

[ttw]

I don't condone Jade or co's behaviour but I see what you mean about Jodie Marsh.

People look at Jodie as a slapper with no self-respect, therefore they don't call it bullying because they feel she deserves this treatment, or that she "brought it on herself"

Grace was a bully, she may not have screamed at people in the same way Jade did, but she was much more manipulative and she knew exactly what she was doing, she lied about Sam and made a conscious effort to make sure she didn't get the blame and Sam did. She mocked Suzie and verbally abused her for no reason and through a cup of water in her face, she also called Aisleyne a wigger and a wannabe black girl, and wannable black ghetto hoochie --- But Grace was portayed as the "BB Bitch" - and although there were chants of "get Grace out" it was all done in panto, and they didn't call her a bully because she is well-spoken and well-educated, so she couldn't be a bully could she.

It is much easier for people to call Jade a bully for several reasons, she is a celebrity for one, and she is "common" so it is much easier for people to believe she is a bully and a racist.

When I see people defending Grace, but slating Jade, I think they need to look at themselves and at their own prejudices before judging others.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ttw
I don't condone Jade or co's behaviour but I see what you mean about Jodie Marsh.

People look at Jodie as a slapper with no self-respect, therefore they don't call it bullying because they feel she deserves this treatment, or that she "brought it on herself"

Grace was a bully, she may not have screamed at people in the same way Jade did, but she was much more manipulative and she knew exactly what she was doing, she lied about Sam and made a conscious effort to make sure she didn't get the blame and Sam did. She mocked Suzie and verbally abused her for no reason and through a cup of water in her face, she also called Aisleyne a wigger and a wannabe black girl, and wannable black ghetto hoochie --- But Grace was portayed as the "BB Bitch" - and although there were chants of "get Grace out" it was all done in panto, and they didn't call her a bully because she is well-spoken and well-educated, so she couldn't be a bully could she.

It is much easier for people to call Jade a bully for several reasons, she is a celebrity for one, and she is "common" so it is much easier for people to believe she is a bully and a racist.

When I see people defending Grace, but slating Jade, I think they need to look at themselves and at their own prejudices before judging others.

Both Jade and Grace are the same, in my opinion.

I can't believe Jades people saying she's being bullied by the press. Let's not lose site of the facts. She chose to enter to BB again. No one was holding her hostage in there. She said what she said she acted in the way she wanted to act and the biggest thing is that Shilpa did not do anything to deserve her treatment from. So she was by no means provoked. She is a poor example of young British women

[Liam]

big brother stirred this up something good