Its 2016 we need to Ban Smoking on the Pavement

[arista]

Unless they are 3AM shift workers etc.


There is no Need to Hang on a bus stop
Smoking like a pig



Smokers Stink
Its a Dirty deadly habit
and they will take you with them.


No this is Radical
it will take a few months to get in.

[AnnieK]

Just stop selling them...oh wait, they won't as they bring in too much tax money.

[user104658]

Just stop selling them...oh wait, they won't as they bring in too much tax money.
I'd be interested to see the figures for the last 5 or so years actually... It FEELS like a lot of people have stopped smoking? It seems like it's not actually that common any more... A lot of older people seem to have quit or at least cut back a lot, and a lot of younger people seem to be switching to vagina.

I'm not sure if I'm imagining it or if it's not as big a shift as it seems to be though. Makes me wonder if there's been an obvious drop in sales or tax revenue...

[edit] LOL! vaping, not vagina! :joker: :joker:

[arista]

Just stop selling them...oh wait, they won't as they bring in too much tax money.


No they can Smoke in their Own hone or garden


Or in a wood area away from PAVEMENTS

[Jamie89]

I don't think it really effects anyone (except the smoker)

Also, I recently quit, and I quite like walking past smokers now and feeling superior to them :hee: Don't take one of my daily joys away from me :fist:

[Jamie89]

I'd be interested to see the figures for the last 5 or so years actually... It FEELS like a lot of people have stopped smoking? It seems like it's not actually that common any more... A lot of older people seem to have quit or at least cut back a lot, and a lot of younger people seem to be switching to vagina.

I'm not sure if I'm imagining it or if it's not as big a shift as it seems to be though. Makes me wonder if there's been an obvious drop in sales or tax revenue...

[edit] LOL! vaping, not vagina! :joker: :joker:

Omg hahahaha

We're losing a lot of gays to this too

[arista]

I don't think it really effects anyone (except the smoker)

Also, I recently quit, and I quite like walking past smokers now and feeling superior to them :hee: Don't take one of my daily joys away from me :fist:



No You are Wrong
There was a Trumpet Player and Star in England
who never smoked
but all around him did

He got those Deadly Black Spots on his lung
they Killed Him


FACT

[Jamie89]

No You are Wrong
There was a Trumpet Player and Star in England
who never smoked
but all around him did

He got those Deadly Black Spots on his lung
they Killed Him


FACT

From people smoking on the pavement? :suspect:

[arista]

From people smoking on the pavement? :suspect:



no he was in a Hall
performing.,


So do not think It does not kill those around
these dirty stinking smokers


its 2016
No Smoking on English Pavements
unless you are a Before 6AM Shift workers

[bots]

Nothing wrong with smoking outdoors provided the smokers use bins for their fag ends. There is zero health risk to others out doors

[Jessica.]

I don't like when people smoke on the streets either, I don't like the smell of it and it instantly gives me a bad impression of whoever is doing it. I don't see it much in Portugal though, there are a lot of smokers here, I don't know where they smoke. :joker:

Though, there is one guy in my building who lights his cigarette while he's walking down the stairs to the exit. It really bothers me! Why does he feel entitled to do that in a shared building with lots of families. There's no insulation between the hallways and the apartments because all of the doors have a space under them. :worry:

[arista]

Nothing wrong with smoking outdoors provided the smokers use bins for their fag ends. There is zero health risk to others out doors


Depends if they are at the same Bus Stop for YEARS

[Cherie]

Nothing wrong with smoking outdoors provided the smokers use bins for their fag ends. There is zero health risk to others out doors


Depends where you are, was eating outside a restaurant in the summer and two smokers were sat next to us, the smoke kept drifting into our faces and I could smell it on my clothes afterwards :yuk:

[arista]

Depends where you are, was eating outside a restaurant in the summer and two smokers were sat next to us, the smoke kept drifting into our faces and I could smell it on my clothes afterwards :yuk:



Bang on Right Madame

[Calderyon]

I don´t mind as long as they do it in their home balcony/terrace.

[Josy]

Lets just ban everything

[MB.]

That's slightly scarier coming from admin that it would be from anyone else

[bots]

Depends where you are, was eating outside a restaurant in the summer and two smokers were sat next to us, the smoke kept drifting into our faces and I could smell it on my clothes afterwards :yuk:

Well, you can change your clothes from time to time you know :laugh:

[arista]

Lets just ban everything


No Josy
we are not banning everything
thats absurd

[Kizzy]

Not bothered about all the noxious toxic gasses polluting the air whilst fracking Arista?
Is the recent smog, air quality that makes it actually dangerous for asthmatics to walk around in down to smokers?...

[Northern Monkey]

I'd be interested to see the figures for the last 5 or so years actually... It FEELS like a lot of people have stopped smoking? It seems like it's not actually that common any more... A lot of older people seem to have quit or at least cut back a lot, and a lot of younger people seem to be switching to vagina.

I'm not sure if I'm imagining it or if it's not as big a shift as it seems to be though. Makes me wonder if there's been an obvious drop in sales or tax revenue...

[edit] LOL! vaping, not vagina! :joker: :joker:Haha!

Yes i see nowhere near as many smokers these days.Everyones vaping.I've vaped for about 3-4 years.It's better than any gum or patches.It is very addictive though:laugh:
My lungs feel so much clearer though.No more coughing at night in bed and stinking like a fag.

[arista]

Not bothered about all the noxious toxic gasses polluting the air whilst fracking Arista?
Is the recent smog, air quality that makes it actually dangerous for asthmatics to walk around in down to smokers?...


Yes if there is proof
from a Proper news site.
they will stop.

But fracking is still to be Done,

Stinking Dirty Smokers
are still about and smoking in a Bus Shelter
even though there is a sign saying NO Smoking


Ban Smokers From English Streets
Better for Our Children

[Northern Monkey]

No You are Wrong
There was a Trumpet Player and Star in England
who never smoked
but all around him did

He got those Deadly Black Spots on his lung
they Killed Him


FACT
Roy Castle?I believe he got lung cancer from passive smoking.That was from indoors though,Clubs mainly.

[arista]

Roy Castle?I believe he got lung cancer from passive smoking.That was from indoors though,Clubs mainly.



Yes but that other poster said It does not happen
So only a Example
to Correct Jamie.

Jamie said on this thread:
{I don't think it really effects anyone (except the smoker) }


I am Sick of posters
not knowing what the facts are
thats all.


Sign Of The Times

[Cherie]

Well, you can change your clothes from time to time you know :laugh:

I didn't have a change of clothes with me, I'll be sure to take one out with me next time :tongue:

[Kizzy]

Haha!

Yes i see nowhere near as many smokers these days.Everyones vaping.I've vaped for about 3-4 years.It's better than any gum or patches.It is very addictive though:laugh:
My lungs feel so much clearer though.No more coughing at night in bed and stinking like a fag.

Vaping is as bad... Don't want my clothes stinking of oily dolly mixtures ta :idc:

[Northern Monkey]

Vaping is as bad... Don't want my clothes stinking of oily dolly mixtures ta :idc:

Vaping is nowhere near as bad.At all.The odour does'nt stay in your clothes or hair for a start.

[Kizzy]

Vaping is nowhere near as bad.At all.The odour does'nt stay in your clothes or hair for a start.

You must just not notice it.

[arista]

Vaping is nowhere near as bad.At all.The odour does'nt stay in your clothes or hair for a start.


Yes not as bad
as Raw Stinking Smokers

[joeysteele]

Nothing wrong with smoking outdoors provided the smokers use bins for their fag ends. There is zero health risk to others out doors

I have said this many times on here, I have never smoked and will not but they pay vast taxes for their smoking needs and I see no reason at all to stop people smoking in open spaces.
Either have the courage to make buying cigarettes, cigars and tobacco illegal or stop persecuting further those who choose to do so.

[Jamie89]

Yes but that other poster said It does not happen
So only a Example
to Correct Jamie.

Jamie said on this thread:
{I don't think it really effects anyone (except the smoker) }


I am Sick of posters
not knowing what the facts are
thats all.


Sign Of The Times

Er what lol?! I said that, quite clearly, in response to you talking about people smoking outside (which is what the thread is about). I never suggested anything about smoking indoors being ok, so your facts about Roy Castle were completely irrelevant, and didn't "correct" what I was saying at all. Which I was quite happy to leave as it was, but don't bring me back up because you're being called out on your irrelevant example as if I'm somehow to blame for you getting something wrong, and don't tell me I don't know what the facts are when I haven't stated anything that is untrue :nono:

[arista]

"I haven't stated anything that is untrue"

Ok Jamie
sorry

[Jamie89]

"I haven't stated anything that is untrue"

Ok Jamie
sorry

Accepted, thank you :love:

[Glenn.]

Leave us smokers alone. We've already been tossed outside of pubs and restaurants.

[GiRTh]

More police state bull**** from the brain of Arista.

BTW Roy Castle died after about thirty years of inhaling smoke in music halls where people were allowed to smoke so there is no argument that passive smoke - especially outside - is all that dangerous to others. Something that takes decades to kill cant be all that dangerous.

[Jamie89]

Leave us smokers alone. We've already been tossed outside of pubs and restaurants.

No one needs to know the sordid details of your person life :nono:

:laugh:

[Niamh.]

That's slightly scarier coming from admin that it would be from anyone else


:laugh2:

But yeah seriously where do you draw the line? Ban people from wearing too much cheap perfume in public? Nanny state

[King Gizzard]

arista 2020

[Northern Monkey]

No one needs to know the sordid details of your person life :nono:

:laugh:

Beat me :laugh:

[Kizzy]

*was going to put that's what she said, realise s how inappropriate it would be. *

[arista]

Leave us smokers alone. We've already been tossed outside of pubs and restaurants.


Fella
I am leaving you alone
I never enter Your Garden to Stop You Smoking.


And you Are Not Tossed outside
Its the LAW

[arista]

No Girth.

These are Future Plans
I am connected now.


Once I come back from China Visit
I can get more done.

I wish you could come with me , Girth
as China is 1,000 more Tougher than this nation

[jennyjuniper]

No Girth.

These are Future Plans
I am connected now.


Once I come back from China Visit
I can get more done.

I wish you could come with me , Girth
as China is 1,000 more Tougher than this nation

Then stay there and try to impose your Orwellian views on them (Good luck with that)

[arista]

Then stay there and try to impose your Orwellian views on them (Good luck with that)



No My Co -Manager is out there
Right now.


I want Robots for the Old Folks on a Council Lease
so they never own them.

But old folks get someone to talk to.

[Glenn.]

Fella
I am leaving you alone
I never enter Your Garden to Stop You Smoking.


And you Are Not Tossed outside
Its the LAW

Law or not we were still tossed out of pubs and restaurants.

[arista]

Law or not we were still tossed out of pubs and restaurants.


How Nice

[joeysteele]

Law or not we were still tossed out of pubs and restaurants.

Which I think was wrong. Smoking has never bothered me although I don't smoke myself, I never had any issue with anyone having a cigarette in a pub or restaurant.
In fact I quite like the aroma of someone smoking.

It really annoys me the way smokers get put down, when they pay massive taxes on the product they buy and the treasury would be sunk if everyone stopped smoking.
Hence their cowardly raising more and more from it and never making it illegal to smoke.

Smokers also pay council tax and therefore have every right to be doing so in public areas.
I was walking out before Christmas and saw a Parent allow their child to wee against a bus stop, just across the road from the bus stop is a supermarket with toilets in it, I found that far more offensive than anyone smoking a cigarette in the open air.

[arista]

"Which I think was wrong. Smoking has never bothered me although I don't smoke myself"


Thats Fine
Joey

But let me Tell you things are changing Fast
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294253

Now the Old Folks can Moan
at their new Robot.

That data is sent to the Government

So all his Moans are Logged in.

Evolution Is Here.

[Kizzy]

Even when I smoked I hated it in cafes, I thought it was rude to smoke where people ate.

[Northern Monkey]

*was going to put that's what she said, realise s how inappropriate it would be. *

Ha!Only just got that.

[Niamh.]

Even when I smoked I hated it in cafes, I thought it was rude to smoke where people ate.

Yeah same, I wasn't bothered about the ban in bars or restaurants but banning smoking outside isn't on imo

[arista]

Even when I smoked I hated it in cafes, I thought it was rude to smoke where people ate.


Bang On Right
Kizzy

[kirklancaster]

I have said this many times on here, I have never smoked and will not but they pay vast taxes for their smoking needs and I see no reason at all to stop people smoking in open spaces.
Either have the courage to make buying cigarettes, cigars and tobacco illegal or stop persecuting further those who choose to do so.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Superbly put.

My generation started smoking in the first place because it was the 'social norm' and was deemed 'cool' thanks to massive conditioning via glossy advertising on hoardings, in magazines and newspapers, adverts on TV and in cinemas, and even thanks, in no little part, to most of the top film and TV stars - male AND female - smoking in films and in TV programs.

Various UK Government policy regarding smoking is, and always has been - as you so rightly intimate - disgustingly hypocritical.

It was not that long ago, that pubs and clubs had 'Public Bars', 'Snugs', 'Concert Rooms' AND 'Smoking Rooms' - a system which worked admirably well, with no one who did not smoke being forced to sufferer 'second-hand' smoke and all its undoubted health risks and unpleasantness, yet no smoker was made to feel like a criminal and forced to smoke outside in all weathers.

You are absolutely correct again Joey.

[Niamh.]

[/B]
:clap1::clap1::clap1: Superbly put.

My generation started smoking in the first place because it was the 'social norm' and was deemed 'cool' thanks to massive conditioning via glossy advertising on hoardings, in magazines and newspapers, adverts on TV and in cinemas, and even thanks, in no little part, to most of the top film and TV stars - male AND female - smoking in films and in TV programs.

Various UK Government policy regarding smoking is, and always has been - as you so rightly intimate - disgustingly hypocritical.

It was not that long ago, that pubs and clubs had 'Public Bars', 'Snugs', 'Concert Rooms' AND 'Smoking Rooms' - a system which worked admirably well, with no one who did not smoke being forced to sufferer 'second-hand' smoke and all its undoubted health risks and unpleasantness, yet no smoker was made to feel like a criminal and forced to smoke outside in all weathers.

You are absolutely correct again Joey.

Over here most bars have "smoking rooms" which are semi outdoor, though alot of them really are borderline "outdoor" lol and you know what? a massive amount of non smokers end up there with their buddies anyway :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Over here most bars have "smoking rooms" which are semi outdoor, though alot of them really are borderline "outdoor" lol and you know what? a massive amount of non smokers end up there with their buddies anyway :laugh:

:laugh: It's the same over here Niamh from what I've witnessed.

[Kazanne]

So what about all the emissions from cars etc,surely that is just as damaging to health?

[Niamh.]

So what about all the emissions from cars etc,surely that is just as damaging to health?

ikr? because all these people crying out for smokers to be banned would cry if they were told they had to walk or cycle everywhere from now on :idc:

[bots]

ikr? because all these people crying out for smokers to be banned would cry if they were told they had to walk or cycle everywhere from now on :idc:

Robots will be a huge source of pollution too :nono:

[joeysteele]

So what about all the emissions from cars etc,surely that is just as damaging to health?

Absolutely right and just perhaps even moreso.

[Kazanne]

Absolutely right and just perhaps even moreso.

I would say a lot moreso Joey when you consider the amount of cars on the road, I am an ex smoker , I gave up 11 years ago now , but if people want to smoke that is up to them , and if they are smoking outside ,I see no problem as while we have cars , lorries etc , we wont be any healthier.

[joeysteele]

I would say a lot moreso Joey when you consider the amount of cars on the road, I am an ex smoker , I gave up 11 years ago now , but if people want to smoke that is up to them , and if they are smoking outside ,I see no problem as while we have cars , lorries etc , we wont be any healthier.

Exactly. and as you say if people still want to smoke so what.
Surely a public place is a public place and as long as nothing illegal is being done, why any need for extra laws,especially ones that would prohibit an actual legal act anyway.

[arista]

So what about all the emissions from cars etc,surely that is just as damaging to health?


No as that is changing
all the time.

To Cleaner Fuel
& Electric.Hybrid Buses

But Stinking Smokers under Bus Shelters
even though it says NO

[joeysteele]

No as that is changing
all the time.

To Cleaner Fuel
& Electric.Hybrid Buses

But Stinking Smokers under Bus Shelters
even though it says NO



Under bus shelters that usually are open at the bottom of them and then have 2 sides open as well.
However what a stupid rule anyway, since just take 2 steps outside the bus shelter and its legal to smoke there, as if the smoke couldn't possibly find its way under the bottom or the open sides.

Ridiculous and the nanny state gone mad in my view.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The reason smoking exists is to do with the fact that sub 40 humans have little concept of mortality so they can smoke like pigs and dont care

by the time they get to 40 and start to realise they will die its too late


Thus it must be banned outright

[Northern Monkey]

Eventually it will be banned,Just not for a while.It's already being slowly phased out with the messages on packets,ciggies being hidden behind doors in shops,banned in public buildings etc.The state are just slowly grooming people into acceptance of banning it.Smokers are slowly becoming a minority.It will take a few generations but it will happen when so little people smoke that it's not profitable for the country.
Of course they will never stop people smoking as they will just get them on the black market but as companies stop making them then quality will go down.
Personally i'm all for people to make their own choices in life.Cigs are more dangerous than many drugs.If we are going to keep ciggies legal then we should just make all drugs legal.It is hypocritical to let people take one or two lethal drugs but not others.

[arista]

The reason smoking exists is to do with the fact that sub 40 humans have little concept of mortality so they can smoke like pigs and dont care

by the time they get to 40 and start to realise they will die its too late


Thus it must be banned outright


Bang On Right LT

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bang On Right LT

sadly i think all our mods and admin are smokers


its a disgrace:nono: