Winston vs Katie Hopkins

[ThriceShy]

Funny how one is treated like that for a single opinion and the other was feted as a legend because of her constant barrage of vile views.

Wonder if it is anything to do with one of them being a black man?

[reece(:]

Good lord the reaches are achieving new heights tonight.

Anymore "cards" you wish to throw out?

[Iceman]

Nope just his homophobic views. Nothing to do with the with his skin colour.

[ThriceShy]

Nope just his homophobic views. Nothing to do with the with his skin colour.

Whose views did you think were worse? Winston's or Hopkin's?

[MB.]

:umm2:

Swiftly moving on from that second point... I certainly never feted Katie Hopkins as anything and think she's a disgraceful human being. But at least she made a convincing job of not looking homophobic (until, y'know, she didn't)

[Pete.]

Katie was a pantomime villain, Winston was just the worst

[JoshBB]

:laugh2:

For the record, I hate both. (and im pretty sure most people on here, if they hated one then they also hate the other)

[Jarrod]

Whose views did you think were worse? Winston's or Hopkin's?

Winston because from what I recall, Hopkins hasn't said that wanting to adopt a child if you're gay is abuse.

[Vicky.]

Hopkins was loved despite her constant vile comments

Winston says a couple of homophobic things and is the devil.

Its odd. Though I don't think its anything to do with colour.

[zakman440]

Not really, they were both ****ing awful.

[Moosething]

It's a facade with Hopkins

[Oliver_W]

When she's not talking about children's names, she at least backs up her views. She says basically "I think this, because this and that." Even if you disagree, you can see her thought process.

Winston was just gibbering and hiding behind his religion.

[Lostie!]

Well I can't speak for anyone else but I dislike both. I actually think I dislike Gruntilda Slopkins MORE since she even sees fit to mock seriously ill people online.

[Iceman]

Whose views did you think were worse? Winston's or Hopkin's?

Winstons. I never listened to what that other twat said because she said it for a reaction.

[ThriceShy]

Winston because from what I recall, Hopkins hasn't said that wanting to adopt a child if you're gay is abuse.


No, she has said worse:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/big-brother/11332631/Katie-Hopkins-most-offensive-quotes.html

[EspeonBB]

Bigot vs. bigot

Both are losers

[Oliver_W]

No, she has said worse:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/big-brother/11332631/Katie-Hopkins-most-offensive-quotes.html

Which of them do you think is worse? :s

[reece(:]

No, she has said worse:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/big-brother/11332631/Katie-Hopkins-most-offensive-quotes.html
Who cares?

[FacelessME]

Funny how one is treated like that for a single opinion and the other was feted as a legend because of her constant barrage of vile views.

Wonder if it is anything to do with one of them being a black man?

I don't take the man seriously. He's a fool. Katie Hopkins is a venomous hateful bitch whist Winston is just a clown. The difference between the two is vast. There is no malice in what he's saying at all. However, why he's getting more flack for his views then Hopkins has nothing to do with the fact he's black and IS to do with the fact in this country, people make a bigger fuss over homophobic comments more so then if people where express racist views for example. If Katie Hopkins had said the same hollow BS Winston had said, she'll be treated the same way.

[ThriceShy]

I don't take the man seriously. He's a fool. Katie Hopkins is a venomous hateful bitch whist Winston is just a clown. The difference between the two is vast. There is no malice in what he's saying at all. However, why he's getting more flack for his views then Hopkins has nothing to do with the fact he's black and IS to do with the fact in this country, people make a bigger fuss over homophobic comments more so then if people where express racist views for example. If Katie Hopkins had said the same hollow BS Winston had said, she'll be treated the same way.


Hopkins has said all sorts about muslims. Nobody cares because she is a white woman.

[FacelessME]

Hopkins has said all sorts about muslims. Nobody cares because she is a white woman.

Really? First I've heard of it. I don't pay attention to her. And I'm sorry I do not agree about what you're saying because she's white.

People like to pretend racism isn't happening;

It doesn't effect me, I'm not in that demographic, so I'll dismiss it and get on with my life
It makes me uncomfortable, I rather ignore it and not have an opinion
I simply don't give a ****
I agree with everything you're saying


Like I said, people don't get het-up over racist comments as much. Its not because she's white, its because either people cower, or they don't give a **** or they agree with her.

[ScottyT]

It's a facade with Hopkins

To an extent I agree. Hopkins knows these 'views' are her job. Without controversy nobody cares about her, which means no publicity, and no money/job.

Winston genuinely holds these views - if anything, so far he has been the only genuine person in the house. Even if it's at the expense of people knowing he's homophobic.

[AnnieK]

Winston because from what I recall, Hopkins hasn't said that wanting to adopt a child if you're gay is abuse.

No...she just said ginger kids were harder to love...pretty much equal (if you're ginger or have a ginger child....of which I'm both). Both as equally vile as each other. Hopkins was almost vindicating the abuse that ginger kids already suffer.

[Jamie89]

This is a Celebrity Deathmatch I'd like to see :clap2:

[AnnieK]

This is a Celebrity Deathmatch I'd like to see :clap2:

:clap2:

[AnnieK]

Who cares?

Probably no one until the poison she spills affects them personally...then they may realise that people do actually read that **** and repeat it

[GoldHeart]

:umm2:

Swiftly moving on from that second point... I certainly never feted Katie Hopkins as anything and think she's a disgraceful human being. But at least she made a convincing job of not looking homophobic (until, y'know, she didn't)

But Katie Hopkins is racist and she openly supports Donald trump and she's written all kinds of nasty things . It baffled the mind how anyone can find this ugly bitch entertaining
And I heard when she was in the bb house she insulted a nolan sister's weight
And even when collen told her that her sister had had cancer and other health problems the heartless scumbag didn't even bother to apologise so how can anyone be worst than her ????

[Lstan]

Funny how one is treated like that for a single opinion and the other was feted as a legend because of her constant barrage of vile views.

Wonder if it is anything to do with one of them being a black man?


While hopkins does have her supporters on here there are a few of us who dislike her for the same reasons we dislike winston.

Whose views did you think were worse? Winston's or Hopkin's?

Imo hopkins because i know what she has said before shes gone in the house. winston i dont know, but he is a member of UKIP, so i imagine he may be just as bad


It's a facade with Hopkins

And? How does that make it better? Surely its worse if she is peddling hatred to get paid.

Well I can't speak for anyone else but I dislike both. I actually think I dislike Gruntilda Slopkins MORE since she even sees fit to mock seriously ill people online.

Totally with you Lostie

But Katie Hopkins is racist and she openly supports Donald trump and she's written all kinds of nasty things . It baffled the mind how anyone can find this ugly bitch entertaining
And I heard when she was in the bb house she insulted a nolan sister's weight
And even when collen told her that her sister had had cancer and other health problems the heartless scumbag didn't even bother to apologise so how can anyone be worst than her ????

Me too hon, me too!

[Tom4784]

They're both hateful twats.

[Lostie!]

Hopkins has said all sorts about muslims. Nobody cares because she is a white woman.

Um, I can assure you plenty of us do.

[Jason.]

Both utterly dreadful housemates and human beings. I'd probably lean with Winston being worse because he actually believes his own views, whereas Katie Hopkins is just a rent-a-gob troll who says these "outrageous" things for attention and recognition.

[Jason.]

Actually they're both as bad as each other.

[Lostie!]

Both utterly dreadful housemates and human beings. I'd probably lean with Winston being worse because he actually believes his own views, whereas Katie Hopkins is just a rent-a-gob troll who says these "outrageous" things for attention and recognition.

I think that makes her worse, actually. It's one thing to go around offending people because you hold stone age views but it's another to go around offending people just for the sake of doing it.

[Jason.]

I think that makes her worse, actually. It's one thing to go around offending people because you hold stone age views but it's another to go around offending people just for the sake of doing it.

You do make a convincing point, come to think of it (or maybe I'm just being manipulated) :think:

Also Winston's crime is only being homophobic, whereas KH is racist, sexist, makes fun of people/children with deadly illnesses, and just makes insensitive tweets.

Ah **** it, they're both as awful as eachother. It's a shame one of them was hated for it whereas the other one was loved. :rolleyes:

[Ross.]

I think that makes her worse, actually. It's one thing to go around offending people because you hold stone age views but it's another to go around offending people just for the sake of doing it.

Very true actually

[Jason.]

Not Lostie making us change our thoughts

[Jason.]

I actually also think Jim Davidson is worse than Winston and he won the ****ing show.

[Tarryn]

If they ever come up with "Celebrity Volcano Bungee Jumping" then I'm pretty sure BB can provide a lot of ex-HM's for this.
Hopkins can go first.

[Jake.]

I think that makes her worse, actually. It's one thing to go around offending people because you hold stone age views but it's another to go around offending people just for the sake of doing it.

this is actually very true but "freedom of speech" and "telling it like it is" and all that

[Kizzy]

She did have some odd views initially but they were all quite generalised, baby names, being overweight, practical parenthood... And then things took a darker turn, the 'cockroach' comments were the turning point for me as were Winstons 'abuse' accusation for gay parents.
Opinions are one thing and they are great yet when they seek to malign, marginalise and dehumanise it's ok to say no they're not the views I wish to see in the mainstream media and classed as light entertainment.
I would go so far as to say it was a distinct politicised regressive strategy.

[GoldHeart]

I think that makes her worse, actually. It's one thing to go around offending people because you hold stone age views but it's another to go around offending people just for the sake of doing it.

And yet the bitch made it to the end
So look at what message that sends out
How could people support her it's as if we're in a mental asylum and its a terrible message for youngsters growing seeing that gargoyle as a role model
She's one of the worst people around and its no surprises she likes Jim Davidson because they're both scumbags and are made for each other

[Lostie!]

She did have some odd views initially but they were all quite generalised, baby names, being overweight, practical parenthood... And then things took a darker turn, the 'cockroach' comments were the turning point for me as were Winstons 'abuse' accusation for gay parents.
Opinions are one thing and they are great yet when they seek to malign, marginalise and dehumanise it's ok to say no they're not the views I wish to see in the mainstream media and classed as light entertainment.
I would go so far as to say it was a distinct politicised regressive strategy.

100% agree with this. :clap1: