Winston feels he was "stitched up" by the women

[Jake.]

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebrity-big-brother/news/a779389/celebrity-big-brother-winston-felt-he-was-stitched-up-by-the-women-in-the-house/

(can't copy/paste the article atm my ipads being a dick)

[chuff me dizzy]

Winston was stitched up full stop

[Tom4784]

He's a repulsive beast that's really completely narcissistic to think that the women dressed how they dressed for him. He's desperately trying to justify his behavior by spewing out the most hateful and cliched excuses in the book.

[sampvt]

No matter how bad he is or acted, he didn't deserve to be stitched up like that by so called impartial people. He was done up like a kipper.

[Tom4784]

No matter how bad he is or acted, he didn't deserve to be stitched up like that by so called impartial people. He was done up like a kipper.

It's no one's fault but his own.

[bots]

It's no one's fault but his own.

that's just not true. I don't like the guy, don't agree with his views, but he is entitled to voice them without being victimised, hounded and persecuted.

Not nice terms are they? but they are all true.

[MrWong]

https://odjechani.com.pl/images/smilies/wykop.gif Keep digging Winston.

[sampvt]

It's no one's fault but his own.

Dezzy you are not Emma and I am not Winston, please let it go. We are all entitled to our opinions and to supress them is wrong.

[Tom4784]

that's just not true. I don't like the guy, don't agree with his views, but he is entitled to voice them without being victimised, hounded and persecuted.

Not nice terms are they? but they are all true.

None of those things applied to him, opinions are a two way street Sam, he can't expect to have extreme opinions and expect people to be supportive. He hasn't been victimised or hounded or persecuted.

He said awful things and then he tried to shirk the responsibility of saying them. It's his own fault.

[Tom4784]

Dezzy you are not Emma and I am not Winston, please let it go. We are all entitled to our opinions and to supress them is wrong.

No one is suppressing Winston ffs.

Like I just said, opinions are a two way street, by not respecting that you are the one trying to suppress people's opinions on Winston.

[bots]

None of those things applied to him, opinions are a two way street Sam, he can't expect to have extreme opinions and expect people to be supportive. He hasn't been victimised or hounded or persecuted.

He said awful things and then he tried to shirk the responsibility of saying them. It's his own fault.

He did nothing wrong in expressing those views. He has been publicly vilified for sport by producers that set it up, something that was not his own fault.

[Tom4784]

He did nothing wrong in expressing those views. He has been publicly vilified for sport by producers that set it up, something that was not his own fault.

Not at all. If you express extreme views then you must be prepared to receive unfavorable reactions. He could have handled that task better by being direct when people questioned him but instead he dodged every question instead of clarifying his position and he did the same in the interview because he knows what he is.

[waterhog]

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebrity-big-brother/news/a779389/celebrity-big-brother-winston-felt-he-was-stitched-up-by-the-women-in-the-house/

(can't copy/paste the article atm my ipads being a dick)



who is Winston - sorry yesturdays news - gone and forgot.

[bots]

Not at all. If you express extreme views then you must be prepared to receive unfavorable reactions. He could have handled that task better by being direct when people questioned him but instead he dodged every question instead of clarifying his position and he did the same in the interview because he knows what he is.

Are you honestly saying you don't think he was set up by producers? I find that hard to believe. There is absolutely nothing wrong in opposing his views, I would do that with gusto, but I would never manufacture a situation that had at its heart the intention to humiliate and publicly vilify another human being. That is too much for me, and I'm proud to say it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He was brought in

set up

and crucified

[Tom4784]

Are you honestly saying you don't think he was set up by producers? I find that hard to believe. There is absolutely nothing wrong in opposing his views, I would do that with gusto, but I would never manufacture a situation that had at its heart the intention to humiliate and publicly vilify another human being. That is too much for me, and I'm proud to say it.

He knew what he was getting into and why he had been offered a place on the show and that's apparent by his VT. That task wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did if he simply clarified his view on the matter but instead he dodged all questions regarding it, he chose to be evasive and he chose to go on CBB despite knowing that he'd obviously be set up because his homophobia is the only reason why anyone knows who he is.

[Kazanne]

that's just not true. I don't like the guy, don't agree with his views, but he is entitled to voice them without being victimised, hounded and persecuted.

Not nice terms are they? but they are all true.

Exactly ,my view too,such double standards with people ,look how people take the pee out of fat and ugly people,is that acceptable? seems so, but why is that any different than Winston and his views on gay people ?

[arista]

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebrity-big-brother/news/a779389/celebrity-big-brother-winston-felt-he-was-stitched-up-by-the-women-in-the-house/

(can't copy/paste the article atm my ipads being a dick)


Thank you Jake
as you made the Effort to give us a Link
you are now a Top Member


I can check your threads get a fast update
then go back to China Skype
to find out Robots are working even Better

Now
Will , the younger new lad
does not bother with links
he is still learning.

bless him

Feel The Force

[chuff me dizzy]

Sarah-jane Barrow
Sarah-jane Barrow Big Brother is vile causing a witch hunt! I don't agree with Winston's views and also disgusted with Big Brothers stirring!!! Shame on you Emma and Ryland!
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Jan Anson What made me uncomfortable was the end part where rylan went all camp on winston when he was in the dentist chair, that looked horrible and I came down on Winstons side. I don't agree with what winston says, but I think he has the right to say them as...See More
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Dawn Brook
Dawn Brook It was terrible tv both Emma and Rylan kept on about same thing and couldn't move on
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Howard Clevenger
Howard Clevenger I feel so bad for they way they treated that old bigot who once dressed up like a pimp and made all the women feel uncomfortable while blaming them for walking around in their pajamas. Yeah,my heart aches for that tired old Hateful Nazi!
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Kate Haycock
Kate Haycock at the end of bit on the side last night rylan was making me feel uncomfortable trying to rub winston up. i dont agree with winston but think that rylan went to far....
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Linda Wrafter
Linda Wrafter TOTALLY agree ,Emma and Rylan overstepped the mark ,Winston has a right to his views as does anyone ,BB producers stitched Winston up with the task
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Maureen Baldie
Maureen Baldie Emma just went way down in my estimation.thought interview was about time in the house.not something he has said before he went in. Disgraceful interview, she was like a dog with a bone. If I was his agent I would be raging. Total fix. The reason he was in there was to shock the public with his comment. think the public is more shocked at BB for setting him up. I dont like the man, dont agree with what he said but nor to i agree to public flogging for voicing an opinion. Cringe!
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Sara Tonin
Sara Tonin SHAME ON YOU cbb!! YOU WELL SET WINSTON UP DIDNT YOU? DID YOU THINK WE WOULDNT NOTICE?
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Wayne Mandingo Kerr
Wayne Mandingo Kerr Even those I don't agree with Winstons views Big Brother have shown themselves to be the biggest bigots and imo racist with complete double standards.
Firstly Katie Hopkins has expressed equally despicable views as Winston yet she was never pulled up or made to be shamed by Big Brother.
I also know Danny from last year sent some horrific tweets but BB barely

[chuff me dizzy]

It seems the public agree ^^^^^^^^^

[arista]

He was brought in

set up

and crucified



Yes Live on Ch5HD saturday show
that Asian Eastender had a go at him
camera moved over to the Juicer bloke


She objected to his Views
no need to object to his views,
ignore them

........ talk about tiffany getting warm on his cock



We are a Democracy

Not Nazi

[sampvt]

I cant believe that in our so called modern society that anyone is allowed to crucify one person for a political aim and get away with it. CBB COLLECTIVLY crucified Winston in order to gain ratings and to promote personal views. If it happened the other way round it would hit OFCOM like a rocket.

[Tom4784]

Exactly ,my view too,such double standards with people ,look how people take the pee out of fat and ugly people,is that acceptable? seems so, but why is that any different than Winston and his views on gay people ?

Umm, everything?

The former is bullying, the latter is people reacting to a bigot's views which he chose to air. If you can't tell the difference between the two then I worry for you.

[MrWong]

It seems the public agree ^^^^^^^^^

A few cat ladies on Facebook do not represent the public.

[chuff me dizzy]

I cant believe that in our so called modern society that anyone is allowed to crucify one person for a political aim and get away with it. CBB COLLECTIVLY crucified Winston in order to gain ratings and to promote personal views. If it happened the other way round it would hit OFCOM like a rocket.

:worship:

[chuff me dizzy]

A few cat ladies on Facebook do not represent the public.

Go look for yourself ,you will find the vast majority on Facebook are disgusted

[MrWong]

I cant believe that in our so called modern society that anyone is allowed to crucify one person for a political aim and get away with it. CBB COLLECTIVLY crucified Winston in order to gain ratings and to promote personal views. If it happened the other way round it would hit OFCOM like a rocket.

What political aim is that?

I thought he was crucified for saying gay adoption is akin to child abuse.

[chuff me dizzy]

What political aim is that?

I thought he was crucified for saying gay adoption is akin to child abuse.

John Wallbank Big Brother set Winston up to leave by airing his comments.
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Michelle Mccormack
Michelle Mccormack They completely stitched him up ....big brother should have been fair....I love Emma but this is not a good interview
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Notice the 559 Likes ????????

[MrWong]

John Wallbank Big Brother set Winston up to leave by airing his comments.
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Michelle Mccormack
Michelle Mccormack They completely stitched him up ....big brother should have been fair....I love Emma but this is not a good interview
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Notice the 559 Likes ????????

I notice those that are sticking up for Winston ignore what he's actually being crucified for. That he thinks gay adoption is akin to child abuse.

The producers setting him up is a separate issue but is being used to divert attention from Winstons pig ignorant views.

[sampvt]

I notice those that are sticking up for Winston ignore what he's actually being crucified for. That he thinks gay adoption is akin to child abuse.

The producers setting him up is a separate issue but is being used to divert attention from Winstons pig ignorant views.

It was the tabloids that used those exact words, he simply said he didn't agree with it, the scam reporters did the rest.

[bots]

I notice those that are sticking up for Winston ignore what he's actually being crucified for. That he thinks gay adoption is akin to child abuse.

The producers setting him up is a separate issue but is being used to divert attention from Winstons pig ignorant views.

I can only speak for myself and I have been saying he is entitled to state those views even if I don't agree with him, so no diversion coming from me. So I am not ignoring his views.

The producers setting him up is my main gripe, because it WAS a premeditated set up with the express intention of publicly vilifying him

[MrWong]

It was the tabloids that used those exact words, he simply said he didn't agree with it, the scam reporters did the rest.

You missed the part where he admitted he said that? Best you rewatch because his clarification is the reason most of the house turned against him.

[Tom4784]

It was the tabloids that used those exact words, he simply said he didn't agree with it, the scam reporters did the rest.

If that's the case then why didn't he deny what was said? Why hasn't he sued the publication for defamation and Libel? It's because he most likely said those exact words which is why he's evasive when it's bought up.

[MrWong]

If that's the case then why didn't he deny what was said? Why hasn't he sued the publication for defamation and Libel? It's because he most likely said those exact words which is why he's evasive when it's bought up.

He admitted to Gemma that he said those words.

[Lstan]

What political aim is that?

I thought he was crucified for saying gay adoption is akin to child abuse.

This is what i thought, i dont see what this has to do with any of the women in the house. If he thinks they stitched him up hes an even bigger idiot then hes letting on.

[sampvt]

If that's the case then why didn't he deny what was said? Why hasn't he sued the publication for defamation and Libel? It's because he most likely said those exact words which is why he's evasive when it's bought up.

Reaching

[Jack_]

A few cat ladies on Facebook do not represent the public.

Beat me to it. I don't know how many times this has to be said before people stop using Facebook as a means of gauging public opinion :shrug:

It's exactly the same as if someone tried to make out the forums are representative of the overall public. We aren't, and nor are the Facebook cat ladies

[chuff me dizzy]

Beat me to it. I don't know how many times this has to be said before people stop using Facebook as a means of gauging public opinion :shrug:

It's exactly the same as if someone tried to make out the forums are representative of the overall public. We aren't, and nor are the Facebook cat ladies

So you choose to ignore 559 likes on a post because it suits your agenda?

[Tom4784]

So you choose to ignore 559 likes on a post because it suits your agenda?

I'm guessing if I was to look on the BB page I'd see a lot more messages hating on Winston then I'd see of people supporting him, if that's the case then you've chosen to ignore that to focus on the few posts that match your own agenda.

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm guessing if I was to look on the BB page I'd see a lot more messages hating on Winston then I'd see of people supporting him, if that's the case then you've chosen to ignore that to focus on the few posts that match your own agenda.

And you would be wrong

[arista]

If that's the case then why didn't he deny what was said? Why hasn't he sued the publication for defamation and Libel? It's because he most likely said those exact words which is why he's evasive when it's bought up.


Yes and on CH5HD AM Saturday Show Live today
he was Great,
Matt a presenter., then said
lets move on to
the good bits.

Fantastic.



Then a Nasty Asian Eastender Actress
was Ruder to him
Fecked Up more of the interview
BITCH.



I am sick on BBC Actors fecking up others on LIVE interviews


FACT DEZZY - Top Mod

[GiRTh]

Once again, no one forced him to have these views. If he cant express himself without causing offense then that is an issue he needs to address. There was no stitch up here.

[Amy Jade]

And you would be wrong

No he's not wrong, he's actually spot on...

I just looked and there are comments about thinking he's vile with as many likes as the ones saying he was stitched up

[chuff me dizzy]

No he's not wrong, he's actually spot on...

I just looked and there are comments about thinking he's vile with as many likes as the ones saying he was stitched up

Find me one AGAINST Winston with 559 likes

[MB.]

Find me one AGAINST Winston with 559 likes

Find me a Winston who got enough votes from his adoring public to stay in the house oh no wait never mind

[chuff me dizzy]

No he's not wrong, he's actually spot on...

I just looked and there are comments about thinking he's vile with as many likes as the ones saying he was stitched up

Lauren Griffiths Celebrity big brother is a fix.... No one else stood behind a board that turned everyone against them... Celebrity big brother turned everyone against Winston and didn't need to leak that in the house..... What a set up!
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Princess Teri Collins
Princess Teri Collins Totally disagree with the way Winston was treated in the big brother house tonight!!! Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and opinions! Big brother totally orchestrated his eviction by bringing up his own personal opinions! Not that I agree with him but I do believe we all have our own opinions and should be able to express them!!!!
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602 "Likes" 433 "Likes" Need i say more ?

[Vicky.]

He was set up. But by BB, not by the women

[Kazanne]

Umm, everything?

The former is bullying, the latter is people reacting to a bigot's views which he chose to air. If you can't tell the difference between the two then I worry for you.

So what is YOUR solution ?if Winston has those views how are you going to stop that? tie him to a couple of trucks and drive off in different directions? why would people react so angrily if they are doing nothing wrong ? ignore those sort of people with those views ,it's not hard,you don't have to share his views, we get some of you are annoyed ,that's just life everything doesn't happen just as we want it to.

[MB.]

So what is YOUR solution ?if Winston has those views how are you going to stop that? tie him to a couple of trucks and drive off in different directions? why would people react so angrily if they are doing nothing wrong ? ignore those sort of people with those views ,it's not hard,you don't have to share his views, we get some of you are annoyed ,that's just life everything doesn't happen just as we want it to.

...he was on Big Brother, that's not really the point :unsure:

[Kazanne]

He was set up. But by BB, not by the women

The women seemed fine with it as they were comforting him,except maybe Nancy,but most said he wasn't a problem,BB DID stitch him up,why would they give the group a question like that to ask him? they knew what the answer was,quite nasty of BB imo.

[Kazanne]

...he was on Big Brother, that's not really the point :unsure:

BB,KNEW what he was like,he was put in there to boost ratings,now he is no longer needed,BB has thier controversy.

[Patricia4]

I cant believe that in our so called modern society that anyone is allowed to crucify one person for a political aim and get away with it. CBB COLLECTIVLY crucified Winston in order to gain ratings and to promote personal views. If it happened the other way round it would hit OFCOM like a rocket.

I agree with you sampvt :clap1:

[T*]

stitched up by the women
by the women
the women
women
okay

[arista]

He was set up. But by BB, not by the women


Bang On Right Vicky


and Today LIVE on Ch5HD saturday show
a eastender actress Lady Attacked him
Verbal

Camera moved off him


Studio Location - the same place
The Wright Stuff is made
Queenways London W2

[MB.]

BB,KNEW what he was like,he was put in there to boost ratings,now he is no longer needed,BB has thier controversy.

He's still the homophobic one, and he still said homophobic things in his VT. I know how much you want him to look like some sort of heroic martyr but actually he's just a bit of a **** who got his just deserts?

[GiRTh]

Not surprising Winstons is blaming someone else for his own downfall. Pathetic.

[Kazanne]

He's still the homophobic one, and he still said homophobic things in his VT. I know how much you want him to look like some sort of heroic martyr but actually he's just a bit of a **** who got his just deserts?

You know nothing,I am not a fan of Winstons ,but this witch hunt is ridiculous , so,he's homophobic,what just dessets do you want to give him? and proof if any is needed BB knew exactly what they were getting from his VT,why idn't they refuse him entry if they were so concerned?

[Kizzy]

I think this tweet sums my feelings up best.

'I feel so bad for they way they treated that old bigot who once dressed up like a pimp and made all the women feel uncomfortable while blaming them for walking around in their pajamas. Yeah,my heart aches for that tired old Hateful Nazi!'

Maybe not the nazi bit so much..Blaming miscomprehension by 'the people' misquoting in 'the media' and Christianity for your opinion is a massive cop out.

He relayed those opinions again word for word again in the house, and again for Emma so nothing he said was misconstrued.
He really did align gay adoption as child abuse..several times, as presenters Emma and Rylan were as professional as they could be given that their personal beliefs differed so greatly.
I'm not sure what the reasoning behind his appearance was, maybe it was ratings but nobody put words in his mouth, if you make statements like that take responsibility for them.

[GoldHeart]

Umm, everything?

The former is bullying, the latter is people reacting to a bigot's views which he chose to air. If you can't tell the difference between the two then I worry for you.

Katie Hopkins is a bully and a bigot yet still adored
I'm sick of double standards , she's a nasty ugly rat yet gets praised for being "honest" since when is judgemental and racist being honest?? She slags everyone off in the most horrible way
She even stuck her big gargoyle nose in Danny dyers love life just because his wife proposed instead which has nothing to do with her !

[ThriceShy]

Winston behaved impeccably. I have never seen such a bizarrely random witch hunt.

[LukeB]

Katie Hopkins is a bully and a bigot yet still adored
I'm sick of double standards , she's a nasty ugly rat yet gets praised for being "honest" since when is judgemental and racist being honest?? She slags everyone off in the most horrible way
She even stuck her big gargoyle nose in Danny dyers love life just because his wife proposed instead which has nothing to do with her !

No Katie Hopkins is not adored

[arista]

No Katie Hopkins is not adored


Young Luke
no


Democracy means
she has FANS

FACT

[GoldHeart]

No Katie Hopkins is not adored

And yet the gargoyle still got to the final and came second!!!!
She brags about all her Twitter followers
People kept her in the house because for some reason they think she's funny
Even though she's an old witch with a face like dirty cement
So clearly she's popular otherwise how else did she get to final??

And the fact that both her and Katie price were the final 2 just shows how retarded things are

[LukeB]

And yet the gargoyle still got to the final and came second!!!!
She brags about all her Twitter followers
People kept her in the house because for some reason they think she's funny
Even though she's an old witch with a face like dirty cement
So clearly she's popular otherwise how else did she get to final??

And the fact that both her and Katie price were the final 2 just shows how retarded things are

I mean Katie Hopkins is hated by loads, she would have went if it was VTE... VTS saves the big characters sometimes. Oh and twitter, you can buy followers now. So they could be fake? haters/trolls follow people too as Natasha Giggs stated that back in 2012.

[Northern Monkey]

It was a dark day for BB tbh.There was absolutely no reason to subject Winston to all that just for some ratings.Emma was despicable trying to boost herself even more by trying to look like some kind of hero in possibly the worst most unproffessional interview i've ever seen.BB knew the reaction they would get by giving Winston that card and chose to do it anyway for their little bit of controversy.It really showed the producers of this show up for the manipulators they are and how they will throw anybody under a bus for some ratings.
They will have had this task planned for months rubbing their hands together at the thought of trying to destroy somebody for personal gains.
Rylan was ok until the end of the show when all he did was make himself look cringey and pathetic.It was a joke and a stitch up and the viewers lapped it up.

[GoldHeart]

I mean Katie Hopkins is hated by loads, she would have went if it was VTE... VTS saves the big characters sometimes. Oh and twitter, you can buy followers now. So they could be fake? haters/trolls follow people too as Natasha Giggs stated that back in 2012.

I bet she never got challenged in her bb interview though???
She insults everyone and she continues to go to any lengths to upset people
She even compared herself to Jesus
And deliberately wanted to cause a stir with religious people !
I wish people would stop giving this fame ***** attention
Her Twitter followers should still be ashamed of themselves whether they're trolls or what

[jet]

It was a dark day for BB tbh.There was absolutely no reason to subject Winston to all that just for some ratings.Emma was despicable trying to boost herself even more by trying to look like some kind of hero in possibly the worst most unproffessional interview i've ever seen.BB knew the reaction they would get by giving Winston that card and chose to do it anyway for their little bit of controversy.It really showed the producers of this show up for the manipulators they are and how they will throw anybody under a bus for some ratings.
They will have had this task planned for months rubbing their hands together at the thought of trying to destroy somebody for personal gains.
Rylan was ok until the end of the show when all he did was make himself look cringey and pathetic.It was a joke and a stitch up and the viewers lapped it up.

His VT showed him as homophobic though so he knew - and we knew - that that was always going to be part of his storyline and not something that was 'outside' the house. It's how BB works. Everything that came up in the task was already covered in all the individual VT's. I'm also pretty sure that the celebs are told what they will be asked about in any task that will reveal personal details about them. BB isn't out to ruin anyone's career - they couldn't risk being sued. It is then the celebs responsibility how they respond.
Usually if a celeb is disliked by many over something they have said or done it outside the house it gives them a chance to redeem themselves if they so wish and it has worked for many of them. In Winston's case he didn't explain his position without giving offence to many and the responsibility for that is all his.

[Razor]

Winston is a Prat.

[Jack_]

So you choose to ignore 559 likes on a post because it suits your agenda?

559 cat ladies on Facebook out of a viewership of two million...do I ignore it? Yes I do, it's 0.03% of the entire audience.

It isn't representative and that's the end of it.

[ThriceShy]

Winston clearly had more votes than Nancy. That alone should tell you that there are lots of people who do like him and do agree with his reasonable views.

[chuff me dizzy]

Winston clearly had more votes than Nancy. That alone should tell you that there are lots of people who do like him and do agree with his reasonable views.

True

[Vicky.]

Winston clearly had more votes than Nancy. That alone should tell you that there are lots of people who do like him and do agree with his reasonable views.

I agree he had more votes, or most likely did.

I disagree that if someone voted for him they necessarily agreed with his views, more that they wanted to watch more arguments :p

Though no doubt some will have agreed with him.

[Jack_]

Winston clearly had more votes than Nancy. That alone should tell you that there are lots of people who do like him and do agree with his reasonable views.

'I don't agree with gay people adopting' is a reasonable (albeit outdated) view.

'Gay adoption is child abuse' is offensive and is anything but reasonable.

[ThriceShy]

I agree he had more votes, or most likely did.

I disagree that if someone voted for him they necessarily agreed with his views, more that they wanted to watch more arguments :p

Though no doubt some will have agreed with him.


The leftist media are totally mis-portraying the attitudes of people in this country. If you think this country is all pro gay marriage and pro immigration etc then you are sorely mistaken.

Remember when that petition to bar Trump from the UK got 500,000 signatures? Well another petition at the same time to stop immigrants being allowed into this country got 550,000 signatures.

[bots]

'I don't agree with gay people adopting' is a reasonable (albeit outdated) view.

'Gay adoption is child abuse' is offensive and is anything but reasonable.

i thought you were one that advocated not being influenced by events outside the house ... no? If so, then you would have to be against the setup that happened by the producers.

[ThriceShy]

'I don't agree with gay people adopting' is a reasonable (albeit outdated) view.

'Gay adoption is child abuse' is offensive and is anything but reasonable.

Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.

[Jack_]

The leftist media

...

:laugh2:

...

:joker:

...

:laugh3:

...

SCREAMING

[Kizzy]

559 cat ladies on Facebook out of a viewership of two million...do I ignore it? Yes I do, it's 0.03% of the entire audience.

It isn't representative and that's the end of it.

Who is this all telling demographic that has popped up today?...

[ThriceShy]

...

:laugh2:

...

:joker:

...

:laugh3:

...

SCREAMING

I remember you vehemently and passionately arguing that what goes on outside the house should not come into it and housemates should be solely judged on what they do inside the house. Why are you making an exception in Winston's case?

[Kizzy]

Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.

If that was his rationale then why not state that instead of harping on about Christianity?... pfft!

[Shaun]

I remember you vehemently and passionately arguing that what goes on outside the house should not come into it and housemates should be solely judged on what they do inside the house. Why are you making an exception in Winston's case?

Whilst I agree that bringing in outside information is tedious for the show and goes against its entire concept, his handling of the comments inside the house are also up for questioning here (as are his behaviour around Tiffany, and his VT comments).

[chuff me dizzy]

Who is this all telling demographic that has popped up today?...

IF the same 600+ "cat ladies " had been applauding Emma it would have been a different story :joker:

[Jack_]

Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.

Interesting how you've assumed that all gay people are men :think:

Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.

Yours and Winston's justification for the use of the word 'abuse' is nothing more than a masquerade for its actual meaning, which at worst implies gay people are paedophiles (a common homophobic insult) and at best that it's neglect of a child. Neither are at all acceptable. Believe that gay adoption shouldn't be allowed all you want, but start using words like 'abuse' and you become deliberately offensive and you will be rightly ripped apart.

The people who are crying and screaming about Winston's 'unfair' treatment just need to come out and admit that gay people scare them and that they share his views.

Thankfully these opinions are dying out with the people who hold them, and it won't be long until they're gone for good.

[ThriceShy]

Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.



:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Jamie89]

Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.

If someone is literally removing a mother from her child's life for no reason then fine, obviously noone would agree with that. But your point completely ignores the fact that children who are up for adoption are living in care homes and have NO parents. How anyone can suggest that living with no parents is better than having gay parents is beyond me, let alone suggest that the latter is akin to abuse. He should have to explain his views, for the simple reason that they don't make any sense.

[Papillon]

Winston was stitched up full stop

I agree, totally stitched up by everyone including BB.

I don't like the guy, never have done...

They (BB & C5) used Winston to get what they wanted, publicity & ratings.
They humiliated him & used a statement he said outside the house over a year ago to justify their actions.

Winston was nothing more than a puppet.

[Jack_]

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

I'm truly taken aback by your intellectually rigid, well written and thought out reaponse. How ever will I respond to something which has challenged my opinion and left me wondering how to defend it?

On-season really is a remarkable time on here for multiple reasons, isn't it.

[Kizzy]

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

What's so funny? He's right :/

[chuff me dizzy]

Interesting how you've assumed that all gay people are men :think:

Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.

Yours and Winston's justification for the use of the word 'abuse' is nothing more than a masquerade for its actual meaning, which at worst implies gay people are paedophiles (a common homophobic insult) and at best that it's neglect of a child. Neither are at all acceptable. Believe that gay adoption shouldn't be allowed all you want, but start using words like 'abuse' and you become deliberately offensive and you will be rightly ripped apart.

The people who are crying and screaming about Winston's 'unfair' treatment just need to come out and admit that gay people scare them and that they share his views.

Thankfully these opinions are dying out with the people who hold them, and it won't be long until they're gone for good.

So there is no such thing as a man and a woman ,they are both the same :laugh3::umm2:

[ThriceShy]

If someone is literally removing a mother from her child's life for no reason then fine, obviously noone would agree with that. But your point completely ignores the fact that children who are up for adoption are living in care homes and have NO parents. How anyone can suggest that living with no parents is better than having gay parents is beyond me, let alone suggest that the latter is akin to abuse. He should have to explain his views, for the simple reason that they don't make any sense.

He clearly stated his views were Christian. We live in a Christian country. Why should he have to explain them at all. Muslims aren't asked to explain all the vile things in the Quran are they?

[Jack_]

What's so funny? He's right :/

No I'm not, women are naturally more caring and their place is in the kitchen while men are emotionless, callous bastards that love work and football and violence grrrr lads lads lads! None of these things are the product of our environment, they truly exist don't you know!

[ThriceShy]

So there is no such thing as a man and a woman ,they are both the same :laugh3::umm2:


:laugh:

What particularly amuses me is that these gay rights campaigners constantly say things like "gender roles don't exist" but if that were true then why would gayness exist? Surely they would fancy anyone regardless of gender.

[ThriceShy]

No I'm not, women are naturally more caring and their place is in the kitchen while men are emotionless, callous bastards that love work and football and violence grrrr lads lads lads! None of these things are the product of our environment, they truly exist don't you know!

You are the only one saying that. I think your real views are leaking through.

[arista]

'I don't agree with gay people adopting' is a reasonable (albeit outdated) view.

'Gay adoption is child abuse' is offensive and is anything but reasonable.


Yes Jack
you are Correct.


But Millions do say that
not on here, of course

and not me , by the way.

[ThriceShy]

...

:laugh2:

...

:joker:

...

:laugh3:

...

SCREAMING

I'm truly taken aback by your intellectually rigid, well written and thought out reaponse. How ever will I respond to something which has challenged my opinion and left me wondering how to defend it?

On-season really is a remarkable time on here for multiple reasons, isn't it.

[Jack_]

So there is no such thing as a man and a woman ,they are both the same :laugh3::umm2:

There is such a thing as the biological sex of males and females, but the gender binary of men and women is nothing more than a collection of stereotypes and social constructions.

Women are not 'naturally' better at providing emotional support, men are not 'inherently' work-orientated. These kind of gender roles are things that have been embedded in people's psyche over hundreds of years and differ across time and space. They do not exist in reality.

[ThriceShy]

There is such a thing as the biological sex of males and females, but the gender binary of men and women is nothing more than a collection of stereotypes and social constructions.

Women are not 'naturally' better at providing emotional support, men are not 'inherently' work-orientated. These kind of gender roles are things that have been embedded in people's psyche over hundreds of years and differ across time and space. They do not exist in reality.

You are actually serious aren't you?:laugh:

I really despair for the future of this world.

[Jamie89]

He clearly stated his views were Christian. We live in a Christian country. Why should he have to explain them at all. Muslims aren't asked to explain all the vile things in the Quran are they?

Oh come on, he said his views are Christian in a pathetic attempt to try and excuse them. He's a grown man with a mind of his own and so he should be expected to be capable of defending his opinions. The fact is, they're indefensible, and that's why he's hiding behind religion.

[Vicky.]

The leftist media are totally mis-portraying the attitudes of people in this country. If you think this country is all pro gay marriage and pro immigration etc then you are sorely mistaken.

Remember when that petition to bar Trump from the UK got 500,000 signatures? Well another petition at the same time to stop immigrants being allowed into this country got 550,000 signatures.

I definitely do not think this at all. And the majority of the media is about as far away from being 'left' as you can be :laugh:

I know many disagree with gay marriage and such, hell even some of my gay friends don't give a crap about gay marriage (and one gay guy I know actually disagrees with it, rather than not caring about it)

I have also seen the bar immigrants petition, and vaguely heard about the trump one. The trump one is a ****ing joke to be quite honest. I don't understand why people think he should be barred from the country just for being a twat...


--However, the BB viewing audience is largely/mostly gay friends or actually gay. As such I don't think many would have voted for winston as they agree with his views.

Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.

Gay adoption can arguably mean giving a child 2 mothers, rather than depriving them of one

[ThriceShy]

Oh come on, he said his views are Christian in a pathetic attempt to try and excuse them. He's a grown man with a mind of his own and so he should be expected to be capable of defending his opinions. The fact is, they're indefensible, and that's why he's hiding behind religion.

I'm not hiding behind anything. I totally agree with Winston and it isn't for religious reasons. Am I not entitled to my opinion? Should I be mercilessly bullied and hounded on TV too?

[Vicky.]

Interesting how you've assumed that all gay people are men :think:

Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.

Yours and Winston's justification for the use of the word 'abuse' is nothing more than a masquerade for its actual meaning, which at worst implies gay people are paedophiles (a common homophobic insult) and at best that it's neglect of a child. Neither are at all acceptable. Believe that gay adoption shouldn't be allowed all you want, but start using words like 'abuse' and you become deliberately offensive and you will be rightly ripped apart.

The people who are crying and screaming about Winston's 'unfair' treatment just need to come out and admit that gay people scare them and that they share his views.

Thankfully these opinions are dying out with the people who hold them, and it won't be long until they're gone for good.
Think this is a VERY unfair comment here mind Jack. I think Winston was treat appallingly and blatantly set up for the fall. I disagree completely with his views too. And gay people do not scare me either.

[ThriceShy]

Think this is a VERY unfair comment here mind Jack. I think Winston was treat appallingly and blatantly set up for the fall. I disagree completely with his views too. And gay people do not scare me either.

Well the gay agenda to destroy the family absolutely terrifies me.

[chuff me dizzy]

Interesting how you've assumed that all gay people are men :think:

Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.

Yours and Winston's justification for the use of the word 'abuse' is nothing more than a masquerade for its actual meaning, which at worst implies gay people are paedophiles (a common homophobic insult) and at best that it's neglect of a child. Neither are at all acceptable. Believe that gay adoption shouldn't be allowed all you want, but start using words like 'abuse' and you become deliberately offensive and you will be rightly ripped apart.

The people who are crying and screaming about Winston's 'unfair' treatment just need to come out and admit that gay people scare them and that they share his views.

Thankfully these opinions are dying out with the people who hold them, and it won't be long until they're gone for good.

Scared of gay people ? seriously :umm2:

[Jack_]

You are actually serious aren't you?:laugh:

I really despair for the future of this world.

I don't. A world free of homophobia, racism, sexism, class warfare, where people don't believe that women who are raped were 'asking for it' if they weren't wearing 'enough' clothing on a night out, where black people aren't killed by the police for being unlucky enough to be black, where gay people aren't murdered by their nation state for being awful enough to express their sexuality, where those who have very little opportunities to succeed aren't called 'scroungers' and are instead supported, where adopted children are able to be provided with a loving home regardless of the gender or sexual orientation of the parents as opposed to parents who aren't fit to take on the job, where it isn't assumed that women are the only ones capable of emotional support, where men need to 'man up' if they do so and where we don't forget about their alarming suicide rates, where people are free to express their gender identity and sexuality freely without fear of abuse and/or persecution.

Yes, I can't ****ing wait for the generations who have prevented such liberation from occurring to finally die off and enable millions of subordinated groups and minorities to finally enjoy the privileges and rights they have been so often denied.

I Cannot. ****ing. Wait for the future of this world.

[ThriceShy]

Scared of gay people ? seriously :umm2:

Well I would certainly have been alarmed at Rylans behaviour last night, thrusting his arse into winstons face. In his position I would have removed him from my personal space.

[Vicky.]

Well the gay agenda to destroy the family absolutely terrifies me.

The gay agenda to destroy the family? Can you expand on this, I genuinely don't know what you are talking about?

If its the adoption thing again, I don't see how gays adopting is destroying families, given these kids have no families to begin with :S

[ThriceShy]

The gay agenda to destroy the family? Can you expand on this, I genuinely don't know what you are talking about?

If its the adoption thing again, I don't see how gays adopting is destroying families, given these kids have no families to begin with :S

I don't even agree with gay marriage.

[chuff me dizzy]

Well I would certainly have been alarmed at Rylans behaviour last night, thrusting his arse into winstons face. In his position I would have removed him from my personal space.

He would have lasted 2 minutes maximum doing that to me

[ThriceShy]

I don't. A world free of homophobia, racism, sexism, class warfare, where people don't believe that women who are raped were 'asking for it' if they weren't wearing 'enough' clothing on a night out, where black people aren't killed by the police for being unlucky enough to be black, where gay people aren't murdered by their nation state for being awful enough to express their sexuality, where those who have very little opportunities to succeed aren't called 'scroungers' and are instead supported, where adopted children are able to be provided with a loving home regardless of the gender or sexual orientation of the parents as opposed to parents who aren't fit to take on the job, where it isn't assumed that women are the only ones capable of emotional support, where men need to 'man up' if they do so and where we don't forget about their alarming suicide rates, where people are free to express their gender identity and sexuality freely without fear of abuse and/or persecution.

Yes, I can't ****ing wait for the generations who have prevented such liberation from occurring to finally die off and enable millions of subordinated groups and minorities to finally enjoy the privileges and rights they have been so often denied.

I Cannot. ****ing. Wait for the future of this world.

#Imagine all the people sharing all the world ooh ooh oohee ooh#

:joker::joker::joker:

[Vicky.]

I don't even agree with gay marriage.

Thats fine, loads of people don't. Each to their own :shrug:

I don't see how there is a gay agenda to destroy families though still :S

[ThriceShy]

He would have lasted 2 minutes maximum doing that to me

I'd have knocked him out. I make no bones about it.

How he dare do that after Winston got a warning for not respecting Nancy's personal space??

[Beso]

I don't. A world free of homophobia, racism, sexism, class warfare, where people don't believe that women who are raped were 'asking for it' if they weren't wearing 'enough' clothing on a night out, where black people aren't killed by the police for being unlucky enough to be black, where gay people aren't murdered by their nation state for being awful enough to express their sexuality, where those who have very little opportunities to succeed aren't called 'scroungers' and are instead supported, where adopted children are able to be provided with a loving home regardless of the gender or sexual orientation of the parents as opposed to parents who aren't fit to take on the job, where it isn't assumed that women are the only ones capable of emotional support, where men need to 'man up' if they do so and where we don't forget about their alarming suicide rates, where people are free to express their gender identity and sexuality freely without fear of abuse and/or persecution.

Yes, I can't ****ing wait for the generations who have prevented such liberation from occurring to finally die off and enable millions of subordinated groups and minorities to finally enjoy the privileges and rights they have been so often denied.

I Cannot. ****ing. Wait for the future of this world.

Some minority groups such as muslims share his beliefs so you're in for a long wait.

[ThriceShy]

Thats fine, loads of people don't. Each to their own :shrug:

I don't see how there is a gay agenda to destroy families though still :S


Families should be man and wife and kids. Any attempt to alter that is an agenda to destroy it.

[Vicky.]

I'd have knocked him out. I make no bones about it.

How he dare do that after Winston got a warning for not respecting Nancy's personal space??

I didn't even notice this actually, have only picked up on it from various posts today. If he was behaving the way people are suggesting, then it was bang out of order. ESPECIALLY as Winston got a warning for asking for a hug and basically being near someone while they undressed :bored:

[Shaun]

Families should be man and wife and kids. Any attempt to alter that is an agenda to destroy it.

Or just to change them but lol ok

[Vicky.]

Families should be man and wife and kids. Any attempt to alter that is an agenda to destroy it.

Do you also have issues with unmarried parents, given the 'wife' part?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't even agree with gay marriage.

Dont marry a gay man then?

[MrWong]

I'm not hiding behind anything. I totally agree with Winston and it isn't for religious reasons. Am I not entitled to my opinion? Should I be mercilessly bullied and hounded on TV too?

:joker: So dramatic

[Jamie89]

I don't even agree with gay marriage.

https://i.imgur.com/6bi83F3.jpg?1

[ThriceShy]

Do you also have issues with unmarried parents, given the 'wife' part?

Yes.

[Vicky.]

https://i.imgur.com/6bi83F3.jpg?1
:laugh2:
Yes.

Interesting.

And thats not even sarcasm. I actually don't think I have ever spoke to people with such extreme views before

[Shaun]

ylJ7eNrvrug

[Ross.]

https://i.imgur.com/6bi83F3.jpg?1

:joker:

[MrWong]

I didn't even notice this actually, have only picked up on it from various posts today. If he was behaving the way people are suggesting, then it was bang out of order. ESPECIALLY as Winston got a warning for asking for a hug and basically being near someone while they undressed :bored:

That's not what he was warned for.

He was warned because Nancy had come to the diary room to complain that he was leering at her and making her uncomfortable.

[Vicky.]

That's not what he was warned for.

He was warned because Nancy had come to the diary room to complain that he was leering at her and making her uncomfortable.

She backtracked on it when actually speaking to him. A big fuss about nothing...

[Kazanne]

Think this is a VERY unfair comment here mind Jack. I think Winston was treat appallingly and blatantly set up for the fall. I disagree completely with his views too. And gay people do not scare me either.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[MrWong]

She backtracked on it when actually speaking to him. A big fuss about nothing...

It was shown on the highlights that he was leering.

[Beso]

It was shown on the highlights that he was leering.

He wasnt doing a good job of it considering he was shouting her name at the same time. To me he was wanting to apolgise and explain himself from their earlier discussion about him refusing to share a bed with a man.:shrug:

[Vicky.]

I don't get why she didn't actually speak to him about it either, she is not exactly backwards in coming forwards. Also she made out as if it wasn't even an issue when it was spoken about outside of the diary room?


Sorry, on this one I actually do agree with Winston. If you are so concerned about men looking at you when you undress, do not undress infront of a room full of them. Its quite simple really...

And I don't think this is sexist either before that starts, as I would think the exact same if a guy was moaning about one of the girls 'leering' at him while he got changed in the middle of the main room.

[jet]

I don't even agree with gay marriage.

Why should anyone be denied a human right because the way they were born though? It's saying that 2 people can't legalize their love and commitment to sharing their life with each other because they were born 'different' to what society deems as acceptable. Isn't that just cruel?

[ThriceShy]

Why should anyone be denied a human right because the way they were born though? It's saying that 2 people can't legalize their love and commitment to sharing their life with each other because they were born 'different' to what society deems as acceptable. Isn't that just cruel?

Your post assumes people are born gay and it also assumes that marriage is a "human right." I disagree with both.

Naughty me. Emma should come and give a good patronising telling off.

[jet]

Your post assumes people are born gay and it also assumes that marriage is a "human right." I disagree with both.

Naughty me. Emma should come and give a good patronising telling off.

I'm not assuming anything. Sexual orientation is largely or entirely determined by our genes and hormonal influences in the womb.
There are wide-ranging evidence from dozens of scientific studies on homosexuality. They conclude that sexual orientation is overwhelmingly innate.

[ThriceShy]

I'm not assuming anything. Sexual orientation is largely or entirely determined by our genes and hormonal influences in the womb.
There are wide-ranging evidence from dozens of scientific studies on homosexuality. They conclude that sexual orientation is overwhelmingly innate.


Being innate doesn't make something desirable.

[sampvt]

I'm not assuming anything. Sexual orientation is largely or entirely determined by our genes and hormonal influences in the womb.
There are wide-ranging evidence from dozens of scientific studies on homosexuality. They conclude that sexual orientation is overwhelmingly innate.

I disagree, I know quite a few gay men who have had happy marriages and have kids but they turned very late in life. God only knows why but I am sure there are a few experts on here that will put me right.

[jet]

Being innate doesn't make something desirable.

It being innate means they should have the same human rights as heterosexuals as they didn't choose their sexual orientation.

[jet]

I disagree, I know quite a few gay men who have had happy marriages and have kids but they turned very late in life. God only knows why but I am sure there are a few experts on here that will put me right.

That's called denial and being in the closet.

[ThriceShy]

It being innate means they should have the same human rights as heterosexuals as they didn't choose their sexual orientation.

But I have seen research showing that psychopathy is innate. Should psychopaths have all their human rights and be kept out of jail because they didn't choose to be psychopaths?

[chuff me dizzy]

I disagree, I know quite a few gay men who have had happy marriages and have kids but they turned very late in life. God only knows why but I am sure there are a few experts on here that will put me right.

Thats true Sam i too know lots of "Gay" men who have had children, therefore kicking out "You can't help the way you are born " BS

[ThriceShy]

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

[chuff me dizzy]

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Same here, Ive popped the kettle on in case she calls in mine ,Im very sociable

[Shaun]

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

And I think that sums you up...

[jet]

But I have seen research showing that psychopathy is innate. Should psychopaths have all their human rights and be kept out of jail because they didn't choose to be psychopaths?

Dear God, why are you comparing psychopaths to gay people? Psychopaths are a danger to others so I don't get your point AT ALL.

[jet]

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Would you ever think of challenging your own beliefs by doing some research on the subject?

[Kazanne]

I don't get why she didn't actually speak to him about it either, she is not exactly backwards in coming forwards. Also she made out as if it wasn't even an issue when it was spoken about outside of the diary room?


Sorry, on this one I actually do agree with Winston. If you are so concerned about men looking at you when you undress, do not undress infront of a room full of them. Its quite simple really...

And I don't think this is sexist either before that starts, as I would think the exact same if a guy was moaning about one of the girls 'leering' at him while he got changed in the middle of the main room.

:cheer2: Your on form today Vicky,well said.

[ThriceShy]

Dear God, why are you comparing psychopaths to gay people? Psychopaths are a danger to others so I don't get your point AT ALL.

Sigh.

[ThriceShy]

Would you ever think of challenging your own beliefs by doing some research on the subject?

What research would you suggest?

[reece(:]

Using facebook to back up claims :joker::joker:

[jet]

Sigh.

As you have nothing to say, I take it you have come to your senses.

[jet]

What research would you suggest?

Online?

[ThriceShy]

Online?


Could you point me to the research papers you have read?

[reece(:]

Good god I've read this thread in it's entirety and really wish I didn't :umm2:

Jack :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[nonstop]

Poor him.

[Jamie89]

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Same here

But I have seen research showing that psychopathy is innate. Should psychopaths have all their human rights and be kept out of jail because they didn't choose to be psychopaths?

So you've both chosen to be straight then? As in, you recognise that you have gay feelings but you're choosing to suppress them? Or is it just gay people who are choosing their sexuality, because they're psychopaths? Really, this thread is a total mess :huh:

[jet]

Could you point me to the research papers you have read?

I have read many, but this is the most scientific and the largest and most recent study to date:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=BF61EB66FE0CD08A1FFB3ED 531687E66.journals?aid=9625997&fileId=S0033291714002451

[ThriceShy]

I have read many, but this is the most scientific and the largest and most recent study to date:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=BF61EB66FE0CD08A1FFB3ED 531687E66.journals?aid=9625997&fileId=S0033291714002451

Could I read your copy because I am not paying £30 for it.

[jet]

Could I read your copy because I am not paying £30 for it.

You don't have to pay for the results which concluded homosexuality is innate.
There is enough info there anyway and plenty more online elsewhere which is free.

[Black Dagger]

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Wow

[sampvt]

You don't have to pay for the results which concluded homosexuality is innate.
There is enough info there anyway and plenty more online elsewhere which is free.

please post proof or yield

[Ross.]

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

I'm actually speechless at this comment

[Black Dagger]

I feel like I've lost all my brain cells.

Totally chose to have a mental breakdown in my teen years because I thought it would be a laugh to like dick

[LukeB]

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Same here, Ive popped the kettle on in case she calls in mine ,Im very sociable

wow at this ignorance :umm2:

[jet]

please post proof or yield

I posted a link a few posts up in which it clearly states homosexuality is innate. It is the results of the latest and biggest study to date.

[ThriceShy]

I posted a link a few posts up in which it clearly states homosexuality is innate. It is the results of the latest and biggest study to date.

Not conclusive though is it. It actually states in the summary that the results conflict with other studies.

[jet]

Not conclusive though is it. It actually states in the summary that the results conflict with other studies.

Yes, earlier studies. That study is the latest and largest ever carried out and it concludes homosexuality is innate.
I read a fantastic piece on homosexuality in animals a few years ago. Most animal species have gay members too. If I can find it I'll post a link. My neighbour has a gay dog by the way.

[ThriceShy]

Yes, earlier studies. That study is the latest and largest ever carried out and it concludes homosexuality is innate.
I read a fantastic piece on homosexuality in animals a few years ago. Most animal species have gay members too. If I can find it I'll post a link. My neighbour has a gay dog by the way.

Perhaps she could adopt a child for it.:laugh:

Even if we accept that it is innate, it still doesn't make gay couples adopting right. They can't naturally have children.

[letmein]

Perhaps she could adopt a child for it.:laugh:

Even if we accept that it is innate, it still doesn't make gay couples adopting right. They can't naturally have children.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lilttuTp0v1qef76ro1_500.gif

[iRyan]

Give me a break

He stuck by that incredibly ignorant and offensive comment and he's living with the consequences, it's nobody else's fault but his own

[iRyan]

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Even if it was a choice, who gives a ****? Why can't another human being just love another human being?

[zakman440]

:umm2: at this thread tbh.

[jet]

Perhaps she could adopt a child for it.:laugh:

Even if we accept that it is innate, it still doesn't make gay couples adopting right. They can't naturally have children.

No they can't. Which is sad and all the more reason why they should be able to adopt. Being born gay shouldn't stop anyone from having what those who aren't gay can have. It's unfair. People celebrate when a heterosexual couple have a child, when a gay couple want a child to love, they have to go through so much and get blasted for it.

[iRyan]

And it's such a shame people think like that meanwhile there are hundreds of thousands of children in foster care desperate for the love and care from a family of any kind. Gay couples are FAR more likely to adopt than straight couples. They should be encouraged not discouraged, when there are so many children out there without a home and loving family. Winton's word were truly sickening and self-righteous.

[sampvt]

Gay couples have been around for a while but underground. Its just recently since the gay marriage thing, that established relationships have been accepted and some have not yet been indoctrinated into accepting that these gay alliances are as stable as straight marriages. I strongly believe that most gay alliances are actually proving to be stronger but I am in the minority and it takes time to educate.

[Ammi]

That's called denial and being in the closet.

..also in many cases, not so much being in denial but being of a generation when being in the closet was the safest place to be because of the lack of acceptance and 'gay' actually being illegal.../not that long ago really...

[Ammi]

No they can't. Which is sad and all the more reason why they should be able to adopt. Being born gay shouldn't stop anyone from having what those who aren't gay can have. It's unfair. People celebrate when a heterosexual couple have a child, when a gay couple want a child to love, they have to go through so much and get blasted for it.

..they really do, it's a very long process..well adoption in general for any couple is and should be..it's important to asses the right parents/the right child(ren) etc but it's much more intrusive and lengthy for a homosexual couple than it is for heterosexual partnerships and also from my experience, much more so than a single parent adopting...their sexual lives are not intruded on in anything like the same way...I know a gay couple who have recently gone through the process and what they went through...

..children are all different obviously, just like we all are and some will thrive and be best suited to male/female parents, some to single parents and equally, some to homosexual parents..each parenting can have something a child needs, specific to them...and the 'matching' is mutual so the children..(obviously not babies..) choose those gay parents as well, with several meetings...but they're not even introduced in the first place, if it's felt that it's not a parenting situation that would be suitable for that child/those children, their character etc...I have to say as well, again only my own personal experience of maybe 40/50ish foster children at our school through the time that I've been there..?..a very high percentage of them were adoptable and in that sad situation because of biological heterosexual parents, who they suffered child abuse from...either one of, or both parents...

[Ammi]

..I would say that denying a child an opportunity of having terrific parents/terrific homosexual parents because it's felt that's a family they would particularly thrive in..is more akin to 'child abuse'....or certainly not looking at a child's best interest/welfare etc...and because of a perceived idea of what a family should be/a nuclear family, type thing...families come in all shapes and sizes and can equally work or not work, but nothing to do with sexuality at all...

[ThriceShy]

..I would say that denying a child an opportunity of having terrific parents/terrific homosexual parents because it's felt that's a family they would particularly thrive in..is more akin to 'child abuse'....or certainly not looking at a child's best interest/welfare etc...and because of a perceived idea of what a family should be/a nuclear family, type thing...families come in all shapes and sizes and can equally work or not work, but nothing to do with sexuality at all...



Two gay men cannot conceive a child. Is there perhaps a reason for that?

[waterhog]

:worship:

I will just say in defence of CBB that one rule springs to mind and that is 1- CBB hold the right to change the rules as and when it sees fit - they signed up to it.