Is Emma racist ?

[chuff me dizzy]

After last night slaughter of a black man, does anyone think Emmas is a racist ?

[Pete.]

Moving on

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Wow. :joker:

[RichardG]

No

[MB.]

:joker:

I think you should probably log off for a few minutes for your own good

[Jarvio]

What a ****ing stupid post

[Ross.]

Erm

[Gstar]

all of the posts above

[LukeB]

:joker: I can't at this ridiculous thread..

bitter because their favourite went and no one likes him so you pull the race card.

[Amy Jade]

Of course she's not racist, you need to stop reaching.

[ThriceShy]

After last night slaughter of a black man, does anyone think Emmas is a racist ?

I absolutely believe she is.

Winston was an easy target for her and the baying racist crowd.

[Amy Jade]

Is this trolling? I mean am I not getting the joke?

[LukeB]

Didn't Helen get the same treatment? :think:

[Lostie!]

You really should be ashamed of yourself.

[LukeB]

Is this trolling? I mean am I not getting the joke?

starting to feel it is too or plain ignorance :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

I absolutely believe she is.

Winston was an easy target for her and the baying racist crowd.

So by that reasoning a majority of this forum must be racist because barely anyone liked him

[Pete.]

Didn't Helen get the same treatment? :think:
Mte

[Vicky.]

Nope.

I disagree with how she went on, but I seriously doubt it was about his colour.

[ThriceShy]

So by that reasoning a majority of this forum must be racist because barely anyone liked him

If you want to believe that then I can't stop you.

[jennyfromtheblock8]

No she was just angry at what he had said and would not apologise either. Think his race or colour had nothing at all to do with it and Emma would of been the same with anyone.

[ThriceShy]

Nope.

I disagree with how she went on, but I seriously doubt it was about his colour.

It may not have been directly and conciously about his colour or gender but imagine if one of the pretty young white women had said that about gay adoption. Would Emma have treated them the same way? I don't think she would.

[Beso]

Hmmm, i doubt it but i find it funny how she spat her dummy out at winston and his way with women yet seemingly cant see david guest doing the same..maybe she just thinks she isnt.

[chuff me dizzy]

I absolutely believe she is.

Winston was an easy target for her and the baying racist crowd.

I agree

[Pete.]

It may not have been directly and conciously about his colour or gender but imagine if one of the pretty young white women had said that about gay adoption. Would Emma have treated them the same way? I don't think she would.
Erm she slaughtered Hellen too

[Lostie!]

It may not have been directly and conciously about his colour or gender but imagine if one of the pretty young white women had said that about gay adoption. Would Emma have treated them the same way? I don't think she would.

So you're accusing her of being racist based on a hypothetical situation? Ridiculous doesn't even begin to cover it.

It's astounding how readily some people are to trivialise issues as serious as racism, not to mention throwing around such strong accusations without anything close to a shred of evidence. Disgusting.

[Samm]

LOL! She went all out on him because he's a homophobic little ****!

[Ross.]

So you're accusing her of being racist based on a hypothetical situation? Ridiculous doesn't even begin to cover it.

It's astounding how readily some people are to trivialise issues as serious as racism, not to mention throwing around such strong accusations without anything close to a shred of evidence. Disgusting.

[2]

[Vicky.]

It may not have been directly and conciously about his colour or gender but imagine if one of the pretty young white women had said that about gay adoption. Would Emma have treated them the same way? I don't think she would.

Depends if the producers had told her too..which I do think happened last night tbh.

Yes the guy had vile and outdated views, but this was apparently from his entrance VT for gods sake. I don't think he was homophobic enough inside the house for their liking (its all about the controversy afterall ;) ) hence bringing out that ridiculous task to focus on something he said years back, while others got...boob jobs and such brought up? It was quite mental really.

And yes, he didn't backtrack on his views, he clearly does believe what he said. But I still do not think it was right to set him up in that way, and then stick the boot in after he was evicted too. He was only put in to be ejected in the first place, I think most can agree on that. But he did not call John a **** or call Chris a batty boy or whatever, much to the dismay of the producers. hence the show that was put on last night.

All my opinion :tongue:

[Northern Monkey]

Nope.

I disagree with how she went on, but I seriously doubt it was about his colour.

This for me too.

[Natalie.]

Nope

[Amy Jade]

So you're accusing her of being racist based on a hypothetical situation? Ridiculous doesn't even begin to cover it.

It's astounding how readily some people are to trivialise issues as serious as racism, not to mention throwing around such strong accusations without anything close to a shred of evidence. Disgusting.

This is why I love you - this is how I feel but I'm too dumb to write it so well haha

[bots]

Depends if the producers had told her too..which I do think happened last night tbh.

Yes the guy had vile and outdated views, but this was apparently from his entrance VT for gods sake. I don't think he was homophobic enough inside the house for their liking (its all about the controversy afterall ;) ) hence bringing out that ridiculous task to focus on something he said years back, while others got...boob jobs and such brought up? It was quite mental really.

And yes, he didn't backtrack on his views, he clearly does believe what he said. But I still do not think it was right to set him up in that way, and then stick the boot in after he was evicted too. He was only put in to be ejected in the first place, I think most can agree on that. But he did not call John a **** or call Chris a batty boy or whatever, much to the dismay of the producers. hence the show that was put on last night.

All my opinion :tongue:

An opinion that i agree with

[Beso]

Depends if the producers had told her too..which I do think happened last night tbh.

Yes the guy had vile and outdated views, but this was apparently from his entrance VT for gods sake. I don't think he was homophobic enough inside the house for their liking (its all about the controversy afterall ;) ) hence bringing out that ridiculous task to focus on something he said years back, while others got...boob jobs and such brought up? It was quite mental really.

And yes, he didn't backtrack on his views, he clearly does believe what he said. But I still do not think it was right to set him up in that way, and then stick the boot in after he was evicted too. He was only put in to be ejected in the first place, I think most can agree on that. But he did not call John a **** or call Chris a batty boy or whatever, much to the dismay of the producers. hence the show that was put on last night.

All my opinion :tongue:
Exactly, which can be described as mass bullying.

[Jamie89]

After last night slaughter of a black man, does anyone think Emmas is a racist ?

https://i.imgur.com/Q8HClK4.jpg

[Vicky.]

Exactly, which can be described as mass bullying.

I'm not sure I would describe it as bullying...but the producers are pretty cruel and will do anything for headlines. And its worked, again :laugh:

[Kizzy]

No, not at all.

[chuff me dizzy]

Depends if the producers had told her too..which I do think happened last night tbh.

Yes the guy had vile and outdated views, but this was apparently from his entrance VT for gods sake. I don't think he was homophobic enough inside the house for their liking (its all about the controversy afterall ;) ) hence bringing out that ridiculous task to focus on something he said years back, while others got...boob jobs and such brought up? It was quite mental really.

And yes, he didn't backtrack on his views, he clearly does believe what he said. But I still do not think it was right to set him up in that way, and then stick the boot in after he was evicted too. He was only put in to be ejected in the first place, I think most can agree on that. But he did not call John a **** or call Chris a batty boy or whatever, much to the dismay of the producers. hence the show that was put on last night.

All my opinion :tongue:

And mine !!

[Ant.]

Erm she slaughtered Hellen too

slagphobic?

[Beso]

I'm not sure I would describe it as bullying...but the producers are pretty cruel and will do anything for headlines. And its worked, again :laugh:

Omg, not bullying. 14 housemates, a crowd of about 200, a studio of 50 peopke and two frothing at the mouth presenters, all ganging up on one dittery old guy and you say thats not bullying..jesus christ, have a word.

[Vicky.]

Omg, not bullying. 14 housemates, a crowd of about 200, a studio of 50 peopke and two frothing at the mouth presenters, all ganging up on one dittery old guy and you say thats not bullying..jesus christ, have a word.

The housemates had a go for his opinions. They did not bully him :conf:

The crowd boo the **** out of everyone so they don't count :laugh:

People will have opinions on his views, thats what happens when you express views like that. I don't see that as bullying. However I do think the producers (and Emma, IF she wasn't told what to say) are completely in the wrong as they clearly did target him and set him up for it :shrug:

[Niamh.]

:laugh2:

[Amy Jade]

I literally feel sorry for people who think she's racist just because she doesn't like a bigot like Winston. He gave plenty of reasons to be disliked his skin colour is irrelevant.

[Northern Monkey]

The housemates had a go for his opinions. They did not bully him :conf:

The crowd boo the **** out of everyone so they don't count :laugh:

People will have opinions on his views, thats what happens when you express views like that. I don't see that as bullying. However I do think the producers (and Emma, IF she wasn't told what to say) are completely in the wrong as they clearly did target him and set him up for it :shrug:

It was a pack mentality tbf.Half that crowd more than likely did'nt give shat about what Winston said.Emma was bang out of order and highly unprofessional and Rylan got silly towards the end.
Not racist from Emma though.Just her trying to make herself look like some kind of PC hero.

[Cherie]

Depends if the producers had told her too..which I do think happened last night tbh.

Yes the guy had vile and outdated views, but this was apparently from his entrance VT for gods sake. I don't think he was homophobic enough inside the house for their liking (its all about the controversy afterall ;) ) hence bringing out that ridiculous task to focus on something he said years back, while others got...boob jobs and such brought up? It was quite mental really.

And yes, he didn't backtrack on his views, he clearly does believe what he said. But I still do not think it was right to set him up in that way, and then stick the boot in after he was evicted too. He was only put in to be ejected in the first place, I think most can agree on that. But he did not call John a **** or call Chris a batty boy or whatever, much to the dismay of the producers. hence the show that was put on last night.

All my opinion :tongue:

This pretty much if anything he displayed more sexist and lavicious tendencies in the house than homophobia

[ThriceShy]

I literally feel sorry for people who think she's racist just because she doesn't like a bigot like Winston. He gave plenty of reasons to be disliked his skin colour is irrelevant.


It is Emma that is the bigot. Look at definition of bigot:

bigot


/ˈbɪɡət/


noun

noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots




a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

It describes Emma and her cronies to a tee.

[chuff me dizzy]

Omg, not bullying. 14 housemates, a crowd of about 200, a studio of 50 peopke and two frothing at the mouth presenters, all ganging up on one dittery old guy and you say thats not bullying..jesus christ, have a word.

:clap1:

[MB.]

It was a pack mentality tbf.Half that crowd more than likely did'nt give shat about what Winston said.Emma was bang out of order and Rylan got silly towards the end.
Not racist from Emma though.Just her trying to make herself look like some kind of PC hero.

Or her being a decent human being who doesn't hold archaic views?

[Vicky.]

I literally feel sorry for people who think she's racist just because she doesn't like a bigot like Winston. He gave plenty of reasons to be disliked his skin colour is irrelevant.

There was a thread on DS yesterday saying that Winston was the easy target for eviction...not for being homophobic or anything...but because he is black. Yes, the viewers would vote him out because they are racist

I know we get these type of threads year after year accusing everyone and their aunt of racism because someone is voted out, but come on. Some sense needs to be applied at times :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

Or her being a decent human being who doesn't hold archaic views?

Her views should'nt get in the way of her doing her job proffessionally though.She let herself down.

[MB.]

Her views should'nt get in the way of her doing her job proffessionally though.She let herself down.

No, but the fact that she's a decent human being should (which I can't say for others)

She did herself proud, end of :thumbs:

[EspeonBB]

*surejan.gif*

[Cherie]

No, but the fact that she's a decent human being should (which I can't say for others)

She did herself proud, end of :thumbs:

She could have proved she is an even more decent human being by letting him speak, that is generally how interviews work :thumbs:

[Beso]

The housemates had a go for his opinions. They did not bully him :conf:

The crowd boo the **** out of everyone so they don't count :laugh:

People will have opinions on his views, thats what happens when you express views like that. I don't see that as bullying. However I do think the producers (and Emma, IF she wasn't told what to say) are completely in the wrong as they clearly did target him and set him up for it :shrug:

Yeah bullying.:spin:

[Jack_]

LMAOOOOO

I've seen some ****ing ****e on here in my time but this is reaching beyond so many levels :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

Some people take this show far too seriously and need desperately to step away from both their computer and TV

[Jamie89]

It is Emma that is the bigot. Look at definition of bigot:

It describes Emma and her cronies to a tee.

Emma's a bigot because she doesn't tolerate homophobia? :umm2:

https://38.media.tumblr.com/533d4a2dccbb34687a5d4962d595c488/tumblr_ndo8nfpgii1qbey8go2_r1_500.gif

[Jack_]

It may not have been directly and conciously about his colour or gender but imagine if one of the pretty young white women had said that about gay adoption. Would Emma have treated them the same way? I don't think she would.

I'm pretty damn sure if Helen had made comments like that she'd have gone ape **** on her, she did for the comments she made to Brian

[Niamh.]

Emma's a bigot because she doesn't tolerate homophobia? :umm2:



https://38.media.tumblr.com/533d4a2dccbb34687a5d4962d595c488/tumblr_ndo8nfpgii1qbey8go2_r1_500.gif


PC gone mad I tell ya :fan:

[Vicky.]

Yeah bullying.:spin:

Maybe if you reach enough it can be described as bullying by the producers..but not by the crowd or the housemates.

[JoshBB]

Emma racist??? :laugh2:

It's the exact same people who spout "pc brigade!!" whenever we speak out against clearly offensive comments now suggesting such idiotic and outlandish things such as producers being racist to defend their problematic fave.. who are the loonies now? :smug:

[Dylan95]

No, he deserved that slaughtering 100%. Vile man

[sampvt]

such a lively thread defending the indefensible, lol.

[ThriceShy]

LMAOOOOO

I've seen some ****ing ****e on here in my time but this is reaching beyond so many levels :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

Some people take this show far too seriously and need desperately to step away from both their computer and TV

Aren't you meant to discuss the housemates and not other forum members?

[Beso]

Maybe if you reach enough it can be described as bullying by the producers..but not by the crowd or the housemates.

Yeah like i said, mass bullying by bb themselves.:spin:

[Amy Jade]

The housemates were great with him, far nicer than I would have been.

Tiffany in perticular was nothing but kind to him and she tolerated his perv ways but she (like a majority in here) has gay friends and obviously found it disgusting that he said gays adopting was abusive.

[rionablue]

After last night slaughter of a black man, does anyone think Emmas is a racist ?

Jesus!!! Is this a joke!!!! No

[Razor]

Wtf

[Vicky.]

The housemates were great with him, far nicer than I would have been.

Tiffany in perticular was nothing but kind to him and she tolerated his perv ways but she (like a majority in here) has gay friends and obviously found it disgusting that he said gays adopting was abusive.

Tolerated? She seemed to like the attention and have no issues with his 'pervy' ways at all.

Infact I don't think any of the women (bar Nancy) had an issue with his apparent pervy-ness.

The guy has his faults, and many of them. But I don't see the sexism or the perv thing, I really don't :S

[Paul Kersey]

After last night slaughter of a black man, does anyone think Emmas is a racist ?

Yes.

[Shaun]

Oh dear.

[arista]

After last night slaughter of a black man, does anyone think Emmas is a racist ?


No she is not that Chuff.


But if you do a interview
you do not get Political and destroy the better bits
of the star

[arista]

Oh dear.


Hi honey

[Shaun]

Alright arista babe x

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

No but I haven't seen her as passionate about racist comments as she was about gay comment.

[Jack_]

Aren't you meant to discuss the housemates and not other forum members?

chat **** get banged

[arista]

Maybe if you reach enough it can be described as bullying by the producers..but not by the crowd or the housemates.


Yes Producers do just that.


But Emma can pull the ear plug out
they would not dare sack HER for that, Vicky

[smudgie]

Unprofessional yes.
Racist..no way.

[Lostie!]

Emma's a bigot because she doesn't tolerate homophobia? :umm2:

https://38.media.tumblr.com/533d4a2dccbb34687a5d4962d595c488/tumblr_ndo8nfpgii1qbey8go2_r1_500.gif

:joker:

And :clap1: for the HTGAWM promo. :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think last night was a good example of how if people "think" they are right and outraged they can actually act as beastly as the person they are vilifying

[zakman440]

Is this a joke thread

[arista]

Is this a joke thread


no

[arista]

Unprofessional yes.
Racist..no way.



She Must Stop That


........ I can't take it anymore

[Kazanne]

I think last night was a good example of how if people "think" they are right and outraged they can actually act as beastly as the person they are vilifying

There was a lot of that with Helen,some of the comments were far worse than anything she said,:laugh::laugh:

[wendywillow]

Emma racist??? :laugh2:

It's the exact same people who spout "pc brigade!!" whenever we speak out against clearly offensive comments now suggesting such idiotic and outlandish things such as producers being racist to defend their problematic fave.. who are the loonies now? :smug:

:clap1:

[Glenn.]

Jesus Christ is thread real?

No Emma is not a racist and I find it hard to comprehend why someone would think something so idiotic.

[BlankSpace]

One thing your failing to keep in mind is that Winston said some stuff in the house that was seen as offensive to some people.. had he not said it, how do you think things would've been? Doesn't make Emma or the crowd racist at all, it would be the same if anybody else did it :|

[Livia]

Questioning a black man for his homophobic comments is not racist.

[chuff me dizzy]

Questioning a black man for his homophobic comments is not racist.

How she questioned him could be seen as she is racist

[BlankSpace]

How she questioned him could be seen as she is racist

In what way?

[Livia]

How she questioned him could be seen as she is racist

Not at all.

[chuff me dizzy]

Not at all.

Please add IN MY OPINION ....thanks

[Vicky.]

One thing your failing to keep in mind is that Winston said some stuff in the house that was seen as offensive to some people.. had he not said it, how do you think things would've been? Doesn't make Emma or the crowd racist at all, it would be the same if anybody else did it :|

Winston only actually said offensive stuff inside the house as he was prompted to by BB. He was not homophobic, or did not show it INSIDE the house, until BB dragged up a comment he made years earlier.

I feel his lack of homophobic comments was the very reason for the task that brought up all of that stuff. BB expected him to be insulting towards Chris/Johnathon but he wasn't. So plan 2.

[Livia]

Please add IN MY OPINION ....thanks

When YOU do, I might consider it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Winston only actually said offensive stuff inside the house as he was prompted to by BB. He was not homophobic, or did not show it INSIDE the house, until BB dragged up a comment he made years earlier.

I feel his lack of homophobic comments was the very reason for the task that brought up all of that stuff. BB expected him to be insulting towards Chris/Johnathon but he wasn't. So plan 2.

Everyone was fine with him in the house ,even the 2 gays ,so clearly had said nothing wrong or homophobic until BB hung him out to dry ,for no reason whatsoever

[chuff me dizzy]

When YOU do, I might consider it.

:pat:

[Vicky.]

Do people really need to add 'in my opinion' to all of their posts? obviously when people make a post on a matter it is their opinion :S

[Livia]

Jesus Christ is thread real?

No Emma is not a racist and I find it hard to comprehend why someone would think something so idiotic.

It's nonsense, isn't it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Do people really need to add 'in my opinion' to all of their posts? obviously when people make a post on a matter it is their opinion :S

It depends on the post Vicky

[Jack_]

Everyone was fine with him in the house ,even the 2 gays ,so clearly had said nothing wrong or homophobic until BB hung him out to dry ,for no reason whatsoever IN MY OPINION

Fixed this for you

[Livia]

:pat:

Ridiculous.

[Jack_]

Do people really need to add 'in my opinion' to all of their posts? obviously when people make a post on a matter it is their opinion :S

It's completely stupid, I don't get why people say it? Of course it's their opinion, this is a forum, it's for opinions :shrug:

[Livia]

It's completely stupid, I don't get why people say it? Of course it's their opinion, this is a forum, it's for opinions :shrug:

Chuff likes to make an issue of it, but interestingly never uses it herself.

[Jack_]

Chuff likes to make an issue of it, but interestingly never uses it herself.

Spoiler alert of what comes next:



Please stick to discussing the housemates and not forum members

[Beso]

Fixed this for you

Bad patter jack, not nice at all.

[Babayaro.]

Do you need a ladder? Because you seem to be reaching

[Jack_]

Bad patter jack, not nice at all.

Well if one person has to add 'in my opinion' to their post then so does everyone else, surely? Just so we can be clear that everything everyone posts on a forum is their opinion and not the opinion of Dave Benson Phillips?

In my opinion obvs

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jesus Christ is thread real?

No Emma is not a racist and I find it hard to comprehend why someone would think something so idiotic.

You cant criticise chuff and then say its idiotic

you may think so just as chuff thinks so

your opinion carries no more weight just because you think you are 100% right and chuff 100% wrong

[Beso]

Well if one person has to add 'in my opinion' to their post then so does everyone else, surely? Just so we can be clear that everything everyone posts on a forum is their opinion and not the opinion of Dave Benson Phillips?

In my opinion obvs

Just saying it makes you look a bit like a spurting cock when you do it, probably a vast majority of the forums opinion of course

[Jack_]

Just saying it makes you look a bit like a spurting cock when you do it, probably a vast majority of the forums opinion of course

:joker:

Well played

[Amy Jade]

You cant criticise chuff and then say its idiotic

you may think so just as chuff thinks so

your opinion carries no more weight just because you think you are 100% right and chuff 100% wrong

Sorry but I'm pretty sure Chuff's claim Emma is racist has NO weight to it. She's angry at Emma's presenting last night.

Honestly the idea that a person is racist based on her calling out a man (who happens to be black) for his blatant homophobia is idiotic.

[Shaun]

I kinda want to know what Dave Benson Phillips thinks now

[Jack_]

I kinda want to know what Dave Benson Phillips thinks now

Probably that Emma's white supremacist ****ing scum

[ThriceShy]

Sorry but I'm pretty sure Chuff's claim Emma is racist has NO weight to it. She's angry at Emma's presenting last night.

Honestly the idea that a person is racist based on her calling out a man (who happens to be black) for his blatant homophobia is idiotic.

But there is other evidence.

Emma interviewed the white Jim Davidson and never once mentioned the fact that he had become a virtual pariah in the 80s for making homophobic and racist remarks.

[chuff me dizzy]

You cant criticise chuff and then say its idiotic

you may think so just as chuff thinks so

your opinion carries no more weight just because you think you are 100% right and chuff 100% wrong

So true my lovely ,and as you know by now Chuff is NEVER wrong !!!

[chuff me dizzy]

But there is other evidence.

Emma interviewed the white Jim Davidson and never once mentioned the fact that he had become a virtual pariah in the 80s for making homophobic and racist remarks.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Sorry but I'm pretty sure Chuff's claim Emma is racist has NO weight to it. She's angry at Emma's presenting last night.

Honestly the idea that a person is racist based on her calling out a man (who happens to be black) for his blatant homophobia is idiotic.

Emma turned her head away from kissing Winston last night ,Winston who is a black man

[T*]

I am ****ing done with this place

[Jack_]

But there is other evidence.

Emma interviewed the white Jim Davidson and never once mentioned the fact that he had become a virtual pariah in the 80s for making homophobic and racist remarks.

Except for the small matter that Jim Davidson is a comedian and Winston McKenzie is not, and that Jim's comments were - for whatever reason - not brought up within the house.

[chuff me dizzy]

Except for the small matter that Jim Davidson is a comedian and Winston McKenzie is not, and that Jim's comments were - for whatever reason - not brought up within the house.

So being a comedian makes it ok to be homophobic does it ?

[Amy Jade]

Emma turned her head away from kissing Winston last night ,Winston who is a black man

I walked past a black man begging a few days ago I must be racist too

[sampvt]

Except for the small matter that Jim Davidson is a comedian and Winston McKenzie is not, and that Jim's comments were - for whatever reason - not brought up within the house.

FFS reaching

[chuff me dizzy]

I walked past a black man begging a few days ago I must be racist too

Please get back on topic we are discussing Emma Willis being perceived as a racist .... Thanks

[Braden]

No.

She's interviewed many black people with no issue.

[Jack_]

So being a comedian makes it ok to be homophobic does it ?

Comedians tell jokes. Jokes are remarks intended to provoke laughter, often through shock, have no basis in reality, and are not intended to be taken seriously.

And I could've sworn you were a fan of Jim?

[ThriceShy]

Except for the small matter that Jim Davidson is a comedian and Winston McKenzie is not, and that Jim's comments were - for whatever reason - not brought up within the house.

Jim Davidson had made personal remarks about gays. In fact, I seem to remember he had views on gay marriage that were similar to Winstons. He also had pretty much the most racist comedy act in the country. He was despised by all the left wing luvvie types.

He actually made money from homophobia and racism, something you can't accuse Winston of.

And yet Davidson got a free ride, won the show and was feted by Emma.

Is it cos e is white?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I walked past a black man begging a few days ago I must be racist too

he was probably gay as well you vile racist poor-hating homophobe

[chuff me dizzy]

Jim Davidson had made personal remarks about gays. In fact, I seem to remember he had views on gay marriage that were similar to Winstons. He also had pretty much the most racist comedy act in the country. He was despised by all the left wing luvvie types.

He actually made money from homophobia and racism, something you can't accuse Winston of.

And yet Davidson got a free ride, won the show and was feted by Emma.

Is it cos e is white?

Sure is because he's white !!! Remember his Chalky character? I do

[LukeB]

I walked past a black man begging a few days ago I must be racist too

omg you racist person how dare you walk past a black man

:joker: omg the reasons are getting silly and silly

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jim had charm but winston did not

charm gets you far in life

[Jack_]

Jim Davidson had made personal remarks about gays. In fact, I seem to remember he had views on gay marriage that were similar to Winstons. He also had pretty much the most racist comedy act in the country. He was despised by all the left wing luvvie types.

He actually made money from homophobia and racism, something you can't accuse Winston of.

And yet Davidson got a free ride, won the show and was feted by Emma.

Is it cos e is white?

There are definitely undertones of racism from viewers on this show but that's a whole different debate that has been done to death on this forum so let's not go there.

I don't know a lot about Jim Davidson's career, so am unaware if he has made insulting remarks about gay people off-stage in his real life. Feel free to provide me with proof that doesn't involve jokes he's told on a comedy stage which don't count, and I'll be happy to concede defeat

[Cherie]

Jim Davidson had made personal remarks about gays. In fact, I seem to remember he had views on gay marriage that were similar to Winstons. He also had pretty much the most racist comedy act in the country. He was despised by all the left wing luvvie types.

He actually made money from homophobia and racism, something you can't accuse Winston of.

And yet Davidson got a free ride, won the show and was feted by Emma.

Is it cos e is white?

Good point, and I liked Jim on the show

[Amy Jade]

Please get back on topic we are discussing Emma Willis being perceived as a racist .... Thanks

It's perfectly comparable. You know she's not racist your just trying to drag her name through the mud because you're unhappy with her not loving a homophobic idiot.

[Daniel-X]

I love grasping at straws air

[Crimson Dynamo]

There are definitely undertones of racism from viewers on this show but that's a whole different debate that has been done to death on this forum so let's not go there.

I don't know a lot about Jim Davidson's career, so am unaware if he has made insulting remarks about gay people off-stage in his real life. Feel free to provide me with proof that doesn't involve jokes he's told on a comedy stage which don't count, and I'll be happy to concede defeat

to be honest most if not all adults in the 70s were homophobic racists by todays standard

[ThriceShy]

Jim had charm but winston did not

charm gets you far in life


Winston did nothing wrong. He was a black unattractive man, which was enough for the shallow narcissist hags to set about him.

If he was a young white model then his bedroom leering would have all been good fun and his views on gays would not have even been mentioned.

[Pete.]

Emma being racist and Jim having charm? What is this thread?

[Jack_]

to be honest most if not all adults in the 70s were homophobic racists by todays standard

Also true.

[chuff me dizzy]

Winston did nothing wrong. He was a black unattractive man, which was enough for the shallow narcissist hags to set about him.

If he was a young white model then his bedroom leering would have all been good fun and his views on gays would not have even been mentioned.

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Emma being racist and Jim having charm? What is this thread?

Jim won

you dont win without bags of charm and he had that

fact


Emma is no racist but she is guilty of bandwaggoning last night

[chuff me dizzy]

Jim won

you dont win without bags of charm and he had that

fact


Emma is no racist but she is guilty of bandwaggoning last night

That series Emma and Rylans bias towards Jim was sickening, if you remember it was the series they got dragged all over twitter for their bias

[MrWong]

I can't believe Emma's interview of Winston is being hailed as racist.

Anything else that points to her being racist?

I've seen more evidence of racism in a Deana thread.

[reece(:]

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5055/5399805046_0d30e4dd70.jpg

This thread really shouldn't be open still, is it a joke or what?

[Beso]

There are definitely undertones of racism from viewers on this show but that's a whole different debate that has been done to death on this forum so let's not go there.

I don't know a lot about Jim Davidson's career, so am unaware if he has made insulting remarks about gay people off-stage in his real life. Feel free to provide me with proof that doesn't involve jokes he's told on a comedy stage which don't count, and I'll be happy to concede defeat


He had brian dowling in tears by calling him a shirt lifter and a ****.:joker:

[Beso]

That series Emma and Rylans bias towards Jim was sickening, if you remember it was the series they got dragged all over twitter for their bias

She still doing it with family friend david guest this year..fecking laughing at us all as she does it as well.

[Vicky.]

This thread really shouldn't be open still

Tbf we really cannot win. Close threads and people kick off, leave them and people moan. I cleaned this one up twice..and no doubt I will be in the wrong for this too. I have cleaned another thread 4 times so far yet people keep on with the same petty crap..that one will be closed soon if it keeps going as I am ****ing sick.

I hate on-season :joker:

[T*]

I also hate on season

[nonstop]

....no......

[chuff me dizzy]

He had brian dowling in tears by calling him a shirt lifter and a ****.:joker:

Yes he did

[Amy Jade]

I also hate on season

I have a love/hate thing going on

[chuff me dizzy]

Tbf we really cannot win. Close threads and people kick off, leave them and people moan. I cleaned this one up twice..and no doubt I will be in the wrong for this too. I have cleaned another thread 4 times so far yet people keep on with the same petty crap..that one will be closed soon if it keeps going as I am ****ing sick.

I hate on-season :joker:

Why do people who don't agree with OP ask for threads to be closed :conf:? No one makes anyone post on threads or read them I wouldn't dream of asking for a thread to be closed,i would just not bother looking at it ,and admit it ,you LOVE on season ,its not boring is it :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

She still doing it with family friend david guest this year..fecking laughing at us all as she does it as well.

Yes i saw that on Bots !!

[ThriceShy]

Yes he did


I seem to remember he was thrown out of Hell's Kitchen for terrible gay bullying of Brian Dowling, a former BB presenter.

Yet he is allowed to come on and win the show and be fawned over by Emma.

Wonder how Jack explains that?:shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

I seem to remember he was thrown out of Hell's Kitchen for terrible gay bullying of Brian Dowling, a former BB presenter.

Yet he is allowed to come on and win the show and be fawned over by Emma.

Wonder how Jack explains that?:shrug:

Davidson is a vile,evil bully, but played a blinder in his series, he hid all his bigotry and people fell for it,but some of us have longer memories than others

[ThriceShy]

This is the white man that Emma was fawning over:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562756/Jim-Davidson-thrown-out-of-Hells-Kitchen.html

And you are telling me she isn't racist?

[Vicky.]

Why do people who don't agree with OP ask for threads to be closed :conf:? No one makes anyone post on threads or read them I wouldn't dream of asking for a thread to be closed,i would just not bother looking at it ,and admit it ,you LOVE on season ,its not boring is it :joker:

Hmm I will give you that

I love on season sometimes for how busy it is

But I hate the moderation side of it as we really cannot do right for doing wrong :tongue:

[ThriceShy]

There are definitely undertones of racism from viewers on this show but that's a whole different debate that has been done to death on this forum so let's not go there.

I don't know a lot about Jim Davidson's career, so am unaware if he has made insulting remarks about gay people off-stage in his real life. Feel free to provide me with proof that doesn't involve jokes he's told on a comedy stage which don't count, and I'll be happy to concede defeat


I wonder when Jack will be along to concede defeat.:spin:

[Glenn.]

You cant criticise chuff and then say its idiotic

you may think so just as chuff thinks so

your opinion carries no more weight just because you think you are 100% right and chuff 100% wrong

It's extremely idiotic to suggest Emma is racist. She made no comment on his skin colour, his ethnic background. Her issue with was his homophobic opinions.

[ThriceShy]

It's extremely idiotic to suggest Emma is racist. She made no comment on his skin colour, his ethnic background. Her issue with was his homophobic opinions.

So why didn't she have an issue with Jim Davidson calling former BB presenter Brian Dowling a "puff" and a "shirtlifter"?:shrug:

[MB.]

So why didn't she have an issue with Jim Davidson calling former BB presenter Brian Dowling a "puff" and a "shirtlifter"?:shrug:

She probably did, it's just that that was never mentioned on the show (and certainly not by Jim in his VT)

[Glenn.]

So why didn't she have an issue with Jim Davidson calling former BB presenter Brian Dowling a "puff" and a "shirtlifter"?:shrug:

Because he didn't say any of that whilst he was in the house.

Winstons was homophobic in his VT on this show. He then built on that homophobia by refusing to accept his views were wrong. Regardless of whether BB engineered the situation, he still failed to see any wrong in it.

[T*]

She probably did, it's just that that was never mentioned on the show (and certainly not by Jim in his VT)


THIS

[ThriceShy]

She probably did, it's just that that was never mentioned on the show (and certainly not by Jim in his VT)


Why would it need to be mentioned on the show?

That is real homophobia and it was towards someone who was a personal friend and work colleague of Emma. Winston just gave a political opinion.

Jim was allowed to win and was then fawned over when he came out. Which absolutely exposes Emma double standards.

[MB.]

It's odd - you complain that Emma is too unprofessional in her interviews and then you moan that she didn't bring up an entirely irrelevant comment made years ago that hadn't been referenced in any way in his time in the house :unsure:

[chuff me dizzy]

Hmm I will give you that

I love on season sometimes for how busy it is

But I hate the moderation side of it as we really cannot do right for doing wrong :tongue:

Let it all go over your head Vicky !!

[ThriceShy]

Because he didn't say any of that whilst he was in the house.

Winstons was homophobic in his VT on this show. He then built on that homophobia by refusing to accept his views were wrong. Regardless of whether BB engineered the situation, he still failed to see any wrong in it.

So why didn't BB give Jim a task where he had to reveal what he had called brian? Or do they only set up easy black men as fodder for that?

[reece(:]

Why do people who don't agree with OP ask for threads to be closed :conf:? No one makes anyone post on threads or read them I wouldn't dream of asking for a thread to be closed,i would just not bother looking at it ,and admit it ,you LOVE on season ,its not boring is it :joker:
There is in no way that this thread can be serious and appears to be an attempt at baiting/trolling considering Emma has interviewed black people countless times.

[chuff me dizzy]

Why would it need to be mentioned on the show?

That is real homophobia and it was towards someone who was a personal friend and work colleague of Emma. Winston just gave a political opinion.

Jim was allowed to win and was then fawned over when he came out. Which absolutely exposes Emma double standards.

:clap1:

[Jamie89]

Please get back on topic we are discussing Emma Willis being perceived as a racist .... Thanks

LMAO :joker:

Am I going mad, or is this getting quite funny now

[Kazanne]

I also hate on season

So why do you come on the threads? I dont get it,can't you use none BB threads ?

[Glenn.]

So why didn't BB give Jim a task where he had to reveal what he had called brian? Or do they only set up easy black men as fodder for that?

Is this a genuine question?

As I'm sure you'll remember poor Jim had a lot to deal with in the house with hag Linda on his case.

[Beso]

She probably did, it's just that that was never mentioned on the show (and certainly not by Jim in his VT)

You cant just say she probably did when she quite obviously never or she would have mentioned it in his interview cause seemingly it means so much to her:nono:

[Jamie89]

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140430204252/glee/images/2/24/Phoebe_stop_the_madness.gif

[LukeB]

So why do you come on the threads? I dont get it,can't you use none BB threads ?

because he wants to give his opinion on this pathetic thread?

[T*]

So why do you come on the threads? I dont get it,can't you use none BB threads ?


Because sometimes there is good threads
Don't tell me where I belong kazanne

[MB.]

Why would it need to be mentioned on the show?

That is real homophobia and it was towards someone who was a personal friend and work colleague of Emma. Winston just gave a political opinion.

Jim was allowed to win and was then fawned over when he came out. Which absolutely exposes Emma double standards.

How do you know she didn't press him on that off-camera? You'd hate her if she'd brought it up in his interview. And if she'd bring that up, why wouldn't she bring up any of the other highly offensive but irrelevant things he'd said in his past? Anyway, congratulations on completely missing the point of Big Brother

So why didn't BB give Jim a task where he had to reveal what he had called brian? Or do they only set up easy black men as fodder for that?

Because he was the most popular housemate that series and had a chance of winning? Whereas Winston was hated from the word go? It's really not that deep

[T*]

because he wants to give his opinion on this pathetic thread?


This

[Glenn.]

Can we stop referring to Gay adoption as a political opinion. Shouldn't have anything to do with politics. Especially if the likes of homophobic Winston are using it as a shield.

[Amy Jade]

So why do you come on the threads? I dont get it,can't you use none BB threads ?

Why should he have to?

[Ross.]

This thread is hurting my head

[MB.]

(I'd have closed this thread after the first post because we're clearly no further than we were then than we are now, but I guess that's why I'm not and will never be a mod)

[chuff me dizzy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YDyAs5K5rs Watch a real homophobe in action ,who Miss Willis backed all the way through his series and then tell me race didnt come into last night car crash tv show

[reece(:]

It's odd - you complain that Emma is too unprofessional in her interviews and then you moan that she didn't bring up an entirely irrelevant comment made years ago that hadn't been referenced in any way in his time in the house :unsure:
It's picking and choosing to suit agendas :joker::joker:

Emma is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't

[Amy Jade]

Can we stop referring to Gay adoption as a political opinion. Shouldn't have anything to do with politics. Especially if the likes of homophobic Winston are using it as a shield.

:clap1:

He is using politics and religion to hide his blatant homophobia.

[chuff me dizzy]

So why do you come on the threads? I dont get it,can't you use none BB threads ?

Wow consider yourself pack attacked Kaz girl !!!

[ThriceShy]

Is this a genuine question?

As I'm sure you'll remember poor Jim had a lot to deal with in the house with hag Linda on his case.

Seems a bit odd though doesn't it. Winston makes a one off political remark during an election and Bb put it into a task within 2 days of the show starting.

Meanwhile, Jim gets a free pass despite being thrown off a show for using the words "shirtlifter" and "****" to a well loved BB winner and presenter.

The racist agenda is obvious.

[Kazanne]

because he wants to give his opinion on this pathetic thread?

So he likes on season then so he can give his opinion,and when did your name change to Tom:joker: now don't get your knickers in a twist it was a joke ,hence the smilie:laugh:

[bots]

Why should he have to?

well it was him that said he hated on season, there is an easy way to avoid it if he hates it so much and that is to ignore those threads that he hates. Pretty simple really

[Amy Jade]

Now we're 'attacking' by replying?

This is a wind up, I swear.

[Kazanne]

Wow consider yourself pack attacked Kaz girl !!!

Do I care ? hell no it was a simple question.

[Glenn.]

Seems a bit odd though doesn't it. Winston makes a one off political remark during an election and Bb put it into a task within 2 days of the show starting.

Meanwhile, Jim gets a free pass despite being thrown off a show for using the words "shirtlifter" and "****" to a well loved BB winner and presenter.

The racist agenda is obvious.

There it is again. 'Political remark' to justify the homophobia.

I'm not even going to address the rest of the nonsense. Some people just see what they want to. You see racism. I don't. Simple.

[MB.]

Seems a bit odd though doesn't it. Winston makes a one off political remark during an election and Bb put it into a task within 2 days of the show starting.

Meanwhile, Jim gets a free pass despite being thrown off a show for using the words "shirtlifter" and "****" to a well loved BB winner and presenter.

The racist agenda is obvious.

For the last time, Winston's comment was put it in because it was related to the homophobic comment he'd made (by his own choice) in his VT and the controversy surrounding it - that's how the producers of this show tend to do things

[LukeB]

Wow consider yourself pack attacked Kaz girl !!!

the irony of this

[chuff me dizzy]

Do I care ? hell no it was a simple question.

I thought a swarm of bees had landed in TIBB

[Kazanne]

well it was him that said he hated on season, there is an easy way to avoid it if he hates it so much and that is to ignore those threads that he hates. Pretty simple really

Stop talking sense BOTS,it's confusing :hehe:

[ThriceShy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YDyAs5K5rs Watch a real homophobe in action ,who Miss Willis backed all the way through his series and then tell me race didnt come into last night car crash tv show

Oh my god!

He walks up to brian dowling and says "a lot of shirt lifters have the same face don't they?"

:shocked:

And a few years later Emma was crawling all over him as the winner of BB.

[chuff me dizzy]

well it was him that said he hated on season, there is an easy way to avoid it if he hates it so much and that is to ignore those threads that he hates. Pretty simple really

:clap1:

[Kazanne]

I thought a swarm of bees had landed in TIBB


Without the sweetness:joker::joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh my god!

He walks up to brian dowling and says "a lot of shirt lifters have the same face don't they?"

:shocked:

And a few years later Emma was crawling all over him as the winner of BB.

Yup !! Got it in one !!

[chuff me dizzy]

Without the sweetness:joker::joker:

True !!

[reece(:]

Now we're 'attacking' by replying?

This is a wind up, I swear.
I thought that since the first page, and here we are many later.

[ThriceShy]

For the last time, Winston's comment was put it in because it was related to the homophobic comment he'd made (by his own choice) in his VT and the controversy surrounding it - that's how the producers of this show tend to do things

Did Winston edit his VT?

[Vicky.]

OK sorry but this really does need to be closed now. Its definitely ran its course. It will not be reopened either.