His speech was absolutely spot on.

[ThriceShy]

They really are a bunch of vile bullies.

Didn't take long for Daniella to show her true colours.

[Mitchell]

I strongly disagree

[Paul Kersey]

Gay mafia

[Daniel-X]

I can't even bare to look at your threads.

[Samm]

No it wasn't, he just repeated the same **** he's said before and I don't know why you've chosen a horrible homophobic quote to be placed in your sig

[ThriceShy]

I can't even bare to look at your threads.

But you bump them anyway.

[Headie]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a3/76/fe/a376fe705aecc83dc14c44f217ec78a1.gif

[LukeB]

lame

[Moosething]

They just wanted to know the reasoning of his opinions and Danielle offered a valid point.

[ThriceShy]

No it wasn't, he just repeated the same **** he's said before and I don't know why you've chosen a horrible homophobic quote to be placed in your sig

The point of the sig is the contrast. One won BB and one was bullied out.

[Daniel-X]

But you bump them anyway.

Just to let you know to stop making them love.

[ThriceShy]

They just wanted to know the reasoning of his opinions and Danielle offered a valid point.


Why was Danielle sniggering under her breath?

[ThriceShy]

Just to let you know to stop making them love.

Well keep letting me know. Thanks!

[Samm]

Why was Danielle sniggering under her breath?

Because he's laughable

[MrWong]

They really are a bunch of vile bullies.

Didn't take long for Daniella to show her true colours.

What bit?

[Headie]

Why was Danielle sniggering under her breath?

Because he's a joke

[lewis111]

He asked for questions
Daniella asked him a very fair one
He didn't at all answer it he made out like he's had an awful life and loves people but wants to make it more difficult for some people

[lewis111]

Why was Danielle sniggering under her breath?

Cause he started going on about deaf people using body language etc out of no where it was a joke

[lewis111]

I can never tell if the Winston support is serious or bit of bantz

[Daniel-X]

I can never tell if the Winston support is serious or bit of bantz

I should hope it's the latter.

[Glenn.]

Can we stop with the Winston support now. It's disgusting.

[ThriceShy]

It's just sickening the way they all judge him despite the things they have done. You have Daniella and Darren with their coke habits. And Darren with his womanising. And Angie having a threesome before her wedding or whatever it was. And yet they all judge some old bloke for having old fashioned religious views.

Let he who is without sin.

[GiRTh]

He didnt make a speech. He waffled on about his 'struggle' but never got to the heart of what he said. When asked directly he ducked the question..

[Glenn.]

It's just sickening the way they all judge him despite the things they have done. You have Daniella and Darren with their coke habits. And Darren with his womanising. And Angie having a threesome before her wedding or whatever it was. And yet they all judge some old bloke for having old fashioned religious views.

Let he who is without sin.

I'm sorry but anyone that thinks gay people shouldn't adopt doesn't deserve to be treated with respect. Listing everyone else's flaws to make his seem better is pathetic.

[Oliver_W]

Spot on? He didn't even say anything.

[Shaun]

With a sig like the OP's it's kinda obviously a troll so it'd probably best ignored.

[ThriceShy]

I'm sorry but anyone that thinks gay people shouldn't adopt doesn't deserve to be treated with respect. Listing everyone else's flaws to make his seem better is pathetic.

I suspect his view is shared by at least 50% of the population. He has done nothing personally wrong to anyone.

[T*]

vile troll

[T*]

@winston

[AProducer'sWetDream]

I suspect his view is shared by at least 50% of the population. He has done nothing personally wrong to anyone.

From YouGov:

"In Britain, 53% of people believe gay couples should be permitted to adopt children, 31% are opposed and 16% don’t know. "

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/01/11/french-opposed-gay-adoption/

[Jamie89]

I suspect his view is shared by at least 50% of the population. He has done nothing personally wrong to anyone.

http://rs1109.pbsrc.com/albums/h423/ChronosCat/tumblr_lzd6dtGPHP1qinqr0o1_500.gif~c200

[ThriceShy]

From YouGov:

"In Britain, 53% of people believe gay couples should be permitted to adopt children, 31% are opposed and 16% don’t know. "

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/01/11/french-opposed-gay-adoption/



So only about half believe it should be permitted. Why is Winston a pariah then?

[AProducer'sWetDream]

So only about half believe it should be permitted. Why is Winston a pariah then?

Actually its over half... 53% means over half.

Only 31% are opposed- and remember being 'opposed' is not the same as likening it to child abuse.

EDIT: Also, this poll was done in 2013 so I'd have thought the number in support would have increased because, you know, progress.

[T*]

This thread is embarrassing

[zakman440]

This is coming from the founder of getdannyout.com - I'm afraid that I can't take this seriously.

[Glenn.]

I suspect his view is shared by at least 50% of the population. He has done nothing personally wrong to anyone.

V cool and v interesting

[MrWong]

It's just sickening the way they all judge him despite the things they have done. You have Daniella and Darren with their coke habits. And Darren with his womanising. And Angie having a threesome before her wedding or whatever it was. And yet they all judge some old bloke for having old fashioned religious views.

Let he who is without sin.

Yeah but which part of his speech did you think was spot on?

[T*]

This is coming from the founder of getdannyout.com - I'm afraid that I can't take this seriously.


that is so sad omg

[AProducer'sWetDream]

This is coming from the founder of getdannyout.com - I'm afraid that I can't take this seriously.

:joker:

[ThriceShy]

This is coming from the founder of getdannyout.com - I'm afraid that I can't take this seriously.

Eh? I didn't found getdannyout.:laugh:

[MrWong]

From YouGov:

"In Britain, 53% of people believe gay couples should be permitted to adopt children, 31% are opposed and 16% don’t know. "

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/01/11/french-opposed-gay-adoption/

Winston's defenders will move the goal posts now you've shown them to be wrong.

[ThriceShy]

Yeah but which part of his speech did you think was spot on?

The part about freedom of speech. You know, that part.

[MrWong]

The part about freedom of speech. You know, that part.

Who has stopped him speaking?

[ThriceShy]

Winston's defenders will move the goal posts now you've shown them to be wrong.

Those stats absolutely support my position. Only 53% agree with gay adoption. So Winston's views are not the ridiculous outlandish views that his detractors are trying to portray.

Is Emma Willis going to go round and tell off the 20 million people in the UK that specifically oppose gay adoption?

[ThriceShy]

Who has stopped him speaking?

Nobody. His views have been welcomed with open ears. He is loved and still in the house.:laugh:

[GiRTh]

With a sig like the OP's it's kinda obviously a troll so it'd probably best ignored.The 2nd quote from Jim Davidson? I dont even know what that means. :shrug:

[ThriceShy]

The 2nd quote from Jim Davidson? I dont even know what that means. :shrug:

It is something he said to Brian Dowling before being thrown out of hell's kitchen for homophobia.

[reece(:]

End this trolling

[Jamie89]

This thread is embarrassing

This whole day has been embarrassing on tibb tbh

[MrWong]

Those stats absolutely support my position. Only 53% agree with gay adoption. So Winston's views are not the ridiculous outlandish views that his detractors are trying to portray.

Is Emma Willis going to go round and tell off the 20 million people in the UK that specifically oppose gay adoption?

No they don't and as the survey is a few years old they support your position even less now as bigoted views die out.

[joeysteele]

No it wasn't, he just repeated the same **** he's said before and I don't know why you've chosen a horrible homophobic quote to be placed in your sig

I don't think he said anything of note in the whole speech.
No wonder most walked away, had he said he was wrong to even just tolerate the word abuse as to gay adoption, that would have been a start.

I agree with you, he was just saying the same with no retractions or even any great understanding as to others feelings.
In fact it came across more like he was attempting justifying the way and what he had said in the quote.

[GiRTh]

It is something he said to Brian Dowling before being thrown out of hell's kitchen for homophobia.Still dont get it. What was he referring to and why do you think its such a killer quote that you've put it in your signature.

[ThriceShy]

No they don't and as the survey is a few years old they support your position even less now as bigoted views die out.

According to the best stats we have that one of your lads posted, 31% of the country specifically oppose gay adoption.

In light of that, why is Winston being treated like he is?

Hint: The correct answer is that channel 5 want controversy and ratings.

[MrWong]

Nobody. His views have been welcomed with open ears. He is loved and still in the house.:laugh:

So nobody has stopped him speaking.

Bit of an irrelevant rant then really.

[Mitchell]

According to the best stats we have that one of your lads posted, 31% of the country specifically oppose gay adoption.

In light of that, why is Winston being treated like he is?

Hint: The correct answer is that channel 5 want controversy and ratings.

I can bet that the majority of those 31% don't compare it to child abuse.

[ThriceShy]

Still dont get it. What was he referring to and why do you think its such a killer quote that you've put it in your signature.

It is the contrast between him and Winston.

Winston has been treated like a pariah for giving a view on gay adoption. But Jim Davidson won BB and was feted by Emma and Rylan, despite the fact that he was kicked out of hell's kitchen for homophobic abuse of brian dowling.

I don't know how I can explain it in any simpler terms.

[ThriceShy]

I can bet that the majority of those 31% don't compare it to child abuse.

They might not have specifically articulated those words but they obviously think it is wrong or unhealthy in some way.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

According to the best stats we have that one of your lads posted, 31% of the country specifically oppose gay adoption.

In light of that, why is Winston being treated like he is?

Hint: The correct answer is that channel 5 want controversy and ratings.

Opposing gay adoption is acceptable (although an incredibly outdated view that I strongly disagree with). Likening it to child abuse is disgusting and offensive, and that is why people have reacted so negatively to Winston's despicable attitude.

[ThriceShy]

So nobody has stopped him speaking.

Bit of an irrelevant rant then really.

So you are fine with people expressing such views. Glad we got that sorted.

We can move on now.:spin:

[Mitchell]

They might not have specifically articulated those words but they obviously think it is wrong or unhealthy in some way.

Thats their opinion, I strongly disagree with them, but thats their views, what I have the biggest problem with is that he compared it to child abuse, CHILD ABUSE.

[ThriceShy]

Thats their opinion, I strongly disagree with them, but thats their views, what I have the biggest problem with is that he compared it to child abuse, CHILD ABUSE.

Child abuse is a catch-all term. I perhaps wouldn't have chose those words in a public arena. But I stand by my view that a child not having a mother is not an ideal healthy situation.

To deliberately place a child in a motherless family is not the healthiest thing for the child.

[Mitchell]

Child abuse is a catch-all term. I perhaps wouldn't have chose those words in a public arena. But I stand by my view that a child not having a mother is not an ideal healthy situation.

To deliberately place a child in a motherless family is not the healthiest thing for the child.
I actually think putting a child in an environment where their parental figures have views like these is overwhelmingly more damaging.

[letmein]

Winston who?

Signed,

Everyone everywhere tomorrow

:dance:

[Glenn.]

Child abuse is a catch-all term. I perhaps wouldn't have chose those words in a public arena. But I stand by my view that a child not having a mother is not an ideal healthy situation.

To deliberately place a child in a motherless family is not the healthiest thing for the child.

Are you actually a troll? This is the most ridiculous post I have ever read on here.

[Beso]

It was ****e.

[GiRTh]

It is the contrast between him and Winston.

Winston has been treated like a pariah for giving a view on gay adoption. But Jim Davidson won BB and was feted by Emma and Rylan, despite the fact that he was kicked out of hell's kitchen for homophobic abuse of brian dowling.

I don't know how I can explain it in any simpler terms.Oh I see. Its to show the irony of how JD was treated in HElls Kitchen as opposed to CBB.

[MrWong]

I suspect his view is shared by at least 50% of the population. He has done nothing personally wrong to anyone.

According to the best stats we have that one of your lads posted, 31% of the country specifically oppose gay adoption.

In light of that, why is Winston being treated like he is?

Hint: The correct answer is that channel 5 want controversy and ratings.

So no where near the 'at least 50%' claim then. That 31% will only get smaller as archaic views die out.

Did they compare it to child abuse?

[Beso]

So no where near the 'at least 50%' claim then. That 31% will only get smaller as archaic views die out.

Did they compare it to child abuse?

Obviously people are not going into muslim communities with their clip boards.

[ThriceShy]

So no where near the 'at least 50%' claim then. That 31% will only get smaller as archaic views die out.

Did they compare it to child abuse?

Did you miss the words "I suspect" in my original post?

31% is still a huge number of people. In fact it is about 20 million people. Boy, Emma will have her work cut out telling them all off. What a brave little soldier she is.:laugh:

Why don't you ask them if they compare it to child abuse?

[ThriceShy]

Obviously people are not going into muslim communities with their clip boards.


This is an important point. 100% of muslims think homosexuality is wrong and it is entirely based on their religion.

But the bizarre irony is that Christians aren't allowed to believe it in a Christian country but muslims are.

In fact, this presents a bit of a dilemma for the leftists because they are programmed to defend muslims but what if someone criticises muslims for hating gays? Will the leftists explode?

[Ant.]

ThriceShy would post such bull****

[MrWong]

So you are fine with people expressing such views. Glad we got that sorted.

We can move on now.:spin:

So he was prattling on about free speech for no reason.

The speech was a load of bollox. He rambled on about being brash and bold, being a black English man, the **** about free speech and something about men in the army. He finished by asking for no one to judge him.

[lewis111]

This is an important point. 100% of muslims think homosexuality is wrong and it is entirely based on their religion.

But the bizarre irony is that Christians aren't allowed to believe it in a Christian country but muslims are.

In fact, this presents a bit of a dilemma for the leftists because they are programmed to defend muslims but what if someone criticises muslims for hating gays? Will the leftists explode?

No one said what people can and can't belive though? It's the fact he compared it to CHILD ABUSE that's the main issue.
I'm sure if that card about him said "is against same sex adoption" the outrage would be much smaller. Most people aren't annoyed by his belife but his ridiculous ideas about it

[ThriceShy]

So he was prattling on about free speech for no reason.

The speech was a load of bollox. He rambled on about being brash and bold, being a black English man, the **** about free speech and something about men in the army. He finished by asking for no one to judge him.

Is that why leftists hate him? Because he is in a minority (black) but still dares have an opinion about another minority?

Starting to make sense this.

[lewis111]

But yea his speech was ridiculous he asked for 15 mins of questions then answered none of them just talked about his soul

[MrWong]

Did you miss the words "I suspect" in my original post?

31% is still a huge number of people. In fact it is about 20 million people. Boy, Emma will have her work cut out telling them all off. What a brave little soldier she is.:laugh:

Why don't you ask them if they compare it to child abuse?


You were shown otherwise so at least now you won't make that claim again.

[MrWong]

Is that why leftists hate him? Because he is in a minority (black) but still dares have an opinion about another minority?

Starting to make sense this.

What? :joker:

He's hated for his bigoted views.

[reece(:]

I actually think putting a child in an environment where their parental figures have views like these is overwhelmingly more damaging.
This x100

I'd put a child with a gay couple over these dinosaur views every time.

[reece(:]

What? :joker:

He's hated for his bigoted views.
The straw grasping has reached new highs

Time to abandon ship

http://i.imgur.com/0Rw4JEw.gif

[ThriceShy]

You were shown otherwise so at least now you won't make that claim again.

I didn't make a claim. I said I suspected that 50% would be against. I was wrong. But as it was only a guess, who cares?

As it turns out, a kind forum member showed me that a huge 31% (20 million people) are against it and I will use that figure as fact in future.


See how you can actually learn something and progress in debate?

[ThriceShy]

What? :joker:

He's hated for his bigoted views.

So why wasn't Jim Davidson hated for actually slinging homophobic abuse at Brian Dowling?

[reece(:]

So why wasn't Jim Davidson hated for actually slinging homophobic abuse at Brian Dowling?
This was not touched on in the house nor referenced to. The past was left in the past with Jim but Winston's actions and comments were made/backed up in the house.

Stop the excuses now :pat:

[Ross.]

The straw grasping has reached new highs

Time to abandon ship

http://i.imgur.com/0Rw4JEw.gif

:joker:

[jet]

I thought his speech was cringeworthy. He was loving having an audience and prattling on about himself. Who does he think he is, the arrogant little twat.
"You can put your hands up if you have a question and I'll give you all 15 minutes. WTF? He's a joke. :laugh:

[AProducer'sWetDream]

"You can put your hands up if you have a question and I'll give you all 15 minutes. WTF? He's a joke. :laugh:

He reminded me of primary school teacher trying to control their class. :joker:

[EspeonBB]

How embarrassing

[MrWong]

This was not touched on in the house nor referenced to. The past was left in the past with Jim but Winston's actions and comments were made/backed up in the house.

Stop the excuses now :pat:

This.

I can't be arsed to reply.

[jet]

How embarrassing

Wasn't it? I could hardly bear to watch. Awful.

[ThriceShy]

Brian Dowling was a friend and colleague of Emma. Jim Davidson reduced him to tears with words like "shirtlifter" and "****". Yet emma was all over jim Davidson. Funny that.

Almost like she doesn't really give a toss about homophobia and was just slating Winston for the contriversy.

[Glenn.]

Wasn't Hell's Kitchen on like 12yrs ago

[smudgie]

I didn't make a claim. I said I suspected that 50% would be against. I was wrong. But as it was only a guess, who cares?

As it turns out, a kind forum member showed me that a huge 31% (20 million people) are against it and I will use that figure as fact in future.


See how you can actually learn something and progress in debate?

Surely if is only 31% of people asked, not the 20 million, that would mean every adult and child in Britain had answered the question/poll.

[ThriceShy]

Wasn't Hell's Kitchen on like 12yrs ago


No it was on in 2007.

Does time make a difference? In 12 years will Winstons comments be OK?

[letmein]

Winston is one of the dumbest people on the face on the Earth.

[Glenn.]

No it was on in 2007.

Does time make a difference? In 12 years will Winstons comments be OK?

So 9yrs ago then. About the same time everyone stopped caring.

[ThriceShy]

Surely if is only 31% of people asked, not the 20 million, that would mean every adult and child in Britain had answered the question/poll.



I suggest you learn how polls work. They take a representative sample and then extrapolate to the whole population.

If you really want to argue it doesn't reflect the views of the whole public then that means the 53% figure also has to be rejected.

Do you want to go with that?

[smudgie]

I suggest you learn how polls work. They take a representative sample and then extrapolate to the whole population.

If you really want to argue it doesn't reflect the views of the whole public then that means the 53% figure also has to be rejected.

Do you want to go with that?

Yep, if it makes it easier for you.

[ThriceShy]

So 9yrs ago then. About the same time everyone stopped caring.


it was 7 years before jim Davidson appeared in CBB.

So are you saying in 7 years Winstons comments won't matter any more. Fair enough.

[Glenn.]

Anyone that votes against equality is a douchebag so I don't quite get the argument. Are you sayin because so many people agree with winstons ignorant homophobic views that makes them correct? It doesn't.

[ThriceShy]

Yep, if it makes it easier for you.


Great, so I will go back to guessing that 50% are against.

[sampvt]

Brian Dowling was a friend and colleague of Emma. Jim Davidson reduced him to tears with words like "shirtlifter" and "****". Yet emma was all over jim Davidson. Funny that.

Almost like she doesn't really give a toss about homophobia and was just slating Winston for the contriversy.

Or maybe she thought that Jim had a fan base and dissing him would backfire, but Winston was a sacrificial lamb laid out for her to butcher according to the wishes of her puppet masters and she tried but failed miserably as both an interviewer and a person.

Emma picked and prayed on the weak and destroyed man before her but sadly for her, he fought back and made her look incredibly nasty. Anyway if she had have gone at Davidson like that he would have taken her to school and left parts of her all over the cutting room floor. Davidson is and was a master deceptive and knew how to play the game, Winston was like a kid in the street beaten up by 14 other kids and the school bully came in too early thinking he was punched out.

[ThriceShy]

Anyone that votes against equality is a douchebag so I don't quite get the argument. Are you sayin because so many people agree with winstons ignorant homophobic views that makes them correct? It doesn't.

I am saying it makes the treatment of him bizarre. Especially as another CBB winner has demonstrated real homophobia on TV.

[Glenn.]

it was 7 years before jim Davidson appeared in CBB.

So are you saying in 7 years Winstons comments won't matter any more. Fair enough.
Jim Davidson appeared on an entirely different show on a completely different channel. Of course something that happened 7yrs previous wasn't going to be mentioned. On what basis would it be? If this is literally your side of the debate it's pretty poor.

Winstons behaviour and ignorant views that he expressed on the show he was evicted from are what he is being judged on. Is that so difficult to understand?

[Vicky.]

Jim Davidson appeared on an entirely different show on a completely different channel. Of course something that happened 7yrs previous wasn't going to be mentioned. On what basis would it be? If this is literally your side of the debate it's pretty poor.

Winstons behaviour and ignorant views that he expressed on the show he was evicted from are what he is being judged on. Is that so difficult to understand?

Tbf though, Winstons was only said on the show because BB brought it up. I guess it could be argued that they could have done a task designed to out Jim the same.

I didn't watch Jims series nor do I know much about the guy but I think this may be part of the issue.


As for the OP. I think Winstons speech was a load of waffle. He could have used it to explain a bit but no, he went off on a tangent about irrelevant stuff then told the others to put their hands up (!) to ask questions. I don't think the issue was that he was against gay adoption, more the child abuse comment..whcih is understandable.

Davids 'ANYONE should be able to adopt' amused me slightly though....anyone? Really? :laugh:

[ThriceShy]

Jim Davidson appeared on an entirely different show on a completely different channel. Of course something that happened 7yrs previous wasn't going to be mentioned. On what basis would it be? If this is literally your side of the debate it's pretty poor.

Winstons behaviour and ignorant views that he expressed on the show he was evicted from are what he is being judged on. Is that so difficult to understand?


He didn't express them on the show. He gave a political opinion during an election campaign, 7 months before the show.

On the other hand, Jim Davidson has had a reputation for 40 years of being a homophobe and racist. He was thrown off a show for abusing a former presenter of BB.

If you don't find a strange disparity in their treatment then I can't help you, I'm afraid.

[Glenn.]

Tbf though, Winstons was only said on the show because BB brought it up. I guess it could be argued that they could have done a task designed to out Jim the same.

I didn't watch Jims series nor do I know much about the guy but I think this may be part of the issue.


As for the OP. I think Winstons speech was a load of waffle. He could have used it to explain a bit but no, he went off on a tangent about irrelevant stuff then told the others to put their hands up (!) to ask questions. I don't think the issue was that he was against gay adoption, more the child abuse comment..whcih is understandable.

Davids 'ANYONE should be able to adopt' amused me slightly though....anyone? Really? :laugh:

He didn't express them on the show. He gave a political opinion during an election campaign, 7 months before the show.

On the other hand, Jim Davidson has had a reputation for 40 years of being a homophobe and racist. He was thrown off a show for abusing a former presenter of BB.

If you don't find a strange disparity in their treatment then I can't help you, I'm afraid.

Everyone seems to be forgetting the homophobic slurs in his VT? Asks his chance to put the adoption thing down as paper talk. Instead he proudly admitted it and refused to back down. Regardless of his ignorant election campaign, his behaviour and attitude is unacceptable.

[Amy Jade]

I respect your opinion that he was right.

I disagree and think he was talking a load of ****.

[Glenn.]

I don't respect people who agree with ignorant homophobes

[ThriceShy]

I don't respect people who agree with ignorant homophobes

So you don't respect Emma then as she was happy to cosy up with homophobe jim Davidson.

[Glenn.]

So you don't respect Emma then as she was happy to cosy up with homophobe jim Davidson.

Not once have I said I do

[Glenn.]

Stop dragging Jim Davidson into your weak ass argument.

[Amy Jade]

So you don't respect Emma then as she was happy to cosy up with homophobe jim Davidson.

You keep saying this but Jim said that about 10 years ago and he never said anything like it during his stay in the house so he could neither retract or confirm his view.

Winston admitted he said and still thought a gay couple adopting was child abuse - the homophobic aspect aside that is a disgusting view to carry - likening him to Jim makes Winston no better.

[ThriceShy]

Stop dragging Jim Davidson into your weak ass argument.

Makes it a bit difficult for you doesn't it.:laugh:

[Vicky.]

Everyone seems to be forgetting the homophobic slurs in his VT? Asks his chance to put the adoption thing down as paper talk. Instead he proudly admitted it and refused to back down. Regardless of his ignorant election campaign, his behaviour and attitude is unacceptable.

Nope not forgetting that. I thought the main issue was the child abuse thing though. Which was actually brought up by BB

I suspect as they were pissed off that Winston had not been as homophobic as they wishes him to be during his stay inside the house up til then :p

[Glenn.]

Makes it a bit difficult for you doesn't it.:laugh:

No it just makes no sense. It's completely irrelevant.

I'd understand if Jim was homophobic on big brother but he wasn't. The two don't compare.

[reece(:]

Jim Davidson argument is completely irrelevant, as was the Katie Hopkins one.

[Glenn.]

Nope not forgetting that. I thought the main issue was the child abuse thing though. Which was actually brought up by BB

I suspect as they were pissed off that Winston had not been as homophobic as they wishes him to be during his stay inside the house up til then :p

Which is fair enough and I don't really dispute it. But Winston could have had it backfire on them and denied it. Instead proudly admitted it and didn't back down from it. There's no difference. Nothing changes what an awful person he is regardless.

[Beso]

Everyone seems to be forgetting the homophobic slurs in his VT? Asks his chance to put the adoption thing down as paper talk. Instead he proudly admitted it and refused to back down. Regardless of his ignorant election campaign, his behaviour and attitude is unacceptable.

If you're offended by his jokey backs to the wall comment then you need to get a better grip on reality.

[Glenn.]

If you're offended by his jokey backs to the wall comment then you need to get a better grip on reality.
Jokey or not, it's still offensive and homophobic.

[waterhog]

They really are a bunch of vile bullies.

Didn't take long for Daniella to show her true colours.


some times I get hings wrong - you are like me thriceshy - do you write poetry ?

[EspeonBB]

Jim Davidson being scum doesn't make Winston any less justified in his homophobia just saying

[Amy Jade]

If you're offended by his jokey backs to the wall comment then you need to get a better grip on reality.

It wasn't a joke though he's made that abundantly clear hasn't he

[Beso]

Jokey or not, it's still offensive and homophobic.

is it heck as like.

[T*]

It wasn't a joke though he's made that abundantly clear hasn't he

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[Beso]

It wasn't a joke though he's made that abundantly clear hasn't he

I despair if you actually believed he thought he was at risk of being bummed.

[reece(:]

It was incredibly offensive :conf:

[EspeonBB]

I guess likening gay adoption to child abuse is 'joking' now too!

[Glenn.]

I despair if you actually believed he thought he was at risk of being bummed.

my God

[Beso]

It was incredibly offensive :conf:

How was it reece? Why did it offend you so much?

[Amy Jade]

I despair if you actually believed he thought he was at risk of being bummed.

It's not that he believed that he would it's that he actually said it and has since said even more to verify he is in fact a homophobe.

I hate labeling but it's very just in this case.

[ThriceShy]

Jokey or not, it's still offensive and homophobic.

So why did they let an offensive homophobe into the house?:shrug:

[reece(:]

How was it reece? Why did it offend you so much?
That he was pushing those views out on a public platform as if gay people were disease

It's highly offensive and after hearing it I think I''d be the one keeping my back to a wall near that vile man

[reece(:]

So why did they let an offensive homophobe into the house?:shrug:
Because the producers love shock value, this has already been established.

[MrWong]

I despair if you actually believed he thought he was at risk of being bummed.

What's funny is that he made a joke about gays being predatory when he was the one with the wandering hands and leering at a hm to the point that they were made to feel uncomfortable.

[Glenn.]

So why did they let an offensive homophobe into the house?:shrug:

Because it's 'good tv'
The same reason they allowed Katie Hopkins in

[Beso]

It's not that he believed that he would it's that he actually said it and has since said even more to verify he is in fact a homophobe.

I hate labeling but it's very just in this case.

Well surely if he didnt believe he would be then it must have obviously been a jokey throw away comment. Honestly your views are doing more harm than good for gay rights etc.

[Glenn.]

Well surely if he didnt believe he would be then it must have obviously been a jokey throw away comment. Honestly your views are doing more harm than good for gay rights etc.

What would you say winstons views are doing for the gay community then? I'm intrigued.

[reece(:]

What's funny is that he made a joke about gays being predatory when he was the one with the wandering hands and leering at a hm to the point that they were made to feel uncomfortable.
:clap1:

[Beso]

That he was pushing those views out on a public platform as if gay people were disease

It's highly offensive and after hearing it I think I''d be the one keeping my back to a wall near that vile man

The only people pushing those views out on a public platform were bb.

[T*]

What's funny is that he made a joke about gays being predatory when he was the one with the wandering hands and leering at a hm to the point that they were made to feel uncomfortable.


:clap2:

[ThriceShy]

What's funny is that he made a joke about gays being predatory when he was the one with the wandering hands and leering at a hm to the point that they were made to feel uncomfortable.

After the way Rylan treated him on BOTS, I think he was right to be nervous.

[T*]

Today has been a new low for TiBB tbh

[Amy Jade]

Well surely if he didnt believe he would be then it must have obviously been a jokey throw away comment. Honestly your views are doing more harm than good for gay rights etc.

How am I harming gay rights? I believe sexuality should have no basis on how you feel about a person.

You're the one supporting a man who believes a happy couple should not be allowed to adopt and give a child a happy loving home based purely on their sexuality.

[T*]

After the way Rylan treated him on BOTS, I think he was right to be nervous.


You're disgusting

[Beso]

What would you say winstons views are doing for the gay community then? I'm intrigued.

Absolutely **** all, same as they are doing for anyone anti gay.

[ThriceShy]

You're disgusting

Did you watch it?

[Glenn.]

What's funny is that he made a joke about gays being predatory when he was the one with the wandering hands and leering at a hm to the point that they were made to feel uncomfortable.

Dirty homophobic pig with his disgusting wandering hands

[Vicky.]

Because it's 'good tv'
The same reason they allowed Katie Hopkins in

And to nearly win :umm2:

What on earth happened that year...

Never thought I would say it, but thank god for katie price and her loyal fans

[ThriceShy]

Dirty homophobic pig with his disgusting wandering hands

He didn't invade anyone's space in the way that Rylan invaded his. Rylan has always given me the creeps to be fair.

[reece(:]

Today has been a new low for TiBB tbh
I agree, quite tragic

[Glenn.]

He didn't invade anyone's space in the way that Rylan invaded his. Rylan has always given me the creeps to be fair.

He leered at Nancy whilst she was undressing. Whether he invaded her space isn't the argument. Like queen Emma stated, he could have been a gentleman and turn away.

[Amy Jade]

He didn't invade anyone's space in the way that Rylan invaded his. Rylan has always given me the creeps to be fair.

He tried to hug Nancy and encouraged Tiffany into his bed...did you actually watch? I'm not sure if this is trolling now tbh which is kind of sad

[Beso]

How am I harming gay rights? I believe sexuality should have no basis on how you feel about a person.

You're the one supporting a man who believes a happy couple should not be allowed to adopt and give a child a happy loving home based purely on their sexuality.

He actually believes that they should be allowed because the people of the nation have made the law that they can, if you would just get past the hate you might see that.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

After the way Rylan treated him on BOTS, I think he was right to be nervous.

:bored: Vile.

[Josy]

His speech was basically 'Me me me, I, I, I, suffered' that's all I heard.

You would think he would show some compassion to others that have gone through suffering in their lives then since he claims to have been through suffering himself.

[T*]

His speech was basically 'Me me me, I, I, I, suffered' that's all I heard.



You would think he would show some compassion to others that have gone through suffering in their lives then since he claims to have been through suffering himself.


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[ThriceShy]

He leered at Nancy whilst she was undressing. Whether he invaded her space isn't the argument. Like queen Emma stated, he could have been a gentleman and turn away.

How dare he look at someone! The vile evil man. He should cast his eyes permanently to the floor so that no delicate flowers ever have to be looked at by an unattractive black man.

This place really has gone weird today.

He looked at Nancy, Rylan got into his personal space and gyrated his arse in his face. Which is worse in your opinion?

[Amy Jade]

He actually believes that they should be allowed because the people of the nation have made the law that they can, if you would just get past the hate you might see that.

You are as evasive at actually answering questions as Winston is.

He said and he confessed to twice saying gay people should NOT be allowed to adopt because it was child abuse.

How am I hurting gay rights? I really don't understand that comment at all and find you accusing me of anything of the like tbh

[Glenn.]

How dare he look at someone! The vile evil man. He should cast his eyes permanently to the floor so that no delicate flowers ever have to be looked at by an unattractive black man.

This place really has gone weird today.

He looked at Nancy, Rylan got into his personal space and gyrated his arse in his face. Which is worse in your opinion?

He literally stared at her undressing. Don't be ridiculously pedantic.

[Beso]

You are as evasive at actually answering questions as Winston is.

He said and he confessed to twice saying gay people should NOT be allowed to adopt because it was child abuse.

How am I hurting gay rights? I really don't understand that comment at all and find you accusing me of anything of the like tbh

A lot of my friends are gay, a couple of them are gay activists.

I was speaking to them about it all today and they reckon the best thing is just to keep quiet and let him make himself look as stupid as his adoption comment was. All the moaning and bitching according to them is making the gay community look like a load of moaning, poor us sad cases.

[Beso]

He literally stared at her undressing. Don't be ridiculously pedantic.

We didnt actually get to see where he was staring.

[Glenn.]

We didnt actually get to see where he was staring.

She said she felt uncomfortable. It's pretty obvious where he was staring.

[Iceman]

She said she felt uncomfortable. It's pretty obvious where he was staring.

I wouldn't even bother. The reaching in here is hilarious

[Glenn.]

I know I'm howling with laughter

[Beso]

She said she felt uncomfortable. It's pretty obvious where he was staring.

Yes but that came from someone who loves herself that much that she thinks all men fancy her so for me I'm afraid it means absolutely nothing that she said that.

And unless there is photographic evidence then I'm afraid that you, as your chum iceman likes to say are reaching.

[Iceman]

Yes but that came from someone who loves herself that much that she thinks all men fancy her so for me I'm afraid it means absolutely nothing that she said that.

And unless there is photographic evidence then I'm afraid that you, as your chum iceman likes to say are reaching.

Nope just you reaching.

[Glenn.]

Yes but that came from someone who loves herself that much that she thinks all men fancy her so for me I'm afraid it means absolutely nothing that she said that.

And unless there is photographic evidence then I'm afraid that you, as your chum iceman likes to say are reaching.

Omfg. I'm screaming.

[Beso]

Nope just you reaching.

Stop baiting, you should know better.

[Glenn.]

I think this can be closed now. I'm sure there's enough posts that disagree with the OP now. End of discussion.

[Paul Kersey]

Funny thing. Winston is out. Still mob wants to hang him.

[T*]

Stop baiting, you should know better.


Don't talk to a moderator like that, you should know better.

[Paul Kersey]

Don't talk to a moderator like that, you should know better.

you too

[Vicky.]

OK this thread seems to have run its course now. Another descended into rambling and pointless posts/insults/arguing :bored:

Today has been a bad day for this forum.