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zakman440
11-01-2016, 12:43 PM
David Bowie's first wife Angie Bowie has decided to stay in the Celebrity Big Brother house after learning of his death off camera.
Celebrity Big Brother said support is available for Angie Bowie and she can leave the show at any time.
CBB said Ms Bowie was told "by her representatives" and opted to continue to participate in the reality programme, which otherwise excludes the celebrity members from news of the outside world.
"The decision to remain in the house is entirely her choice, and she has been given the option to leave at any time if she changes her mind," the programme confirmed.
"Appropriate support will be available to Angie at any time if needed.”
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2016-01-11/david-bowie-dies-aged-69-following-cancer-battle/
I hope she's okay.
Niamh.
11-01-2016, 12:45 PM
Bad move I think, I hope she doesn't use this as an opportunity to bad mouth him, that would be in very poor taste
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2016, 12:45 PM
Wow ,hard faced cow !!!!!!
Tarryn
11-01-2016, 12:48 PM
It's obvious it was a bad divorce with lot's of ill feelings so I don't really get why she would leave the house anyway.
When was the last time she saw him ?.
Lostie!
11-01-2016, 12:48 PM
Wow ,hard faced cow !!!!!!
:umm2:
But don't let a bit of tact and decency get in the way of a chance to have a good old go at someone.
Xtopher
11-01-2016, 12:49 PM
Hope she's doing good.
Vicky.
11-01-2016, 12:50 PM
Bad move I think, I hope she doesn't use this as an opportunity to bad mouth him, that would be in very poor taste
Have a feeling she may all of a sudden be really fond of him and seeking sympathy
I hope this doesn't happen, but I can see it :/
Niamh.
11-01-2016, 12:50 PM
It's obvious it was a bad divorce with lot's of ill feelings so I don't really get why she would leave the house anyway.
When was the last time she saw him ?.
Well, for her sons sake I would have thought? Her child just lost his dad, I know they're not on good term but in a situation like this, shouldn't that be put aside or atleast she should try to be there for him?
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2016, 12:51 PM
Well, for her sons sake I would have thought? Her child just lost his dad, I know they're not on good term but in a situation like this, shouldn't that be put aside or atleast she should try to be there for him?
My feelings too
Stormy
11-01-2016, 12:55 PM
It's obvious it was a bad divorce with lot's of ill feelings so I don't really get why she would leave the house anyway.
When was the last time she saw him ?.
I agree. I'm not surprised she chose to stay. They haven't been together in 25+ years...and looks like they (her and her ex & son) have not really had any type of contact or relationship since they split.
I don't expect her to be distraught nor would I hold it against her. It was a long time ago.
smudgie
11-01-2016, 12:55 PM
Don't see any reason for her to be slated for it. Her choice.
Her and David were over a very long time ago, as long as she doesn't say anything disrespectful about him I can't see a problem.
If her and her 45 year old son have had no contact for decades I can't imagine either of them needing to rush into each other's arms for comfort.:shrug:
joeysteele
11-01-2016, 12:55 PM
Well, for her sons sake I would have thought? Her child just lost his dad, I know they're not on good term but in a situation like this, shouldn't that be put aside or atleast she should try to be there for him?
Yes, even if he still shuns her, she should make herself available, a death can do strange things.
I think she will regret not at the least clearing the decks just in case she could have been given even the slightest chance to be there,and for 'HER' own son too.
Tarryn
11-01-2016, 12:57 PM
Well, for her sons sake I would have thought? Her child just lost his dad, I know they're not on good term but in a situation like this, shouldn't that be put aside or atleast she should try to be there for him?
From what she said on the opening night it seemed her son did not want to talk to her.
My Mum & my Sister have a similar situation. Children can be just as cruel as parents.
I'm no Angie fan but can understand it must be really difficult to know what to do.
Niamh.
11-01-2016, 01:03 PM
From what she said on the opening night it seemed her son did not want to talk to her.
My Mum & my Sister have a similar situation. Children can be just as cruel as parents.
I'm no Angie fan but can understand it must be really difficult to know what to do.
I do understand that but as a parent I think she should try especially at a time like this and she should never stop trying. I read an article about her where she talks about seeing her sons first movie Moon, seems like she accepts alot of blame as to why her son doesn't speak to her, for that reason, I think, as a parent myself, that she should try until she dies to make it right with him. This is part of the article :
But for one woman, Moon has an even greater significance. Angie Bowie, Jones's estranged mother, watched his haunting film through a veil of tears. In an exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday she reveals how her serious shortcomings as a parent underline the extent of his achievement.
'It is a great work of art,' she says. 'He deserves an Oscar. What upset me is how powerful and personal it is. It is all about alienation and abandonment, and for the first time I realised how much grief I caused my son by letting him go.'
Angie, 59, has not heard from her 38-year-old son in years. She claims he effectively cut her out of his life when he was 14 - and she places the blame on David Bowie who, she says, 'poisoned' her first-born against her and used his vast fortune to alienate her from her son.
Standing outside the cinema after seeing the film, Angie, who still has the peroxide-blonde hair and trim figure that made her an icon in the Seventies, admits her turbulent ten-year marriage to Bowie must have had a lasting impact on Duncan, whom she still calls Zowie.
He ditched the name in favour of the more sedate Duncan when he started his film-making career.
His mother says: 'When I saw the film I felt only one overriding emotion, and that was grief. My son is messed up. The film is about one man's isolation and confusion, and I now realise, through Zowie's art, what a mistake I made leaving him.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1205175/Zowie-Bowie-How-son-rock-royalty-survived-bitter-rift-mother-earn-genuine-success.html#ixzz3wwbr2bMV
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TiBB Frontpage Article
11-01-2016, 01:05 PM
James has posted a new TiBB frontpage article.
Celebrity Big Brother producers have said that Angie Bowie will remain in the house, after she was given news of her ex-husband David Bowie's death.
CBB said Angie was told the news "by her representatives" and opted to continue to participate in the programme.
"The decision to remain in the house is.....
Excerpt of article quoted above. Read full article here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/celebritybigbrother2016-cbb17/news-295043/angie-bowie-to-remain-in-cbb-house-report.html
joeysteele
11-01-2016, 01:07 PM
Don't see any reason for her to be slated for it. Her choice.
Her and David were over a very long time ago, as long as she doesn't say anything disrespectful about him I can't see a problem.
If her and her 45 year old son have had no contact for decades I can't imagine either of them needing to rush into each other's arms for comfort.:shrug:
I can see your side as to that, however I also know someone from Uni whose Dad left when he was just little,no contact no nothing and he, his son wrote him off totally.
When his Mum died a while back.his thought was to seek out his Dad as he was the only link to his Mum.
It may not be remotely possible for Angie and her son to be re-united in any way but if she is still remaining in the BB house rather than go out and say I am here if you want to talk to me, rather than him having to maybe contact her via Big Brother.
Well for me, that will reflect very badly on her and indeed, if he were to want to contact her at all for any reason,having to go via the BB team first would,in my view, likely make that even more impossible than it likely is.
Death has no boundaries as to what people may think or how they may then act but if someone is shut away in a BB house for entertainment on a reality show,then in my view only more negatives can come from that.
Glenn.
11-01-2016, 01:15 PM
Why would she leave though? They haven't been married for years.
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 01:16 PM
I think she should have at least offered him an olive branch,if he then refused that would be his fault,but to stay on the show is saying to me she cares more about that than her son,I know a lot of time has gone past,but he is still her son,she should at least try and mend those barriers.
Niamh.
11-01-2016, 01:18 PM
Why would she leave though? They haven't been married for years.
For her sons sake..........
joeysteele
11-01-2016, 01:20 PM
I think she should have at least offered him an olive branch,if he then refused that would be his fault,but to stay on the show is saying to me she cares more about that than her son,I know a lot of time has gone past,but he is still her son,she should at least try and mend those barriers.
I agree.
Rather than then leave the publicly,possibly justified,view,that in fact by doing so and staying on the show, she showed David and Duncan were clearly right to cut her out of their lives.
Tarryn
11-01-2016, 01:20 PM
But I'm sure BB under the circumstances would allow her to call her loved ones to speak to them.
Maybe after doing this she then decided to stay on the show.
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2016, 01:22 PM
I think she should have at least offered him an olive branch,if he then refused that would be his fault,but to stay on the show is saying to me she cares more about that than her son,I know a lot of time has gone past,but he is still her son,she should at least try and mend those barriers.
Agree, I doubt Zowie will ever forgive her now ,IMO its a very selfish act to not be there for him
Jack_
11-01-2016, 01:22 PM
She can't win either way and to be quite honest I think any kind of criticism is in really poor taste, but then this is on season...so anything goes doesn't it.
Strictly Jake
11-01-2016, 01:25 PM
I'm pleased because she is in my top 3 but she should support her family really
smudgie
11-01-2016, 01:27 PM
I think she should have at least offered him an olive branch,if he then refused that would be his fault,but to stay on the show is saying to me she cares more about that than her son,I know a lot of time has gone past,but he is still her son,she should at least try and mend those barriers.
For all we know, she may have offered an olive branch over the years.
His wife had a two year battle with cancer not that long ago, perhaps Angie tried to get in touch then, perhaps not. Either way, it was an opportunity for them to make their peace.
They have not had contact for over 30 years Kaz,
In an ideal world we would all have the invisible cord that can't be cut, but I am afraid it doesn't work like that in reality.
He will turn to his real loved ones for comfort. The ones that have been there for him over the years.
Briancbbfan
11-01-2016, 01:29 PM
In fairness, don't call her a "hard faced cow" that's just rude.
Why would she come out? They are clearly estranged and very estranged at that, she doesn't even speak to their child now. While some people would choose to come out we do not know the full story and perhaps she wouldn't be welcome at the funeral? Who knows?
Regardless of how strained their relationship was, when they were together they were very close. He wrote many songs about her including "The Prettiest Star" and sharing a child and all those memories will be very difficult. I hope she'll be ok because to be honest I actually really like her. Yes, she's a little loopy but she's not purposely malicious and is quite funny in my opinion!
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 01:32 PM
She can't win either way and to be quite honest I think any kind of criticism is in really poor taste, but then this is on season...so anything goes doesn't it.
There's plenty of criticism off season about different things too :shrug: people will have an opinion either way, people are just posting what theirs are,I don't see a problem.
Glenn.
11-01-2016, 01:35 PM
For her sons sake..........
She's not on speaking terms with her son though?
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2016, 01:36 PM
In fairness, don't call her a "hard faced cow" that's just rude.
Why would she come out? They are clearly estranged and very estranged at that, she doesn't even speak to their child now. While some people would choose to come out we do not know the full story and perhaps she wouldn't be welcome at the funeral? Who knows?
Regardless of how strained their relationship was, when they were together they were very close. He wrote many songs about her including "The Prettiest Star" and sharing a child and all those memories will be very difficult. I hope she'll be ok because to be honest I actually really like her. Yes, she's a little loopy but she's not purposely malicious and is quite funny in my opinion!
Well IMO its very hard faced to ignore her own childs suffering and not to offer to be there to support him
Tom4784
11-01-2016, 01:36 PM
I'm not going to judge her either way, I don't know enough about her situation with David or her son to look down on her for her choice.
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 01:37 PM
She's not on speaking terms with her son though?
And she never will be if one of doesn't make an effort , this could be an opportunity for them both to at least talk.
Niamh.
11-01-2016, 01:37 PM
She's not on speaking terms with her son though?
I know. I just keep repeating myself now but her child has just lost the only parent he was in contact with, she should, imo, atleast try and be there for him
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2016, 01:39 PM
It seems the Mothers on here agree ,it should be her instinct to want to be there for her son ,without having children you don't know the bond
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 01:39 PM
I know. I just keep repeating myself now but her child has just lost the only parent he was in contact with, she should, imo, atleast try and be there for him
:clap1:I agree,just a sign from her that she is there if he needs her would be good.
rionablue
11-01-2016, 01:56 PM
I am really really disappointed in her. She loved David once and was married to him for over ten years. They had a son together and even though her son doesn't talk to her anymore he is still her son and he has lost his father. Even if she went to the funeral services and nobody spoke a word to her she could still hold her head high and know that she did the right thing. I think her staying in the house has now done her damage in how her fans feel about her. I certainly am annoyed that she chose to stay in the house no matter how much money they were offering her. I wont call her any kind of vile names I am just sad
There is no right or wrong answer in this, its entirely up to Angie at the end of the day.
If she had rushed out of BB and not been welcomed by Davids family, she would have been accused of cashing in. If she stays in she is accused of being callous.
The only correct action is the one that she feels comfortable with, and can live with.
GiRTh
11-01-2016, 02:06 PM
If Angie stays till the final then I would guess that she's likely to miss the funeral. Surely she's got to go to the funeral. :shrug:
Mokka
11-01-2016, 02:06 PM
It seems the Mothers on here agree ,it should be her instinct to want to be there for her son ,without having children you don't know the bond
I am a mother and I strongly disagree.
I am estranged from my father... and He and my mother have not spoken for years. If it were my mother's funeral.. the last thing I would want would be for my father to use it as a platform to try to get into my life again. I would want him to keep his distance and let those who loved her mourn for her together.
A funeral and mourning period for someone is a time for those who were truly loved and connected with that someone to lean on each other. I dare say that David's son has plenty of other people to lean on and take comfort from without his mother showing up and bringing with her a lot of past drama.
Now is not the time for her to make a grand gesture to get into his life... if that is what either of them want
Don't see any reason for her to be slated for it. Her choice.
Her and David were over a very long time ago, as long as she doesn't say anything disrespectful about him I can't see a problem.
If her and her 45 year old son have had no contact for decades I can't imagine either of them needing to rush into each other's arms for comfort.:shrug:
Completely agree with this.
She was going to get abuse no matter what she chose to do though, lets be honest.
smudgie
11-01-2016, 02:25 PM
I am a mother and I strongly disagree.
I am estranged from my father... and He and my mother have not spoken for years. If it were my mother's funeral.. the last thing I would want would be for my father to use it as a platform to try to get into my life again. I would want him to keep his distance and let those who loved her mourn for her together.
A funeral and mourning period for someone is a time for those who were truly loved and connected with that someone to lean on each other. I dare say that David's son has plenty of other people to lean on and take comfort from without his mother showing up and bringing with her a lot of past drama.
Now is not the time for her to make a grand gesture to get into his life... if that is what either of them want
I couldn't agree more.
Staying away from the funeral could be a way of showing respect to her son.
Families fall out big time, you can be dead to somebody even if you are alive.
It sounds to me like Duncan and Angie cut the bonds years ago, her going to the funeral uninvited could cause more distress than comfort.
It's her choice, can we please not be cynical please?
Lostie!
11-01-2016, 02:26 PM
She can't win either way and to be quite honest I think any kind of criticism is in really poor taste
Completely agree. It's a shame when someone passes away and it becomes all about criticising people for how they responded (and as you say, she'd have no doubt been criticised either way).
That was @ some of the earlier comments btw
She can't win either way and to be quite honest I think any kind of criticism is in really poor taste, but then this is on season...so anything goes doesn't it.
I agree with this
Visage
11-01-2016, 02:28 PM
I can understand why she might choose to stay on.
If I heard news that my biological father had passed on, I wouldn't stop or change anything in my life. The guy left me & my mum when I was three and has never tried to get in touch. When my mum met the man who I refer to as my father, he wrote to my biological dad and asked if he could adopt me, the last we heard from him was a response to that request on the lines of something like this "Sure you can have him"
I don't know the ins & outs of David & Angie's life but if that's her decision then I'll respect it.
One never knows if she might be in shock and choose to leave in a couple of days when it really sinks in.
I am a mother and I strongly disagree.
I am estranged from my father... and He and my mother have not spoken for years. If it were my mother's funeral.. the last thing I would want would be for my father to use it as a platform to try to get into my life again. I would want him to keep his distance and let those who loved her mourn for her together.
A funeral and mourning period for someone is a time for those who were truly loved and connected with that someone to lean on each other. I dare say that David's son has plenty of other people to lean on and take comfort from without his mother showing up and bringing with her a lot of past drama.
Now is not the time for her to make a grand gesture to get into his life... if that is what either of them want
I agree with this.
I just hope she isn't staying in the house to get attention and publicity though. That would be awful.
Niamh.
11-01-2016, 02:29 PM
I can understand why she might choose to stay on.
If I heard news that my biological father had passed on, I wouldn't stop or change anything in my life. The guy left me & my mum when I was three and has never tried to get in touch. When my mum met the man who I refer to as my father, he wrote to my biological dad and asked if he could adopt me, the last we heard from him was a response to that request on the lines of something like this "Sure you can have him"
I don't know the ins & outs of David & Angie's life but if that's her decision then I'll respect it.
One never knows if she might be in shock and choose to leave in a couple of days when it really sinks in.
Yeah that's true too
smudgie
11-01-2016, 02:31 PM
Completely agree with this.
She was going to get abuse no matter what she chose to do though, lets be honest.
For sure she was.
She can't really win either way.
I am no Angie fan but I do feel sorry for her, she must have feelings of anguish going on deep down. You might think you have shut the door on part of your life, but memories come back and bite you on the bottom.
Fosse
11-01-2016, 02:31 PM
I'm not sure why she would give a toss one way or another about Bowie; dead or alive it's got nothing to do with her being in the house. She hadn't even seen him since 1976.
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 02:33 PM
People are going to comment ,this topic was never going to pass without anyone commenting on it,we all have different opinions,obviously she will do what she thinks is best for her, but we can still comment,the only thing that bugs me slightly is why she kept his name,if it's all over and done with years ago why keep the Bowie name? and as Visage also said she could be in shock in which case she may decide to go.Time will tell I guess.
Don't see any reason for her to be slated for it. Her choice.
Her and David were over a very long time ago, as long as she doesn't say anything disrespectful about him I can't see a problem.
If her and her 45 year old son have had no contact for decades I can't imagine either of them needing to rush into each other's arms for comfort.:shrug:
Agree completely
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 02:34 PM
I'm not sure why she would give a toss one way or another about Bowie; dead or alive it's got nothing to do with her being in the house. She hadn't even seen him in 40 years.
She has his name still ,so do you think she gives a toss?
People are going to comment ,this topic was never going to pass without anyone commenting on it,we all have different opinions,obviously she will do what she thinks is best for her, but we can still comment,the only thing that bugs me slightly is why she kept his name,if it's all over and done with years ago why keep the Bowie name? and as Visage also said she could be in shock in which case she may decide to go.Time will tell I guess.
Maybe she just liked Bowie as a last name...
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 02:36 PM
Maybe she just liked Bowie as a last name...
:laugh: ok
Daniel-X
11-01-2016, 02:44 PM
It's up to her. It's a hard call to make really for her she hasn't been married to him for over thirty years and as she explained doesn't get on with her, maybe she thought it was in poor taste to be intruding as clearly they didn't have a good divorce. Then again I see why she should have left too.
Either decision has its bad sides.
sampvt
11-01-2016, 02:48 PM
she sees Bowie as a meal ticket, end of. When she gets out she will pump it some more in a book or whatever as well. No big deal here, women have been living off their x spouces for ever (Lady C Cambell) etc
wendywillow
11-01-2016, 02:58 PM
how are people judging her on this when none of us know the full story between the two of them ? :shrug:
Stevep
11-01-2016, 03:00 PM
how are people judging her on this when none of us know the full story between the two of them ? :shrug:
Disappointingly, speculation is enough for some people.
Shaun
11-01-2016, 03:00 PM
Yeah it's completely her decision, I can't really hold anything against her (although am confused by her keeping his surname too - and can see where Niamh/Kazanne are coming from about at least trying to reach out to Duncan)
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 03:02 PM
how are people judging her on this when none of us know the full story between the two of them ? :shrug:
We don't know the full story of any of them,but we still judge them don't we ?
Ross.
11-01-2016, 03:03 PM
It's her decision to stay and I'm not really in a position to judge/criticise it
wendywillow
11-01-2016, 03:06 PM
We don't know the full story of any of them,but we still judge them don't we ?
yes but that's based on whats happening in the house, none of us know what angie/david have gone thru behind the scenes. but I get your point
Babayaro.
11-01-2016, 03:07 PM
I don't think anyone is in a position to say what she should and shouldn't have done. It's her decision and lets just respect that
Visage
11-01-2016, 03:11 PM
She has his name still ,so do you think she gives a toss?
Did she keep the name as part of her working career, I read that she's an actress and musician and wonder if that's partly a reason to keep Bowie?
We don't know the full story of any of them,but we still judge them don't we ?
Oh yes, absolutely and whether any of us right or wrong, we comment because we all have opinions.
It's what keeps the 'message board' world going.:dance:
dyfed
11-01-2016, 03:13 PM
Wow ,hard faced cow !!!!!!
I agree even if she didn't get on with him what about the children she had with him,does she not think about what their going through ,does she not think she should be there to support them,says a lot about the woman imo.
Niamh.
11-01-2016, 03:14 PM
I agree even if she didn't get on with him what about the children she had with him,does she not think about what their going through ,does she not think she should be there to support them,says a lot about the woman imo.
She only had one child with David who doesn't speak to her (although I do think she should leave and atleast try with him too)
dyfed
11-01-2016, 03:17 PM
Maybe she just liked Bowie as a last name...
Yeah really
rusticgal
11-01-2016, 03:23 PM
....again you have to respect her decision. There was obviously no love lost between them..she has had no contact with her son (from what she has said). So why should she leave the house... If you have fallen out with people over the years, no matter who they are and what part they played in your life...why would your mindset change just because they have passed away. Wouldn't that be deemed two-faced?....why start pretending you actually care once someone has passed?...
I am sure if her son was young then she would have been there for him (maybe)...but he is an adult surrounded by people that have been there for him over the years where Angie hasn't.
I don't think we should crucify her for staying in the house...none of us really know the true facts.
David Bowie was a genius...I loved him and may he RIP. Angie seems a crankie, selfish box of frogs and I am not liking her...but I respect her decision.
Northern Monkey
11-01-2016, 03:29 PM
I am not going to judge her.Although the rest of her family probably will and the public.It may be a bad move for those reasons.However if she does'nt give a shet about any of that(which i suspect is the case) then cool beans.
As long as she does'nt get all depressed and boring in there.If she does then she should feck off out for our sanity.
I'm glad she has decided to stay. I hope she's okay.
Headie
11-01-2016, 03:48 PM
I doubt she would even be invited to the funeral based on how bad terms she is on with the Bowie family according to what she said the other day, so her leaving probably wouldn't put her in any better position/opportunity than she was in before.
I completely respect her decision, at the end of the day it's hers to make.
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 03:52 PM
Her daughter will be her sons half sister,maybe she would want to see him,are they all estranged?
joeysteele
11-01-2016, 04:21 PM
Her daughter will be her sons half sister,maybe she would want to see him,are they all estranged?
I think for me it is not that she isn't going to bother as to the news and just stay in the house that gets me.
I don't think for one second, had she said she wanted to leave and then made an attempt to contact her son, that anyone could have judged her wrong in any way.
The fact, if this is so and how It ends up being, that she in a reality TV show, hardly doing life or death work, and has then chosen to stay in there,and in no way even make any attempt to contact her son,her son here,regardless of the fact they have nothing to do with each others, she still gave birth to him.
Then she opens up herself to public criticism.
You get one chance when a death occurs to do the right thing,I have no judgement on her at all, I think she cares what the public think of her however and for the life of me, I cannot see being in a reality TV show more important than even just trying to reach out.
I accept it could be really heartbreaking for her to try and get more rejection, the one thing she would know then however is she did try.
I would think if it ever came about, that her son was ever to say 'and where was she at this time, in a CBB series in England'.
Now IF she too wants nothing to do with her son, well therein lies a different story.
One thing is for sure and its the only thing too, she will only have this one opportunity to reach out once more to her own son at this time.
To not do so could haunt her for the rest of her life and for what,just a TV show.
Denver
11-01-2016, 04:25 PM
It baffles me how low people go to dig at housemates that don't like she made the decision and I'm sure it wasn't easy but we have to respect that.
I'm sure the show would allow her a phone call to her son and if he wants her help I'm sure she will leave but right now there is nothing she can do and I doubt she would even be invited too the funeral
Macie Lightfoot
11-01-2016, 04:29 PM
She can't win either way and to be quite honest I think any kind of criticism is in really poor taste, but then this is on season...so anything goes doesn't it.
bitch had the whole thing planned xx
Amy Jade
11-01-2016, 04:31 PM
It baffles me how low people go to dig at housemates that don't like she made the decision and I'm sure it wasn't easy but we have to respect that.
I'm sure the show would allow her a phone call to her son and if he wants her help I'm sure she will leave but right now there is nothing she can do and I doubt she would even be invited too the funeral
X2
Are housemates told about the loss of loved ones usually? I thought Toya only found out about her dad dying when she left the House
It's her decision to stay and I'm not really in a position to judge/criticise it
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I respect her decision to stay, and I'd respect her decision to leave, too. But no matter her choice, she's going to get people disagreeing with her. I hope she's alright.
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 04:34 PM
I think for me it is not that she isn't going to bother as to the news and just stay in the house that gets me.
I don't think for one second, had she said she wanted to leave and then made an attempt to contact her son, that anyone could have judged her wrong in any way.
The fact, if this is so and how It ends up being, that she in a reality TV show, hardly doing life or death work, and has then chosen to stay in there,and in no way even make any attempt to contact her son,her son here,regardless of the fact they have nothing to do with each others, she still gave birth to him.
Then she opens up herself to public criticism.
You get one chance when a death occurs to do the right thing,I have no judgement on her at all, I think she cares what the public think of her however and for the life of me, I cannot see being in a reality TV show more important than even just trying to reach out.
I accept it could be really heartbreaking for her to try and get more rejection, the one thing she would know then however is she did try.
I would think if it ever came about, that her son was ever to say 'and where was she at this time, in a CBB series in England'.
Now IF she too wants nothing to do with her son, well therein lies a different story.
One thing is for sure and its the only thing too, she will only have this one opportunity to reach out once more to her own son at this time.
To not do so could haunt her for the rest of her life and for what,just a TV show.
Yes,well said Joey :clap1::clap1:
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2016, 04:42 PM
I think for me it is not that she isn't going to bother as to the news and just stay in the house that gets me.
I don't think for one second, had she said she wanted to leave and then made an attempt to contact her son, that anyone could have judged her wrong in any way.
The fact, if this is so and how It ends up being, that she in a reality TV show, hardly doing life or death work, and has then chosen to stay in there,and in no way even make any attempt to contact her son,her son here,regardless of the fact they have nothing to do with each others, she still gave birth to him.
Then she opens up herself to public criticism.
You get one chance when a death occurs to do the right thing,I have no judgement on her at all, I think she cares what the public think of her however and for the life of me, I cannot see being in a reality TV show more important than even just trying to reach out.
I accept it could be really heartbreaking for her to try and get more rejection, the one thing she would know then however is she did try.
I would think if it ever came about, that her son was ever to say 'and where was she at this time, in a CBB series in England'.
Now IF she too wants nothing to do with her son, well therein lies a different story.
One thing is for sure and its the only thing too, she will only have this one opportunity to reach out once more to her own son at this time.
To not do so could haunt her for the rest of her life and for what,just a TV show.
:clap1:
chuff me dizzy
11-01-2016, 04:43 PM
Are housemates told about the loss of loved ones usually? I thought Toya only found out about her dad dying when she left the House
this
I respect her decision to stay, and I'd respect her decision to leave, too. But no matter her choice, she's going to get people disagreeing with her. I hope she's alright.
No way would BB not tell a hm8 about a close family members death, can you imagine the suing bill ?
warrenhill
11-01-2016, 04:45 PM
She hasnt been with him for years.....
I doubt i would be having a day off if an ex girlfriend from 20 years ago passed away...
Miranda123
11-01-2016, 05:16 PM
Bad move I think, I hope she doesn't use this as an opportunity to bad mouth him, that would be in very poor taste
thats the main reason they had to tell her I think, cause that would have looked really bad
but they have been divorced for 40 odd years so I dont think she should try to 'own' this either
I know they have a child together (though she doesnt speak to him) and I expect her to be upset cause I think she never got over it
But 40 years?/
I think Iman (his wife) would feel rightly upset if Angie Bowie makes it all about her history with him
By the way Niamh, Happy new year!
Miranda123
11-01-2016, 05:18 PM
She hasnt been with him for years.....
I doubt i would be having a day off if an ex girlfriend from 20 years ago passed away...
slightly different I would say, they were together for 10 years and had a child together
she still shouldnt try to own it though
Miranda123
11-01-2016, 05:21 PM
Well, for her sons sake I would have thought? Her child just lost his dad, I know they're not on good term but in a situation like this, shouldn't that be put aside or atleast she should try to be there for him?
I get the impression he wouldnt want her anywhere near him Niamh. There is a lot of bad blood there and I suspect it wasnt all his dad poisoning his mind either.
Im an old bird and I dont remember Angie Bowie in a good light at all!
AnnieK
11-01-2016, 05:24 PM
Her daughter will be her sons half sister,maybe she would want to see him,are they all estranged?
They are estranged too. I believe there was contact between Duncan and his half sister but it was not continued.
I don't know how to feel about her decision to stay, she will have her reasons and they will be personal
Miranda123
11-01-2016, 05:25 PM
Maybe she just liked Bowie as a last name...
Well that and the fact that she wouldnt get asked onto Celeb Big Brother if she was back to plain old Mary Barnett!
Cherie
11-01-2016, 05:35 PM
Well that and the fact that she wouldnt get asked onto Celeb Big Brother if she was back to plain old Mary Barnett!
Indeed.
smudgie
11-01-2016, 05:41 PM
Well that and the fact that she wouldnt get asked onto Celeb Big Brother if she was back to plain old Mary Barnett!
Yes, she lived off his name.
I can understand her writing the bio, but having other relationships and another child I would have thought it was time to move on and drop the name.( her only real claim to fame)
Bowie was David's stage name not hers after all.:shrug:
Kazanne
11-01-2016, 05:43 PM
Well that and the fact that she wouldnt get asked onto Celeb Big Brother if she was back to plain old Mary Barnett!
:joker::joker::wavey: Miranda
Moosething
11-01-2016, 06:05 PM
It was her personal choice and I don't think she should be judged on it.
wendywillow
11-01-2016, 06:57 PM
slightly different I would say, they were together for 10 years and had a child together
she still shouldnt try to own it though
she and david weren't really together 10 years, they got divorced in 1980 but he basically cut her out of his life in 1975. there was def a lot of bad blood
Miranda123
11-01-2016, 07:24 PM
It was her personal choice and I don't think she should be judged on it.
Now come on Moosething, what are we here for, if not to judge
Cheryl Skinandez Thinini did the same thing when divorced from Ashley Cole
if a guy cheated on me several times, and it was splashed all over the papers, I wouldnt be keeping his name
sad that supposedly 'strong' women act like Klingons to men with a 'name'
#sadbitches
Braden
11-01-2016, 07:26 PM
I'm happy because I love watching her, but I'll be a bit upset if this results to her being evicted either Wednesday or Friday to a bunch of yobs booing her.
Lostie!
11-01-2016, 07:27 PM
While I do think she shouldn't still use the Bowie name ... what on earth does that have to do with the actual topic of discussion? That's completely irrelevant to whether she stays in the house or not.
RichardG
11-01-2016, 07:32 PM
I'm happy because I love watching her, but I'll be a bit upset if this results to her being evicted either Wednesday or Friday to a bunch of yobs booing her.
I was going to say the same! I'm assuming they'd still pay her? This is probably the only way to get your fee and avoid having to face the crowd, I'd take the money and run :worry:
Niamh.
11-01-2016, 07:39 PM
Are housemates told about the loss of loved ones usually? I thought Toya only found out about her dad dying when she left the House
this
I respect her decision to stay, and I'd respect her decision to leave, too. But no matter her choice, she's going to get people disagreeing with her. I hope she's alright.
I find that hard to believe, I'd be pretty sure they have to tell a hm if someone close to them is sick or has died especially someone's dad
Niamh.
11-01-2016, 07:42 PM
She hasnt been with him for years.....
I doubt i would be having a day off if an ex girlfriend from 20 years ago passed away...
It was more for hers and David's sons benefit I was thinking
rusticgal
11-01-2016, 07:52 PM
I think for me it is not that she isn't going to bother as to the news and just stay in the house that gets me.
I don't think for one second, had she said she wanted to leave and then made an attempt to contact her son, that anyone could have judged her wrong in any way.
The fact, if this is so and how It ends up being, that she in a reality TV show, hardly doing life or death work, and has then chosen to stay in there,and in no way even make any attempt to contact her son,her son here,regardless of the fact they have nothing to do with each others, she still gave birth to him.
Then she opens up herself to public criticism.
You get one chance when a death occurs to do the right thing,I have no judgement on her at all, I think she cares what the public think of her however and for the life of me, I cannot see being in a reality TV show more important than even just trying to reach out.
I accept it could be really heartbreaking for her to try and get more rejection, the one thing she would know then however is she did try.
I would think if it ever came about, that her son was ever to say 'and where was she at this time, in a CBB series in England'.
Now IF she too wants nothing to do with her son, well therein lies a different story.
One thing is for sure and its the only thing too, she will only have this one opportunity to reach out once more to her own son at this time.
To not do so could haunt her for the rest of her life and for what,just a TV show.
I disagree....if you are going to reach out, do it whilst he was alive. Waiting for this moment is not the time to reach out...it's like your using a moment..a point in time when emotions are raw to get what you want. It's just the wrong time....let the dust settle if necessary, then try, but don't take advantage of someone when they are dealing with such a loss.
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