Tiffany's LIES "she said David Gest"

[Crimson Dynamo]

er no she just said David


:nono:

[Niamh.]

I don't think she lied on purpose, she was clearly just remembering wrong

[Smithy]

I think she misheard

David is dead???
David yes!

Which she's misheard as David guest

[Vanessa]

Maybe she misunderstood?

[RichardG]

I don't think she intentionally lied, she was just confused.

[Crimson Dynamo]

no, she knew she has fckd up and now was covering her ass

[Livia]

She was furiously back-peddling trying to excuse her own ridiculous behaviour. She didn't want to admit her mistake and so she lied.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"I didnt make no fking mistake" she said time and time again


oh dear

[Tom4784]

I think she misheard

David is dead???
David yes!

Which she's misheard as David guest

That's what I thought.

[coffee]

Every time the Americans say David guest i think they are saying David yes, too.

[Josy]

I don't think she told a lie, just what she thought happened which kinda did the way the conversation played out..

Angie: Davids dead
Tiff freaking out: No, what? David DAVID (Clearly meaning David Gest at this point)
Angie: Yes, David David (meaning David Bowie)

Then the whole..

Tiff: When did this happen?
Angie: Just now

Tiffany honestly thought David Gest had just died in the BB house.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't think she told a lie, just what she thought happened which kinda did the way the conversation played out..

Angie: Davids dead
Tiff freaking out: No, what? David DAVID (Clearly meaning David Gest at this point)
Angie: Yes, David David (meaning David Bowie)

Then the whole..

Tiff: When did this happen?
Angie: Just now

Tiffany honestly thought David Gest had just died in the BB house.


Yes she did but she said, twice that ANGIE SAID DAVID GEST


that was a bare faced lie

[smudgie]

Nope, not an intentional lie, just a natural assumption.
She heard David and assumed it was David Gest, no reason to believe otherwise.
In her head she thinks David Gest was said, because it's what she actually thought.:shrug:

[Niamh.]

Yes she did but she said, twice that ANGIE SAID DAVID GEST


that was a bare faced lie

You don't know it was a bare faced lie though, no Angie didn't say David Gest but I genuinely think Tiffany either mis heard her or just thought she said it

[Josy]

Yes she did but she said, twice that ANGIE SAID DAVID GEST


that was a bare faced lie

But the way the conversation went it looked liked she did say David Gest.

She never lied intentionally she was just freaked out.

[Matress]

I don't understand why Tiffany is so popular after such appalling behavior. Even after realizing she had made a mistake she was in the garden laughing and refused to apologize. I can understand John, Kristina and Danielle's reaction because Tiffany was being ridiculously insensitive to somebodies personal grief. I imagine all HM were feeling a certain amount of grief at the news. She was only thinking about herself. Why so popular? Can somebody explain?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't understand why Tiffany is so popular after such appalling behavior. Even after realizing she had made a mistake she was in the garden laughing and refused to apologize. I can understand John, Kristina and Danielle's reaction because Tiffany was being ridiculously insensitive to somebodies personal grief. I imagine all HM were feeling a certain amount of grief at the news. She was only thinking about herself. Why so popular? Can somebody explain?

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not once did Tiffany realise that Angie was mourning

me

me

me

me


(not that she knew who DB was)

[ThriceShy]

Why would she apologise while being racially bullied?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why would she apologise while being racially bullied?


racist and bulllied


the 2 golden get out cards for the rude and obnoxious

:joker:

[lostalex]

I know Tiffany is a dramatic person, and has a history on reality shows, but i genuinely think she believed that Angie was talking about David in the house... the look on her face when she saw that David in the house was alive, and she started marching towards the living room to confront Angie, she was genuinely pissed off, she genuinely felt misled.

I agree Tiffany should have apologized sooner and understood Angie's pain, but at the same time Angie should have been more clear, and i don't completely discount the idea that Angie wanted this kind of attention...

She just said in the diary room she wants john and david not to tell anyone, and she didn't want the house to know, and then 20 minutes later she's telling Tiffany "David died just now"....

[Amy Jade]

It was a mistake and Angie herself called it a comedy of errors

[ThriceShy]

racist and bulllied


the 2 golden get out cards for the rude and obnoxious

:joker:

Tiffany didn't do anything rude and obnoxious.

A very unfortunate misunderstanding happened where Tiffany thought she was being told that David Gest had just dropped dead. This happened just weeks after Tiffany had suffered a miscarriage. It put her in a complete state. And by the time she really grasped what was going on and had calmed down, the vile racist bullies had already ganged up on her in the bathroom and told her they wanted her to leave. I don't blame her for saying she wouldn't apologise after that.

[lostalex]

Tiffany didn't do anything rude and obnoxious.

A very unfortunate misunderstanding happened where Tiffany thought she was being told that David Gest had just dropped dead. This happened just weeks after Tiffany had suffered a miscarriage. It put her in a complete state. And by the time she really grasped what was going on and had calmed down, the vile racist bullies had already ganged up on her in the bathroom and told her they wanted her to leave. I don't blame her for saying she wouldn't apologise after that.


i agree that Tiffany reacted in a totally reasonable way, especially when she thought Angie was telling her not to tell the rest of the house, she did the honorable thing and insisted on telling everyone else.

but you are going a bit far saying that everyone was racist, especially because at first they were all consoling her, and being totally supportive of her when she first told them. They were all on her side at first.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lets get all the Americans out first

like we always do


they all have to go

:hee:

[lostalex]

Lets get all the Americans out first

like we always do


they all have to go

:hee:


:nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:nono:

:joker:

[Niamh.]

The Americans are the best HMs, David or Tiffany FTW :hee:

[Matress]

Why would she apologise while being racially bullied?

Really? I don't see that at all. So do all those people voting for her think she was racially bullied?

[Ammi]

I don't think she told a lie, just what she thought happened which kinda did the way the conversation played out..

Angie: Davids dead
Tiff freaking out: No, what? David DAVID (Clearly meaning David Gest at this point)
Angie: Yes, David David (meaning David Bowie)

Then the whole..

Tiff: When did this happen?
Angie: Just now

Tiffany honestly thought David Gest had just died in the BB house.

..yes, David David could have easily be heard as Gest, David David especially as David was in her mind as being the person that Angie meant and wouldn't really matter which way around the wording was because they had connected in her head as being David Gest so I think she generally thought that Angie had said it was him...and Angie also didn't say that she'd just been told of David's death..when Tiffany asked 'when', she said 'just now' so I honestly think that Tiff thought that Ange had either found David in the bedroom/or DR dead..(I'm smiling as I type this because of how ridiculous it all was...)...but I think that Tiff's head was in genuine chaos and she believed that Angie had said David Gest...their world in the house, when they're in there becomes a lot about the people around them becoming 'their world' ...and unless a conversation about someone in the outside was taking place or had done, that's what many would have also thought...

[Crimson Dynamo]

any rational person would have been highly sceptical and would have gone to look for themselves (as everyone else did) but this thick cow just went mental

she only has herself to blame

[Livia]

I truly believe that Angie thought Tiffany's reaction was, at first, to the news of David Bowie's death. If Tiffany had just calmed down after the misunderstanding everything would have ended differently. Sadly, Tiffany needs to be the Reality Star. Shameful behaviour. And wouldn't any rational person's reaction to news that a housemate had possibly died, to go to the diary room and find out what's going on? And why didn't Tiffany go straight into the bedroom? She'd have found David Gest kipping.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes she did but she said, twice that ANGIE SAID DAVID GEST


that was a bare faced lie

Yes she DID say that ,then Dani said "Angies told Tiffany David Gest has dropped dead with cancer in the Diary Room "

[bots]

your brain makes up all sorts of information in those circumstances, so I don't doubt for a second that Tiff said what she thought she heard.

She still isn't the most stable of individuals though

[Matress]

Tiffany didn't do anything rude and obnoxious.

A very unfortunate misunderstanding happened where Tiffany thought she was being told that David Gest had just dropped dead. This happened just weeks after Tiffany had suffered a miscarriage. It put her in a complete state. And by the time she really grasped what was going on and had calmed down, the vile racist bullies had already ganged up on her in the bathroom and told her they wanted her to leave. I don't blame her for saying she wouldn't apologise after that.

It's rude not to apologize after making a mistake and its obnoxious to laugh at someone who is reeling with grief. She should have apologized as soon as she realized her mistake. Immediately. No excuses. Instead she made the whole situation about her. I've never seen such appalling behavior on a TV screen. It appears from the footage I've seen that it took her all day to realize she needed to apologize. Why did it take so long? Its not a difficult concept to grasp. You make a mistake you apologize. Especially to somebody in grief like that. It is reported she hasn't told the house about the miscarriage and if she is looking for some slack because of that then surely Angie is also a worthy recipient. I really don't get the racist bully thing. I didn't hear any comments that could be construed as racist. Views were understandably expressed in a very firm way but bullying. Not having it.

[Livia]

It's rude not to apologize after making a mistake and its obnoxious to laugh at someone who is reeling with grief. She should have apologized as soon as she realized her mistake. Immediately. No excuses. Instead she made the whole situation about her. I've never seen such appalling behavior on a TV screen. It appears from the footage I've seen that it took her all day to realize she needed to apologize. Why did it take so long? Its not a difficult concept to grasp. You make a mistake you apologize. Especially to somebody in grief like that. It is reported she hasn't told the house about the miscarriage and if she is looking for some slack because of that then surely Angie is also a worthy recipient. I really don't get the racist bully thing. I didn't hear any comments that could be construed as racist. Views were understandably expressed in a very firm way but bullying. Not having it.

Great post Matress. Oh, and welcome to the forum.

[lostalex]

Great post Matress. Oh, and welcome to the forum.

Livia really? are you flirting? :hehe:

[Livia]

:shocked: Livia really? are you flirting? :hehe:

No!

Well, only with you...

[kirklancaster]

The Americans are the best HMs, David or Tiffany FTW :hee:

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Exactly so.

[lostalex]

No!

Well, only with you...

ok just checking :wink:

don't want you taking advantage of those new impressionable noobs.

[Cherie]

I don't think she intentionally lied, she was just confused.

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