Did Tiffany go too far?

[Calderyon]

When calling Gemma a disgrace to all women who are actually pretty and called her the c-word.

What do you think?

I think she crossed the line.

[Headie]

Her popularity is gonna go down now and all the heat will be deflected off John again :(

[GiRTh]

No. Not at all.

[Vanessa]

She went too far. :(

[Smithy]

No drag that fat lazy **** tiff!

[Amy Jade]

No she told the truth, Gemma is a lazy self entitled pig

[Jordan.]

Probably but it made me shriek so w/e

[Samm]

I love gemma, but I screamed it was funny

[warrenhill]

Told it exactly like it is ...........:laugh:

[Kazanne]

Yes,I was starting to think she was funny,but now I just think she is vile

[thisisdanny]

Tiff speaks truth

[wendywillow]

all fair in love and bb

[GiRTh]

This time last week people were talking about Winstons right to his opinion. Difference here is that Tiffany has formed an opinion on someone she has lived with for over a week, and expressed it in very strong terms, while Winstons opinion was on a whole section of the communit6y.

I'm expecting all the Winstons supporters to be defending Tiffany sayng she has a right to her opinion. :shrug:

[Pete.]

Honestly the people who like Tiffany are going to support her anyway/the people who had an automatic dislike of her are going to stay that way - nothing is going to change that :shrug:

[reece(:]

Honestly the people who like Tiffany are going to support her anyway/the people who had an automatic dislike of her are going to stay that way - nothing is going to change that :shrug:
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[Smithy]

Can Stephanie just do us all a favour and **** off already

[lissydoll]

Of course she went too far! People shouldn't be insulting people on their appearance/weight race/religion/sexuality. It's disgusting and if someone had called her the c word people would have been up in arms saying she is being bullied or they r being racist! I liked tiff before tonight even tho she messed up the other day. Tonight she came across as disgusting and should be ashamed. U don't like someone call them a bitch say u don't like them etc but wash your mouth out girl! Made herself look really ugly tonight.

[iRyan]

I don't understand what the big deal is with the word '****'? Why is it so offensive?

[Amy Jade]

This time last week people were talking about Winstons right to his opinion. Difference here is that Tiffany has formed an opinion on someone she has lived with for over a week, and expressed it in very strong terms, while Winstons opinion was on a whole section of the communit6y.

I'm expecting all the Winstons supporters to be defending Tiffany sayng she has a right to her opinion. :shrug:

Fantastic post!

[Vicky.]

Nope, its just a word.

[Cherie]

She was in the DR, she was asked a question and she answered honestly so no she didn't go too far, I'd rather that than some bull shine that viewers wouldn't believe

[joeysteele]

Yes.
I really cannot be bothered with her nonsense now, far too much over the top and completely unnecessary most of the time too.

[seanraff07]

Went down in my estimations a bit tonight, although I agree with what she said it was pretty low.

[Heaven = Winner]

All she really did was call Gemma a fat ****. I mean I can see how to some that can be over the top, but Tiffany just said what she felt, and I highly doubt she offended anybody other than Gemma.

[BENDERBOY]

Ghetto c###

[Livia]

She had a point but went way too far. She was drunk... and she's a mean drunk.

[Jordan.]

Megans outburts made Tiffanys seem mild in comparison

[MTVN]

'C__t' is generally considered a much more offensive word in the US than here I think

[Stormy]

I can't say Tiffany is being fair and reasonable in her response...but I don't think she went too far. In fact, I'd love it if she just went off on the whole house. They are already treating her badly...so why not give it to them.

[Lostie!]

Yes, she went too far by bringing weight into it.

[Beso]

Lol at some of the people voting no who just the other day were showing their disgust at people saying stuff about gemmas appearance.

[achro]

Are you kidding? People are watching for a punch-out. **** **** ****.

[Northern Monkey]

She was 100% correct in her assessment.Tiffany was very honest and i respect her for it.

[icecakes]

Of course she went too far! People shouldn't be insulting people on their appearance/weight race/religion/sexuality. It's disgusting and if someone had called her the c word people would have been up in arms saying she is being bullied or they r being racist! I liked tiff before tonight even tho she messed up the other day. Tonight she came across as disgusting and should be ashamed. U don't like someone call them a bitch say u don't like them etc but wash your mouth out girl! Made herself look really ugly tonight.

Exactly she is a vile creature :rant:

[jet]

Of course she went too far! People shouldn't be insulting people on their appearance/weight race/religion/sexuality. It's disgusting and if someone had called her the c word people would have been up in arms saying she is being bullied or they r being racist! I liked tiff before tonight even tho she messed up the other day. Tonight she came across as disgusting and should be ashamed. U don't like someone call them a bitch say u don't like them etc but wash your mouth out girl! Made herself look really ugly tonight.

I agree, she went too far.
She's getting too predictable as well, never missing an opportunity to screech and wail about something or anything. She's beginning to get on my nerves.
I wanted to like her, but...ah well...

[RodHull]

'C__t' is generally considered a much more offensive word in the US than here I think

Here its even a term of endearment sometimes haha

'Hey how have you been you fat ****' could easily be said between friends

But yeah in this instance is was meant nastily

[Carl Jayson]

She didn't cross the line, she told the truth about Miss Piggy

Stay pressed at the HBIC of the house though

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[Jack_]

Well I thought the 'fat ****' jibe was a little harsh but hey at least it was in the DR and not to her face, as for the rest of it...no, it was funny :joker:

And I love Gemma

[rionablue]

I don't like Gemma and I like Tiff or liked her. I was sick to my stomach on hearing Tiff call Gemma that and I am no prude neither do I hold back on my comments in here and yes Gemma is big and she is lazy and divalike but Tiffs comment was sick

[jet]

I don't like Gemma and I like Tiff or liked her. I was sick to my stomach on hearing Tiff call Gemma that and I am no prude neither do I hold back on my comments in here and yes Gemma is big and she is lazy and divalike but Tiffs comment was sick

Yes. It seems overweight people are fair game for abuse. The comments on here about Gemma's appearance have been disgusting too. I guess all those who make them must think they themselves are perfect specimens.

[Edna Mode]

That poll's a bit biased. Obviously it wasn't fair and reasonable, but given the context of BB, it's really nothing. Besides, it was in a private confession, not to her face. Also, Gemma had been stirring the pot, and she was the one who made the jab about Tiff's feet.

[Edna Mode]

She didn't cross the line, she told the truth about Miss Piggy

Stay pressed at the HBIC of the house though

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I thought I was the only one who saw the resemblance! Lmfao!

[Erik B]

I love reading all the excuses people make for Tiffany like they usually do for toddlers.

Would you want her to live with you? She doesn't clean, cook, care, work, share, love and she will insult you over anything and accuse you of a lie anytime because her brain doesn't remember anything uncomfortable.

When can she move in with all you Tiffany-apologists?

[AarynGriesfan]

I love reading all the excuses people make for Tiffany like they usually do for toddlers.

Would you want her to live with you? She doesn't clean, cook, care, work, share, love and she will insult you over anything and accuse you of a lie anytime because her brain doesn't remember anything uncomfortable.

When can she move in with all you Tiffany-apologists?

I wouldn't wanna live with her but I do enjoy watching her on my computer screen and that's all that I really care about.

[Ammi]

...wow, she comes out fighting when she's attacked...yeah, she probably did go too far and was too personal which is a shame because there has been so many wrongs in that house and I'm sure that she'll get a lot of criticism but her wrong in going too far has not been anything like other things that have happened...not great I know but it was a reaction rather than an action and a reaction to so many things against her...she's been isolated, told she's not wanted in the house, been blamed for a genuine misunderstanding and her upset over that, had someone give her a gift and then take it back from her..and from what Megan said in the DR, may have even felt racial undertones from some housemates..she was acting on the back of frustration and them not letting her speak up against Gemma taking the shoes back..(which was a low, low thing to do..).. not giving her a voice but huffing and puffing and rolling their eyes and some even walking away...no maybe her reactions weren't great but their action have been much, much worse..and they have no excuse of reacting, theirs has just been attacking and persistent attacking...they're a pack of really quite grim people....

[Ammi]

..sadly also, her reaction may over-shadow what was the most awful thing, which was Megan's racist comment...there's no point in BB making a stand against Winston and then allowing something like that, it was undoubtedly racist...that really should be the focus but I fear it won't be...

[kirklancaster]

Nope - She didn't go far enough. The English language has thousands more adjectives which are apt to describe a manipulative, lazy, shet-stirring, obese **** such as Gemma Collins, and Tiffany had a right to use all of them.

Don't anyone try to tell me that beached whale Gemma is a victim, because she isn't - Tiffany has been a victim, and Gemma only received a little bit of her own back.

[kirklancaster]

...wow, she comes out fighting when she's attacked...yeah, she probably did go too far and was too personal which is a shame because there has been so many wrongs in that house and I'm sure that she'll get a lot of criticism but her wrong in going too far has not been anything like other things that have happened...not great I know but it was a reaction rather than an action and a reaction to so many things against her...she's been isolated, told she's not wanted in the house, been blamed for a genuine misunderstanding and her upset over that, had someone give her a gift and then take it back from her..and from what Megan said in the DR, may have even felt racial undertones from some housemates..she was acting on the back of frustration and them not letting her speak up against Gemma taking the shoes back..(which was a low, low thing to do..).. not giving her a voice but huffing and puffing and rolling their eyes and some even walking away...no maybe her reactions weren't great but their action have been much, much worse..and they have no excuse of reacting, theirs has just been attacking and persistent attacking...they're a pack of really quite grim people....

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Another intelligent and analytically on-point post Ammi.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

No she didn't Genma is a c-unt and this is from a combination of watching her and towie and her hypocritical ass here on cbb

[kirklancaster]

I don't like Gemma and I like Tiff or liked her. I was sick to my stomach on hearing Tiff call Gemma that and I am no prude neither do I hold back on my comments in here and yes Gemma is big and she is lazy and divalike but Tiffs comment was sick

'Nasty' words can be wounding, yes, but nowhere near as damaging as a continual series of nasty actions, practiced against Tiffany by a majority in such a short space of time in such a confined space as the BB house.

Tiffany has been UNFAIRLY 'ganged up on', ostracised, and scape-goated, but what she said about Gemma Collins when Tiffany finally retaliated WAS both TRUE and WARRANTED.

Why is it such a big shocking deal now that the 'worm has turned'?

[jennyjuniper]

It may not be politically correct (but sod politically correct anyway) but it was the truth as Tiffany saw it and she made the comment in the diary room.
I would have left out the 'pretty' word, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but everything else she said about Gemma was correct.

[jet]

I didn't agree with the HM's telling Tiffany they wanted her out etc, that was just plain wrong and over the top. But I can understand why they don't like having her in the house and the fault isn't all theirs for that. Tiffany is far from blameless. There have been plenty of vids posted showing her demonstrating the same ranting and raving on other programmes she has been on. Everywhere she goes people end up having issues with her/she has issues with them. She needs to look at her OWN behaviour and learn that people that screech and yell at every little offence DO get shut out of the group. It's the way it goes. But I suspect she knows that already. It is what she does; what she is well known for and it pays the bills.
It's entertaining to a degree and I usually like a good old argument but I'm getting weary of her and I don't even have to live with her. I'd prefer a good old fashioned 'proper' argument between some of the other HM's that didn't involve the decibel level nearly taking the roof off. It seems neither she nor Megan can have issues without screeching like banshees.

[Denver]

Yes, she went too far by bringing weight into it.

Tbf Gemma invites comments about her weight

[coffee]

Umm... Gemma said that Tiffany's feet were too big and ugly for her shoes... Tiffany can call her whatever she wants after that. You want to start on peoples looks then be prepared to get your looks brought into too >:[