Gemma worse than John?

[camertone]

Gemma is guilty of same things that John's been doing. She manipulates and ****-stirs just like John, or even worse.

[T*]

I get where you're coming from, but I do like having her in there because as much of a tit she is, some of the stuff that comes out her mouth is (unintentionally) ****ing hilarious

[Splashy]

Colins needs reality TV to earn a crust, John dosent, hes off to the USA later this year to work. Colins walked from the jungle but has over played her hand on CBB, she shoul of walked 5 days ago to keep her cred.

[dyfed]

Fake fake fake and a nasty person with it,plays to the camera,She's a real gossip.

[Kazanne]

Gemma is guilty of same things that John's been doing. She manipulates and ****-stirs just like John, or even worse.

Difference is Gemmas a liar,John isn't

[sampvt]

John is playing a game and its going west on him, but he is intelligent enough to regroup and re-establish a new strategy. Gemma is just a disgusting spoilt and lazy human being whos game plan is yet to be understood. Personally I think she does not have one, she is just a nasty boring and interfering person in real life. I hate her so much, it nearly stopped me watching the series but after suffering, I am now glad she is proving me right and I sincerely hope she walks soon.

[antifagz]

John is playing a game and its going west on him, but he is intelligent enough to regroup and re-establish a new strategy. Gemma is just a disgusting spoilt and lazy human being whos game plan is yet to be understood. Personally I think she does not have one, she is just a nasty boring and interfering person in real life. I hate her so much, it nearly stopped me watching the series but after suffering, I am now glad she is proving me right and I sincerely hope she walks soon.

interesting thoughts... whilst I'm not going to try and change your mind, the part that interests me is the 'in real life' comments. Can i just ask you to expand on this and explain exactly what you mean by it? Thanks :)

[waterhog]

Gemma is guilty of same things that John's been doing. She manipulates and ****-stirs just like John, or even worse.

don't find john bad at all - gemma is fare worse.

[hot2go]

Yes she is....John looks people in the eye to delivery his opinions....she bitches behind people's backs....John is an artist, a real celebrity.....Gemma is a reality tv star with no creative talent.....John has never shouted or become hysterical....Gemma is like Tiffany, the loudest person in the room....and the loudest people in any room are always the ones with no talent

[hot2go]

Gemma is irritating because she is such a quitter....she gets all the acclaim and prestige of announcing she's going in the jungle then quits as soon as the going got tough.....she did the same with her announcement that she was gonna diet on tele then quit as soon as the oven reached gas mark 5 and now she's howling with mascara running down her face threatening to quit big brother....saying ' I am the entertainment in the house' and ' I need luxury ' .....a horrible self serving mean spirited mess

[MrWong]

Difference is Gemmas a liar,John isn't

John is a liar. He said everyone wanted Tiff to leave.

[Kazanne]

John is a liar. He said everyone wanted Tiff to leave.

No,he said people want you to leave,no one disputed that fact ,so no he is not a liar,Gemma however IS.

[ScottyT]

Gemma is so much worse. She is so dumb and stupid it boils my blood.

[MrWong]

No,he said people want you to leave,no one disputed that fact ,so no he is not a liar,Gemma however IS.

No he said everyone.

Nancy didn't have a clue what had gone on so she can't have been part of the 'everyone' claim.

Megan and Jeremy both said they didn't want her to go. Jeremy also said that he wasn't going to isolate anyone in the house. Christopher has been supportive of Tiff from the beginning and supported her during BowieGate so John can't include him.

The only people that replied to John when he asked if Tiff should leave was Kristina, Danniella, Angie and possibly Darren?

[hot2go]

No he said everyone.

Nancy didn't have a clue what had gone on so she can't have been part of the 'everyone' claim.

Megan and Jeremy both said they didn't want her to go. Jeremy also said that he wasn't going to isolate anyone in the house. Christopher has been supportive of Tiff from the beginning and supported her during BowieGate so John can't include him.

The only people that replied to John when he asked if Tiff should leave was Kristina, Danniella, Angie and possibly Darren?

Your facts are actually true.....and John was assuming the power to speak for everyone and was wrong....but a lot of people are overlooking the essence of the issue and that was poor Angie, who John and David found in a terrible state and who both promised to take care of her.....I can only imagine how angry John must have felt with that silly idiot Tiffany and how protective he must have felt towards Angie when it was all still so raw and so new.

When it comes to cold hard facts , the fact is, Tiffany was wrong and was too proud to admit it so instead chose to verbally attack an old women who was grieving....shamfull, really low life behaviour

Angie shared the 1970s and her youth with David Bowie, they were married, she once loved him, she once managed his career and she had a baby with him.....when he died part of her youth and her past died not least the father of her oldest child who she knew would be devastated by the news....for Tiffany to call her a f-cking old b-tch in that moment was unforgivable and I can fully understand why John was so angry...I would have been ...Big Brother should have thrown her out instead of leaving poor John to try and protect Angie from that violent hysterical woman

Anyone who can't see that are as unintelligent as Tiffany herself

[ScottyT]

Your facts are actually true.....and John was assuming the power to speak for everyone and was wrong....but a lot of people are overlooking the essence of the issue and that was poor Angie, who John and David found in a terrible state and who both promised to take care of her.....I can only imagine how angry John must have felt with that silly idiot Tiffany and how protective he must have felt towards Angie when it was all still so raw and so new.

When it comes to cold hard facts , the fact is, Tiffany was wrong and was too proud to admit it so instead chose to verbally attack an old women who was grieving....shamfull, really low life behaviour

Angie shared the 1970s and her youth with David Bowie, they were married, she once loved him, she once managed his career and she had a baby with him.....when he died part of her youth and her past died not least the father of her oldest child who she knew would be devastated by the news....for Tiffany to call her a f-cking old b-tch in that moment was unforgivable and I can fully understand why John was so angry...I would have been ...Big Brother should have thrown her out instead of leaving poor John to try and protect Angie from that violent hysterical woman

Spot on.

[hot2go]

John put himself between Angie and violence...he also put himself between Darren and temptation....that takes strength....and knowing it would make him unpopular he still did it anyway...both Angie and Nancy have said that John is a true friend to do that for Darren and even Darren himself has remained friends with him...I trust those peoples observations way more than anything Gemma, Tiffany of Megan would say...no question .....John is being targeted because he is a nice guy...and nice guys are always a threat to bad people

[Kazanne]

John put himself between Angie and violence...he also put himself between Darren and temptation....that takes strength....and knowing it would make him unpopular he still did it anyway...both Angie and Nancy have said that John is a true friend to do that for Darren and even Darren himself has remained friends with him...I trust those peoples observations way more than anything Gemma, Tiffany of Megan would say...no question .....John is being targeted because he is a nice guy...and nice guys are always a threat to bad people

:clap1::worship::worship:

[susie q]

Your facts are actually true.....and John was assuming the power to speak for everyone and was wrong....but a lot of people are overlooking the essence of the issue and that was poor Angie, who John and David found in a terrible state and who both promised to take care of her.....I can only imagine how angry John must have felt with that silly idiot Tiffany and how protective he must have felt towards Angie when it was all still so raw and so new.

When it comes to cold hard facts , the fact is, Tiffany was wrong and was too proud to admit it so instead chose to verbally attack an old women who was grieving....shamfull, really low life behaviour

Angie shared the 1970s and her youth with David Bowie, they were married, she once loved him, she once managed his career and she had a baby with him.....when he died part of her youth and her past died not least the father of her oldest child who she knew would be devastated by the news....for Tiffany to call her a f-cking old b-tch in that moment was unforgivable and I can fully understand why John was so angry...I would have been ...Big Brother should have thrown her out instead of leaving poor John to try and protect Angie from that violent hysterical woman

Anyone who can't see that are as unintelligent as Tiffany herself

Good post

[LukeB]

John is a liar. He said everyone wanted Tiff to leave.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Gemma is a million times worse than John

[MB.]

John also said the 'get John out' chants were "relieving" which alol that's bull**** mate

[chuff me dizzy]

Your facts are actually true.....and John was assuming the power to speak for everyone and was wrong....but a lot of people are overlooking the essence of the issue and that was poor Angie, who John and David found in a terrible state and who both promised to take care of her.....I can only imagine how angry John must have felt with that silly idiot Tiffany and how protective he must have felt towards Angie when it was all still so raw and so new.

When it comes to cold hard facts , the fact is, Tiffany was wrong and was too proud to admit it so instead chose to verbally attack an old women who was grieving....shamfull, really low life behaviour

Angie shared the 1970s and her youth with David Bowie, they were married, she once loved him, she once managed his career and she had a baby with him.....when he died part of her youth and her past died not least the father of her oldest child who she knew would be devastated by the news....for Tiffany to call her a f-cking old b-tch in that moment was unforgivable and I can fully understand why John was so angry...I would have been ...Big Brother should have thrown her out instead of leaving poor John to try and protect Angie from that violent hysterical woman

Anyone who can't see that are as unintelligent as Tiffany herself

Angie hasn't given a single flying one about Bowie dying

[Macie Lightfoot]

wow masks are slipping xxx

Anyway, to answer the question, Gemma is false but transparently so, and at least she has the decency to be hilarious about it. John is just a sanctimonious twat.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think Gemma is reacting to the lack of food. I have seen the way she is looking at Stephanie, imaging her inside a massive bap smothered in ketchup

:worry:

[MB.]

Angie hasn't given a single flying one about Bowie dying

Given that they've been divorced for coming up to 40 years...

[Carl Jayson]

Gemma is a big fat pig and John has disgusting teeth

[hot2go]

Gemma is a big fat pig and John has disgusting teeth

This is just hate mail and trolling......I'm amazed you don't get booted off......there is no maturity or intelligence in your abuse

[Pete.]

Gemma is righteous and entertaining

[Pete.]

I think Gemma is reacting to the lack of food. I have seen the way she is looking at Stephanie, imaging her inside a massive bap smothered in ketchup

:worry:
A tad problematic

[hot2go]

:clap1:

John probably assumed that everyone would want Tiffany out....at the very least until she regained some sanity.....it was necessary just like it was with Megan, but for some reason John was the only one strong enough to confront Tiffany.....any of the others who chose not to get involved were cowards and if someone had ended up injured because of the mad cow then it would not have been Johns fault but the fault of big brother and all the sheep in that house .....Megan was restrained...Tiffany wasn't.... Megan was removed...Tiffany wasn't ....They are giving Tiffany special treatment and it discrimination in her favour .....John was absolutely right to defend and protect Angie from that aggressive bitch...he promised her he would and he stuck to his promise....a good guy

[Suze]

I think Gemma is reacting to the lack of food. I have seen the way she is looking at Stephanie, imaging her inside a massive bap smothered in ketchup

:worry:

I so shouldn't have laughed at your post LT, but I couldn't help it :laugh:

[White_L10N]

I'm interested to find out what examples people have of John being manipulative other than just an inherent feeling of distrust. I just haven't seen anything. What I do understand is John has an incredibly strong and centred character that many of the British public just cannot relate to in themselves. It's no coincidence its the most unstable people in there who have "cottoned on" to Johns "game playing". Considering the smartest and more stable ones can't seem to see it. There's your clue. Its just an illusion. And seeing as the public are TOWIE obsessed. Its not surprising they're shouting "get John out". Sad really.

[kirklancaster]

Gemma is a million times worse than John

THIS. THIS. THIS. I detest her.

[Briancbbfan]

You know I had an idea Gemma would be sneaky, but I was skitting at her antics with Jonathan and wanted her to win!

But as soon as the week ended and Jonathan fled the nest, her true colours came out!

Regardless of whether any of us like her or not, she is 100% sneakier than John and ALOT worse. She's also alot more obvious!!!

[Briancbbfan]

This is just hate mail and trolling......I'm amazed you don't get booted off......there is no maturity or intelligence in your abuse

Completely agree, what is the point in being nasty like that? It's not funny and really doesn't achieve anything???

[joeysteele]

She is absolutely now for me, miles worse than John is or ever was.

[Dollface]

Gemma is a big fat pig and John has disgusting teeth

:laugh2:
Are you even old enough for this forum, or to be watching BB?

[jet]

Gemma is a big fat pig and John has disgusting teeth

That's just a cheap and childish way of saying you don't like them instead of critiquing their actions and characters.

[jennyjuniper]

Gemma is a hundred times worse. I don't care for John, but at least he is a talented actor, whereas Gemma is just a waste of space. John tries to be in control because probably that's the type of personality he is, whereas Gemma says and does things just to stir things up and cause friction.
I really really hate the type that has no willpower, is stupid,selfish and greedy and Gemma is all of those things.

[Ammi]

..as bad as each other I would say, in terms of their character..I think that the thing is with those two, that they've both recognised the gameplay in each other so are clashing to be 'top dog'..

[hot2go]

Gemma is a hundred times worse. I don't care for John, but at least he is a talented actor, whereas Gemma is just a waste of space. John tries to be in control because probably that's the type of personality he is, whereas Gemma says and does things just to stir things up and cause friction.
I really really hate the type that has no willpower, is stupid,selfish and greedy and Gemma is all of those things.

Great post....very accurate

[Xtopher]

At this point yes, she is so much worse.

[Kazanne]

Gemma is a hundred times worse. I don't care for John, but at least he is a talented actor, whereas Gemma is just a waste of space. John tries to be in control because probably that's the type of personality he is, whereas Gemma says and does things just to stir things up and cause friction.
I really really hate the type that has no willpower, is stupid,selfish and greedy and Gemma is all of those things.

:clap1::clap1: Great post Jenny,but I do like John,I can't see he has done anything that bad tbh.

[hot2go]

Angie hasn't given a single flying one about Bowie dying
For that to be true she'd have to be as hard faced as you and I really don't think she is ...how do you know what she's feeling or going through ?