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RichardG
23-01-2016, 11:05 PM
On the live feed last night John said to Tiffany in the bathroom "I've already won because I'm getting paid. I don't care about actually being crowned the winner" yet on the highlights tonight they cut out his reason and just moved onto the next scene right after he said that he's already won.

I don't like John at all and definitely don't support him BUT I thought that was some really sneaky editing by BB and it does make me wonder which other house events we've been fed an incorrect picture of thanks to the lack of live feed. He got a bunch of hate on twitter tonight for that comment from people who thought he meant that he'd already won the show itself. As someone else said in a different thread, they might as well have given him a cat to stroke and a spinny chair because they made him look like some kind of evil genius. :laugh:

hot2go
23-01-2016, 11:19 PM
Anyone with half an ounce of sense would realise he thinks of himself as a winner because it's correct, he is one....he's kept his cool, he hasn't shouted people down, he hasn't thrown bad language at people, he hasn't damaged his reputation on the outside, he hasn't lost any fans, he's probably gained extra fans and he knows inside that he's a good person...plus he's been paid good money....if that's not a winner then what is ?
The biggest loser in there is Gemma....she's def worse off ....her reputation on the outside is sliding south just like the rest of her ...she's gained no friends from it and she's piled on loads of weight by stuffing her face all day long and doing nothing but sit on her arse while the others run round for her...

erinp5
23-01-2016, 11:24 PM
He means he has got the cash to look after his mother , that's why he done the show .I am not his biggest fan but that what I took from that convo.

Northern Monkey
23-01-2016, 11:26 PM
That convo was fake af anyway.His acting was awful.

Samm
23-01-2016, 11:27 PM
That hurt the little popularity he had

Headie
23-01-2016, 11:29 PM
Oh well I won't lose sleep over it

Kazanne
23-01-2016, 11:31 PM
On the live feed last night John said to Tiffany in the bathroom "I've already won because I'm getting paid. I don't care about actually being crowned the winner" yet on the highlights tonight they cut out his reason and just moved onto the next scene right after he said that he's already won.

I don't like John at all and definitely don't support him BUT I thought that was some really sneaky editing by BB and it does make me wonder which other house events we've been fed an incorrect picture of thanks to the lack of live feed. He got a bunch of hate on twitter tonight for that comment from people who thought he meant that he'd already won the show itself. As someone else said in a different thread, they might as well have given him a cat to stroke and a spinny chair because they made him look like some kind of evil genius. :laugh:


Terrible editing,there was so much more to that ,sneaky BB

hot2go
23-01-2016, 11:45 PM
That hurt the little popularity he had

Not for me it didn't and I'm def part of that popularity ...so maybe you're not correct about that

jet
23-01-2016, 11:53 PM
Anyone with half an ounce of sense would realise he thinks of himself as a winner because it's correct, he is one....he's kept his cool, he hasn't shouted people down, he hasn't thrown bad language at people, he hasn't damaged his reputation on the outside, he hasn't lost any fans, he's probably gained extra fans and he knows inside that he's a good person...plus he's been paid good money....if that's not a winner then what is ?
The biggest loser in there is Gemma....she's def worse off ....her reputation on the outside is sliding south just like the rest of her ...she's gained no friends from it and she's piled on loads of weight by stuffing her face all day long and doing nothing but sit on her arse while the others run round for her...

Is this the John who instigated the shaming of Steph in tonights show? The one who said to leave the dirty knickers on the table and the person who owned them had to be 'named and shamed'!!! The person who blatantly lied to Tiff and said 'I didn't do it'!!!
You are all so scared Gemma is going to do better than him that you ignore anything John does wrong and then deflect the attention unto her.

bots
24-01-2016, 12:37 AM
Is this the John who instigated the shaming of Steph in tonights show? The one who said to leave the dirty knickers on the table and the person who owned them had to be 'named and shamed'!!! The person who blatantly lied to Tiff and said 'I didn't do it'!!!
You are all so scared Gemma is going to do better than him that you ignore anything John does wrong and then deflect the attention unto her.

Crusty had it coming. Everyone is blaming John when it was perfectly clear there were 3 of them involved

zakman440
24-01-2016, 12:39 AM
Welcome to Big Brother on Channel 5.

jet
24-01-2016, 12:41 AM
Crusty had it coming. Everyone is blaming John when it was perfectly clear there were 3 of them involved

Are you saying the 3 of them simultaneously said whoever owned the knickers should be named and shamed and they should be left on the table - which is what my post was about?
Or will you be big enough to tell the truth and admit it was John AND that he lied to Tiff when he denied it?

bots
24-01-2016, 12:43 AM
Are you saying the 3 of them simultaneously said whoever owned the knickers should be named and shamed and they should be left on the table - which is what my post was about?
Or will you be big enough to tell the truth and admit it was John AND that he lied to Tiff when he denied it?

there were 3 of them involved. Are you suggesting John was alone with the knickers? No he wasn't

jet
24-01-2016, 12:45 AM
there were 3 of them involved. Are you suggesting John was alone with the knickers? No he wasn't

No I'm not suggesting that at all. I asked a simple question. Why won't you answer it?

jet
24-01-2016, 01:05 AM
It's gone very quiet in here. No surprises there. :joker:

RodHull
24-01-2016, 01:06 AM
No I'm not suggesting that at all. I asked a simple question. Why won't you answer it?

Ill answer it... John said exactly what you said he did yes

But Tiffany never asked him that so NO he didn't lie to her.

Now will you answer why Gemma lied about being elbowed by Steph while trying to be nice when actually she steamrolled past the poor girl and called her a prick.

hot2go
24-01-2016, 01:22 AM
Is this the John who instigated the shaming of Steph in tonights show? The one who said to leave the dirty knickers on the table and the person who owned them had to be 'named and shamed'!!! The person who blatantly lied to Tiff and said 'I didn't do it'!!!
You are all so scared Gemma is going to do better than him that you ignore anything John does wrong and then deflect the attention unto her.

They were all wrong, each and every one of them, John included.....and Jeremy wasn't a wimp at all, he was right in there with a big spot light so it diminished the crowd immediately..Jeremy goes against the house often and I dont think people see that strength he's got...he stands by Steph 100%

jet
24-01-2016, 01:48 AM
Ill answer it... John said exactly what you said he did yes

But Tiffany never asked him that so NO he didn't lie to her.

Now will you answer why Gemma lied about being elbowed by Steph while trying to be nice when actually she steamrolled past the poor girl and called her a prick.

I couldn't see or hear what went on there clearly so I can't really answer that. Maybe Gemma lied, or maybe Gemma did say something nice in passing and Steph elbowed her and so she called her a prick. I can't be sure either way. :shrug:

erinp5
24-01-2016, 01:59 AM
No I'm not suggesting that at all. I asked a simple question. Why won't you answer it?

The thread is about John saying "he won already" not did John put the knickers on the table?That's what I replied to.
But to answer your question..... all three men, for what reason I do not know were all connected in putting the dirty knickers on the table , then laughing like ten year olds .Why John thought the woman who owned the knickers should be named and shamed is beyond me.What has BB come to when three adult men thinks it's right to check a females underwear .I am no fan of Steph's , but having re watched the show what they did was wrong .

jet
24-01-2016, 02:13 AM
The thread is about John saying "he won already" not did John put the knickers on the table?That's what I replied to.
But to answer your question..... all three men, for what reason I do not know were all connected in putting the dirty knickers on the table , then laughing like ten year olds .Why John thought the woman who owned the knickers should be named and shamed is beyond me.What has BB come to when three adult men thinks it's right to check a females underwear .I am no fan of Steph's , but having re watched the show what they did was wrong .

I agree and I can't stand Steph. I think leaving her dirty underwear around is disgusting but someone should just have had a quiet word with her about it.

erinp5
24-01-2016, 02:20 AM
I agree and I can't stand Steph. I think leaving her dirty underwear around is disgusting but someone should just have had a quiet word with her about it.

Well it done more damage to the Hms involved and Steph gain some ground with the viewers which can only help her .

Marsh.
24-01-2016, 02:21 AM
That is reality television editing 101.

RodHull
24-01-2016, 02:33 AM
I couldn't see or hear what went on there clearly so I can't really answer that. Maybe Gemma lied, or maybe Gemma did say something nice in passing and Steph elbowed her and so she called her a prick. I can't be sure either way. :shrug:

Funny how not knowing about this you cant comment, and yet not knowing what exactly Tiff asked John (which you admitted in another thread) you feel its ok to comment on that.

And its quite simple just watch it back on catch up its right there, Gemma blatantly lied, no grey area, nothing, she walked up steph got out of her way without saying a word and gemma said 'prick' then gemma went to the garden and told her chief witch daniella how she tried to be nice but got elbowed...

jet
24-01-2016, 08:56 AM
Funny how not knowing about this you cant comment, and yet not knowing what exactly Tiff asked John (which you admitted in another thread) you feel its ok to comment on that.

And its quite simple just watch it back on catch up its right there, Gemma blatantly lied, no grey area, nothing, she walked up steph got out of her way without saying a word and gemma said 'prick' then gemma went to the garden and told her chief witch daniella how she tried to be nice but got elbowed...

I was sure at the time I was right though about what Tiff asked - and really does it matter which of them was actually carrying the laundry and setting it on the table? The 3 of them came in together but it was John who made the big deal out of it and started it all off.

As for the Gemma thing, it's still not clear to me exactly what happened there. I don't know how you can be so certain. :shrug:

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 09:08 AM
That hurt the little popularity he had

:joker:

lostalex
24-01-2016, 09:08 AM
that was the weirdest conversation ever. i have no idea what either of them were talking about. they are both crazy.

Ammi
24-01-2016, 09:15 AM
..anyone who had any active part in how Steph was humiliated last night, cannot think of themselves as any type of winner at all...

Cherie
24-01-2016, 09:20 AM
that was the weirdest conversation ever. i have no idea what either of them were talking about. they are both crazy.

No not crazy, just a very bad script even more badly delivered

chuff me dizzy
24-01-2016, 09:23 AM
Best part of last nigths show, John ate her up and spat her out

Cherie
24-01-2016, 09:24 AM
On the live feed last night John said to Tiffany in the bathroom "I've already won because I'm getting paid. I don't care about actually being crowned the winner" yet on the highlights tonight they cut out his reason and just moved onto the next scene right after he said that he's already won.

I don't like John at all and definitely don't support him BUT I thought that was some really sneaky editing by BB and it does make me wonder which other house events we've been fed an incorrect picture of thanks to the lack of live feed. He got a bunch of hate on twitter tonight for that comment from people who thought he meant that he'd already won the show itself. As someone else said in a different thread, they might as well have given him a cat to stroke and a spinny chair because they made him look like some kind of evil genius. :laugh:



The edit could make Mother Theresa look like a villain, manipulating the viewers into hating or feeling sorry for someone

chuff me dizzy
24-01-2016, 09:26 AM
John meant he had already won over her in the argument was my take on it ,and he's right, he did

waterhog
24-01-2016, 09:31 AM
I never thought this and straight away I thought he was going to be set up and look what has happened. john is a nice guy.

hot2go
24-01-2016, 09:50 AM
It's gone very quiet in here. No surprises there. :joker:

Jet it's not quiet on here from me....I just think you shouldn't use someone else thread, about the bathroom scene with Tiffany and John, for your own other completely different argument....that's why everyone's not flocking to you....so start your own thread
I think if everyone is honest though there ain't one house mate who's an innocent ...and the only two remaining who haven't been directly nasty to anyone in the house is Jeremy and Scotty.
For me, I always love the ones who can make me laugh with what they say and that is def Steph right now.

So there's lots of choices folkes, none em are Mother Theresa but apart from one, they all have good qualities and strengths as well as flaws...
Only waste of space, and it's a lot of space, is that old Essex Bitch and I want to see her break...see the cracks open up...see everyone def her out and really starve her, starve her by ignoring her, cause she feeds on people like a parasite.

chuff me dizzy
24-01-2016, 09:53 AM
Jet it's not quiet on here from me....I just think you shouldn't use someone else thread, about the bathroom scene with Tiffany and John, for your own other completely different argument....that's why everyone's not flocking to you....so start your own thread
I think if everyone is honest though there ain't one house mate who's an innocent ...and the only two remaining who haven't been directly nasty to anyone in the house is Jeremy and Scotty.
For me, I always love the ones who can make me laugh with what they say and that is def Steph right now.

So there's lots of choices folkes, none em are Mother Theresa but apart from one, they all have good qualities and strengths as well as flaws...
Only waste of space, and it's a lot of space, is that old Essex Bitch and I want to see her break...see the cracks open up...see everyone def her out and really starve her, starve her by ignoring her, cause she feeds on people like a parasite.

:clap1: Its been a long time coming,but the house is finally turning against Gemma, the boos on Friday have told them exactly what they were thinking, she's the most disliked in there

jet
24-01-2016, 09:55 AM
:clap1: Its been a long time coming,but the house is finally turning against Gemma, the boos on Friday have told them exactly what they were thinking, she's the most disliked in there

She was in the first 3 saved...out of 7 :laugh:

Tarryn
24-01-2016, 10:00 AM
:clap1: Its been a long time coming,but the house is finally turning against Gemma, the boos on Friday have told them exactly what they were thinking, she's the most disliked in there

John got massive boos too yet was still saved.
He & Gemma must have a big fan base.
I dislike both of them & can't think of one nice thing to say about either.
At least Tiff had the guts to challenge John. None of the others have :shrug:
Sorry Chuff but I just can't take to John. I just find him so arrogant & nasty.

Will.
24-01-2016, 10:00 AM
Timebomb promo?

Daniel-X
24-01-2016, 10:13 AM
Best part of last nigths show, John ate her up and spat her out

No. It was the opposite way round lmao

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 10:17 AM
Is this the John who instigated the shaming of Steph in tonights show? The one who said to leave the dirty knickers on the table and the person who owned them had to be 'named and shamed'!!! The person who blatantly lied to Tiff and said 'I didn't do it'!!!
You are all so scared Gemma is going to do better than him that you ignore anything John does wrong and then deflect the attention unto her.

He was just being funny. Well, I laughed !!!!!

hot2go
24-01-2016, 10:19 AM
Is this the John who instigated the shaming of Steph in tonights show? The one who said to leave the dirty knickers on the table and the person who owned them had to be 'named and shamed'!!! The person who blatantly lied to Tiff and said 'I didn't do it'!!!
You are all so scared Gemma is going to do better than him that you ignore anything John does wrong and then deflect the attention unto her.

I don't ignore anything any of them do, I look at both sides, which is why I've supported Jeremy and Steph so much...I have just watched last nights BB properly and I am gutted by John and Christopher's behaviour....can't defend it but can go part way to explaining why I think the women's behaviour was worse...blokes do things like that to each other all the time , and guys most often would laugh it off if it was done to them...
but girls are different, usually they stick together when guys act like immature pricks in sensitive matters, that's when girls look out for each other...those girls should have JUMPED to Stephs defence and shouted the guys down....and once again the linchpin in the centre of it all was Gemma.

Suze
24-01-2016, 10:22 AM
She was in the first 3 saved...out of 7 :laugh:

Maybe, but that doesn't mean she topped the vote of the three, plus voting opened up/started before she showed herself up nonstop for the toerag she is or I doubt she would have gained so many votes. If she is so popular, then why do you think BB had to maneuver an immunity for her, doesn't take much working out.

Tarryn
24-01-2016, 10:24 AM
I don't ignore anything any of them do, I look at both sides, which is why I've supported Jeremy and Steph so much...I have just watched last nights BB properly and I am gutted by John and Christopher's behaviour....can't defend it but can go part way to explaining why I think the women's behaviour was worse...blokes do things like that to each other all the time , and guys most often would laugh it off if it was done to them...
but girls are different, usually they stick together when guys act like immature pricks in sensitive matters, that's when girls look out for each other...those girls should have JUMPED to Stephs defence and shouted the guys down....and once again the linchpin in the centre of it all was Gemma.

Steph should be keeping her knickers to herself & not leaving them lying around, I don't honestly know why somebody would leave their dirty underwear around in a house full of people :shrug:
BUT I really do think it's disgusting that they made such a big deal of it.
I actually felt sorry for Steph. It must have been so humiliating. I would never want to make fun of another like that.
So yes, I do think the boys were totally wrong.

jet
24-01-2016, 10:27 AM
Jet it's not quiet on here from me....I just think you shouldn't use someone else thread, about the bathroom scene with Tiffany and John, for your own other completely different argument....that's why everyone's not flocking to you....so start your own thread
I think if everyone is honest though there ain't one house mate who's an innocent ...and the only two remaining who haven't been directly nasty to anyone in the house is Jeremy and Scotty.
For me, I always love the ones who can make me laugh with what they say and that is def Steph right now.

So there's lots of choices folkes, none em are Mother Theresa but apart from one, they all have good qualities and strengths as well as flaws...
Only waste of space, and it's a lot of space, is that old Essex Bitch and I want to see her break...see the cracks open up...see everyone def her out and really starve her, starve her by ignoring her, cause she feeds on people like a parasite.

This thread was related to the issue as it was because of the knicker incident that Tiff was speaking to John, but no, what I was posting wasn't directly related. I was so mad at John though that I didn't even think about that. I rarely make threads any more, but I'll remember now to do that in future now you've pointed it out - you have done me a favour! :thumbs:

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 10:28 AM
Steph should be keeping her knickers to herself & not leaving them lying around, I don't honestly know why somebody would leave their dirty underwear around in a house full of people :shrug:
BUT I really do think it's disgusting that they made such a big deal of it.
I actually felt sorry for Steph. It must have been so humiliating. I would never want to make fun of another like that.
So yes, I do think the boys were totally wrong.

:clap1: Well at last ,someone who is not solely putting the blame on John,I agree with your post,and to be fair the boys didn't know who's they were so they weren't picking on anyone,just being dicks.

hot2go
24-01-2016, 10:31 AM
Steph should be keeping her knickers to herself & not leaving them lying around, I don't honestly know why somebody would leave their dirty underwear around in a house full of people :shrug:
BUT I really do think it's disgusting that they made such a big deal of it.
I actually felt sorry for Steph. It must have been so humiliating. I would never want to make fun of another like that.
So yes, I do think the boys were totally wrong.

Sorry, but if you think only the boys were wrong then I can't possibly take you seriously....the girls were being cruel, mean bitches....
And as for Westbrook, if she's really got a problem with untidy clothes then how can she have such an alliance with Gemma who is hands down the laziest, most greedy selfish person to ever be in there....hypocrites they are.
The only person who put a stop to it and once again went against the crowd was Jeremy....yet they all said he was a wimp...BLIND the lot of em.

hot2go
24-01-2016, 10:34 AM
This thread was related to the issue as it was because of the knicker incident that Tiff was speaking to John, but no, what I was posting wasn't directly related. I was so mad at John though that I didn't even think about that. I rarely make threads any more, but I'll remember now to do that in future now you've pointed it out - you have done me a favour! :thumbs:

That's good, because it was a very valid point and would have been a good thread

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 10:35 AM
John has won,of course he has , as have the others who stay the distance as they have bagged a good amount of money ,there is no prize at the end so,of course it's a win.

jet
24-01-2016, 10:36 AM
I don't ignore anything any of them do, I look at both sides, which is why I've supported Jeremy and Steph so much...I have just watched last nights BB properly and I am gutted by John and Christopher's behaviour....can't defend it but can go part way to explaining why I think the women's behaviour was worse...blokes do things like that to each other all the time , and guys most often would laugh it off if it was done to them...
but girls are different, usually they stick together when guys act like immature pricks in sensitive matters, that's when girls look out for each other...those girls should have JUMPED to Stephs defence and shouted the guys down....and once again the linchpin in the centre of it all was Gemma.

I didn't get that. Gemma and Steph were already at each others throats before the knicker incident and that carried on. Can you tell me what she did that makes you think she was the linchpin in the centre specifically in the knicker incident?
I thought Danniella was much worse.

Tarryn
24-01-2016, 10:36 AM
Sorry, but if you think only the boys were wrong then I can't possibly take you seriously....the girls were being cruel, mean bitches....
And as for Westbrook, if she's really got a problem with untidy clothes then how can she have such an alliance with Gemma who is hands down the laziest, most greedy selfish person to ever be in there....hypocrites they are.
The only person who put a stop to it and once again went against the crowd was Jeremy....yet they all said he was a wimp...BLIND the lot of em.

When did I say the girls were not in the wrong :shrug:
They were so wrapped up in themselves saying "Not my knickers" that they totally forgot a young girl was going to be humiliated.
I don't like Steph but I have to say if I were in that house I would have gone mental seeing another ridiculed like that.
Danniella & Gemma seemed more concerned with using it as more ammo against Steph.
Darren & Christopher got away with it too.
Yes, John was in the wrong but so were a lot of others.
I felt so sorry for Steph. I had respect for her when she stood up for herself.
Why would anyone want to take the piss out of somebody over this ?.
Tiff & Jeremy were the only one's who felt for her.

Princess Pixie
24-01-2016, 10:39 AM
Anyone with half an ounce of sense would realise he thinks of himself as a winner because it's correct, he is one....he's kept his cool, he hasn't shouted people down, he hasn't thrown bad language at people, he hasn't damaged his reputation on the outside, he hasn't lost any fans, he's probably gained extra fans and he knows inside that he's a good person...plus he's been paid good money....if that's not a winner then what is ?
The biggest loser in there is Gemma....she's def worse off ....her reputation on the outside is sliding south just like the rest of her ...she's gained no friends from it and she's piled on loads of weight by stuffing her face all day long and doing nothing but sit on her arse while the others run round for her...
you are absolutely right. He is a winner. It is strange but unfortunately true, that a lot of people equate winning with being crowned "The Winner", when in reality it is about being a decent person. No matter what GC or TP may say John is most definitely a better person than either of them. His behaviour during the whole "Davids' dead" debacle was not intimidation or puppet mastering, he was the only one capable of expressing what most (if they are honest) of the housemates were thinking at that time, that TP was a loose cannon, as her behaviour at the time showed. She had clearly lost the plot over Angie's news, but at NO POINT did Angie say to TP "David Gest is Dead" which is what TP kept saying to housemates. Angie said "Davids dead" the fact that TP took that to be DG was her own fault, and shows that she is volatile, but to say that Angie said "David Gest is dead" was a lie, plain and simple. John being older, and dare i say it WITH MORE INTELLIGENCE could see through TP and clearly was concerned not only for her but for the fellow housemates, lets face it, her language, behaviour and ranting dont actually tend to show a stable minded logical reasonable woman. I think she showed all of us viewing public last night her true self, when she declared she would "open my arms, my mouth and my legs" to "comfort" Scotty T! John has undoubtably proved himself to be a winner, and lets remember its for his Mum, not him, thats the mark of a truly unselfish person. I truly hope that BB makes GC do a horrid task to keep her immunity, so that she walks, she has proved to be a vile piece of work, and as someone said her "career" will hopefully head South.

bots
24-01-2016, 10:41 AM
what last night confirmed for me was that there is not a decent one among them (i've been saying it from the start)

There is only one reason each and every one of them is in there - for the money. They don't care, have no compassion, and are all people I would never have time for in the real world. A thoroughly dislikeable bunch, with zero redeeming qualities.

RichardG
24-01-2016, 10:46 AM
The edit could make Mother Theresa look like a villain, manipulating the viewers into hating or feeling sorry for someone

I always heard people talking about how a housemate could be badly edited and I was always of the opinion that that was silly because they can only show what the housemates themselves said, so I was a bit surprised last night when I saw that actually no the edit genuinely can completely change the meaning of what someone is saying. :laugh:

MrWong
24-01-2016, 10:47 AM
On the live feed last night John said to Tiffany in the bathroom "I've already won because I'm getting paid. I don't care about actually being crowned the winner" yet on the highlights tonight they cut out his reason and just moved onto the next scene right after he said that he's already won.

I don't like John at all and definitely don't support him BUT I thought that was some really sneaky editing by BB and it does make me wonder which other house events we've been fed an incorrect picture of thanks to the lack of live feed. He got a bunch of hate on twitter tonight for that comment from people who thought he meant that he'd already won the show itself. As someone else said in a different thread, they might as well have given him a cat to stroke and a spinny chair because they made him look like some kind of evil genius. :laugh:

I think John was extremely lucky in the edit.

They could have shown him repeatedly saying to Tiff (live feed Friday night) that he would 'never humiliate a young girl like that' when she asked him about knickergate. It wasn't clear at the time what Tiff was on about or what John was denying and only became obvious on Saturday's highlights.

Clearly he was trying to 'humiliate a young girl like that' because he was shown stopping Christopher from turning them over and then went on to say that the person should be named and shamed.

Suze
24-01-2016, 10:55 AM
John's right, he has already won, because he's done what he came there for, for money for his Mum's care. So in that respect he has won.

joeysteele
24-01-2016, 10:58 AM
He means he has got the cash to look after his mother , that's why he done the show .I am not his biggest fan but that what I took from that convo.

Exactly right.

jet
24-01-2016, 10:58 AM
I think John was extremely lucky in the edit.

They could have shown him repeatedly saying to Tiff (live feed Friday night) that he would 'never humiliate a young girl like that' when she asked him about knickergate. It wasn't clear at the time what Tiff was on about or what John was denying and only became obvious on Saturday's highlights.

Clearly he was trying to 'humiliate a young girl like that' because he was shown stopping Christopher from turning them over and then went on to say that the person should be named and shamed.

I KNEW I'd picked up a lie from John somewhere in that convo but couldn't remember what it was specifically. I thought it was about who put the knickers on the table originally (which didn't really matter anyway.) It was still nagging at me that he HAD lied about something....Thanks Mr. Wong!

How anyone is still saying how nice John is beats me.

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 10:58 AM
you are absolutely right. He is a winner. It is strange but unfortunately true, that a lot of people equate winning with being crowned "The Winner", when in reality it is about being a decent person. No matter what GC or TP may say John is most definitely a better person than either of them. His behaviour during the whole "Davids' dead" debacle was not intimidation or puppet mastering, he was the only one capable of expressing what most (if they are honest) of the housemates were thinking at that time, that TP was a loose cannon, as her behaviour at the time showed. She had clearly lost the plot over Angie's news, but at NO POINT did Angie say to TP "David Gest is Dead" which is what TP kept saying to housemates. Angie said "Davids dead" the fact that TP took that to be DG was her own fault, and shows that she is volatile, but to say that Angie said "David Gest is dead" was a lie, plain and simple. John being older, and dare i say it WITH MORE INTELLIGENCE could see through TP and clearly was concerned not only for her but for the fellow housemates, lets face it, her language, behaviour and ranting dont actually tend to show a stable minded logical reasonable woman. I think she showed all of us viewing public last night her true self, when she declared she would "open my arms, my mouth and my legs" to "comfort" Scotty T! John has undoubtably proved himself to be a winner, and lets remember its for his Mum, not him, thats the mark of a truly unselfish person. I truly hope that BB makes GC do a horrid task to keep her immunity, so that she walks, she has proved to be a vile piece of work, and as someone said her "career" will hopefully head South.

Great post,Nothing else needs to be said regarding John,he's not perfect,but he's a darn sight better person than the majority in there.

jet
24-01-2016, 11:07 AM
Great post,Nothing else needs to be said regarding John,he's not perfect,but he's a darn sight better person than the majority in there.

For a grown man to want to name and shame any girl, to tell the others not to cover the knickers up but to leave them as they are, and then go and tell everyone else about them, he is a DISGRACE.
I'm not saying the others weren't nasty about it, but John instigated the whole thing, and is certainly NOT a darn sight better.

MrWong
24-01-2016, 11:07 AM
I KNEW I'd picked up a lie from John somewhere in that convo but couldn't remember what it was specifically. I thought it was about who put the knickers on the table originally (which didn't really matter anyway.) It was still nagging at me that he HAD lied about something....Thanks Mr. Wong!

How anyone is still saying how nice John is beats me.

Maybe they are making a cuppa during the nasty bits?

The edit saved his arse.

MrWong
24-01-2016, 11:09 AM
Great post,Nothing else needs to be said regarding John,he's not perfect,but he's a darn sight better person than the majority in there.

Actually he's a bitch because he did try to 'humiliate a young girl'.

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 11:12 AM
Actually he's a bitch because he did try to 'humiliate a young girl'.

Oh,perhaps he should just have just called her a "Fat ****" and fawned all over the women eh?and offered to open his legs for Scottie, now THAT's entertainment.

Princess Pixie
24-01-2016, 11:15 AM
Oh,perhaps he should just have just called her a "Fat ****" and fawned all over the women eh?and offered to open his legs for Scottie, now THAT's entertainment.
Exactly!

MrWong
24-01-2016, 11:19 AM
Oh,perhaps he should just have just called her a "Fat ****" and fawned all over the women eh?and offered to open his legs for Scottie, now THAT's entertainment.

You could start a Fat **** thread if you like.

joeysteele
24-01-2016, 11:22 AM
Oh,perhaps he should just have just called her a "Fat ****" and fawned all over the women eh?and offered to open his legs for Scottie, now THAT's entertainment.

Well for me the whole thing should only reflect badly on Steph,they were in to be washed with others effects too likely.
She should have made sure she washed them herself,not in anyway justify leaving them for probably days.

Absolutely unbelievable that Jeremy went to do them for her, even worse was she originally said they were not hers too.

The best way to ensure you are not embarrassed about something is to ensure you cannot be and the simple act of washing them right away,raher than leave them anywhere,would have made any embarrassment to her impossible.

The guys, all 3 of them, did not know who they belonged so how any of them and particularly John, get a bad reading on this is beyond me totally.

Suze
24-01-2016, 11:26 AM
Well for me the whole thing should only reflect badly on Steph,they were in to be washed with others effects too likely.
She should have made sure she washed them herself,not in anyway justify leaving them for probably days.

Absolutely unbelievable that Jeremy went to do them for her, even worse was she originally said they were not hers too.

The best way to ensure you are not embarrassed about something is to ensure you cannot be and the simple act of washing them right away,raher than leave them anywhere,would have made any embarrassment to her impossible.

The guys, all 3 of them, did not know who they belonged so how any of them and particularly John, get a bad reading on this is beyond me totally.
It's always going to be John's fault though, Joey :joker:

MrWong
24-01-2016, 11:29 AM
Well for me the whole thing should only reflect badly on Steph,they were in to be washed with others effects too likely.
She should have made sure she washed them herself,not in anyway justify leaving them for probably days.

Absolutely unbelievable that Jeremy went to do them for her, even worse was she originally said they were not hers too.

The best way to ensure you are not embarrassed about something is to ensure you cannot be and the simple act of washing them right away,raher than leave them anywhere,would have made any embarrassment to her impossible.

The guys, all 3 of them, did not know who they belonged so how any of them and particularly John, get a bad reading on this is beyond me totally.

John stopped Christopher from covering them up and then decided that the person who owned the knickers should be named and shamed, that's how.

joeysteele
24-01-2016, 11:34 AM
It's always going to be John's fault though, Joey :joker:

I know, Christopher was screaming his head off after they found them too,Darren wasn't saying just leave them and forget about them either.
It was right they wanted to find who they belonged to, they could have even been a health hazard for all anyone knew.

Only one person to blame for that and that is Steph and she got what was well and truly due to her, sorry but that's my view.

I am trying to think what Steph and the other women would have done had they been one of Johns, Christophers or Darrens effects found badly soiled and just dumped for days too.

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 11:55 AM
John stopped Christopher from covering them up and then decided that the person who owned the knickers should be named and shamed, that's how.

In your head maybe,they were ALL as bad,and John was clearly joking as they didn't even know whos they were,he said nothing else after,it was the girls who kept on about it and said "I bet they are Stephs",the lads were just being dicks,the THREE lads that is.one thing is for sure thought they KNEW they weren't Gemmas:laugh:

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 11:57 AM
I know, Christopher was screaming his head off after they found them too,Darren wasn't saying just leave them and forget about them either.
It was right they wanted to find who they belonged to, they could have even been a health hazard for all anyone knew.

Only one person to blame for that and that is Steph and she got what was well and truly due to her, sorry but that's my view.

I am trying to think what Steph and the other women would have done had they been one of Johns, Christophers or Darrens effects found badly soiled and just dumped for days too.


I would hazard a guess as it being hailed as ENTERTAINMENT Joey.:wavey:

MrWong
24-01-2016, 12:20 PM
In your head maybe,they were ALL as bad,and John was clearly joking as they didn't even know whos they were,he said nothing else after,it was the girls who kept on about it and said "I bet they are Stephs",the lads were just being dicks,the THREE lads that is.one thing is for sure thought they KNEW they weren't Gemmas:laugh:

Nope. It was shown on the highlights.

http://www.channel5.com/shows/celebrity-big-brother/episodes/episode-22-230

Darren/Christopher/John all screamed and ran away when they first saw the knickers. John called the stain pigeon **** which made them laugh.

That's all that Darren did.

Christopher went to cover them and John stopped him and said the person (who owned the knickers) should be named and shamed. Clearly much worse than what Christopher wanted to do.

John then told everyone in the bedroom that there were red knickers on the dining table with pigeon **** in the gusset. The girls made a massive fuss about them not being their knickers. Saying it's disgusting leaving them laying around and that they're probably Stephs. They then went to check. Megan said it's out of order that they'd been left on show like that and used another item of clothing to cover them.

Cherie
24-01-2016, 12:23 PM
I always heard people talking about how a housemate could be badly edited and I was always of the opinion that that was silly because they can only show what the housemates themselves said, so I was a bit surprised last night when I saw that actually no the edit genuinely can completely change the meaning of what someone is saying. :laugh:

Helen Wood is the proof of how editing (and manipulation) can make or break a HM, crowned the winner and one year later leaves to boos :laugh:

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 01:31 PM
John meant he had already won over her in the argument was my take on it ,and he's right, he did

No Chuff... Tiff said to him "you want to win and be the last to leave"..he denied it and then said "I've won already".
It's the sort of thing any arrogant loser would say. He knows he won't win...but he will convince himself that he is a winner anyway, for whatever reason.

chuff me dizzy
24-01-2016, 01:32 PM
Oh,perhaps he should just have just called her a "Fat ****" and fawned all over the women eh?and offered to open his legs for Scottie, now THAT's entertainment.

:clap1:

chuff me dizzy
24-01-2016, 01:33 PM
No Chuff... Tiff said to him "you want to win and be the last to leave"..he denied it and then said "I've won already".
It's the sort of thing any arrogant loser would say. He knows he won't win...but he will convince himself that he is a winner anyway, for whatever reason.

It was edited to an inch of its life ,as has already been proven

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 01:36 PM
John's right, he has already won, because he's done what he came there for, for money for his Mum's care. So in that respect he has won.

Not at all...they get paid to go in and the winner is the last to leave. The 'WINNER' is the one with the most popularity. What's the point of the game if you don't have a winner?...are they all winners then? NO. The losers leave...the losers get voted out. The Winner is the last to leave....and hopefully it won't be John.

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 01:37 PM
It was edited to an inch of its life ,as has already been proven

I watched it on live feed...very little was missed.

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 01:46 PM
In your head maybe,they were ALL as bad,and John was clearly joking as they didn't even know whos they were,he said nothing else after,it was the girls who kept on about it and said "I bet they are Stephs",the lads were just being dicks,the THREE lads that is.one thing is for sure thought they KNEW they weren't Gemmas:laugh:


Sorry I disagree....John went into the bedroom and started telling Daniella and Megan about the knickers in detail and was loving every minute of it. Danielle and Megan said they were not theirs and Gemma said they were not hers ( although judging by the size of them I guess that was obvious)...so obviously they MUST have been Stephs.

chuff me dizzy
24-01-2016, 01:47 PM
I watched it on live feed...very little was missed.

The VITAL bit was missed

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 02:10 PM
Not at all...they get paid to go in and the winner is the last to leave. The 'WINNER' is the one with the most popularity. What's the point of the game if you don't have a winner?...are they all winners then? NO. The losers leave...the losers get voted out. The Winner is the last to leave....and hopefully it won't be John.

The winner gets no more than any of the others,it's just a title,John wants the money for his mothers care,so job done he's won whether he gets licked out next Tuesday or not,I doubt very much he will be pissed off he doesn't get the 'title' as long as he gets his fee.

waterhog
24-01-2016, 02:15 PM
Not at all...they get paid to go in and the winner is the last to leave. The 'WINNER' is the one with the most popularity. What's the point of the game if you don't have a winner?...are they all winners then? NO. The losers leave...the losers get voted out. The Winner is the last to leave....and hopefully it won't be John.

if john went in to raise money or awareness of his mothers needs which he has done - whethere he wins or was booted out first he has done what he went in for which in summing up means he is a WINNER.:dance:

just doing a poem on this subject.

I think I am going to call my poem

don't get your knickers in a twist john - you have already won.

:nono:

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 02:16 PM
if john went in to raise money or awareness of his mothers needs which he has done - whethere he wins or was booted out first he has done what he went in for which in summing up means he is a WINNER.:dance:

just doing a poem on this subject.

I think I am going to call my poem

don't get your knickers in a twist john - you have already won.

:nono:

:laugh::laugh:Looking forward to it hog.

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 02:18 PM
The winner gets no more than any of the others,it's just a title,John wants the money for his mothers care,so job done he's won whether he gets licked out next Tuesday or not,I doubt very much he will be pissed off he doesn't get the 'title' as long as he gets his fee.


....eh John desperately wants to win. It's more than just a title to some of them.
Getting tired of hearing what Johns there for....we would all do that for our parents given the chance.

chuff me dizzy
24-01-2016, 02:20 PM
....eh John desperately wants to win. It's more than just a title to some of them.
Getting tired of hearing what Johns there for....we would all do that for our parents given the chance.

They ALL want to win

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 02:21 PM
They ALL want to win

Yes they do...but some more than others...:wavey:

chuff me dizzy
24-01-2016, 02:23 PM
Yes they do...but some more than others...:wavey:

The most desperate to win is Gemma by far

susie q
24-01-2016, 02:30 PM
Are you saying the 3 of them simultaneously said whoever owned the knickers should be named and shamed and they should be left on the table - which is what my post was about?
Or will you be big enough to tell the truth and admit it was John AND that he lied to Tiff when he denied it?

Wheres the evidence to support this statement? If theres video footage showing him doing it then you should have posted it in the thread. John may not be the nicest of housemates, but he is definitely not stupid. So why would he lie about not doing it, when he knows there are cameras around picking up every move, and lying would not be to his advantage, either with the public or the other housemates if it should get shown to the house. Until someone comes up with the evidence, I shall go with 'innocent till proven guilty'

Daniel R
24-01-2016, 02:30 PM
but where is the lie

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 02:32 PM
....eh John desperately wants to win. It's more than just a title to some of them.
Getting tired of hearing what Johns there for....we would all do that for our parents given the chance.

Well ignore his reasons then,it doesn't change the fact his job is done.

chuff me dizzy
24-01-2016, 02:34 PM
Wheres the evidence to support this statement? If theres video footage showing him doing it then you should have posted it in the thread. John may not be the nicest of housemates, but he is definitely not stupid. So why would he lie about not doing it, when he knows there are cameras around picking up every move, and lying would not be to his advantage, either with the public or the other housemates if it should get shown to the house. Until someone comes up with the evidence, I shall go with 'innocent till proven guilty'

:clap1:

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 02:41 PM
Well ignore his reasons then,it doesn't change the fact his job is done.

I still see it as a 'cop out'.....from someone who so wants to walk out of the house last...and knows he probably won't...it's a great comfort to him to make that statement.
It's just like how some or most people say " oh I'm so glad to be going" when they so obviously are not...

erinp5
24-01-2016, 05:18 PM
Stephanie Davis’ knickers aren’t the most disgusting thing about Celebrity Big Brother
http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/24/stephanie-davis-knickers-arent-the-most-disgusting-thing-about-celebrity-big-brother-5641533/

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 05:32 PM
Wheres the evidence to support this statement? If theres video footage showing him doing it then you should have posted it in the thread. John may not be the nicest of housemates, but he is definitely not stupid. So why would he lie about not doing it, when he knows there are cameras around picking up every move, and lying would not be to his advantage, either with the public or the other housemates if it should get shown to the house. Until someone comes up with the evidence, I shall go with 'innocent till proven guilty'

On last nights show Steph told Tiff that John instigated it. The previous night on LF the full extent of the convo between Tiff and John was played out. Tiff told John that Steph had said he had instigated it and John blatantly said he didn't and wouldn't do that to a 20 year old girl. He denied it. He is a liar.
Try and retrieve the LF footage...

ThriceShy
24-01-2016, 05:35 PM
Stephanie Davis’ knickers aren’t the most disgusting thing about Celebrity Big Brother
http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/24/stephanie-davis-knickers-arent-the-most-disgusting-thing-about-celebrity-big-brother-5641533/

What a pathetic article.

Vaginal discharge might be normal but leaving your discharge filled knickers around the house for days isn't.

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 05:37 PM
On last nights show Steph told Tiff that John instigated it. The previous night on LF the full extent of the convo between Tiff and John was played out. Tiff told John that Steph had said he had instigated it and John blatantly said he didn't and wouldn't do that to a 20 year old girl. He denied it. He is a liar.
Try and retrieve the LF footage...

LOL,now c.mon these stories get more bizarre by the day,Steph said there was THREE of them,Darren,John and Chris,Tiffany said did they all put them there? Steph said No,Tiffany said so who do you think put them there ,Steph said Johnny and Tiffany said I think so too, but the thing is John never put the pants on the table,they were there with other washing,they were discovered when they were sorting the washing,thats when they noticed they were dirty.but its ok lets just blame John:laugh:

ThriceShy
24-01-2016, 05:37 PM
The woman who wrote that metro article is a fruitcake. She says:

It is baffling. It’s baffling that a woman has to pay for the luxury of needing tampons and sanitary towels. It’s baffling that if we don’t use these products and end up with menstrual blood on our clothes we are looked down upon.


What on earth is she talking about? She thinks sanitary towels should be free? Well can razors and shaving gel be free then because I spend a bloody fortune having to shave my face every day as a man. Perhaps bog roll should be free as that is a normal function too.

Who does she think should pay for her sanitary towels?

Feminism has gone mad.

jet
24-01-2016, 05:38 PM
Wheres the evidence to support this statement? If theres video footage showing him doing it then you should have posted it in the thread. John may not be the nicest of housemates, but he is definitely not stupid. So why would he lie about not doing it, when he knows there are cameras around picking up every move, and lying would not be to his advantage, either with the public or the other housemates if it should get shown to the house. Until someone comes up with the evidence, I shall go with 'innocent till proven guilty'

He told Tiff on the live feed that he 'would never humiliate a young girl' when she asked him about it, which was a lie as that is exactly what he had done. Others have also confirmed he said it on live feed. Maybe you haven't read those posts. :shrug: He got a good edit because it was cut out of the h/ls.

rusticgal
24-01-2016, 05:45 PM
LOL,now c.mon these stories get more bizarre by the day,Steph said there was THREE of them,Darren,John and Chris,Tiffany said did they all put them there? Steph said No,Tiffany said so who do you think put them there ,Steph said Johnny and Tiffany said I think so too, but the thing is John never put the pants on the table,they were there with other washing,they were discovered when they were sorting the washing,thats when they noticed they were dirty.but its ok lets just blame John:laugh:


I don't deny that...you are right. That's how the washing got onto the table. However it was John who said about the pigeon poop on the knickers and it was John who said "leave it there to name and shame"...then it was John that went into the bedroom and told Gemma Megan and Danielle.... I'm not making it up.

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 05:47 PM
I don't deny that...you are right. That's how the washing got onto the table. However it was John who said about the pigeon poop on the knickers and it was John who said "leave it there to name and shame"...then it was John that went into the bedroom and told Gemma Megan and Danielle.... I'm not making it up.

Did you forget or see what Chris or Darren were doing/saying? probably not, as people tend to focus on John,and did you see John talking to Jeremy and Steph about it after?

joeysteele
24-01-2016, 05:54 PM
Wheres the evidence to support this statement? If theres video footage showing him doing it then you should have posted it in the thread. John may not be the nicest of housemates, but he is definitely not stupid. So why would he lie about not doing it, when he knows there are cameras around picking up every move, and lying would not be to his advantage, either with the public or the other housemates if it should get shown to the house. Until someone comes up with the evidence, I shall go with 'innocent till proven guilty'

When John mentioned finding out who and/or naming and shaming the only person they knew they didn't belong to was Gemma for obvious reasons.
John did not know they were Stephs at the time he said the comment, and in my view, he or anyone else would have been fully right to say it and actually do it.
The person who left them for days for maybe others to come into contact with was filthy and disgusting.
Naming and shaming the culprit was the absolute very least they should have got done as to them,in my opinion.

MrWong
24-01-2016, 06:01 PM
Did you forget or see what Chris or Darren were doing/saying? probably not, as people tend to focus on John,and did you see John talking to Jeremy and Steph about it after?

In another thread I replied to you pointing out Darren and Christopher's miniscule role in knickergate.

White_L10N
24-01-2016, 07:44 PM
John and Tiff talking was really quite humerous. John played the part like a scene in Eastenders. You could see Tiff trying to act back because I think she could sense he was just humouring her scepticism. So funny.

Kazanne
24-01-2016, 07:47 PM
John and Tiff talking was really quite humerous. John played the part like a scene in Eastenders. You could see Tiff trying to act back because I think she could sense he was just humouring her scepticism. So funny.

Shame they didn't show the full scenario,as, it is, It doesn't really make much sense,I did love john in that though,even Tiffany couldn't help but laugh

Razor
25-01-2016, 08:52 AM
I Pmsl as it messed with tiffanys head.