View Full Version : Why Gemma is being attacked
hot2go
27-01-2016, 09:53 AM
Most people dislike her because she is cheating and is lazy, greedy, selfish, mean spirited and unkind ....a huge amount of people have spent the last three weeks hi lighting this huge injustice against the other housemates and against the paying public...but these rational and frustrated observations about Gemma have mostly been met with lies, excuses, insults, accusations, cover ups and sometimes bans for those who complain that it's unfair and hypocrisy ....people refuse to accept the mountain of proof that confirm that she is lazy, selfish and greedy....if she is allowed to cheat, lie and skive by big brother then people are left with no where to put that resentment...she makes herself hated but she is at the same time made untouchable with the help of others and with the help of big brother
We are not allowed to reach her because she is being protected by enablers who make it possible for her to get away with it. If all the proof that she is greedy and lazy and selfish is not good enough then the only form of attack remaining is her weight because no lies, insults and cover ups can deny the fact that she def is fat....and a part of the reason for that is because she is bone idle and lazy and greedy
I dislike her because she is unkind to others and is being protected from any accountability for it but mostly I dislike her, and big brothers protection of her, for making me so angry and leaving me with no where to channel it
I have no sympathy for her and any over weight people will hopefully realise what this is about ....it's just a hook to try and reach her, it's not an attack on them.
If a gay housemate behaved so appallingly, yet was made untouchable, then insults about the fact that they are gay would become people's last resort....I am gay and I totally would understand what that is and I would not take it personally and I would not be offended.
Now we have the victim card and I think its all a bit too convenient ....we have been played .....or should I say goaded and provoked.
jaxie
27-01-2016, 09:57 AM
Most people dislike her because she is cheating and is lazy, greedy, selfish, mean spirited and unkind ....a huge amount of people have spent the last three weeks hi lighting this huge injustice against the other housemates and against the paying public...but these rational and frustrated observations about Gemma have mostly been met with lies, excuses, insults, accusations, cover ups and sometimes bans for those who complain that it's unfair and hypocrisy ....people refuse to accept the mountain of proof that confirm that she is lazy, selfish and greedy....if she is allowed to cheat, lie and skive by big brother then people are left with no where to put that resentment...she makes herself hated but she is at the same time made untouchable with the help of others and with the help of big brother
We are not allowed to reach her because she is being protected by enablers who make it possible for her to get away with it. If all the proof that she is greedy and lazy and selfish is not good enough then the only form of attack remaining is her weight because no lies, insults and cover ups can deny the fact that she def is fat....and a part of the reason for that is because she is bone idle and lazy and greedy
I dislike her because she is unkind to others and is being protected from any accountability for it but mostly I dislike her, and big brothers protection of her, for making me so angry and leaving me with no where to channel it
I have no sympathy for her and any over weight people will hopefully realise what this is about ....it's just a hook to try and reach her, it's not an attack on them.
If a gay housemate behaved so appallingly, yet was made untouchable, then insults about the fact that they are gay would become people's last resort....I am gay and I totally would understand what that is and I would not take it personally and I would not be offended.
Now we have the victim card and I think its all a bit too convenient ....we have been played .....or should I say goaded and provoked.
I think that we get that you don't like Gemma Collins.:spin:
hot2go
27-01-2016, 10:03 AM
I think that we get that you don't like Gemma Collins.:spin:
This is more about rational reasons why people are attacking her but I know you're not interested in those so I can't imagine why you're responding to be honest.....let's not waste your time and mine eh ?
Jamie89
27-01-2016, 10:05 AM
The reason I dislike her as a housemate is because she doesn't throw herself into the tasks, it's something that really bugs me :laugh: (especially on CBB since they're getting paid). And the reason I don't really like her as a person is, just her general personality to be honest. And I find her arrogance really off putting. But she does bring some entertainment and I don't hate her or anything. I don't mind her being in there, I just really wouldn't like her to win.
Cherie
27-01-2016, 10:10 AM
I'm torn on this I she has brought a lot to the show but in terms of being in the BB house and playing by BB rules which is allegedly the whole point of the experience I dislike it that she appears to be in control of BB rather than the other way round
Crimson Dynamo
27-01-2016, 10:11 AM
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jaxie
27-01-2016, 11:04 AM
This is more about rational reasons why people are attacking her but I know you're not interested in those so I can't imagine why you're responding to be honest.....let's not waste your time and mine eh ?
I don't think going on about her weight is that rational tbh, it smacks of obsession. :nono:
jaxie
27-01-2016, 11:04 AM
I'm torn on this I she has brought a lot to the show but in terms of being in the BB house and playing by BB rules which is allegedly the whole point of the experience I dislike it that she appears to be in control of BB rather than the other way round
I find it kind of amusing that she seems to have BB by the short and curlies, they just don't seem to know what to do with her. :hehe:
I'm torn on this I she has brought a lot to the show but in terms of being in the BB house and playing by BB rules which is allegedly the whole point of the experience I dislike it that she appears to be in control of BB rather than the other way round
I don't think she is in control of BB - they would never let that happen. I think it is simply that they see her as good for their show. She is providing entertainment, talking points, action, a lot of interest in her shenanigans. I'd say they are loving her refusal of tasks, etc, for lets face it, there isn't really any big storylines in there apart from the cheating Steph and the fawning Jeremy, which is a total snoozefest.
They aren't letting her control them, they are using her and her actions for viewing figures, it's what it's all about. Of course they aren't going to punish her and tell her she'll be removed if she does it again....Gemma IS the show so far.
Maybe now that the lovely Tiff is stepping it up...:hehe:
rusticgal
27-01-2016, 11:21 AM
I think you are making excuses for targeting her weight. I agree with the fact that she has got away with murder. However that does not give any excuse to call her names relating to her size...equally if you were in the house as a gay man and you annoyed me for getting away with so much...how cruel and unacceptable would it be for me to ostracise you on your sexuality.
What you say is ridiculous....she is simply lazy,idle and spoilt.
hot2go
27-01-2016, 11:25 AM
I find it kind of amusing that she seems to have BB by the short and curlies, they just don't seem to know what to do with her. :hehe:
You call it amusing......I call it theft ....a long with many other people who have spent their money believing there favourite house mate has a chance of winning when the reality is that Gemma is actually cheating.
You call it amusing......I call it theft ....a long with many other people who have spent their money believing there favourite house mate has a chance of winning when the reality is that Gemma is actually cheating.
That's debatable as it could be said she is doing it to entertain. Yet you don't mind Steph cheating on her boyfriend as I have seen you actively encourage it- for entertainment purposes.
....hmmmm, just to play devil's advocate here..:tongue:..I can kind of see some of the points that hot2go is making...(although I don't think that being offensive/abusive etc about weight or anything at all physical in a housemate is ever necessary for any reason..)...but in the house, what has often been seen is 'lazy', Gemma DOESN'T DO TASKS, she'll get out of bed when she wants to, thank you very much, she likes people to do things for her...so what we see is a 'lazy person' and an avoiding person to do anything/or as little as possible and as she can get way with....it's not really comparable to things like 'if it was a gay person' like someone said because sexuality isn't a choice..(although obviously it would also when describing a character, to comment about their sexuality also...like you gay whatever, or you fat whatever..)....but with things like obesity/being overweight..we're often told by medical people that there is no reason why someone should be greatly overweight, other than over-eating and lack of exercise...(I personally don't think it's that simple and think there are often deep insecurities and self esteem/self worth issues as well....)....but constantly medical people themselves are saying...'it's that simple/over eating/lack of exercise'...so they're reinforcing all of the time and through media as well that 'overweight=lazy'..and then when displays of 'lazy' are seen from a housemate..and what is seen is a visual fitting a personality.../hmmmm well.....
...but I do agree that you're getting a bit obsessive though hot2go and we're getting worried about you, so time to give it up now..:fist:...
..:laugh:..
Denver
27-01-2016, 12:32 PM
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Women like her should stay dressed at all times :omgno:
I personally just don't like her character, but then, I don't like any of them this series. None of them are endearing at all.
As to her refusing to do the tasks, I think its irrelevant. The tasks have become pointless drivel, so why would BB care if she refused to take part. If she gets the votes to save, it doesn't matter if she gets put up for eviction. No recent celeb series have been without plenty food and booze every night, as that is what causes the conflicts. BB therefore have no reason to limit it and punish them.
cfromhx02
27-01-2016, 12:46 PM
REALLY someone thinks Gemma is hard done by.OK we're all entitled to our own opinion I suppose.
Gemma again got out of a task by claiming to be ill.I notice Steph was ill earlier layed up in bed before she was upset over Jez yet she still did the Gillian what's her name task.
RockBottom
27-01-2016, 12:48 PM
I don't think she is in control of BB - they would never let that happen. I think it is simply that they see her as good for their show. She is providing entertainment, talking points, action, a lot of interest in her shenanigans. I'd say they are loving her refusal of tasks, etc, for lets face it, there isn't really any big storylines in there apart from the cheating Steph and the fawning Jeremy, which is a total snoozefest.
They aren't letting her control them, they are using her and her actions for viewing figures, it's what it's all about. Of course they aren't going to punish her and tell her she'll be removed if she does it again....Gemma IS the show so far.
Maybe now that the lovely Tiff is stepping it up...:hehe:
It is great to see people pointing out Gemma Collins redeeming qualities and I use that word lightly. If I remember correctly you always saw the good in Helen Wood :hehe:
hot2go
27-01-2016, 12:54 PM
That's debatable as it could be said she is doing it to entertain. Yet you don't mind Steph cheating on her boyfriend as I have seen you actively encourage it- for entertainment purposes.
I am not entertained by Steph wanting to be with Jeremy, I am just not against it....I don't think it is any more entertaining than Gemma always clinging to Christopher......but I like Jeremy a lot and I like Steph and I find their personalities entertaining, I think she is funny and I think he is a really laid back and friendly guy ....I dislike Stephs boyfriend a great deal so I actually think Steph would be better off with Jeremy....anyone young going in the BB house know exactly what it's about, and so do anyone's partners.... it would be very naive to think otherwise.
Steph cheating on her boyfriend is non of my business and I have not judged her for it since it started, maybe because I had seen what a cold arrogant guy her other half is....I just be wish her to be happy, I really don't care about him.
But Gemma cheating is very much my business, because I have spent money believing this to be a competition, I also invested many hours of time supporting the show....I think BB are a disgrace for allowing Gemma to opt out of everything since day one and to leave the house many times....I think she should have been punished for refusing to do tasks and she should have been evicted for leaving and breaking the fire doors open twice
She is a thief, her cheating since day one has robbed the viewers who have spent their money and who are told it's a fair game....it is fraud
Niamh.
27-01-2016, 12:55 PM
Women like her should stay dressed at all times :omgno:
Men like you should just stay away from beaches then :idc:
It is great to see people pointing out Gemma Collins redeeming qualities and I use that word lightly. If I remember correctly you always saw the good in Helen Wood :hehe:
OMG NO! :shocked: You don't remember correctly, I couldn't stand Helen Wood. :nono:
Denver
27-01-2016, 12:58 PM
Men like you should just stay away from beaches then :idc:
I don't go to the beach :wavey:
Niamh.
27-01-2016, 12:59 PM
I don't go to the beach :wavey:
Or swimming pools for that matter :idc:
WHY IS SHE BEING ATTACKED.
Cause she's a big fat loudmouthed beast.
Denver
27-01-2016, 01:01 PM
Or swimming pools for that matter :idc:
Eww public swimming pools digust me I don't want to swallow a plaster
Niamh.
27-01-2016, 01:03 PM
Eww public swimming pools digust me I don't want to swallow a plaster
You don't swim at all when you go on holiday then? Or do you have your own private swimming pool?
Denver
27-01-2016, 01:07 PM
You don't swim at all when you go on holiday then? Or do you have your own private swimming pool?
Well I only swim in the part nobody is around
Niamh.
27-01-2016, 01:08 PM
Well I only swim in the part nobody is around
Good job plasters can't travel to those parts :hee:
Denver
27-01-2016, 01:13 PM
Good job plasters can't travel to those parts :hee:
My fear is to swallow a big fat smelly poo
Niamh.
27-01-2016, 01:15 PM
My fear is to swallow a big fat smelly poo
I'm sure it'd be quite difficult to accidentally swallow a big fat smelly poo :laugh:
Denver
27-01-2016, 01:18 PM
I'm sure i'd be quite difficult to accidentally swallow a big fat smelly poo :laugh:
It happened in Kevin and Perry :fist:
But Gemma cheating is very much my business, because I have spent money believing this to be a competition, I also invested many hours of time supporting the show....I think BB are a disgrace for allowing Gemma to opt out of everything since day one and to leave the house many times....I think she should have been punished for refusing to do tasks and she should have been evicted for leaving and breaking the fire doors open twice
She is a thief, her cheating since day one has robbed the viewers who have spent their money and who are told it's a fair game....it is fraud
BB cheat people all the time into making people believe what they want them to believe. The majority of viewers just watch the highlight show and not the live feed, so they can leave out certain things to make a conversation or scene seem completely different to how it actually is.
For example, they showed Gemma pushing past Steph in the garden, yet they didn't show the HM's remarking about how Steph had been sniping at Gemma for two days before that. Even Jeremy told her to 'cut it out' under the covers but none of that was in the highlights as far as I seen.
When Tiff was asking John about knickergate on the live feed, he said 'I would never humiliate a young girl like that' - a blatant lie because he was the main instigator as we all seen. Yet that was never shown in the H/Ls.
It is all done to suit their agenda.
So you are spending your money and your time anyway on a contrived version and what they want you to see.
And as I said elsewhere on this thread:
I don't think Gemma is in control of BB - they would never let that happen. I think it is simply that they see her as good for their show. She is providing entertainment, talking points, action, a lot of interest in her shenanigans. I'd say they are loving her refusal of tasks, etc, for lets face it, there isn't really any big storylines in there apart from the cheating Steph and the fawning Jeremy, which is a total snoozefest.
They aren't letting her control them, they are using her and her actions for viewing figures, it's what it's all about. Of course they aren't going to punish her and tell her she'll be removed if she does it again....Gemma IS the show so far.
Maybe now that the lovely Tiff is stepping it up...
chuff me dizzy
27-01-2016, 01:22 PM
Most people dislike her because she is cheating and is lazy, greedy, selfish, mean spirited and unkind ....a huge amount of people have spent the last three weeks hi lighting this huge injustice against the other housemates and against the paying public...but these rational and frustrated observations about Gemma have mostly been met with lies, excuses, insults, accusations, cover ups and sometimes bans for those who complain that it's unfair and hypocrisy ....people refuse to accept the mountain of proof that confirm that she is lazy, selfish and greedy....if she is allowed to cheat, lie and skive by big brother then people are left with no where to put that resentment...she makes herself hated but she is at the same time made untouchable with the help of others and with the help of big brother
We are not allowed to reach her because she is being protected by enablers who make it possible for her to get away with it. If all the proof that she is greedy and lazy and selfish is not good enough then the only form of attack remaining is her weight because no lies, insults and cover ups can deny the fact that she def is fat....and a part of the reason for that is because she is bone idle and lazy and greedy
I dislike her because she is unkind to others and is being protected from any accountability for it but mostly I dislike her, and big brothers protection of her, for making me so angry and leaving me with no where to channel it
I have no sympathy for her and any over weight people will hopefully realise what this is about ....it's just a hook to try and reach her, it's not an attack on them.
If a gay housemate behaved so appallingly, yet was made untouchable, then insults about the fact that they are gay would become people's last resort....I am gay and I totally would understand what that is and I would not take it personally and I would not be offended.
Now we have the victim card and I think its all a bit too convenient ....we have been played .....or should I say goaded and provoked.
:worship:
Jack_
27-01-2016, 01:29 PM
The only reason people resort to attacking people's appearance is:
1) They have insecurities of their own
2) They have no other way of insulting them
3) They take reality TV far too seriously
That's all there is to it
jaxie
27-01-2016, 01:42 PM
The only reason people resort to attacking people's appearance is:
1) They have insecurities of their own
2) They have no other way of insulting them
3) They take reality TV far too seriously
That's all there is to it
:clap2:
The only reason people resort to attacking people's appearance is:
1) They have insecurities of their own
2) They have no other way of insulting them
3) They take reality TV far too seriously
That's all there is to it
well said.
Carl Jayson
27-01-2016, 01:51 PM
Gemma is hot property and the biggest/most recognised name in there right now, that's why. Of course people are going to hate her when she tells it how it is and is the most famous in there
Marsh.
27-01-2016, 01:52 PM
Gemma is hot property
:joker:
Which is why she's in a channel 5 reality show.
Carl Jayson
27-01-2016, 01:55 PM
:joker:
Which is why she's in a channel 5 reality show.
Which is why she's one of the highest paid in said reality show :clap1:
Marsh.
27-01-2016, 01:56 PM
Which is why she's one of the highest paid in said reality show :clap1:
Like being the most popular on the pedo wing in prison. :clap1:
Carl Jayson
27-01-2016, 01:56 PM
Like being the most popular on the pedo wing in prison. :clap1:
Popularity is popularity :clap1:
Denver
27-01-2016, 02:01 PM
Which is why she's one of the highest paid in said reality show :clap1:
She isn't one of the highest paid
hot2go
27-01-2016, 02:04 PM
...but I do agree that you're getting a bit obsessive though hot2go and we're getting worried about you, so time to give it up now..:fist:...
..:laugh:..
No need to worry about me, im not obsessed, im just focused and strongly believe that the competition should be equal or not at all...I will not swerve from that opinion.....but I always read your posts cause you make points that I haven't considered.
hot2go
27-01-2016, 02:17 PM
Popularity is popularity :clap1:
Well there are huge variances.....popularity at any cost like Gemma is obtaining must be a very vacuous feeling compared to popularity through respect and love like David received who didn't even complete the show.
I imagine Gemma must feel quite hollow inside but she would never be honest or brave enough to admit that.
Ignoring her flaws and instead telling her she's great is not being kind to her really....it's what people did to Michael Jackson and it made him lose touch with reality.
She appears to have learnt nothing in the house and that's sad....of all this years HMs she disappointed me most
Well there are huge variances.....popularity at any cost like Gemma is obtaining must be a very vacuous feeling compared to popularity through respect and love like David received who didn't even complete the show.
I imagine Gemma must feel quite hollow inside but she would never be honest or brave enough to admit that.
Ignoring her flaws and instead telling her she's great is not being kind to her really....it's what people did to Michael Jackson and it made him lose touch with reality.
She appears to have learnt nothing in the house and that's sad....of all this years HMs she disappointed me most
We'd never have guessed. :hehe:
hot2go
27-01-2016, 03:21 PM
BB cheat people all the time into making people believe what they want them to believe. The majority of viewers just watch the highlight show and not the live feed, so they can leave out certain things to make a conversation or scene seem completely different to how it actually is.
For example, they showed Gemma pushing past Steph in the garden, yet they didn't show the HM's remarking about how Steph had been sniping at Gemma for two days before that. Even Jeremy told her to 'cut it out' under the covers but none of that was in the highlights as far as I seen.
When Tiff was asking John about knickergate on the live feed, he said 'I would never humiliate a young girl like that' - a blatant lie because he was the main instigator as we all seen. Yet that was never shown in the H/Ls.
It is all done to suit their agenda.
So you are spending your money and your time anyway on a contrived version and what they want you to see.
And as I said elsewhere on this thread:
I don't think Gemma is in control of BB - they would never let that happen. I think it is simply that they see her as good for their show. She is providing entertainment, talking points, action, a lot of interest in her shenanigans. I'd say they are loving her refusal of tasks, etc, for lets face it, there isn't really any big storylines in there apart from the cheating Steph and the fawning Jeremy, which is a total snoozefest.
They aren't letting her control them, they are using her and her actions for viewing figures, it's what it's all about. Of course they aren't going to punish her and tell her she'll be removed if she does it again....Gemma IS the show so far.
Maybe now that the lovely Tiff is stepping it up...
So often Gemmas actions are only justified by comparing her to others ....it's good to do that sometimes but to mostly do that just weakens the defence a bit...
I empathise with nice people who support Gemma, I really do and I think you're one of those....I support Jeremy and I receive a barage of abuse because of it so I know it's not an easy position....but I am gen sorry, I don't agree that she's been this years entertainment.....I think she's been a talking point because of BBs actions and not because of her own...if BB had made special dispensation for Tiffany all these weeks or for Daniela then we would be having the conversation about them and not Gemma. It's mostly what she's been allowed to not do that's been the biggest talking point and not what she's actually done...cause in truth, she hasn't actually done anything that remarkable...or said anything that funny compared to most of the others that went I there.
I did not start of with this opinion, I liked her from what little I'd seen on panel shows etc....id never watched TOWIE....I was excited about her going in the Jungle and I was excited about her going in BB....it's not some kind of hatred as a sport....it's based on my own principles and the lack of hers.
Moosething
27-01-2016, 04:30 PM
The only reason people resort to attacking people's appearance is:
1) They have insecurities of their own
2) They have no other way of insulting them
3) They take reality TV far too seriously
That's all there is to it
Truth
So often Gemmas actions are only justified by comparing her to others ....it's good to do that sometimes but to mostly do that just weakens the defence a bit...
I empathise with nice people who support Gemma, I really do and I think you're one of those....I support Jeremy and I receive a barage of abuse because of it so I know it's not an easy position....but I am gen sorry, I don't agree that she's been this years entertainment.....I think she's been a talking point because of BBs actions and not because of her own...if BB had made special dispensation for Tiffany all these weeks or for Daniela then we would be having the conversation about them and not Gemma. It's mostly what she's been allowed to not do that's been the biggest talking point and not what she's actually done...cause in truth, she hasn't actually done anything that remarkable...or said anything that funny compared to most of the others that went I there.
I did not start of with this opinion, I liked her from what little I'd seen on panel shows etc....id never watched TOWIE....I was excited about her going in the Jungle and I was excited about her going in BB....it's not some kind of hatred as a sport....it's based on my own principles and the lack of hers.
Well we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Since Angie left the house (I loved her) to me Gemma has been the star of the show and I find her to be the most entertaining, followed by Tiffany (who is my actual favourite HM.) We all find different things entertaining and amusing, and to me Gemma is hilarious at times, and Tiff too, and I don't find any of the others amusing or interesting. I like Darren a lot but he doesn't exactly make great CBB viewing.
I defend Gemma because she makes me laugh, and I love to laugh, but also because of the disgusting remarks made about her weight and the exaggerations made about her nature - she has been branded a bully for instance and I don't see that at all. The times on this site where actual bullies like Helen Wood have been defended by people saying "The bully word is bandied about far too much"!!!! but when it's someone they dislike they shout BULLY! for little reason. Who exactly has she bullied? She is branded vile and disgusting and I don't see that either. I see that she is lazy, wants her own way and speaks her mind, but bully, no, vile, no, disgusting, no.
She doesn't hold grudges, she doesn't yell or scream at anyone, she doesn't have to have the last word, and basically she is harmless. Megan said in her interview that she really likes her, and Christopher said he 'gets' her now and that she is great. They have lived with her 24 hours a day, so they should know.
But apart from all that, we like who we like and nothing is going to change our minds. (Well, wait - I didn't like Tiff at first, but now I love her!) :laugh:
hot2go
27-01-2016, 06:11 PM
Well we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Since Angie left the house (I loved her) to me Gemma has been the star of the show and I find her to be the most entertaining, followed by Tiffany (who is my actual favourite HM.) We all find different things entertaining and amusing, and to me Gemma is hilarious at times, and Tiff too, and I don't find any of the others amusing or interesting. I like Darren a lot but he doesn't exactly make great CBB viewing.
I defend Gemma because she makes me laugh, and I love to laugh, but also because of the disgusting remarks made about her weight and the exaggerations made about her nature - she has been branded a bully for instance and I don't see that at all. The times on this site where actual bullies like Helen Wood have been defended by people saying "The bully word is bandied about far too much"!!!! but when it's someone they dislike they shout BULLY! for little reason. Who exactly has she bullied? She is branded vile and disgusting and I don't see that either. I see that she is lazy, wants her own way and speaks her mind, but bully, no, vile, no, disgusting, no.
She doesn't hold grudges, she doesn't yell or scream at anyone, she doesn't have to have the last word, and basically she is harmless. Megan said in her interview that she really likes her, and Christopher said he 'gets' her now and that she is great. They have lived with her 24 hours a day, so they should know.
But apart from all that, we like who we like and nothing is going to change our minds. (Well, wait - I didn't like Tiff at first, but now I love her!) :laugh:
Well we both agree on Angie so we def share something positive there jet 😃 And I don't want Gemma to win so I am voting for my favourite who can't win and I am voting for Tiffany who can ...so we may both end up with a winner we are happy with
Well we both agree on Angie so we def share something positive there jet 😃 And I don't want Gemma to win so I am voting for my favourite who can't win and I am voting for Tiffany who can ...so we may both end up with a winner we are happy with
I'd love Gemma to get to the final, and if she does she will probably go in the vote to evict, so the winner will hopefully be Tiff. :fc:
Marsh.
27-01-2016, 06:25 PM
Men like you should just stay away from beaches then :idc:
Beached whales are an increasing problem. :sad:
Women like her should stay dressed at all times :omgno:
People say that about old people as well but I say bring on the nudist beaches and take it all off!
Gemma runs cold for me most of the time because of her busybody behavior, but I can at least respect her amazing amount of self-enthusiasm/self-respect... it's almost like she has an inner Oprah always telling her how to feel good about herself. :hehe: Even if she is very selfish, it is an admirable trait.
Then you compare to someone like Stephanie who sits better on society's measure of beauty and she's breaking down just about anytime anyone says anything that can be perceived as negative about her... Gemma at least has a thicker skin for the MOST part when she isn't using other people's insults to act a fool/control everything else around her.
If she had just keep her mouth shut sometimes and keep pushing everyone's boundaries with her antics like she has been, she may have a good chance to win.
wendywillow
27-01-2016, 07:18 PM
gemma hardly even trying in the tasks, which is a big chunk of the show, kind of ruins it for me
ThriceShy
27-01-2016, 07:28 PM
The only reason people resort to attacking people's appearance is:
1) They have insecurities of their own
2) They have no other way of insulting them
3) They take reality TV far too seriously
That's all there is to it
But we aren't here to discuss each other. If you have to resort to that then you have lost the debate.
Jack_
27-01-2016, 07:32 PM
But we aren't here to discuss each other. If you have to resort to that then you have lost the debate.
How ironic.
susie q
27-01-2016, 07:43 PM
Most people dislike her because she is cheating and is lazy, greedy, selfish, mean spirited and unkind ....a huge amount of people have spent the last three weeks hi lighting this huge injustice against the other housemates and against the paying public...but these rational and frustrated observations about Gemma have mostly been met with lies, excuses, insults, accusations, cover ups and sometimes bans for those who complain that it's unfair and hypocrisy ....people refuse to accept the mountain of proof that confirm that she is lazy, selfish and greedy....if she is allowed to cheat, lie and skive by big brother then people are left with no where to put that resentment...she makes herself hated but she is at the same time made untouchable with the help of others and with the help of big brother
We are not allowed to reach her because she is being protected by enablers who make it possible for her to get away with it. If all the proof that she is greedy and lazy and selfish is not good enough then the only form of attack remaining is her weight because no lies, insults and cover ups can deny the fact that she def is fat....and a part of the reason for that is because she is bone idle and lazy and greedy
I dislike her because she is unkind to others and is being protected from any accountability for it but mostly I dislike her, and big brothers protection of her, for making me so angry and leaving me with no where to channel it
I have no sympathy for her and any over weight people will hopefully realise what this is about ....it's just a hook to try and reach her, it's not an attack on them.
If a gay housemate behaved so appallingly, yet was made untouchable, then insults about the fact that they are gay would become people's last resort....I am gay and I totally would understand what that is and I would not take it personally and I would not be offended.
Now we have the victim card and I think its all a bit too convenient ....we have been played .....or should I say goaded and provoked.
I dislike Gemma and dont want her to win for most off the reasons that you give, but cannot agree that she should be judged on her weight. It would be hypocritical of me anyway, as Im no skinny minny, but I dont blame anyone
for that. BB may be protecting her, but I think thats for reasons of financial gain. Which is something they do for one housemate each series,eg putting Perez in secret room when he threatened to leave.
Im also not sure about Gemmas future after she has left the house. Reality tv, made her, but it could also break her, and would mean that her awful behaviour may not go unpunished.
Deebo
27-01-2016, 08:56 PM
People attack Gemma because she talks to people on a level. I'm not sure which level.
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