I don't understand the extreme hate

[Meryl Streep]

for Tiffany.

I don't think she has done anything absolutely dreadful to...anyone in the house? So I don't understand why she is getting so much random hate (albeit, from the same users) over and over again.

Did I miss something? :conf:

[Pete.]

The extreme outpouring of love of our New York outweighs it though

[EspeonBB]

The female frontrunners of every series always have quite a vocal hate group (even Chloe BB16 had one when she's like, really inoffensive)

Most people love her though :love:

[ebandit]

..........i see no 'hate'...............criticism of how full of herself she is

....her duplicity......................double standards...............yes!

Mark L

[wendywillow]

for Tiffany.

I don't think she has done anything absolutely dreadful to...anyone in the house? So I don't understand why she is getting so much random hate (albeit, from the same users) over and over again.

Did I miss something? :conf:



oh don't worry....they'll be here soon to explain in detail.... I don't get the hate either but, shes black, American, female, sexual, for some reason thats the perfect storm.

[chuff me dizzy]

..........i see no 'hate'...............criticism of how full of herself she is

....her duplicity......................double standards...............yes!

Mark L

Add to that what a total let down she's been ,how easily she swapped New York for Barnsley and how easily she slipped into the roll of Gemmas bitch

[Marsh.]

Add to that what a total let down

Let down in what way? You've hated her since launch night. How can she be a let down?

[Crimson Dynamo]

people cannot understand how not everyone likes their kween shock

[Headie]

It's always the same people who hate on the same type of people.. you just learn to ignore their opinion as it reflects a minority tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

op

have you seen the real hate for steph just because she has fallen in love

or at Gemma just because she is fat


if you want a cause, have these 2 for free

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's always the same people who hate on the same type of people.. you just learn to ignore their opinion as it reflects a minority tbh



even by your standards that is pretty low

smh

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

It's always the same people who hate on the same type of people.. you just learn to ignore their opinion as it reflects a minority tbh

basically

[GiRTh]

It's always the same people who hate on the same type of people.. you just learn to ignore their opinion as it reflects a minority tbh:clap1:

[Marsh.]

It's always the same people who hate on the same type of people.. you just learn to ignore their opinion as it reflects a minority tbh

Not you bullying minorities. :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not you bullying minorities. :nono:

:joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

op

have you seen the real hate for steph just because she has fallen in love

or at Gemma just because she is fat


if you want a cause, have these 2 for free

:clap1:...... Or John because he speaks his mind ,Chris because he was nice ....the list is endless, but not all of them are throwing the victim card " I'm getting pushed out " Poor me ,get over yourself Barnsley !!!

[Calderyon]

I don´t really hate/dislike her (apart from her annoying laugh and voice and her mannerisms/personality), i just don´t understand the overbearing love fest over her, when she hasn´t really done much to deserve it. She is just default favorite to so many regardless of what she does/or not do. Even if she spent all her time sleeping, being in the bathroom doing her "business", eating, not talking or just sat in a chair, she would get the exact same amount of love. And it´s been like that even before she arrived in the house.

It´s just odd. So very, very odd.

But not uncommon. I have seen it before.

[Cherie]

I see more hate directed at other HMs, she has the biggest fan club on here so the majority love her :hee: me I can take her or leave her same as all of them in there

[chuff me dizzy]

I don´t really hate/dislike her (apart from her annoying laugh and voice and her mannerisms/personality), i just don´t understand the overbearing love fest over her, when she hasn´t really done much to deserve it. She is just default favorite to so many regardless of what she does. Even if she spent all her time sleeping, being in the bathroom, eating, not talking or just sat in a chair, she would get the exact same amount of love.

It´s just odd.

She was loved by the usuals BEFORE she even entered the house, and even though I know damn well they are now wondering why they supported her and must feel cheated ,they will never admit it ,they claimed she would wipe the floor with everyone ,she was the Big I Am ,and what has she done apart from run around after Gemma and trying to bed anyone with a pulse for camera time, hardly rivetting

[wendywillow]

I don´t really hate/dislike her (apart from her annoying laugh and voice and her mannerisms/personality), i just don´t understand the overbearing love fest over her, when she hasn´t really done much to deserve it. She is just default favorite to so many regardless of what she does. Even if she spent all her time sleeping, being in the bathroom, eating, not talking or just sat in a chair, she would get the exact same amount of love.

It´s just odd.

where is this? every other post is how awful she is. and he definitely got boos during the live show so... now scotty t on the other hand seems to be some sort of God (yet hasn't had a single interesting moment, aside from messing around with tiff)

[GiRTh]

where is this? every other post is how awful she is. and he definitely got boos during the live show so... now scotty t on the other hand seems to be some sort of God (yet hasn't had a single interesting moment, aside from messing around with tiff):clap1:

[Maru]

She has overwhelming self-love/confidence and sometimes that attracts a lot of hate because people want to take that down a notch. Gemma is at least funny about it. She's not even trying to be more than she is so slips under the radar more.

Gemma bores me with her constant meddling in other people's ****. Tiffany I can easily ignore.

[Calderyon]

where is this? every other post is how awful she is. and he definitely got boos during the live show so... now scotty t on the other hand seems to be some sort of God (yet hasn't had a single interesting moment, aside from messing around with tiff)

That´s just from some her very vocal haters, which she has much less, i admit.

But i have seen it here, and see it most of the time. Almost everything she does is praised regardless of what it is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That´s just from some her very vocal haters, which she has much less, i admit.

But i have seen it here, and see it most of the time. Almost everything she does is praised regardless of what it is.

Its this what I hate the most, its not support its just irrational fanboyism

like 1D fans

Its no surprise the age profile either :rolleyes:

[wendywillow]

She was loved by the usuals BEFORE she even entered the house, and even though I know damn well they are now wondering why they supported her and must feel cheated ,they will never admit it ,they claimed she would wipe the floor with everyone ,she was the Big I Am ,and what has she done apart from run around after Gemma and trying to bed anyone with a pulse for camera time, hardly rivetting


so if she changed course and started to cause fights and return to her NY self... would you join the Tiffany fan club?:unsure:

[Crimson Dynamo]

where is this? every other post is how awful she is. and he definitely got boos during the live show so... now scotty t on the other hand seems to be some sort of God (yet hasn't had a single interesting moment, aside from messing around with tiff)

agreed on Scotty, he has had a few lucid moments but 90-% of the time I can barely make out what he says

[Samm]

It's always the same people who hate on the same type of people.. you just learn to ignore their opinion as it reflects a minority tbh

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

the clap1 squad in da house

[wendywillow]

Its this what I hate the most, its not support its just irrational fanboyism

like 1D fans

Its no surprise the age profile either :rolleyes:


when its someone you don't like its irrational fanboyism. then again its possible people have different opinions than you. :shrug:

[VanessaFeltz.]

That´s just from some her very vocal haters, which she has much less, i admit.

But i have seen it here, and see it most of the time. Almost everything she does is praised regardless of what it is.

When you have a loyal fanbase like new york everything you do seem perfect to your fans. I think Katie Price benefited from same thing if she didnt have the fan base she had before cbb there was no way she could win because she was useless in the house.

sometimes i feel off with new york (crying when hms leave) but in the end for me i still love her because her qualities definitely over weights her flaws in my eyes. (Her flawless gifs will always slay my life)

[Crimson Dynamo]

when its someone you don't like its irrational fanboyism. then again its possible people have different opinions than you. :shrug:


there can be both

the irrational fanboyism 1D fanas everything she does is amazing, even wanting a Tazer and loving handguns is tiresome, adds nothing to the forum and is usually age led


its not hard to spot tbh

[GiRTh]

the clap1 squad in da house:joker:

I'm gonna clap1 every post from now on. :thumbs:

[chuff me dizzy]

When you have a loyal fanbase like new york everything you do seem perfect to your fans. I think Katie Price benefited from same thing if she didnt have the fan base she had before cbb there was no way she could win because she was useless in the house.

sometimes i feel off with new york (crying when hms leave) but in the end for me i still love her because her qualities definitely over weights her flaws in my eyes. (Her flawless gifs will always slay my life)

:laugh3:

[VanessaFeltz.]

:laugh3:

what is so funny i just stated my opinion? When you have a loyal fan base build up in years unless you do something majorly bad your fans will support you and this applies to EVERY fan base not just new york.

[Headie]

Not you bullying minorities. :nono:

Me self-hating?

[chuff me dizzy]

what is so funny i just stated my opinion? When you have a loyal fan base build up in years unless you do something majorly bad your fans will support you and this applies to EVERY fan base not just new york.

I find it quite sad really, I may change my :laugh3: for a :bawling:

[Jordan.]

It's always the same people who hate on the same type of people.. you just learn to ignore their opinion as it reflects a minority tbh

:clap1:

[GiRTh]

:clap1::clap1:

[wendywillow]

there can be both

the irrational fanboyism 1D fanas everything she does is amazing, even wanting a Tazer and loving handguns is tiresome, adds nothing to the forum and is usually age led


its not hard to spot tbh

the gun stuff was a bit odd, and shes not the sharpest tool in the shed (obviously) but me shes the most entertaining in a house with a few bores scotty, dani, the list goes on (I liked d guest but he exited stage left). there are some that support her coming in and those that hated her before the show started and will hate her regardless of what she does. I don't get the blind hate, I didn't like john p but I kind of like him now.

[susie q]

The extreme outpouring of love of our New York outweighs it though

I dont understand this. I dont hate her or any other housemate, to me shes a someone who I expected more from, ok shes had the occassional moment but thats all. Even Chris said on bbots that she was quiet most of the time, until she has a drink at night. For me she doesnt really stand out.

[VanessaFeltz.]

I find it quite sad really, I may change my :laugh3: for a :bawling:

You know what is more sad?

Your behaviour atm :whistle:

[joeysteele]

I actually like Tiffany when she is okay and calmer, however I hate people throwing themselves at others in the very sad and desperate way she did the other night.

Most of the time I like watching Tiffany but once she goes into that mode, I find her one massive turn off.

[GiRTh]

the gun stuff was a bit odd, and shes not the sharpest tool in the shed (obviously) but me shes the most entertaining in a house with a few bores scotty, dani, the list goes on (I liked d guest but he exited stage left). there are some that support her coming in and those that hated her before the show started and will hate her regardless of what she does. I don't get the blind hate, I didn't like john p but I kind of like him now.:clap1:

Agree withh this. I didnt like John a week and a half ago but he's grown on me.


Tiffany cant win. She gets quite extreme hate even though shes not kicked off as badly as others, is not the sh&t stirrer that Gemma is and genuinely seems to be trying to get on with all HMs. We now get the ridiculous argument that she's been a let down because she isnt loud enough. :bored:

[ebandit]

members knock steph for not really understanding love................but do

certain members here understand the concept of 'extreme hate?'

Mark L

[GiRTh]

members knock steph for not really understanding love................but do

certain members here understand the concept of 'extreme hate?'

Mark LMaybe 'extreme hate' is a bit too much but she does get a lot of hate for no real reason.

I do think it is hate though. I dont think there is anything she can do to win them over.:thumbs:

[ebandit]

maybe i'm being a 'little too grown up'.....seems like a little

dislike to me

Mark L

[wendywillow]

:clap1:

Agree withh this. I didnt like John a week and a half ago but he's grown on me.


Tiffany cant win. She gets quite extreme hate even though shes not kicked off as badly as others, is not the sh&t stirrer that Gemma is and genuinely seems to be trying to get on with all HMs. We now get the ridiculous argument that she's been a let down because she isnt loud enough. :bored:

exactly. its like the twilight zone. people who were screaming for her to get ejected for the david guest debacle are now claiming shes too quiet?? what are you gonna do :shrug:

[Jamie89]

There's a lot of irrational hate (or maybe "hate's" too strong, but it does seem irrational a lot of the time), like it's fine if people don't like her but I've seen some comments that are just gross and unnecessary, and don't even make sense. And I've noticed that a lot of jibes get thrown at the people supporting her, which I don't think happens as much with fans of other HM's from what I've noticed. I don't really get that either. Especially as someone who wasn't supporting her before she went in or even at the start of the show. Tiffany's reached a wide appeal so it isn't a 'type' of person that is supporting her like some have suggested. But anyway, I can understand why she might not be to some peoples tastes but I can't understand why she gets the level of hate she does on here.

[Calderyon]

The Tiffany i really disliked was the one was on FL1 and FL2. She was one of the biggest garbages ever on television. A truly dislikable being.

This version is much better than her, but still not for my liking, because she still has the same annoying voice, laugh and part of her personality.

It´s more the "too-much-love-for-one-person-without-much-of-a-reason" that somewhat irks me.

She has good qualities, but there is just not enough to get me to like her.

[chuff me dizzy]

You know what is more sad?

Your behaviour atm :whistle:

Please only comment on hm8s NOT members, its against forum rules :pat:

[chuff me dizzy]

The Tiffany i really disliked was the one was on FL1 and FL2. She was one of the biggest garbages ever on television.

This one is much better than her, but still not for my liking, because she still has the same voice, laugh and part of her personality.

It´s more the "too-much-love-for-one-person-without-much-reason" that somewhat irks me.

Me too ,and its all none deserving

[Crimson Dynamo]

members knock steph for not really understanding love................but do

certain members here understand the concept of 'extreme hate?'

Mark L

:joker:


nicely put mark

[wendywillow]

There's a lot of irrational hate (or maybe "hate's" too strong, but it does seem irrational a lot of the time), like it's fine if people don't like her but I've seen some comments that are just gross and unnecessary, and don't even make sense. And I've noticed that a lot of jibes get thrown at the people supporting her, which I don't think happens as much with fans of other HM's from what I've noticed. I don't really get that either. Especially as someone who wasn't supporting her before she went in or even at the start of the show. Tiffany's reached a wide appeal so it isn't a 'type' of person that is supporting her like some have suggested. But anyway, I can understand why she might not be to some peoples tastes but I can't understand why she gets the level of hate she does on here.

yep. its gotten ugly around here of late. not sure what brings it out. its just a dumb tv show, really the dumbest with grade z celebs doing silly stunts.

[Jordan.]

I remember people at the start saying she wouldn't last long and here she is as favourite to win. So I can understand people now feeling threatened and throwing excessive hate :hehe:

[VanessaFeltz.]

Please only comment on hm8s NOT members, its against forum rules :pat:

Then dont patronise other people for no reason when they are stating an opinion :smug:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Because she dared to lust after white meat.

[billy123]

Because she dared to lust after white meat.Why do you have to bring the colour of peoples skin into every post you make its disgraceful. Grow up.

[wendywillow]

Please only comment on hm8s NOT members, its against forum rules :pat:

....

[aj2463]

She's actually really nice, nicer than I expected actually. Though there are a few on here who always seem to hate/target the entertaining female American housemates, every year without fail. It's sad. I see daily posts just pointing out Tiffanys flaws. Get a grip and existence, jeez

[aj2463]

I remember people at the start saying she wouldn't last long and here she is as favourite to win. So I can understand people now feeling threatened and throwing excessive hate :hehe:

I'm glad She's still there and fave to win. Only one worth watching tbh.

[ThriceShy]

Racism.

[Ammi]

for Tiffany.

I don't think she has done anything absolutely dreadful to...anyone in the house? So I don't understand why she is getting so much random hate (albeit, from the same users) over and over again.

Did I miss something? :conf:

..I have to say that she's becoming one of my most favourite housemates of all time, she's a 'complete person' and complete housemate in things that I personally like to see, she's not boring/she provides drama but isn't spiteful or mean in her tantrums, she's caring and sweet, she's cheeky and flirty and has just been a total lovely surprise for me...I think that many people on the forum didn't know her before she went in, or hadn't seen her in a reality show, I should say...and maybe for some in seeing her, it's brought 'hate' or dislike but I would say that it's brought positive things and more fans than it has negative...so all in all, more love than hate....

[Amy Jade]

She was loved by the usuals BEFORE she even entered the house, and even though I know damn well they are now wondering why they supported her and must feel cheated ,they will never admit it ,they claimed she would wipe the floor with everyone ,she was the Big I Am ,and what has she done apart from run around after Gemma and trying to bed anyone with a pulse for camera time, hardly rivetting

She was loved by people because this is CELEBRITY Big Brother, they go into the show with a fan base...

[Amy Jade]

Then dont patronise other people for no reason when they are stating an opinion :smug:
:clap1:

[kirklancaster]

:joker:

I'm gonna clap1 every post from now on. :thumbs:

:laugh: You REALLY DO love LT don't you Girth? You would miss him so much if he wasn't here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i note the tide turning on pollard over on DS now :hehe:


bubble seems to have well and truly burst, who knows, maybe she will get nommed again and have a temper tantrum :hehe:

[kirklancaster]

The great Muhammad Ali spent months before the classic 1974 'Rumble In The Jungle' Heavyweight Title bout with the 'undefeated and unbeatable' Champion George Foreman - at the time THE most feared man on the planet - talking about how he would 'dance' all night and employ his 'float like a butterfly, sting like a bee' 'in, hit, and out' tactics, only to do the EXACT opposite and lay stationary on the ropes for huge parts of the fight, allowing the huge and much younger Foreman to flay away at Ai's arms and gloves until he tired himself out and Ali KO'd him to win back the title.

Ali's unexpected tactics that night in Zaire has passed into boxing folklore as 'The Rope-A-Dope', and Tiffany is 'Rope-A-Doping' all HER rivals for the 'Title' in that house.

Forget everything you thought you knew about her from her previous shows, and from the media columns - SHE IS THE ONCE AND FUTURE CHAMP, and her 'surprise' tactics and strategy are sheer brilliance.

She is OWNING the HM's AND BB by playing the most brilliant game.

YES - she is being fake in parts.
YES - she is being fawning in parts.
Yes - she is acting her black ass off.

But how briliantly successful have her tactics been?

She targeted the most dominant of the pack when they were all ranged against her; 'Queen' Gemma (not forgetting her pet pug Danniella 'No-Personality') and 'worked' her-- confusing her with niceness, OTT friendliness, and - yes - a huge dollop of fawning and obsequiousness, which all 'pulled the "You're Not Welcome" rug' from under the Fat One's 'stone-less shoe clad feet.

Once Tiff rendered Gemma (and her pug) impotent, the rest of the pack disintegrated.

KNOWING that fake drama and OTT hystrionics is what the CBB viewers want, Tiff invested in her share of false tears, fake hysterics and acted rants.

KNOWING that sex, illicit trysts, and scandalous conduct are what the CBB viewers want, Tiff 'came on' to married man Darren, then played the role of 'mega bitch' by 'tramping' it with Jeremy and Scotty 'T' - thereby 'giving' the viewers their scandal and drama, because both were already 'involved' with Stephanie and Megan respectively.

And YET - Tiffany has 'ticked ALL of the viewing publics boxes' WITHOUT causing any real offense by resorting to the nastiness of Piggy Gemma, the resentfulness of Puggy Danniella, or the stirring of John.

Tiffany is THE real queen of CBB which is why I supported her from the start, and why I backed her each way at 11/1 odds.

Love her or hate her - salute a REAL CBB Queen.

[reece(:]

She's raw and real and the haters are seething that she's not played into the stereotype

[Jamie89]

..I have to say that she's becoming one of my most favourite housemates of all time, she's a 'complete person' and complete housemate in things that I personally like to see, she's not boring/she provides drama but isn't spiteful or mean in her tantrums, she's caring and sweet, she's cheeky and flirty and has just been a total lovely surprise for me...I think that many people on the forum didn't know her before she went in, or hadn't seen her in a reality show, I should say...and maybe for some in seeing her, it's brought 'hate' or dislike but I would say that it's brought positive things and more fans than it has negative...so all in all, more love than hate....

Completely agree with this :love:

The great Muhammad Ali spent months before the classic 1974 'Rumble In The Jungle' Heavyweight Title bout with the 'undefeated and unbeatable' Champion George Foreman - at the time THE most feared man on the planet - talking about how he would 'dance' all night and employ his 'float like a butterfly, sting like a bee' 'in, hit, and out' tactics, only to do the EXACT opposite and lay stationary on the ropes for huge parts of the fight, allowing the huge and much younger Foreman to flay away at Ai's arms and gloves until he tired himself out and Ali KO'd him to win back the title.

Ali's unexpected tactics that night in Zaire has passed into boxing folklore as 'The Rope-A-Dope', and Tiffany is 'Rope-A-Doping' all HER rivals for the 'Title' in that house.

Forget everything you thought you knew about her from her previous shows, and from the media columns - SHE IS THE ONCE AND FUTURE CHAMP, and her 'surprise' tactics and strategy are sheer brilliance.

She is OWNING the HM's AND BB by playing the most brilliant game.

YES - she is being fake in parts.
YES - she is being fawning in parts.
Yes - she is acting her black ass off.

But how briliantly successful have her tactics been?

She targeted the most dominant of the pack when they were all ranged against her; 'Queen' Gemma (not forgetting her pet pug Danniella 'No-Personality') and 'worked' her-- confusing her with niceness, OTT friendliness, and - yes - a huge dollop of fawning and obsequiousness, which all 'pulled the "You're Not Welcome" rug' from under the Fat One's 'stone-less shoe clad feet.

Once Tiff rendered Gemma (and her pug) impotent, the rest of the pack disintegrated.

KNOWING that fake drama and OTT hystrionics is what the CBB viewers want, Tiff invested in her share of false tears, fake hysterics and acted rants.

KNOWING that sex, illicit trysts, and scandalous conduct are what the CBB viewers want, Tiff 'came on' to married man Darren, then played the role of 'mega bitch' by 'tramping' it with Jeremy and Scotty 'T' - thereby 'giving' the viewers their scandal and drama, because both were already 'involved' with Stephanie and Megan respectively.

And YET - Tiffany has 'ticked ALL of the viewing publics boxes' WITHOUT causing any real offense by resorting to the nastiness of Piggy Gemma, the resentfulness of Puggy Danniella, or the stirring of John.

Tiffany is THE real queen of CBB which is why I supported her from the start, and why I backed her each way at 11/1 odds.

Love her or hate her - salute a REAL CBB Queen.

Wow Kirk :love:

https://i.imgur.com/2PXcfoM.jpg?1

[Beso]

It's probably because she carries around so much hatred of her own

[ThriceShy]

People's princess, and queen of the british public's hearts, Tiffany has already won big brother. They may as well end it now. I suspect she will get more than 50% of the vote in the final. i.e. she will get more than the 4 runners up combined.

[chuff me dizzy]

Why do you have to bring the colour of peoples skin into every post you make its disgraceful. Grow up.

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

She's raw and real and the haters are seething that she's not played into the stereotype

:laugh2:

she IS a total walking stereotype


omg