Which series would have been better with a different voting format?

[Dominic]

So which VTE series would have worked better with VTS and which VTS series would have worked better with VTE?

BB14 would have probably worked somewhat better with VTS, as Dexter would have gone over Gina/Sallie and we would have gotten more of the Sallie Axl experience :flutter: Imagine Gina/Sallie in the safe house :clap1:

BB15 would've been slightly better, because Marlon would have went over Toya and we would have seen ha iconic side we saw in her final week for longer. I'm not sure if they would do the most nominations = evicted twist and who would have gone though.

CBB15 would have been much better as a chill, maybe humorous series rather than Perez/Hopkins constantly arguing.

[Firewire]

It's amazing the change of reality VTE/VTS has

[LukeB]

Dexter wouldn't have gone on a VTS

[Pete.]

BB7 would have been even more amazing on a VTS mainly because Nikki would have stayed throughout and maybe won

[Cal.]

Gina would have probably gone in the week 1 vote to save for BB14.

[Pete.]

Gina would have probably gone in the week 1 vote to save for BB14.
Still think Sal would have gone

[Dominic]

Gina/Sallie were in top 5 in most of favourite polls, Dexter was in like bottom three

[Cal.]

Still think Sal would have gone

Sallie was literally the focus of every highlight show she was in.

[Cal.]

I know out of the 3 which one I'd have voted to save watching it live.

[LukeB]

Gina would have probably gone in the week 1 vote to save for BB14.

with Sallie close by? Dexter would have top the VTS vote. I remember Dexter suddenly being popular after the Sallie Vs Dexter

[Cal.]

with Sallie close by? Dexter would have top the VTS vote. I remember Dexter suddenly being popular after the Sallie Vs Dexter

It would have gone

1. Dexter (most)
2. Sallie
3. Gina (least)

imo

[Dominic]

Sallie would have been saved first, she was the most loved, yet most hated in the first five'ish days from what I recall

[Cal.]

Sallie would have been saved first, she was the most loved, yet most hated in the first five'ish days from what I recall

Casual viewers/voters would have voted Dexter over Sallie I think

[Ross.]

BB16's eviction order, we wouldn't have lost goddesses like Adjoa/Amy and Sally/Jade so early </3

[Dominic]

Can we discuss Marlon going over Toya instead

[Cal.]

I'm obviously relieved Gina didn't go because she was the star and Sallie would have probably declined in popularity and gone a few weeks later anyway whereas Gina grew.

[Dominic]

BB16's eviction order, we wouldn't have lost goddesses like Adjoa/Amy and Sally/Jade so early </3

Marq would have been in the finale dew

[Cal.]

We got a vote to save in BB15 and the most entertaining housemate nominated still went so

[Dominic]

who cares about biannca pav and zoe anyways

[Cal.]

People like Steven would have lasted longer too probably

[Cal.]

(I know he only went like 3 weeks before the end but still)

[Pete.]

who cares about biannca pav and zoe anyways
Zoe :love:

[LukeB]

BB16's eviction order, we wouldn't have lost goddesses like Adjoa/Amy and Sally/Jade so early </3

Amy and Sally would still go on VTS on the 4in4out tbh. Danny and someone else would have stayed, maybe Chloe (same result really)

[Dominic]

OKAY BUT TOYa

[Pete.]

OKAY BUT TOYa
Quite

[Cal.]

Zoe was so average like she didn't do anything in her 2 weeks

[Cal.]

OKAY BUT TOYa

Yes Toya getting saved and lasting until Armageddon week would have been nice

[Dominic]

Whichever one of Biannca/Pav/Zoe stayed would have finished 6th in the finale anyways so idc.

[Firewire]

Conor would've went in a VTE against Shievonne

[Cal.]

Whichever one of Biannca/Pav/Zoe stayed would have finished 6th in the finale anyways so idc.

Should have been Biannca

[Dominic]

Conor would've went in a VTE against Shievonne

during a VTS head to head, they just vote to save the other one who they don't want evicted so I don't think that would've been the result

[Firewire]

during a VTS head to head, they just vote to save the other one who they don't want evicted so I don't think that would've been the result

lol that's true I forgot it was a head to head I couldn't remember if anyone else was up

[Cal.]

Yeah I think Shievonne still would have gone

[Dominic]

I was thinking of BB13 bc of Conor going, but VTE the whole series would have resulted in Lydia going week 1 and Deana going before the finale </3

[Cal.]

Mess Toya got evicted so early I always think of her as being the week 4/5 boot it felt like she was there for ages

[MB.]

a) Dexter would have gone in a VTS
b) Danny and Harriet would have stayed had #4in4out been VTS - just as well that it wasn't
c) Shievonne would still have gone under VTE, given that head-to-heads under either format are pretty much the same

[LukeB]

a) Dexter would have gone in a VTS


No he wouldn't, Dexter would have topped the vote, because he got popular that week and he would have got the anti Sallie votes.

[MB.]

He wasn't popular when he was up - the show was revolving around Sallie and Gina at that point, he was irrelevant

[Headie]

I think all the C4 series would've been improved with VTS except the head-to-head evictions since they wouldn't have made a difference.

BB11 could've been a top tier series with VTS. Same goes for BB15.

I know lots of people prefer VTE and say "oh but VTE gave us the best series ever" etc. but I counter-act that by saying

A) C4 casting was much better than C5 casting so it meant we could afford to lose some good characters to VTE and still have a good series
B) VTS hasn't been given a long enough trial with the civillian series. We had one awful season and one amazing season. It really should be, at the very east, trialled again
C) Yes VTE can get rid of the "nasty" people but it can also get rid of the "entertaining people" as well. I'd rather watch a series where I love a few of the housemates left and hate a few of the housemates left rather than a series where I feel indifferent towards/have no opinion on any of the people remaining.

[Dominic]

bbspy.co.uk

Week 1: Who's your favourite housemate?

Sallie 20.9%
Sam 15.8%
Wolfy 11.4%
Sophie 10.6%
Dan 9.6%
Jack and Joe 7.4%
Hazel 5.5%
Jackie 3.4%
Gina 3.2%
Michael 3.1%
Daley 2.9%
Dexter 1.9%
Callum 1.8%
Charlie 1.4%
Jemima 1.1%

622 Votes

Read more: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb14/popularity-poll/week-1#ixzz2WLEQdzsX


Big Brother 2013: Who is your favourite?

Sam Evans (16%, 137 Votes)
Sallie Axl (12%, 105 Votes)
Wolfy Millington (12%, 101 Votes)
Jack and Joe (10%, 88 Votes)
Sophie Lawrence (9%, 81 Votes)
Dan Neal (8%, 74 Votes)
Hazel O’Sullivan (8%, 73 Votes)
Daley Ojuederie (8%, 67 Votes)
Michael Dylan (5%, 48 Votes)
Jackie Travers (3%, 25 Votes)
Dexter Koh (2%, 21 Votes)
Callum Knell (2%, 16 Votes)
Gina Rio (2%, 15 Votes)
Charlie Travers (2%, 13 Votes)
Jemima Slade (2%, 12 Votes)

Total Voters: 876

Read more: http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/151013-poll-big-brother-2013-housemates-who-is-your-early-favourite.html#ixzz2WLG2675b

DS:

Week 1: Who is your favourite housemate?

Sallie 95 17.69%
Sophie 55 10.24%
Sam 51 9.50%
Dexter 50 9.31%
Wolfy 50 9.31%
Hazel 49 9.12%
Daniel 38 7.08%
Daley 36 6.70%
Jack & Joe 32 5.96%
Gina 20 3.72%
Michael 18 3.35%
Jackie 17 3.17%
Jemima 13 2.42%
Charlie 7 1.30%
Callum 6 1.12%

Voters: 537

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1837061

Sallie was an early fave so she would have topped it at first, Dexter would have only MAYBE survived in the bottom two

[MB.]

Also:

TIBB

Who to Go?

Dexter = 45.7%
Sallie = 27.3%
Gina = 27.1%

BBTellyMix

Who to Go?

Dexter = 37%
Gina = 32%
Sallie = 31%

BBSpy

Who to Go?

Dexter = 50%
Gina = 28%
Sallie = 22%

[LukeB]

He wasn't popular when he was up - the show was revolving around Sallie and Gina at that point, he was irrelevant

So, anti votes do come into play most times, Sallie Vs Dexter would have saw Dexter get votes. You do forget Sallie had a lot of haters

[Cal.]

Sallie was an early fave so she would have topped it at first, Dexter would have only MAYBE survived in the bottom two

Forums aren't really accurate tho. TiBB's fave housemate came 4th on Friday!

[LukeB]

Also:

TIBB

Who to Go?

Dexter = 45.7%
Sallie = 27.3%
Gina = 27.1%

BBTellyMix

Who to Go?

Dexter = 37%
Gina = 32%
Sallie = 31%

BBSpy

Who to Go?

Dexter = 50%
Gina = 28%
Sallie = 22%

I don;t think any poll had Sam to win :think:

[Headie]

Conor would've went in a VTE against Shievonne

I actually don't think he would've tbh. Shievonne had one of the worst edits I've ever seen in her final week and Conor wasn't getting much airtime. Plus she is an "angry black woman" which is a BB sin. And Conor had all his teen girl fanbase too.

Head-to-head VTS evictions are basically reverse VTE anyway

[LukeB]

Forums aren't really accurate tho. TiBB's fave housemate came 4th on Friday!

exactly.

[Firewire]

I actually don't think he would've tbh. Shievonne had one of the worst edits I've ever seen in her final week and Conor wasn't getting much airtime. Plus she is an "angry black woman" which is a BB sin. And Conor had all his teen girl fanbase too.

Head-to-head VTS evictions are basically reverse VTE anyway

I forgot it was head to head

Shievonne's edit was awful

[Dominic]

I don;t think any poll had Sam to win :think:

the polls you posted are who to evict tho

[Dominic]

Forums aren't really accurate tho. TiBB's fave housemate came 4th on Friday!

I was talking about tellymix and bbspy. Plus Tiff is adored online and tons of people I know watched CBB for the first time for her

[MB.]

I don;t think any poll had Sam to win :think:

Because that didn't gain traction until the last few weeks

[LukeB]

the polls you posted are who to evict tho

Dexter had the least amount of votes to evict so those polls are not accurate

[Dominic]

C) Yes VTE can get rid of the "nasty" people but it can also get rid of the "entertaining people" as well. I'd rather watch a series where I love a few of the housemates left and hate a few of the housemates left rather than a series where I feel indifferent towards/have no opinion on any of the people remaining.

Have to say I agree with this tbh. The only flaws about VTS were keeping Conor, Perez and Hopkins. But other than that I always enjoyed VTS. Obviously I didn't like results such as Frenchy going but it was obvious.

[Macie Lightfoot]

during a VTS head to head, they just vote to save the other one who they don't want evicted so I don't think that would've been the result

true but it would've been somewhat closer I think bc I remember quite a few threads like "well I hate Conor but I just can't bring myself to save Shievonne *doesnt vote*"

[Dominic]

true but it would've been somewhat closer I think bc I remember quite a few threads like "well I hate Conor but I just can't bring myself to save Shievonne *doesnt vote*"

Probably would have been 60-40 or something.

[Daniel-X]

I think if #4in4out would've been VTS we'd have seen Sarah and Harriet/Danny stay. Chloe, Kieran and Amy and Sally would have all gone for sure I think.

Also I think had BB14 been VTE, Sallie would've stayed in the first week. Which would've been amazing and made BB14 even better than it already is.

[LukeB]

^ I do feel Sarah would have gone, Chloe and Harriet seemed more popular with Danny

[Jason.]

true but it would've been somewhat closer I think bc I remember quite a few threads like "well I hate Conor but I just can't bring myself to save Shievonne *doesnt vote*"

mte

[Jason.]

Nah, I think Sarah would've benefited more in a VTS than Harriet. Sarah was more popular. I remember Harriet's popularity plummeting quite quickly after the first week and she went from being Top 3 in popularity polls to bottom two within the space of a week and she lost quite a lot of support.

[Dominic]

Sarah and Chloe/Danny would have probably stayed in 4in4out. Still **** results imo.

If it was VTS and the safe HM's remained safe, and the nommed ones remained nominated Jade and Eileen/one of the guys would have stayed, resulting in 3 dullards going

[Cal.]

Nah, I think Sarah would've benefited more in a VTS than Harriet. Sarah was more popular. I remember Harriet's popularity plummeting quite quickly after the first week and she went from being Top 3 in popularity polls to bottom two within the space of a week and she lost quite a lot of support.

I agree. I think it would have gone-

1. Danny (most to save)
2. Sarah
3. Chloe
4. Harriet
5. Amy and Sally
6. Kieran

[VanessaFeltz.]

Ultimate Big Brother..

Coolio, Dullrika, Nick, Michelle and probs then John Mc would've gone then we would have Vanessa Makosi and Nadia in finals

[Oaker]

Chloe/Danny staying was a much better result than Sarah/Danny staying so VTE worked great for 4in4out :hee:

[Brekkie]

All C5 series with any kind of regular nomination format would have been spectacularly improved.

Big Brother works because even producers didn't know from week to week how things would pan out, but blatantly fixing the nomination process every single week to protect your favourites, and then editing the show around the same few HMs for practically the entire series, just makes it boring and gives you a series where people don't care about evictions (because the evictees have been practically edited out of the show) and get bored of the highlights as they focus on the same people and storylines day after day, week after week. In addition being nominated means very little when producers have decided tp put up the majority of the house based on their rules for the week - the HMs nominated for eviction should be in the minority!


The last eviction of CBB highlighted the point - for the first time since I think 2014 they used the traditional two with the most votes is up for eviction (although with the twist of an added "killer nomination") and it resulted in a big head to head between three dominant characters. That made the eviction interesting, unlike those where there were six up - or where the likely evictees who should have been up had been protected by producer intervention.