Church of England Troll Pro Dawkins

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Church of England defends prayer tweet for Richard Dawkins after stroke


Twitter users accuse church of ‘trolling’ the famous atheist, but it insists it was wholly genuine in its concern for Dawkins’ health

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The Church’s post was retweeted more than 1000 times, with many people speculating that the concern was less than sincere.

Some commenters accused the Church of “trolling” Dawkins and suggested praying for someone who was not religious was disrespectful.

(he is ok and will make a full recovery)


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[Marsh.]

May God bless him in this difficult time. :love:

[Lee.]

Don't think it's disrespectful at all! When Samuel was ill quite a few folk asked if I would mind prayers being said for him during church services.. Although I'm not a believer, I was grateful that they would think of doing it at all .

[Crimson Dynamo]

May God bless him in this difficult time. :love:

which one?

:suspect:

[Marsh.]

which one?

:suspect:

Mine! :fist:

[Ammi]

..it's just wishing positive thoughts really...

[Kizzy]

Saw this yesterday, on the surface it seems reasonable but is it usual? Do the CofE as a collective usually tweet these kind of messages, if not I can see why it would be seen as insincere.

[Crimson Dynamo]

well I hope David Bowie got prayers and Lemmy

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mine! :fist:

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[joeysteele]

Don't think it's disrespectful at all! When Samuel was ill quite a few folk asked if I would mind prayers being said for him during church services.. Although I'm not a believer, I was grateful that they would think of doing it at all .

A really good statement, by the way great to have you back on here Lee.

[Lee.]

Thank you Joey :)

[Kazanne]

I'm sure some people just want something to moan about,i see no harm in that, nice they even thought of him

[Niamh.]

Oh he had a stroke? I hadn't heard, hope he makes a full recovery

[bots]

I see nothing wrong with it at all :shrug:

[user104658]

Agree with the Kizzmeister - all you have to do is see whether or not they do this for a lot of celebrities. If it's pretty common for them to tweet "pray for..." messages when someone in the public eye is unwell, then I'd be inclined to accept that it's genuine well wishing.

If they DON'T do it very often and have specifically done it for Mr Dawkins... Then it seems a little bit suspect, doesn't it.

Note: I personally am not going to trawl through the CofE's twitter to find out but would be interested in the results if someone else wants to...

[Kizzy]

Agree with the Kizzmeister - all you have to do is see whether or not they do this for a lot of celebrities. If it's pretty common for them to tweet "pray for..." messages when someone in the public eye is unwell, then I'd be inclined to accept that it's genuine well wishing.

If they DON'T do it very often and have specifically done it for Mr Dawkins... Then it seems a little bit suspect, doesn't it.

Note: I personally am not going to trawl through the CofE's twitter to find out but would be interested in the results if someone else wants to...

Go on, you know you want to you cynical heathen!
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[user104658]

Go on, you know you want to you cynical heathen!
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I just can't. My dislike of religion actually pales in comparison to my hatred of Twitter :joker:

[DemolitionRed]

I just can't. My dislike of religion actually pales in comparison to my hatred of Twitter :joker:

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[Crimson Dynamo]

The story is about twitter


Now if a tweet has perhaps say 20 negative replies a poorly paid 20 something tabloid journo can run the headline

xxxx causes outrage

or xxxx causes twitter storm


when really its just 20 people talking



"who was outraged and who are they" seems to be the easiest way to cut to the actual

[Kizzy]

The story is about twitter


Now if a tweet has perhaps say 20 negative replies a poorly paid 20 something tabloid journo can run the headline

xxxx causes outrage

or xxxx causes twitter storm


when really its just 20 people talking



"who was outraged and who are they" seems to be the easiest way to cut to the actual

Are you arguing against your own point?...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are you arguing against your own point?...
no

i did not proffer an opinion in the op, merely asked the question:smug:

[Niamh.]

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Church of England defends prayer tweet for Richard Dawkins after stroke


Twitter users accuse church of ‘trolling’ the famous atheist, but it insists it was wholly genuine in its concern for Dawkins’ health

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7367431.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Church-of-Englands-tweet-wishing-Richard-Dawkins-well.jpg

The Church’s post was retweeted more than 1000 times, with many people speculating that the concern was less than sincere.

Some commenters accused the Church of “trolling” Dawkins and suggested praying for someone who was not religious was disrespectful.

(he is ok and will make a full recovery)


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Because of the retweeted prayer? :fan:

[Livia]

Don't think it's disrespectful at all! When Samuel was ill quite a few folk asked if I would mind prayers being said for him during church services.. Although I'm not a believer, I was grateful that they would think of doing it at all .

This post says it all.

[Beso]

Bloody daft.

Pray in private, gods no got the internet ya stupid arseholes.

[DemolitionRed]

Bloody daft.

Pray in private, gods no got the internet ya stupid arseholes.

And you know this?

[kirklancaster]

And you know this?

:laugh::laugh::laugh: Good question.

[Beso]

And you know this?

There is no god so the chances are there is no internet either.

[Kizzy]

I believe praying only works if you don't tell people you're doing it, like when you blow candles out on a birthday cake, if you let it slip it won't come true.
Platitudes via social media...yeah, that means loads, Anglicans shmanglicans :/

[Marsh.]

Bloody daft.

Pray in private, gods no got the internet ya stupid arseholes.

You do know that tweet wasn't a prayer in and of itself? :smug:

The best wishes were meant for Dawkins and his close ones. Not really going to reach them if they don't put it out there. :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

but did david bowie get a prayer?

[Marsh.]

but did david bowie get a prayer?

I don't know. The archbishop hasn't responded to my telegram as of yet.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't know. The archbishop hasn't responded to my telegram as of yet.

please alert my secretary when he does

[Marsh.]

please alert my secretary when he does

Kizzy has blocked any and all communications from myself. :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kizzy has blocked any and all communications from myself. :nono:

i cant untie her now ffs

[Marsh.]

:joker:

[Kizzy]

I've put the mother ******ing lotion in the mother ******ing basket!

[JoshBB]

The church offers a sympathetic approach to a man who has always been nothing but nasty and hateful towards them, and they are the bad ones?? There's a lot wrong in the churches right now (and other religious places for that matter), but this is certainly not included in that.

Any excuse to bash religious people..

[JoshBB]

There is no god so the chances are there is no internet either.

That's quite a bold statement to make, proof?

[MB.]

I think you'll find I do have the internet :nono:

[Beso]

That's quite a bold statement to make, proof?

look in the mirror.

[JoshBB]

look in the mirror.

I can look in the mirror but that won't necessarily disprove the existence of God.

[jennyjuniper]

I see nothing wrong with it at all. It wasn't as if they were forcing the guy into arttending a church service. The idiots who moan about this and call prayer disrespectful have too much time on their hands and not enough to occupy what little brain they have,.

[Ammi]

but did david bowie get a prayer?

..I'm not sure I get an analogy there, the tweet seemed to be a wishing well of, of Dawkins with his stroke but you wouldn't give any well wishes to someone who is dead..I guess you could say..(not you specifically..)...does the CoE do that with everyone, like did they do it with Michael Schumacher for instance, would be a better likening to, for me..?..well obviously we don't know for sure/they may have done but with Dawkins specifically...I personally would say, if it has only been him as a 'singling out', if you like...then it would be more of a well wish/gesture of a completely opposing view to religion, as a putting aside and perspective etc../whatever our beliefs, we are all as one...I guess an analogy I would use there as well would be with things that touch our lives personally/very sad things that have happened to forum members and whether 'friends' or 'enemies' as in completely opposing thoughts and those old ding dongs on the forum, it's all put aside when something awful happens...'we don't agree/we completely disagree but that's not a personal thing and I wish you well'....


..yeah we could analyse/scrutinise/look for 'intent' etc, in the tweet, we can do that...but if we do that, then there's no point in moaning about a rubbish/negative world that we live in because we're just being a part of that negativity/cynicism...or we can just look at it as a positive and well meaning gesture/nothing more, nothing less....

[kirklancaster]

He is a non-believer and is ill. Therefore he has no one to pray to. So what is so wrong with people of a charitable and caring disposition - who believe in 'Love Thine Enemy' praying ON HIS BEHALF to a God who they believe in and he does not?

Perhaps Dorkins needs a little help if his prayers to Darwin and 'Science' ain't working.

I regularly include L.T. in my prayers.:hehe:

[Beso]

I can look in the mirror but that won't necessarily disprove the existence of God.

it will prove he takes the occasional holiday, at the very least.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i am pretty sure Dawkins recovery is due 100% to science rather than muttering under your breath

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[Kizzy]

..I'm not sure I get an analogy there, the tweet seemed to be a wishing well of, of Dawkins with his stroke but you wouldn't give any well wishes to someone who is dead..I guess you could say..(not you specifically..)...does the CoE do that with everyone, like did they do it with Michael Schumacher for instance, would be a better likening to, for me..?..well obviously we don't know for sure/they may have done but with Dawkins specifically...I personally would say, if it has only been him as a 'singling out', if you like...then it would be more of a well wish/gesture of a completely opposing view to religion, as a putting aside and perspective etc../whatever our beliefs, we are all as one...I guess an analogy I would use there as well would be with things that touch our lives personally/very sad things that have happened to forum members and whether 'friends' or 'enemies' as in completely opposing thoughts and those old ding dongs on the forum, it's all put aside when something awful happens...'we don't agree/we completely disagree but that's not a personal thing and I wish you well'....


..yeah we could analyse/scrutinise/look for 'intent' etc, in the tweet, we can do that...but if we do that, then there's no point in moaning about a rubbish/negative world that we live in because we're just being a part of that negativity/cynicism...or we can just look at it as a positive and well meaning gesture/nothing more, nothing less....

Going to have to call that out. In my experience that hasn't happened.
Won't divulge on here and risk derailing the thread but I'll explain if you like via PM.
Is cynicism negative, always? I don't feel it is. The best the CofE get from me is the benefit of the doubt.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, keep the bitching to PM.

[Kizzy]

Yeah, keep the bitching to PM.

Or twitter like the Anglicans?

[Marsh.]

Or twitter like the Anglicans?

The Anglucabs tweet about tibb members?

I'll alert the mods.

[Kizzy]

The Anglucabs tweet about tibb members?

I'll alert the mods.

Don't! They might get the wrong end of the stick and accuse you of baiting :worry: