Eurovision: You Decide Live Discussion Thread BBC4 7:30pm 26/2/16

[Ross.]

My 2nd faves :clap1:

Bianca was robbed though! </3

[Headie]

Can we send Leona next year tbh

[Denver]

This was our best chance of winning

[zakman440]

Pleased for Joe & Jake - they'll do well :clap1:

[T*]

We've flopped

[Headie]

Told y'all you should've voted for Bianca :fist: She was trending on Twitter as well.

I'm glad it's another song that won which I like otherwise I would've been bitter as hell :laugh:

[Babayaro.]

Great choice. What a song

[_Tom_]

No shocker the UK chose the 'cute' guys over the best song..

[Ross.]

They need better staging tho

[Headie]

No shocker the UK chose the 'cute' guys over the best song..

Tbf their song is good and current!

Think the pimp slot plus their looks helped tho!

[T*]

faux Coldplay ****e

[Denver]

I think Thomas needs a Horlicks and early night

[Babayaro.]

faux Coldplay ****e

Are you ok

[Shaun]

As if any of the others were better elohel :hee:

[Headie]

I can't wait for us to lose

Right side of the scoreboard it is

We've flopped

faux Coldplay ****e

http://38.media.tumblr.com/fea44067bd56de4fd4baafd165f048e5/tumblr_n9izgzC9JE1rtta3uo1_250.gif

[Black Dagger]

Jake and Joe are a perfectly acceptable winner and Darline would probably have flopped as well.

[Headie]

Tbh my rankings of tonght's performances:

1. Bianca
2. Joe & Jake
3. Darline
4. Karl
5. Dulcima
6. Matthew

[EspeonBB]

They were the second best entry for me so I'm fine with them winning :clap1:

they will still flop in Stockholm though

[Headie]

Mess @ everyone begging for a NF for years and then everyone complaining about the winner after it's over. The BBC will end up scrapping it again if people keep complaining smh

[T*]

I just really don't think this'll do well
Bianca and Darline were my top 2

[T*]

Mess @ everyone begging for a NF for years and then everyone complaining about the winner after it's over. The BBC will end up scrapping it again if people keep complaining smh


no because the BBC would actually have to listen to viewer feedback to do that

[T*]

It was my #3
I just feel meh about it

May as well see how it does

[_Tom_]

We're sending a song to Europe saying "we're in this together" whilst there's an EU exit campaign going on :unsure:

[Babayaro.]

I wonder how Tom feels about tonight's choice

[Headie]

Nnn all the foreigners in the YT comments are saying we should've chose Bianca

Hopefully they can make the Top 20, I'll be happy with that :laugh:

[T*]

I wonder how Tom feels about tonight's choice


He just said, look!

[_Tom_]

:suspect:

[T*]

*goes back to supporting Spain, Italy and Ukraine*

[Black Dagger]

Not here for you attacking those poor boys but enjoying that noise from Ukraine.

[Braden]

Have to catch-up with this on iPlayer :(

[Mystic Mock]

Absolutely appalling choice, again teenage girls voting with their eyes instead of their ears what an absolute joke.

It either should've been Bianca due to being the most confident and delivering the best vocal on the night, or Dulcima for having the most interesting sound and for being the most fun.

Never mind there's always next year for the UK to get it right.

[Braden]

Darline's song was cute but they were so out of tune :(

[Black Dagger]

Hardly just teenage girls liking it when Drew and Shaun were enjoying it on Skype and I voted for it.

[Mystic Mock]

Hardly just teenage girls liking it when Drew and Shaun were enjoying it on Skype and I voted for it.

Drew always goes for feminine tastes, Shaun I can never explain, and you LucasMichael are like Drew which there's nothing wrong in that.

Most of their votes will have come from teenage girls who wanted to **** them on The Voice, to deny that is to deny that acts have main demographics that vote for them.

[Mystic Mock]

Darline's song was cute but they were so out of tune :(

That could've been fixed with some experience behind them, they just came on too soon imo.

[Braden]

Snooze @ Karl.

Disappointing considering he was my favourite beforehand.

[Babayaro.]

I voted for them too, Mock :shrug:

They are a perfectly acceptable choice to represent the UK

[Babayaro.]

Also, lol @ the thought of teenage girls watching BBC4

[Ross.]

Drew always goes for feminine tastes, Shaun I can never explain, and you LucasMichael are like Drew which there's nothing wrong in that.

Most of their votes will have come from teenage girls who wanted to **** them on The Voice, to deny that is to deny that acts have main demographics that vote for them.

This post :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I voted for them too, Mock :shrug:

They are a perfectly acceptable choice to represent the UK

Just ask most males on TIBB, DS, Youtube, Facebook etc did they vote for them, most of them will say no because they was a poor man's 1D.

And Europe won't give a **** about them because there'll be more fun teeny bopper songs that will get more votes than ours, and they won't even know them very well at all so there won't be the same connection there with them in Mainland Europe as there is for them in this country by mostly teenage girls.

[Braden]

That could've been fixed with some experience behind them, they just came on too soon imo.

Maybe so, Mock. I don't think their voices worked well together. Carrie may have had a point.

[Braden]

Bianca was pretty good. Don't know if J&J will surpass her performance.

alol @ Mel "Katrina sounding a little bit like Davros at the moment" :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

This post :joker:

You seriously think that the male demographic will like a 1D clone? I'm not talking about individuals but most of the male demographic will have voted for Bianca and Darline is my guess, with some finding Dulcima fun maybe.

That's all I'm saying yet like with Bieber some people think that other demographics contribute to these teeny bopper acts success when they really don't, I've liked some teeny bopper acts myself like Eric Saade and Five, but I know that most of the male population don't/didn't like them.

I honestly don't get the point of denying facts just because someone might've individually broke the mold?

[T*]

Mock it wasn't the teenage girl vote
They both look like ****ing squashed oranges

[Mystic Mock]

Maybe so, Mock. I don't think their voices worked well together. Carrie may have had a point.

Their voices definitely sounded wrong on the night for definite.

Hopefully they'll learn from this experience and pick themselves back up from this mess though.

[T*]

Can't @ calling people feminine for liking a song though idgi
what did you expect
it's eurovision

[Babayaro.]

Just ask most males on TIBB, DS, Youtube, Facebook etc did they vote for them, most of them will say no because they was a poor man's 1D.

And Europe won't give a **** about them because there'll be more fun teeny bopper songs that will get more votes than ours, and they won't even know them very well at all so there won't be the same connection there with them in Mainland Europe as there is for them in this country by mostly teenage girls.
But how do you know they didn't vote for them? Idg the 1D comparison, it seems like nowadays if there is more than 1 boy and relatively good looking then they automatically become 1D lol

Obviously they wont be well known, just like nearly every Eurovision winner :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Mock it wasn't the teenage girl vote
They both look like ****ing squashed oranges

Again that's your individual opinion though.

Some people will find them attractive and sadly have voted purely off that.:bawling:

[T*]

Maybe so, Mock. I don't think their voices worked well together. Carrie may have had a point.

It was probably the audio mixers fault, in the studio version, the brunette's voice is softer and lower volume than the blondes voice and it's seemingly in the background
Not surprised after the whole Katrina thing though

[Morgan.]

For me they were the right singers, with Bianca close behind. The rest were awful imo

[Mystic Mock]

Can't @ calling people feminine for liking a song though idgi
what did you expect
it's eurovision

It's the best way to describe something that's feminine even by singing show standards.:laugh:

[Braden]

Joe and Jake were fun. I'm glad they're representing us.

[Morgan.]

The sound guy got it wrong I think, some of those would have been good if the sound guy was.

[Mystic Mock]

But how do you know they didn't vote for them? Idg the 1D comparison, it seems like nowadays if there is more than 1 boy and relatively good looking then they automatically become 1D lol

Obviously they wont be well known, just like nearly every Eurovision winner :laugh:

This part is wrong, a lot of the winners of Eurovision are well known around Europe, the UK might not give their Music a chance but acts like Mans Zelmerlow and Conchita are well known around Europe well before their Eurovision stints.

And on the part above are you being serious? I've already checked DS and it's got a bad response by the male and female members, I've read some of the comments on Youtube, then there's me, Tom, and my Brother who also didn't like them, then I bet if I got my Dad to check them out he wouldn't like them knowing his tastes in Music. (btw he hates Eurovision so wouldn't check it out)

I'm not saying that individual male viewers can't and won't like the song, I'm saying that overall the male viewers that do like the song would not mount to them winning and that's just the truth that out of tune 1D clones with a generic Pop track are not going to win over most male viewers so it only leaves teenage girls and potentially housewives that have potentially given them the win.

[Braden]

Katrina singing Love Shine a Light :love:

What a treat.

[Firewire]

Mock, just shut up

[Ross.]

oh

[Mystic Mock]

Mock, just shut up

No, how about you shut up if you don't want to read other peoples opinions? Improve your attitude as I'm not gonna shut up just because I have a different opinion to you.

And would you tell one of your friends on here to shut up? Or a Mod out of interest? No I bet not so how about next time debate me on the issue at hand or get off the Forum until you've matured.

I remember you trolling me before saying that I looked like a paedophile too so you've already crossed a line with me once.

[T*]

I am so ****ing excited to see if Poland picks Margaret

[T*]

oop wrong thread

[Braden]

I really enjoyed the show tonight.

Mel was a great host, I found her to be really funny. Great guest judges, nice winner, etc.

[Firewire]

No, how about you shut up if you don't want to read other peoples opinions? Improve your attitude as I'm not gonna shut up just because I have a different opinion to you.

And would you tell one of your friends on here to shut up? Or a Mod out of interest? No I bet not so how about next time debate me on the issue at hand or get off the Forum until you've matured.

I remember you trolling me before saying that I looked like a paedophile too so you've already crossed a line with me once.

I absolutely did not say this

[Headie]

https://uploadir.com/u/a9swsu2x

[Crimson Dynamo]

Katrina singing Love Shine a Light :love:

What a treat.

It was

[Crimson Dynamo]

Amazing

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am happy about our choice

[Mystic Mock]

Damon Lembury summed it up perfectly on DS.

"And BOOM. This is why national selection and 'the people should choose' is completely stupid. Surprise surprise the young fit lads win no matter how mediocre the song was. You can't trust the British public to vote for talent when they're shallow as hell and they have a good looking male under 30 to vote for. ABSOLUTELY the wrong choice."

[Babayaro.]

Why are people so outraged by this? It's not like any of the others would win it

[Black Dagger]

Damon can **** off.

[Denver]

You would think people would be happen we are sending a song capable of being on the left hand side for the first time in 5 years

[Mystic Mock]

Why are people so outraged by this? It's not like any of the others would win it

It's the fact that Europe would've took better to some of the others.

[Babayaro.]

Where did Blue finish? 12th?

[Mystic Mock]

You would think people would be happen we are sending a song capable of being on the left hand side for the first time in 5 years

It really won't, we'll be lucky to beat France this year.

[Babayaro.]

It's the fact that Europe would've took better to some of the others.

Only time will tell, Mock :hee:

[Denver]

Where did Blue finish? 12th?

11th

[Mystic Mock]

Where did Blue finish? 12th?

12th or 11th, I'm not quite sure.

[Denver]

It really won't, we'll be lucky to beat France this year.

Well if you see some of the garbage other countries have sent then you will understand

[Mystic Mock]

Only time will tell, Mock :hee:

Tbf you're right on that.

The only way we'll do alright though is if other countries have not picked teeny bopper acts that will get a bigger share of the vote, otherwise the UK is ****ed and tbh I can understand if we do bad this year, and I mean genuinely so this time, because even last year I thought we got the rough end of the stick, but this is Engelbert Humperdick style of terrible.

[Mystic Mock]

Well if you see some of the garbage other countries have sent then you will understand

The UK are hated on Eurovision, they think that we don't take the competition seriously.

Do you honestly take Joe & Jake seriously? The name itself sounds like a joke act.

[Babayaro.]

Two Direction would've made more sense, don't you think

[Denver]

The UK are hated on Eurovision, they think that we don't take the competition seriously.

Do you honestly take Joe & Jake seriously? The name itself sounds like a joke act.

Well it's the British public that doesn't take it seriously so they are to blame

[Ross.]

why do y'all care so much

it's Eurovision

[Mystic Mock]

Well it's the British public that doesn't take it seriously so they are to blame

I agree with you, but people then wonder why we do **** on Eurovision and that's why, again the UK's shallowness, and arrogance to think that we should just finish high up just because it's the UK is gonna kill us again.

And Babayaro that's not a bad name for them actually, at least it would be funny.

[Mystic Mock]

why do y'all care so much

it's Eurovision

Do you really wanna hear people moan about us doing **** again like we get every year in this country? It's never that we've put out someone **** or that acts like Blue and Molly choked on the night, it's that Europe hates us and that we're being underscored allegedly.

[Mokka]

Which one is Joe, and which one is Jake...

The one with the guitar could sing...the other one was pitchy and needs some vocal coaching before you send them to Sweden..

Should just send back Katrina and the Wave...the only performance of the night that grabbed me

[Crimson Dynamo]

Which one is Joe, and which one is Jake...

The one with the guitar could sing...the other one was pitchy and needs some vocal coaching before you send them to Sweden..

Should just send back Katrina and the Wave...the only performance of the night that grabbed me

Katrina and The Waves were amazing and that song, omg

It was a great show and I think the besty song won, i like its youthful exhuberance and i think it will do well with the right staging

Finally we have a half decent song

[Nicky91]

my ranking after this show:

1. Bianca should have won, she really nailed her song

2. Karl, also impressive singer

3. Darline, young sweet girls, and i'm starting to become a massive fan of The Shires

4. Dulcima, something different, but the voices don't match i think

5. Matthew James, a nice song, a bit safe

6. Joe&Jake, i don't know why the public sent this song, they are more annoying than Jedward

[T*]

why do y'all care so much

it's Eurovision


because life? What life?

[Nicky91]

12th or 11th, I'm not quite sure.

11th, and it was a good song

[Crimson Dynamo]

why do y'all care so much

it's Eurovision

:shocked:


Eurovision is life

[Shaun]

I don't suppose anyone knows when our single/music video is actually released?

[Nicky91]

I don't suppose anyone knows when our single/music video is actually released?

well i guess just before the song contest

[Cherie]

why do y'all care so much

it's Eurovision

:clap2: I tune in for the rigged voting, nothing else

[Cherie]

I used to love it when I was a kid and when it was held in my hometown I got to go :amazed:

[Mystic Mock]

I've got ideas on how we can salvage something out of this disaster.

1. Change their group name into something cool sounding like Horizon, or Succubus.

2. Have the guy playing the Guitar be the lead vocalist as his voice is better than the other guy.

3. Give both of them vocal training going into the final, which hopefully will happen considering we will be performing the song in the semi-final this year, and tbf it doesn't sound as bad live as Poland's.:omgno:

4. Try and make them look a bit older so that it isn't just all young people voting for them, look does count for more than what people would like to admit and this would help them a lot if the makeup department makes them look slightly older.

5. Maybe remix the song up a little bit so there's enough drama for us to have a chance at a top 5 finish this year.

[Cherie]

I've got ideas on how we can salvage something out of this disaster.

1. Change their group name into something cool sounding like Horizon, or Succubus.

2. Have the guy playing the Guitar be the lead vocalist as his voice is better than the other guy.

3. Give both of them vocal training going into the final, which hopefully will happen considering we will be performing the song in the semi-final this year, and tbf it doesn't sound as bad live as Poland's.:omgno:

4. Try and make them look a bit older so that it isn't just all young people voting for them, look does count for more than what people would like to admit and this would help them a lot if the makeup department makes them look slightly older.

5. Maybe remix the song up a little bit so there's enough drama for us to have a chance at a top 5 finish this year.


Is it bad :omgno: Ireland have Nicky :flutter:

[Ross.]

:clap2: I tune in for the rigged voting, nothing else

ikr we aren't ever going to win again so there's no point in getting worked up over it :laugh:

Our entry isn't even bad this year get over yourselves :fist:

[Black Dagger]

Is the voting still that rigged though? Really?

It's a lot less obvious then it was anyway if it is.

[Ross.]

shut up Lucas!!!!!!!!!!

[Black Dagger]

Who asked for your input. **** off!!

[Babayaro.]

Why is Ross always so vile

[Mystic Mock]

Is it bad :omgno: Ireland have Nicky :flutter:

Poland's studio version is fine, however the singer fails to recreate it live imo.

[Nicky91]

Poland's studio version is fine, however the singer fails to recreate it live imo.

you mean Margaret, i like her and i like the song

[Denver]

Does anyone know what the ratings were?

[Black Dagger]

680k

[Denver]

Oh i was hoping at least a million

[Black Dagger]

It was never getting that. In that slot it's average viewing is 167k