dog micro chipping - should it be compulsory ?

[waterhog]

dog micro chipping - should it be compulsory ? 08.03.16





i welcome with no delay

its a law that is sweet

if a dog does fail to obey

all can identify in any street.

this will prevent the unruly

out of control won't bleed

some may think i am acting cruelly

as a owner i should tighten my lead.

its so simple to orchestrate

your peace of mind won't be lost

putting it in will never frustrate

£100 is value for money cost.

don't worry about the DNA trace

getting closer is the "george orwells" society

the "orwellian" no what creed, colour and race

they are watching and can identify any variety.


its all about information

surely it must be better to provide

so you no before if there is a potential contamination

you can be informed before you dog divide.

have i explained micro chipping

a dog or brass should be protected by law

if poetry in the box starts slipping

you can assume hold of me has the long arm of the claw.

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes

[joeysteele]

Yes, definitely.

[Cherie]

Yes

[Niamh.]

I think so yeah but it would be hard to enforce

[DemolitionRed]

I thought it already was?
Our little dog travels with us abroad so he has to have a microchip but I just assumed all dogs had them.

[Niamh.]

I thought it already was?
Our little dog travels with us abroad so he has to have a microchip but I just assumed all dogs had them.

It's not compulsory here in Ireland anyway but both my dog and cat are microchipped

[Ammi]

..this was said in 2013 so I don't know if it's still going ahead next month...

The Government is bringing in compulsory microchipping for all dogs from 6 April 2016 to help reunite owners with lost or stolen pets, relieve the burden on animal charities and local authorities and protect the welfare of dogs by promoting responsible dog ownership.


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/all-dogs-in-england-to-get-free-microchips

[Cherie]

I thought it already was?
Our little dog travels with us abroad so he has to have a microchip but I just assumed all dogs had them.

Travelling to Europe requires a pet passport which includes a chip and a check by a vet before they return, ( for Spain at any rate) I could take my pooch to Ireland on the Ferry no questions asked

[Niamh.]

..this was said in 2013 so I don't know if it's still going ahead next month...

The Government is bringing in compulsory microchipping for all dogs from 6 April 2016 to help reunite owners with lost or stolen pets, relieve the burden on animal charities and local authorities and protect the welfare of dogs by promoting responsible dog ownership.


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/all-dogs-in-england-to-get-free-microchips

I don't know why people wouldn't want to get this done

[Cherie]

I don't know why people wouldn't want to get this done

In some cases it's a case of not being able to afford it, or in others it so they can breed dogs and then abandon them with no consequences

[Ammi]

I don't know why people wouldn't want to get this done

..hmmmm, the only reason I could think of is of those who keep dogs other than as loved family pets.../that they're just not bothered, type thing ...if a dog is generally neglected and uncared for, then having it micro-chipped would be something that wouldn't be done either..?...

[Ammi]

In some cases it's a case of not being able to afford it, or in others it so they can breed dogs and then abandon them with no consequences


..that's why it being free from next month is a great thing...

[Cherie]

..that's why it being free from next month is a great thing...

Yes it is, though I wonder if the companies will charge a fee to change address as they have done so in the past :fist:

[Niamh.]

In some cases it's a case of not being able to afford it, or in others it so they can breed dogs and then abandon them with no consequences

I don't think it's very expensive to have it done (I don't remember because I got my dogs done when she was being spayed so I'm ot sure how much the microchip bit cost on it's own and the breeder micro chips all their kittens before they sell them) but tbf if a person can't afford to look after the dogs needs like micro chipping and vet bills should they really get a dog?

[Crimson Dynamo]

if people would stop buying bloody dogs from breeders and randoms and get dogs from places like the Dogs Trust all dogs would be microchipped

adopt

dont shop

[Niamh.]

if people would stop buying bloody dogs from breeders and randoms and get dogs from places like the Dogs Trust all dogs would be microchipped

adopt

dont shop

Reputable breeders chip their puppies/kittens before selling them

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reputable breeders chip their puppies/kittens before selling them

yes but joe public recognising reputable breeders is one of the problemos

[Niamh.]

yes but joe public recognising reputable breeders is one of the problemos

mmm well that whole puppy farming/bad breeding practices is a whole other issue that needs clamping down on

[DemolitionRed]

Travelling to Europe requires a pet passport which includes a chip and a check by a vet before they return, ( for Spain at any rate) I could take my pooch to Ireland on the Ferry no questions asked

Also an up to date rabies shot and before you re-enter the UK, your dog has to of been wormed (I think within 48 hours) by a vet.

We never get asked for any documentation when leaving the UK or entering another country but when you are coming back to the UK you have to park your car up, (in whatever country you're in) and take your dog into an office where they carefully scrutinize its documentation. They are really hot on the microchip documents being properly signed off and so anyone taking their dog abroad, make sure its been fully signed or your dog won't get back in.

[DemolitionRed]

I'm trying to think when I last saw a stray or lost dog in the UK. Its rare to see a dog running around on its own over here. I think the Brits are very responsible dog owners already and if they made the chip compulsory, we'd just get it done.

In France people let their dog out in the morning before they go to work and find it waiting by the front door when they get home. That's why dog siht in France is such a problem.

[arista]

There is a problem
with Older Dogs
as there chip needs Updating

[Cherie]

I don't think it's very expensive to have it done (I don't remember because I got my dogs done when she was being spayed so I'm ot sure how much the microchip bit cost on it's own and the breeder micro chips all their kittens before they sell them) but tbf if a person can't afford to look after the dogs needs like micro chipping and vet bills should they really get a dog?


I don't think being unable to afford to micro chip your dog or cat necessarily equates to being a bad owner :laugh:

[Niamh.]

I don't think being unable to afford to micro chip your dog or cat necessarily equates to being a bad owner :laugh:

I didn't say that. I said if you can't afford to pay for things that your dog should have maybe you shouldn't get one.

[arista]

Its free to those who can not afford the £20 chip
via dog charity

[Jessica.]

I think we got a chip done in Ireland for only 18 euros, you just need to shop around and look for the best deal

[arista]

I think we got a chip done in Ireland for only 18 euros, you just need to shop around and look for the best deal


In UK its Free

[Cherie]

I didn't say that. I said if you can't afford to pay for things that your dog should have maybe you shouldn't get one.

But having a micro chip isn't a legal requirement and doesn't impact on your dogs health so it's up to the owner to decide how important it is to them, I don't think it should come down to if you can't afford to microchip you can't have a dog

[Cherie]

Its free to those who can not afford the £20 chip
via dog charity


It is now, but it wasn't in the past :fist:

[Niamh.]

But having a micro chip isn't a legal requirement and doesn't impact on your dogs health so it's up to the owner to decide how important it is to them, I don't think it should come down to if you can't afford to microchip you can't have a dog

Well. My post that you initially replied to was me asking why people wouldn't want to have their dogs chipped and you offered not being able to afford it as a reason, now you've changed that to it not being important to them which is an entirely different reason :shrug:

[Cherie]

Well. My post that you initially replied to was me asking why people wouldn't want to have their dogs chipped and you offered not being able to afford it as a reason, now you've changed that to it not being important to them which is an entirely different reason :shrug:

I didn't realise it was free now when I posted that., I haven't changed my view I have added to it, also it might be free now but when we moved house we had to pay 50.00 to update the details, so it might be "cheap" initially or free but there are added costs

[Crimson Dynamo]

of course if we all had robot dogs none of this would be needed

[arista]

It is now, but it wasn't in the past :fist:



Sure
Times Change Cherie

[smudgie]

Yes.

I don't think the cost is too bad, and free if you are hard up.

[joeysteele]

It was only £10 when I got my dog done, you can still get it done for around that between £10 and £20 anyway,some places I understand are having 'free' days for it too.
Its a one off thing so the price is really tiny when you think of the massive benefits to it.

[user104658]

One potential drawback here: if it's mandatory, people will hack their dog's chip out before they abandon it. Or they'll just kill it instead :shrug:.

[Cherie]

One potential drawback here: if it's mandatory, people will hack their dog's chip out before they abandon it. Or they'll just kill it instead :shrug:.


:eek: I didn't think of that

[Niamh.]

One potential drawback here: if it's mandatory, people will hack their dog's chip out before they abandon it. Or they'll just kill it instead :shrug:.

:o ohh that's a gruesome thought

[arista]

It was only £10 when I got my dog done, you can still get it done for around that between £10 and £20 anyway,some places I understand are having 'free' days for it too.
Its a one off thing so the price is really tiny when you think of the massive benefits to it.


You better get it Checked
as it may no longer work now

[Livia]

Having a pet is a big responsibility. It shocks me that everyone wouldn't automatically get their animal chipped.

Puppy farmers and importers should get a prison sentence, always. A long one. Make some examples...

[user104658]

Having a pet is a big responsibility. It shocks me that everyone wouldn't automatically get their animal chipped.

Puppy farmers and importers should get a prison sentence, always. A long one. Make some examples...

I'd take that further; with things as they are at the moment, I don't think there's much justification for deliberately breeding domestic cats and dogs at all, or at least, there should be a licencing process with only a certain number of breeders allowed in an area. There are SO many animals being killed in shelters every day, if anyone really claims to be an animal lover and wants to give an animal a home, there are countless available to cater to all home situations.

[DemolitionRed]

One potential drawback here: if it's mandatory, people will hack their dog's chip out before they abandon it. Or they'll just kill it instead :shrug:.

Good point.

[Tom4784]

It isn't already? I thought it was.

[Kazanne]

All dogs should be micro chipped, and as LT said adoption is the way ,so many poor dogs the are in need of a loving home.

[joeysteele]

You better get it Checked
as it may no longer work now

It works and you don't need them checked arista.

[Kizzy]

Yes I really hope it will aid in putting a stop to puppy farming.

[Amy Jade]

I don't know why you wouldn't have your pet microchiped just incase

[Beso]

poor fido having to burden the indignity of the cashiers bleep as his owners recieve the bill for his latest TNF treatment.

[LaLaLand]

Absolutely, it's so simple, cheap and effective.

[user104658]

Interestingly, I've done a bit of googling and apparently there are some concerns about chipping and an increased risk of tumors in dogs? Don't know how extensive or reliable the research there is, but interesting nonetheless. Was also reading that it's actually not too hard to get your hands on the tech to blank / rewrite the information stored on the chip... so it's not actually a deterrent for professional "pedigree thieves".

[Northern Monkey]

Well i'm sure if i can get my rabbits chipped then dog owners can get their dogs chipped.

[Northern Monkey]

On a slightly more sinister note - How long before it's compulsory for all humans to be micro-chipped?

[waterhog]

On a slightly more sinister note - How long before it's compulsory for all humans to be micro-chipped?

I was first on the list :cheer2:

[user104658]

On a slightly more sinister note - How long before it's compulsory for all humans to be micro-chipped?

Soon as Trump gets into power... but it'll only be Muslims and Mexicans.

[Niamh.]

On a slightly more sinister note - How long before it's compulsory for all humans to be micro-chipped?

Soon as Trump gets into power... but it'll only be Muslims and Mexicans.

That doesn't even seem like an "out there" idea now :worry:

[Ammi]

...TiBB Tower's rumour has it that Niamh already has the Scottish members micro-chipped to keep an eye on them, they just don't realise it..LT/TS..so no, not just Mexicans and Muslims... this isn't a Big Brother forum for nothing...

[Ammi]

..oh fan sorry, was appropriate..:fan:...

[bots]

Finger prints, dental records, dna, national insurance numbers, passports, drivers license to name but a few ... we are already micro chipped :laugh:

[Livia]

Soon as Trump gets into power... but it'll only be Muslims and Mexicans.

Jews catching a break at last. This is good news...