USA: Egyptian student agrees to leave US after Trump comment

[Crimson Dynamo]

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A student pilot from Egypt has agreed to leave the US after posting on Facebook that the world would thank him if he killed Donald Trump.

Emadeldin Elsayed, 23, was not charged with a crime but the US authorities sought to deport him, his attorney, Hani Bushra, said.

With his visa canceled, $40,000 in tuition lost, a Secret Service investigation and a month in immigration detention haunting his past, Mr. Bushra said his client’s dream of working as an airline pilot seems dashed.



“I literally don’t mind taking a lifetime sentence in jail for killing this guy, I would actually be doing the whole world a favor,” he wrote
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Be careful what you say online

[Jack_]

Ah, nice bit of latent racism it seems

[the truth]

good riddance, im sure he will enjoy going back to the Egyptian socialist dictatorship

[Crimson Dynamo]

good riddance, im sure he will enjoy going back to the Egyptian socialist dictatorship

indeed

[user104658]

Have no idea how people manage to read sh*t like this and not find it utterly terrifying. It was quite obviously not a genuine threat. A man has had his life ruined for daring to speak out against "certain people". And some people wonder how it's possible to make Gestapo allegories :umm2:.

[arista]

Yes Dumb Fecker

[Niamh.]

I hope they're equally clamping down on all the other stupid stuff people say online :umm2:

[user104658]

I hope they're equally clamping down on all the other stupid stuff people say online :umm2:

Nah, only if it's about someone with "connections". That's how these things work, don't you know :nono:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he was training to be an airline pilot

he seems like the ideal captain type to me

:umm2:

[Tom4784]

Ridiculous and it'll only get worse if he gets elected, Trump sent a man who said his hands were small pictures of his hands for 20 years, imagine what he'll do with actual power.

If he's elected this will start happening a lot more to anyone who dares to speak out against Führer Trump.

[Crimson Dynamo]

“I literally don’t mind taking a lifetime sentence in jail for killing this guy, I would actually be doing the whole world a favor,” he wrote


yes lets have more of this "speaking out"


:umm2:

[Livia]

Have no idea how people manage to read sh*t like this and not find it utterly terrifying. It was quite obviously not a genuine threat. A man has had his life ruined for daring to speak out against "certain people". And some people wonder how it's possible to make Gestapo allegories :umm2:.

Pretty much like it is in Egypt, then.

Hoping people are going to knock it off with the Nazi analogies soon, at least until Trump gasses 30 million people and invades most of Europe.

[user104658]

Pretty much like it is in Egypt, then.

Hoping people are going to knock it off with the Nazi analogies soon, at least until Trump gasses 30 million people and invades most of Europe.

Because as we all know, the best way to stop fascism is to ignore it and make excuses for it until it's taken hold and then try to tackle it. The point is to stop these toxic ideologies from gaining any meaningful platform in the first place.

Oh and also, AGAIN, who gives a flying **** if it's "like that in Egypt" or "Worse than that in Egypt". This seems to be a worryingly common theme these days. Insisting that something is good or acceptable on the grounds that something else is worse :umm2:. Enjoy your race to the bottom.

[MTVN]

So he was not charged with a crime but they were going to deport him anyway so he saved them the bother? This story doesn't sound right to me

[Mystic Mock]

Pretty much like it is in Egypt, then.

Hoping people are going to knock it off with the Nazi analogies soon, at least until Trump gasses 30 million people and invades most of Europe.

It's not Nazism but it's definitely a dictatorship of it's own kind.

If this guy was going to really do harm to Trump he wouldn't be posting it publicly online.

At the end of the day I believe what should've happened is that Facebook banned him, and that at most The Police did a checkup to see if his mentally stable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The moral is, if you are a guest in the USA and training to be a pilot

DOnt threaten to kill a presidential candidate

piss take or not

[Ammi]

So he was not charged with a crime but they were going to deport him anyway so he saved them the bother? This story doesn't sound right to me

..nope, it doesn't sound right to me either but there is very little information about it, this is all I could find... Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a statement that Mr Elsayed was arrested because he violated "the terms of his admission to the United States." The agency did not provide further details.

[DemolitionRed]

He violated a federal law. It doesn't matter if he was joking, if that threat has been shown to Trump and Trump said he felt threatened by it then that's enough for a prosecution, except in this case, there was no prosecution.

Anything that could be considered a real threat, is not protected under 'freedom of speech' and the 1st amendment. However, if this had been taken to court, the likelihood is, it would of been thrown out.

[bots]

It's not Nazism but it's definitely a dictatorship of it's own kind.

If this guy was going to really do harm to Trump he wouldn't be posting it publicly online.

At the end of the day I believe what should've happened is that Facebook banned him, and that at most The Police did a checkup to see if his mentally stable.

Plenty people who have ended up involved in terrorist activities have posted about it first on social media. The likelihood is that he broke some other condition that would have resulted in him getting the boot anyway, so he thought, what the hell, may as well post

[Ammi]

Plenty people who have ended up involved in terrorist activities have posted about it first on social media. The likelihood is that he broke some other condition that would have resulted in him getting the boot anyway, so he thought, what the hell, may as well post

..this makes me think of Andreas Lubitz who crashed the plane into the French Alps and what he had apparently said... "One day I'm going to do something that will change the whole system, and everyone will know my name and remember." ...I know that Emadeldin Elsayed was not licensed to pilot a plane yet but hmmmm, would I want to be in a passenger plane in however many years time that he was piloting, in full knowledge of him saying this, whether it was serious or not...even more so, would I want either of my children, any of my family to...that part for me is nothing to do with his religion at all, it's that he's intending to become a pilot and to become responsible for human lives...anyways, I still personally think that there is something/or somethings that we don't know with this as to why charges were not made in an agreement of him self-deporting....

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Nonsense. All the rednecks that threatened to kill "Barack Osama" weren't even given a second look.

[kirklancaster]

BITONTHESLIDE
"Plenty people who have ended up involved in terrorist activities have posted about it first on social media. The likelihood is that he broke some other condition that would have resulted in him getting the boot anyway, so he thought, what the hell, may as well post"

THETRUTH
"good riddance, im sure he will enjoy going back to the Egyptian socialist dictatorship"

LIVIA
"Pretty much like it is in Egypt, then.

Hoping people are going to knock it off with the Nazi analogies soon, at least until Trump gasses 30 million people and invades most of Europe."

MTVN
"So he was not charged with a crime but they were going to deport him anyway so he saved them the bother? This story doesn't sound right to me"

AMMI

"..this makes me think of Andreas Lubitz who crashed the plane into the French Alps and what he had apparently said... "One day I'm going to do something that will change the whole system, and everyone will know my name and remember." ...I know that Emadeldin Elsayed was not licensed to pilot a plane yet but hmmmm, would I want to be in a passenger plane in however many years time that he was piloting, in full knowledge of him saying this, whether it was serious or not...even more so, would I want either of my children, any of my family to...that part for me is nothing to do with his religion at all, it's that he's intending to become a pilot and to become responsible for human lives...anyways, I still personally think that there is something/or somethings that we don't know with this as to why charges were not made in an agreement of him self-deporting...."

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[kirklancaster]

He violated a federal law. It doesn't matter if he was joking, if that threat has been shown to Trump and Trump said he felt threatened by it then that's enough for a prosecution, except in this case, there was no prosecution.

Anything that could be considered a real threat, is not protected under 'freedom of speech' and the 1st amendment. However, if this had been taken to court, the likelihood is, it would of been thrown out.

Once again, I am amazed and in total awe of those among us who not only have direct access to the inner sanctum of a country's Intelligence Services and therefore privy to truths and information denied to the rest of us, but also have the the twin gifts of Precognition and Prophesy.

[Kizzy]

He violated a federal law. It doesn't matter if he was joking, if that threat has been shown to Trump and Trump said he felt threatened by it then that's enough for a prosecution, except in this case, there was no prosecution.

Anything that could be considered a real threat, is not protected under 'freedom of speech' and the 1st amendment. However, if this had been taken to court, the likelihood is, it would of been thrown out.

I agree where is the justice, how has it been seen to have been done?
Trial by social media is usually frowned upon isn't it? Not when it involves people with money and power.
If there is a case let it be heard and let the guy have his day in court.
Democracy and the right to trial....No?

[DemolitionRed]

Nonsense. All the rednecks that threatened to kill "Barack Osama" weren't even given a second look.

That's true. The 'strange fruit' comments were appallingly threatening.

[Livia]

Because as we all know, the best way to stop fascism is to ignore it and make excuses for it until it's taken hold and then try to tackle it. The point is to stop these toxic ideologies from gaining any meaningful platform in the first place.

Oh and also, AGAIN, who gives a flying **** if it's "like that in Egypt" or "Worse than that in Egypt". This seems to be a worryingly common theme these days. Insisting that something is good or acceptable on the grounds that something else is worse :umm2:. Enjoy your race to the bottom.

No one's suggesting it's more acceptable in the West, but why are you so much more worried about it if it happens in the West than if it happens in Egypt?

[Z]

The moral is, if you are a guest in the USA and training to be a pilot

DOnt threaten to kill a presidential candidate

piss take or not

I see this more in line with a general cracking down of stupid statements on social media than a race thing; the Wild West years of the internet are coming to an end and you'd have to be a moron to think posting stuff like that is acceptable. Deporting the guy seems a bit much but he should know that aviation and terrorism go hand in hand nowadays and that someone in his position is going to be under extra scrutiny than someone working in a fast food restaurant or something.

[arista]

"Deporting the guy seems a bit much"


No Z

its USA
not disneyland

[user104658]

No one's suggesting it's more acceptable in the West, but why are you so much more worried about it if it happens in the West than if it happens in Egypt?

Oh gee I dunno, it might be something to do with the $4 billion military budget of Egypt vs the $600 billion military budget of the USA. It makes the prospect of fascism taking hold there slightly more worrying. Just slightly.