Champion Tipster Game (Cheltenham)

[Alf]

Cheltenham Horse-racing festival starts next week, Tuesday to Friday.

I'm trying to think up some kind of gambling game we could have on here for it, if anyone's interested?


So far I've come up with an idea that we could start the beginning of the festival with so many TIBB pounds so we can place bets at TIBB bookmakers, I could put the runners and starting prices (at the time of being posted) up the night before each day's racing and we can pick out which horse and how much we put on in each race.

The winner will be the one with the biggest total of winnings at the end of the festival.:shrug:

Thoughts?

Any other Ideas?


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[MTVN]

I'd be up for that, could try get an award for it if enough people play

[Cherie]

Sounds fun put me down Alf

[Alf]

Ok, if we can get at least around ten people, then we'll give it a go.

If it works out ok we could do Aintree next month, and Royal Ascot in the Summer.

If we are to do it, I could do with a few suggestions has to rules, starting budget and things.

I'll put 7pm on Monday deadline for entry.

[Crimson Dynamo]

put me down for this

[Cherie]

You might want to change the title to reflect that this is a game maybe Alf?

[Cherie]

Just so you know I will be using tried and tested losing methods such as the jockey colours and if the horse has a nice name rather than the form guide to make my selections :worry:

[kirklancaster]

Put me down for it Alf. I will test my psychic predictions against L.T.'s form horses. :laugh:

[Nicky91]

can i join this game?



is it for free, then i'll be in

[Crimson Dynamo]

I made decent cash money at Chelts this time last year

so watch out

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just so you know I will be using tried and tested losing methods such as the jockey colours and if the horse has a nice name rather than the form guide to make my selections :worry:

sorry that is Kirks method

[Will.]

I'll play

[kirklancaster]

sorry that is Kirks method

:joker:

[kirklancaster]

£100 Starting Bank.
WIN and EACH WAY Bets allowed.

I suggest all odds for Each Way bets, Starting Prices, and Bets are settled in accordance with Tattersalls Rules of Betting.

We ought to rope ToySoldier in as he is a Betting Shop Manager.

Oh -- and if LT is in the lead coming up to the final race of the festival, I say we disqualify him. :hee:

[Alf]

£100 Starting Bank.
WIN and EACH WAY Bets allowed.

I suggest all odds for Each Way bets, Starting Prices, and Bets are settled in accordance with Tattersalls Rules of Betting.

We ought to rope ToySoldier in as he is a Betting Shop Manager.

Oh -- and if LT is in the lead coming up to the final race of the festival, I say we disqualify him. :hee:
I know you can get an odds calculator on google, that's how I intended to work out who's won what.

What about forecasts and Tricasts, doubles and trebles, accumulators? do you think these sort of things could make it to complicated?

And I'd like an age limit of 18, I don't want to be accused of introducing minors into gambling.

[Cherie]

I know you can get an odds calculator on google, that's how I intended to work out who's won what.

What about forecasts and Tricasts, doubles and trebles, accumulators? do you think these sort of things could make it to complicated?

And I'd like an age limit of 18, I don't want to be accused of introducing minors into gambling.

:worry: I would keep it simple to begin with

[kirklancaster]

:worry: I would keep it simple to begin with

:joker: Come on Cherie - admit it - you are in the bookies every day having a punt. You know every type of bet going:laugh:

[kirklancaster]

put me down for this

Talking about Cheltenham and winners, a mate of mine once backed a 66/1 winner at Cheltenham.

The form figures read:

PPPFFFBBP

Which for non-punters means:

P = Pulled Up - the horse did not finish
F = Fell
B = Brought Down - by another horse falling alongside and bringing this one down with it.

I asked him what the feck made him back that, and he looked at me as if I was an idiot and said;

"Its form".

Asked to explain, he said;

"PPPFFFBBP - Pissed in, Pissed in, Pissed in, Flew in, Flew in, Flew in, Blew in, Blew in, Pissed in." :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

note Many Clouds win today at Kelso

[kirklancaster]

note Many Clouds win today at Kelso

Really? I have not watched one race today so I don't know what was running.

[Cherie]

note Many Clouds win today at Kelso

Noted and looks up where Kelso might be :D

[Cherie]

:joker: Come on Cherie - admit it - you are in the bookies every day having a punt. You know every type of bet going:laugh:

My secrets out :eek: I usually stumble in after 5 pints of Guinness in o'Neills

[Cherie]

Our game coordinator is banned :oh:

[Alf]

I'm sorry for letting you all down.

[Crimson Dynamo]

each way Bellshill in the 1.30

[Crimson Dynamo]

watching it live via paddypower

:hee:

[Cherie]

Alf did you place the 220,000 bet on the 2nd race :omgno:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and we are OFF

[Crimson Dynamo]

:oh:

[Cherie]

each way Bellshill in the 1.30

:hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:hee:

i had to bet it as its where I was born and it winning would be worse if i had not than me losing

[Crimson Dynamo]

as douvan will win the arkle I think I am going e/e on sizing john

:think:

[Cherie]

i had to bet it as its where I was born and it winning would be worse if i had not than me losing

Better luck with the next one :fc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Better luck with the next one :fc:

sizing john to run second to Douvan

:fc:

[Alf]

Douvan to beat Vaniteux, forecast.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:hee:

[Alf]

Well in trumpet

[Cherie]

The 220,000 bet came home, 80k return...

[Cherie]

Well in trumpet

My faiths been restored :joker: bring on the tips LT

[Crimson Dynamo]

Beg to Differ in the next

[Alf]

I'll go for Morning Assembly

[Crimson Dynamo]

:facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

took a wrong step and unseated and it was cruising too

:fist:

[Cherie]

Okay :laugh: next.....

[Alf]

I'm going for 'The New One' in the champion hurdle

[Crimson Dynamo]

the next one is tough to call

[Cherie]

Annie Power or Sempre Medici

[michael21]

the next one is tough to call

intresting name for a bigger doger

[Alf]

This is the first race I've actually put a bet on.

I've done a lucky 15 on the big races of each day.

I've done

The New One in the Champion Hurdle
Sprinter Sacre in the Queen Mother
Thistlecrack in the World Hurdle
Djackadam in the Gold Cup

[Crimson Dynamo]

i got a free bet with my second place with PP

:hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Win
Single Combined Bets:
Annie Power, Identity Thief, Camping Ground @ 6/5


:fc:

[Alf]

Blistering performance by Annie.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Walsh rode her like a dream

[Crimson Dynamo]

Vroum Vroum Mag

will be very hard to beat

Polly Peachum for a place

[Alf]

I'll go for Polly to beat the favourite

[Crimson Dynamo]

lucky i stuck with Vroum

:hee:

[kirklancaster]

My secrets out :eek: I usually stumble in after 5 pints of Guinness in o'Neills

:laugh:

I've only just finished bloody work after a late start and I'm knackered, but I placed just 2 bets this morning; Alteior won the first at 4/1 and Sizing John 9/1 was 2nd to the odds on fav in the 2.10 - I did not have time to study the rest of the card.

I will post my selections for tomorrow on here later - and if I win, I promise to treat you to all the Guiness you can swag. :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Vroum Vroum Mag

will be very hard to beat

Polly Peachum for a place

I wish I'd had more time this morning but bloody work got in the way - I would have backed Vroum Vroum Mag and Annie Power. I taped the races but haven't watched it yet.

[kirklancaster]

watching it live via paddypower

:hee:

I have a Paddy Power account, do you LT?

[kirklancaster]

I'm sorry for letting you all down.

You haven't let anyone down Alf, It was a brilliant idea, but probably too late in the day to organise everything. I'm hoping you'll get it up and running for Aintree though - and other big meetings.

[user104658]

We ought to rope ToySoldier in as he is a Betting Shop Manager.


Jesus, Kirk, I'll be settling enough bets as it is this week :umm2:.

Although, to be honest, Cheltenham Festival slippage and turnover (industry wide) has waned a bit in recent years. Used to be pretty hectic but these days I wouldn't say any day is busier than an average Saturday, except maybe the Friday. Horses have been dropping quite steadily in popularity.

Grand National on the other hand gets busier every year :bawling:.

[kirklancaster]

Jesus, Kirk, I'll be settling enough bets as it is this week :umm2:.

Although, to be honest, Cheltenham Festival slippage and turnover (industry wide) has waned a bit in recent years. Used to be pretty hectic but these days I wouldn't say any day is busier than an average Saturday, except maybe the Friday. Horses have been dropping quite steadily in popularity.

Grand National on the other hand gets busier every year :bawling:.

:joker::joker: If I can't debate you to death, I'm gonna work you to death. :joker:

Seriously T.S. - I think you should get involved for Aintree. How about it?

[kirklancaster]

A TOI PHIL - each way - in the first.
UN DE SCEAUX - win

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yanworth
Arbe de Vie
Un De Sceaux

[Crimson Dynamo]

Annie Power broke the course record

[Cherie]

Annie Power broke the course record

:smug: i loved the name knew nothing about the horse

[Crimson Dynamo]

:smug: i loved the name knew nothing about the horse

Paddy Power, of Paddy Power betting forgot to back it yesterday and was kicking himself :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have a Paddy Power account, do you LT?

i do, had it for years

[Cherie]

Paddy Power, of Paddy Power betting forgot to back it yesterday and was kicking himself :joker:

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Politologue

e/w in the 2.50 looks a cracking bet

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jesus, Kirk, I'll be settling enough bets as it is this week :umm2:.

Although, to be honest, Cheltenham Festival slippage and turnover (industry wide) has waned a bit in recent years. Used to be pretty hectic but these days I wouldn't say any day is busier than an average Saturday, except maybe the Friday. Horses have been dropping quite steadily in popularity.

Grand National on the other hand gets busier every year :bawling:.

surely that reflects online tho?

I would never go near a bookies these days

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the 2.10 it looks a nailed on 2 horse race so a bet on both in first 2 places looks a good one.

1. MORE OF THAT
2. NO MORE HEROES

[Crimson Dynamo]

The crowds were up at Cheltenham yesterday and so, apparently, was the betting turnover

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the 4.10 I am on Josies Orders e/w

[user104658]

surely that reflects online tho?

I would never go near a bookies these days

Nah, horses and dogs are down industry wide across all platforms; even more so in England than Scotland. Punters putting more money into football, general sports and of course the "crack cocaine of the high street" - slots and roulette. More money going on other products means less money on racing, basically. Online actually takes an even smaller proportion on horses compared to football etc. than in shop. This is because younger people are less interested in racing , and more likely to use online. For example, in shop you'll see a lot of racing promotions and price boosts etc. Aimed at the old codgers who have plenty of pension to burn but no idea how to work a smartphone, whereas online you'll see a lot more sports promotion like massive price boosts for new customers.

There's far less focus on racing for attracting new customers also, because they prefer to gain brand loyalty from younger people. Because old people will be dead soon innit, not a good long term investment...

That's right guys! Betting on the horses means you're past it :joker:. Seriously the split is quite visible. The young guys will place a horse bet here and there while they're in, but they are THERE for football and roulette. On the flip side, the old guys will fill out a football coupon or two and some maybe stick their change in a machine, but they're there to crawl the walls and pour over the racing post. And eat their stinky lunch. And "run" with their dodgy hips to the counter as soon as the race goes off. And get pissy when they're told they're too late. Or if they lose, insist that it must have been late so they should get their money back.......

I love my job so much. :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nah, horses and dogs are down industry wide across all platforms; even more so in England than Scotland. Punters putting more money into football, general sports and of course the "crack cocaine of the high street" - slots and roulette. More money going on other products means less money on racing, basically. Online actually takes an even smaller proportion on horses compared to football etc. than in shop. This is because younger people are less interested in racing , and more likely to use online. For example, in shop you'll see a lot of racing promotions and price boosts etc. Aimed at the old codgers who have plenty of pension to burn but no idea how to work a smartphone, whereas online you'll see a lot more sports promotion like massive price boosts for new customers.

There's far less focus on racing for attracting new customers also, because they prefer to gain brand loyalty from younger people. Because old people will be dead soon innit, not a good long term investment...

That's right guys! Betting on the horses means you're past it :joker:. Seriously the split is quite visible. The young guys will place a horse bet here and there while they're in, but they are THERE for football and roulette. On the flip side, the old guys will fill out a football coupon or two and some maybe stick their change in a machine, but they're there to crawl the walls and pour over the racing post. And eat their stinky lunch. And "run" with their dodgy hips to the counter as soon as the race goes off. And get pissy when they're told they're too late. Or if they lose, insist that it must have been late so they should get their money back.......

I love my job so much. :umm2:

:flutter: glidng around the walls reading the post pages, smoking Regal Kings size and nipping out betwix races for a half and a half at the run down boozer


thems were the days

[Cherie]

In the 4.10 I am on Josies Orders e/w

Balthazar king

[Crimson Dynamo]

Balthazar king

well get yer bawbies oot hen and hae a wee bet

[Cherie]

well get yer bawbies oot hen and hae a wee bet

I joined PP with a tenner and got my free bets :amazed: might put a fiver on :worry:

[Crimson Dynamo]

a FIVER :omgno:


are you literally Donald Trump?


You'll be in the poor hoose before teatime

[Cherie]

a FIVER :omgno:


are you literally Donald Trump?


You'll be in the poor hoose before teatime

If I lose it my ten pounds I blame you, I need to get over this cold and back to work, I'll probably have the house on the 3.30 :worry:

[Crimson Dynamo]

If I lose it my ten pounds I blame you, I need to get over this cold and back to work, I'll probably have the house on the 3.30 :worry:

My tips will have you rolling in money this avvo

you will be lighting cigars with £50 notes by teatime

:hee:

[Cherie]

My tips will have you rolling in money this avvo

you will be lighting cigars with £50 notes by teatime

:hee:

:laugh:

[Cherie]

Ive no idea what Im doing but i am 8.65 up :hee: i had Ubak in last race as one of the 5 live guys put a bet on him

[Alf]

Back to watch the great Sprinter Sacre

Only hope he's as good as he used to be.

[Cherie]

Back to watch the great Sprinter Sacre

Only hope he's as good as he used to be.

I had him at 5/1 :amazed: thank you 5 live :flutter:

[Alf]

I knew he was special Gee-Gee

[Cherie]

In the 4.10 I am on Josies Orders e/w

Tx LT

[Crimson Dynamo]

Good old josie and I get 2 free bets tomoz as I got 2 second place

[kirklancaster]

Nah, horses and dogs are down industry wide across all platforms; even more so in England than Scotland. Punters putting more money into football, general sports and of course the "crack cocaine of the high street" - slots and roulette. More money going on other products means less money on racing, basically. Online actually takes an even smaller proportion on horses compared to football etc. than in shop. This is because younger people are less interested in racing , and more likely to use online. For example, in shop you'll see a lot of racing promotions and price boosts etc. Aimed at the old codgers who have plenty of pension to burn but no idea how to work a smartphone, whereas online you'll see a lot more sports promotion like massive price boosts for new customers.

There's far less focus on racing for attracting new customers also, because they prefer to gain brand loyalty from younger people. Because old people will be dead soon innit, not a good long term investment...

That's right guys! Betting on the horses means you're past it :joker:. Seriously the split is quite visible. The young guys will place a horse bet here and there while they're in, but they are THERE for football and roulette. On the flip side, the old guys will fill out a football coupon or two and some maybe stick their change in a machine, but they're there to crawl the walls and pour over the racing post. And eat their stinky lunch. And "run" with their dodgy hips to the counter as soon as the race goes off. And get pissy when they're told they're too late. Or if they lose, insist that it must have been late so they should get their money back.......

I love my job so much. :umm2:

:joker::joker::joker: The sad thing is - I fecking RECOGNISE everything you're saying. :laugh:

:nono: I'm NOT the old guy who gets pissy. :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Good old josie and I get 2 free bets tomoz as I got 2 second place

Well done LT - I love Paddy, he is the best bookie for free bets, money back offers etc.

I am kicking myself for deserting Sprinter Sacre.

[kirklancaster]

I had him at 5/1 :amazed: thank you 5 live :flutter:

Well done Cherie - Are you in front up to now?

[user104658]

:joker::joker::joker: The sad thing is - I fecking RECOGNISE everything you're saying. [emoji23]

:nono: I'm NOT the old guy who gets pissy. [emoji23]
You strike me more as the type who has the bet neatly written with an early price, rather than the "on-the-off scratched onto a scrap of paper by a dying chicken" shuffler. :joker:

[Cherie]

Well done Cherie - Are you in front up to now?

I lost 4.00 in the last two races after 5 live went off air :joker:

[user104658]

My fav part of today: my least favourite (most hated?) big customer, a seriously rude and detestable bigot of a man who I have had multiple run ins with, lost his biggest bet of the day (£500). Just as I was closing, I found a crumpled bet slip (top copy, unprocessed) of his for the same amount in the same race, on the horse that actually won it. He obviously second guessed himself and discarded it. Would have returned £3000 :hee:. Such sad story, makesed my day. :joker:

Seriously though this guy is a horror. I'd have gotten rid of him long ago if he didn't single-handedly account for almost 80% of our entire greyhounds turnover :umm2:.

[Cherie]

Where are my tips guys :fist:

[user104658]

Where are my tips guys :fist:

Here's my tip:

Don't gamble.

[Cherie]

Here's my tip:

Don't gamble.

Is it running in the 3.30 :amazed:

[Crimson Dynamo]

the 1.30 is a lottery but I think I will back Bristol De Mai, Cup Final in the next e/w

cant see past Vautour in the 2.50 and Thistlecrack in the 3.30

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/02746/07_17002444_1fb202_2746147a.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

the 1.30 is a lottery but I think I will back Bristol De Mai, Cup Final in the next e/w

cant see past Vautour in the 2.50 and Thistlecrack in the 3.30

:hee:

would have won if it had not hit 2 fences but a place is a good start to the day

[Alf]

Where are my tips guys :fist:
Thistlecrack in the 3.30

[Alf]

I should have backed that, Maldini is my favourite ever footballer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:oh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

get in Vautour

:hee:

[Alf]

Cracker-lacking Thistle

[Crimson Dynamo]

get in Thistlecrack


ya beauty woo hoo

[Crimson Dynamo]

what a beautiful race that was

[Cherie]

Ist and 2nd in the 3.30 And a double of Vantaur and Thistle :dance:

[Cherie]

Oh I had Bobs worth ew as well :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

if Limini wins the 16.50 a few bookies are going out of business :joker:

[Cherie]

if Limini wins the 16.50 a few bookies are going out of business :joker:

:cheer2: i didn't have him :bawling:

[Crimson Dynamo]

it romped home and another (short priced) winner for LT

bad bad day for the bookies

lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

bring on the Gold Cup

[Cherie]

Finished off with the 17.30 winner cause of causes ...the DM might not be good for much but the tips are pretty good

[Crimson Dynamo]

Finished off with the 17.30 winner cause of causes ...the DM might not be good for much but the tips are pretty good

the last race?

Cherie you have a problem and its time to face it

:omgno:

[Crimson Dynamo]

*goes off to look at DM*

[Cherie]

the last race?

Cherie you have a problem and its time to face it

:omgno:

:fist: Don't be jelly of my success

[Crimson Dynamo]

:fist: Don't be jelly of my success

we still have a full day tomoz

:flutter:


see you round the back of the paddock at first light

:creep:

[Cherie]

Cue Card ew for the cup...follow me on the road to ruin. :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cue Card ew for the cup...follow me on the road to ruin. :hee:

I cant see past Don POli at the mo

[Cherie]

I cant see past Don POli at the mo

You are probably right :notimpressed:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Footpad in the 1.30 and Wait for Me in the 2.10 are my hot tips so far on day 4

[Crimson Dynamo]

ROBIN GOODFELLOW'S TIPS
1.30: Footpad
2.10: All Yours
2.50: Shantou Village
3.30: Don Cossack
4.10: Paint The Clouds
4.50: Qualando
5.30: Rock The World


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[Crimson Dynamo]

JN4GeHlUOVo

[Crimson Dynamo]

thinking about Ruby Walsh in the GC

:think:

[MTVN]

My money is going on Smad Place

[Crimson Dynamo]

A respectable place to start the day

[Alf]

Djakadam for me in the big one.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Djakadam for me in the big one.

i think i will punt that too as I have won on it before

[Crimson Dynamo]

come on Barters Hill

:fc:

[Alf]

Fagan nearly picked their pockets then.

[Crimson Dynamo]

that was brutal down the last, great race tho

[Crimson Dynamo]

here we go

[Alf]

Oh well! Frankly my dear I don't Djakadam

[Crimson Dynamo]

the big horse just had the legs

2 places so cant complain

[Crimson Dynamo]

i wonder what cue card would have done?

[Cherie]

I had to go to work :fist:

[Cherie]

i wonder what cue card would have done?

Why was he not in the race?

[Cherie]

Paint the çlouds :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Paint the çlouds :hee:

i backed that too, he stormed the end so i reckon he could have won if the jockey had been cannier

well done to vicky p too

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why was he not in the race?

fell 3 out or so

[Cherie]

i backed that too, he stormed the end so i reckon he could have won if the jockey had been cannier

well done to vicky p too

So pleased for here her seemed to be a lot of negativity towards her in the week

fell 3 out or so


Oh hope he and the jockey are okay

[Cherie]

Sky Khan :hee: then lost in the last race :bawling:

Hanging up my handbag now until the Grand National, it was fun though :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

see you for the national

[Cherie]

see you for the national


:douf:

[Cherie]

Kirk must be counting his losses no sign of him :laugh:

[Cherie]

Wheres Alf with the runners and riders for the National :oh:


I backed Sir Deschamps yesterday as the OH thought he might do well, got him at 40/1 and now Ruby is riding him :dance:

[Crimson Dynamo]

iv not looked properly yet but i fancy last years winner again

:omgno:

[Cherie]

Well... According to the man on my radio the ground may not suit him and it favours the Last Samurai :omgno: