Big Brother opinions that you've had, that have changed retrospectively?

[Raph]

Whether it's because you re-watched a series, read post-social media, or developed a new understanding of relationships, social structures whatever. Was there any housemate you felt a certain way towards in the house but then differently now? My personal experiences include:

1) Hazel (BB14). I really didn't like her at the time as I felt like she was manipulating and using Daley. Having said that, since then, experiencing this sort of situation myself and understanding the notion of victim-blaming better, I appreciated her situation in the house far more and like her as a housemate now.

2) Rachel (BB9). I loved her when I first watched and for the longest time she was my favorite housemate ever. Until I experienced post-social media Rachel interactions as well as understood how her winning BBUK was largely due to people relating to a passive girl in a positive way, due to gender constructs in society etc. Not saying that's the only reason people like her by any means but just an understanding i've personally come to have.

3) Helen (BB15). I really liked her and wanted her to win because I notoriously despised Ashleigh. Having said that, they are just as bad as each other and I believe that two wrongs definitely don't make a right. It was the worst final 2 ever in my opinion, where mean people really were appreciated over kind ones.

4) Pete (BB7). The first time I watched the series I really warmed to him, but I was also very young. Since then, rewatching I saw through his gimmicks and his manipulative desires to win and really went off him as a housemate.

Just some examples I thought of.

[Cal.]

I never used to be much for Aisleyne - that changed when I re watched the first 4/5 weeks of BB7.

I used to think Emma was literally one of the only good housemates in BB5 when actually Michelle and Nadia are just as good as her.

I never used to be much for housemates like Saskia, like I had no opinion on her really, but now I like her and she's in my top 20.

[Dominic]

Anyways there aren't many as I watched all seasons last year but I watched BB14 live and:

- I liked Callum but now I think he's an awful arrogant douche.
- I loved Dexter but now I think he's just dull.
- I hated Sallie but now looking back she's an amazing housemate and brought the dramz.

[Samm]

I don't think any of my opinions have changed, it's probably because I haven't re-watched a lot of seasons

[Shaun]

can we stop with the Helen/Ashleigh "just as bad as each other" comments :nono: she was 1000 times worse :fist:

for me, I've only rewatched BB6 once and the only opinions I noticed changing were that I liked Eugene a lot more (hated him at the time for making me lose Derek </3) and also enjoyed Roberto's idiocy more. I went a bit off Science as well but still liked him.

[Raph]

In terms of BBCAN/USA:

1) Nicole (BB16USA) - At the time I really didn't like her and even shared the nickname 'Nicflop' to describe her. Having said that, I think my dislike of her was rooted in the blonde girl stereotype that has come time and time again on Big Brother. Also, re-watching the season, I saw how she grew as a person over the course of the series, making her appreciate her much more as a housemate.

2) Graig (BBCAN3) - I hated him when he was on the show. He made some rude remarks about people of color and really rubbed me the wrong way. Having said that, re-watching the season and seeing how he checked himself after he left, I really grew some respect for him. It's always nice to see people learn from their mistakes.

Will add more as I think of them!

[Cal.]

Oh and growing up watching with my mum I usually preferred housemates she liked such as Pete, Samanda ect. Now I'm older I can have my own opinions and I much prefer people like Aisleyne/Charley from their series' (I still adored Nikki at the time).

[Dominic]

can we stop with the Helen/Ashleigh "just as bad as each other" comments :nono: she was 1000 times worse :fist:


this exactly.

[Headie]

2) Rachel (BB9). I loved her when I first watched and for the longest time she was my favorite housemate ever. Until I experienced post-social media Rachel interactions as well as understood how her winning BBUK was largely due to people relating to a passive girl in a positive way, due to gender constructs in society etc. Not saying that's the only reason people like her by any means but just an understanding i've personally come to have.


Or maybe it's because she was actually just a lovely, likeable, genuine girl who was up against vile, awful men throughout the entire series. Just a guess :shrug:

[Raph]

Oh and growing up watching with my mum I usually preferred housemates she liked such as Pete, Samanda ect. Now I'm older I can have my own opinions and I much prefer people like Aisleyne/Charley from their series' (I still adored Nikki at the time).

This is a really good point! Age plays such a big role in housemates you like and how you are influenced by the people around you! I think me liking Rachel so much when I was 13 had a lot to do with age - she was super relatable to a 13 year old whereas not so much to perhaps a 20 year old!

[Dominic]

And yeah tons of my BBUS opinions changed from when I watched seasons 8 and 11 in 2010 and when I actually watched tons of feeds moments which proved that Evil Dick was evil scum who had an edit that made him look strategic which is why I liked him originally.

[Jason.]

I liked Samanda at the time, but honestly they were really dull and I've only noticed this from my current BB8-rewatch. Nice enough girls but dull and didn't deserve to be the longest-lasting BB8 females out of the originals. As much as I dislike Chanel she was a better HM than they were.

[Headie]

I don't think any of my opinions have changed, it's probably because I haven't re-watched a lot of seasons

Rewatch BB7 and change your opinion on Richard tbh
https://uploadir.com/u/ocjpfc0t

[Dominic]

Rewatch BB7 and change your opinion on Richard tbh
https://uploadir.com/u/ocjpfc0t

Rewatch BB10 and change your opinion on BB10 tbh
https://uploadir.com/u/ocjpfc0t

[Raph]

Or maybe it's because she was actually just a lovely, likeable, genuine girl who was up against vile, awful men throughout the entire series. Just a guess :shrug:

I'm just articulating the fact that I think it's much harder for a more vocal or outspoken girl to be successful at Big Brother, and I could back that up with so many examples whereas men who have been outspoken and vocal are often praised by the public for their behavior!

[Raph]

And yeah tons of my BBUS opinions changed from when I watched seasons 8 and 11 in 2010 and when I actually watched tons of feeds moments which proved that Evil Dick was evil scum who had an edit that made him look strategic which is why I liked him originally.

Yes! Watching feed clips of Jeff (BB11/13) post season definitely resonated the same way with me. He was portrayed as this kind, loyal american prince charming type when really on the feeds he said a lot of questionable things which totally contradicted the stereotyped portrayal of him on the show.

[Lostie!]

BB7 was my very first series and I remember loving it from beginning to end, and I found Nikki and Richard to be hilarious (iirc the Shahbaz bullying still annoyed me but I managed to mostly forget about it). Nowdays I look back at it with a lot more negativity after rewatching some of the bullying, and in turn I view both Nikki and Richard's BB7 stints in a really bad light as opposed to liking them as I did in 2006.

[Headie]

Rewatch BB10 and change your opinion on BB10 tbh
https://uploadir.com/u/ocjpfc0t

Why would I torture myself like that tho
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[Dominic]

Why would I torture myself like that tho
https://uploadir.com/u/ocjpfc0t
I said BB10, not BB9
https://uploadir.com/u/ocjpfc0t

[Daniel.]

I can only think of watching original series on and off when I was a kid and liking what the casual viewer liked. For example, I liked Anthony in BB6, Pete in BB7, Samanda in BB8 as the people I watched with were casual viewers like my mother and my school friends.

Now, I sit back and watch them all and have completely different opinions - loathe Anthony and Pete now and I watched and loved housemates I didn't even know existed at the time (like Derek),

[Daniel.]

Why would I torture myself like that tho
https://uploadir.com/u/ocjpfc0t

I'm surprised you don't like BB10, it's got a hugely diverse cast and Noirin (a black girl) is the main character until her eviction. Plus, no dull episodes.

[Daniel.]

Also, in BB14 I did a ranking shortly after and Dexter made my top ten, he bored me looking back.

[Jason.]

Brenda watch BB9 and change your opinion on Rachel tbh

http://i.imgur.com/VOF2HNL.gif

(i wanted an excuse to do this)

[Dominic]

But I like Rach and she's in my top six

[Jason.]

oh mess lmao

i thought you disliked her cause you dislike bb9

[Dominic]

oh mess lmao

i thought you disliked her cause you dislike bb9

I dislike bb9 but I still love lisa, sara, rachel and some other controversial choices!

[rk3388]

Pete was very manipulative in BB7! I remember him in the final weeks telling them his dead friend came to him in a dream saying he will win Big Brother, and if he doesn't he will lose faith in God/Heaven :nono:

[Raph]

Pete was very manipulative in BB7! I remember him in the final weeks telling them his dead friend came to him in a dream saying he will win Big Brother, and if he doesn't he will lose faith in God/Heaven :nono:

Yes this is the main thing I was referring to! If anyone else had said that they would've stood ZERO chance of winning.

[Jason.]

Pete won BB7 the moment he fell down the stairs on Launch Night tbh

[reece(:]

Pete was very manipulative in BB7! I remember him in the final weeks telling them his dead friend came to him in a dream saying he will win Big Brother, and if he doesn't he will lose faith in God/Heaven :nono:
Also the way he treat Aisleyne after the persuasion task because she mumbled her speech

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Andy from Season 15 USA. He said horrible things on feeds and I really did not like him, and was angry when he won. Saying that he is actually funny on twitter and does not give a **** if you hate him, plus he played a great game and one of the best winners.

[Jason.]

Also the way he treat Aisleyne after the persuasion task because she mumbled her speech

Yeah that annoyed me. Like a speech during a task is really going to change the public's mind on who they want to win and ruin his chances of winning. What a cocky dickhead he was during that. :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

I liked Rodrigo in BB10 when I watched it first time but I couldn't bare him on a rewatch.

I've never liked Pete or Brian Dowling

[Babayaro.]

Pete won BB7 the moment he fell down the stairs on Launch Night tbh

Jack & Joe could never

[Jason.]

Who?

[Babayaro.]

Exactly

[Dominic]

Jack bb16?

[Babayaro.]

BB14

[Headie]

I'm surprised you don't like BB10, it's got a hugely diverse cast and Noirin (a black girl) is the main character until her eviction. Plus, no dull episodes.

The diversity was too forced, you could tell the HMs were only chosen to tick boxes, whereas the BB6/BB7 diversity was them being cast based on their diverse personalities.

But Noirin was the best thing to come out of BB10 :love: She's the only reason I may rewatch BB10 at some point in the future.

[Natalie.]

Andy from Season 15 USA. He said horrible things on feeds and I really did not like him, and was angry when he won. Saying that he is actually funny on twitter and does not give a **** if you hate him, plus he played a great game and one of the best winners.

He is great on twitter :laugh:

[Dominic]

He is great on twitter :laugh:

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[Raph]

The diversity was too forced, you could tell the HMs were only chosen to tick boxes, whereas the BB6/BB7 diversity was them being cast based on their diverse personalities.

But Noirin was the best thing to come out of BB10 :love: She's the only reason I may rewatch BB10 at some point in the future.

That's a really interesting point you bring up. I think the diversity was too forced. Having said that, I also think the lack of diversity is also too forced in most Channel 5 seasons, and the opposite has happened. And having experienced that take place, I definitely prefer forced diversity over none of it. I remember one of the BB10 housemates telling me that once they told them their ethnicity, they were automatically skipped through the line and through to the next stage. I believe instead this happens now with the straight white model/z-lister types both male and female.

As you said, the best seasons are made when the best people are cast. And often enough, that ends up being a diverse cast. Through diverse casts, each person brings different values to the show bringing great discourse and entertaining television. It's just a shame Channel 5 don't seem to get that.

[TomC]

The diversity was too forced, you could tell the HMs were only chosen to tick boxes, whereas the BB6/BB7 diversity was them being cast based on their diverse personalities.

But Noirin was the best thing to come out of BB10 :love: She's the only reason I may rewatch BB10 at some point in the future.

I disagree. Yes, it was very diverse, but they picked a range of interesting and unique characters.

[Dominic]

I also watched a bit of BB9 and loved Kathreya but I loathe her now

[Dominic]

Yeah BB10 had tons of interesting characters. The female cast is very diverse and all were great. The male cast had tons of unique characters. There were also tons of people to love and tons of people to hate. It deffo wasnt forced

[Raph]

I disagree. Yes, it was very diverse, but they picked a range of interesting and unique characters.

14 minorities and only 8 straight white males/females. Just looked it up. Damn, BB10 really rocked it. Channel 5 could never!

And as people above have said, yes they were diverse ethnically and sexuality-wise but also very much so through personality. If production was better that year, it could've been a golden series I think.

[TomC]

The one problem I have with the BB10 cast is there were some people who quite clearly weren't mentally stable. Angel and Sree.

Other than that it was delicious!

[Black Dagger]

I'd say Luke I guess? (Marsden)

****ing hated his BB9 stint and he's probably in my bottom 10 of male housemates, but his BOTS appearances (not that he goes on much anymore) are glorious and he usually has righteous opinions.

[Dominic]

The one problem I have with the BB10 cast is there were some people who quite clearly weren't mentally stable. Angel and Sree.

Other than that it was delicious!
That is true but both were very fun to watch tho

[TomC]

That is true but both were very fun to watch tho

I agree! Both have proved to be legendary. It's just so sad that Sree cut his wrists. And Angel clearly isn't safe with herself either - she didn't eat for 4 days!

[LukeB]

Arlie(BBCAN2) - I found this guy annoying on my first watch but I really love him after re-watching season 2. He's hilarious imo and someone who I would enjoy watching again.

Sabrina/Rachelle (BBCAN2) - I really disliked the gremlins because I found them high school mean girls but re-watching it, they redeemed themself and I actually liked them. Sabrina the most though.

[Mystic Mock]

1. Sree (BB10) - At the time I really hated him really bad, but when he went I realised that the show missed him, and that he wasn't as bad or as horrible as some of the Housemates that stuck around in that series.

2. Sunshine (BB11) - Again at the time I found her really irritating, but looking back on the series she was actually quite amusing, and her rivalry with Govan was really fun.

3. Corin (BB11) - I actually liked her at the time, but now I'm wondering why I actually did when all she really said was "I'm buzzing."

4. Ashleigh (BB15) - I liked her during the series, but when I looked back on the series I was thinking of what did she really do? And then it turned out that she didn't really do much other than look pretty.

5. Christopher (BB15) - I always found him a bit dodgy for some reason, like he was playing up to his awkward routine as it's an easy vote getter, but tbf to him he is just like what he was on BB on Twitter so fair play.

6. Kieran (BB16) - I always liked Kieran, but when he left in the 4In4Out twist I think it made me realise how important it is to have a normal person in the house with a chilled out attitude, because to me BB16 became a Soap Opera once he left and I've never been a fan of Reality Shows that are too overly dramatic (I'm looking at you BBCAN) so that's why I grew an even bigger appreciation for Kieran.

7. Jack (BB16) - When looking back on the series Jack was actually always a big character in the series, you saw his highs and lows, and both sides could actually make entertaining TV, he was probably the most three dimensional of his season which actually surprises me considering the role that BB initially cast him for, and his reaction to the Morgue is still gonna go down as one of my favourite moments in BB history.

8. Luke S (BB13) - I really didn't like him at the time, but looking back on his stint in the series he offered some great car crash TV, he grassed up the fact that his Showmance with Dobbie was fake, and he had the "why did you do this to me?" moment when Conor pushed the button to get £50K, then there was him giving us one of the most disgusting moments in BB history with licking Dobbie's black toe.

9. Aaron (BB12) - I liked him more at the time than I do now tbh, however I still stand by that he was the best of his series, but that's not saying much.

10. Jackie (BB14) - I strongly disliked her at the time (and still do now) however I appreciate that she gave more to the series than her Daughter did, and I feel that she just deserves more credit for her contribution to the series no matter how unlikable she was.

11. Dan (BB5) - When I was a lot younger he was actually my favourite in BB5 lol, but looking back he was just always trying to stop arguments which was really annoying, and also frustrating for the Housemates in the argument because how are they suppose to sort their issues out with each other if you've got Dan getting in the way stopping the flow of the argument?

[Mystic Mock]

Or maybe it's because she was actually just a lovely, likeable, genuine girl who was up against vile, awful men throughout the entire series. Just a guess :shrug:

How do you (or anyone for that matter) know what she's like when she gave nothing of herself away during her whole stint?

The male Housemates was better than her in that series as they was actually Human who could make mistakes, as was the other females better too (with the exception of Kathreya)

[Mystic Mock]

Pete was very manipulative in BB7! I remember him in the final weeks telling them his dead friend came to him in a dream saying he will win Big Brother, and if he doesn't he will lose faith in God/Heaven :nono:

Why wasn't he saying this when I was watching the series? I would've liked him more.:joker:

[Black Dagger]

~Is bored of defending Rachel to you now tbh, Rex was ****ing awful to her and she was the only person to stand up to Alexandra, but we will keep going with the 'pretend she's boring' arc because she wasn't a total knob~

[Black Dagger]

http://www.meggamusic.co.uk/bb/Rachel_To_Win_BB9.html

All these glorious moments from the rice queen :clap1:

[Mystic Mock]

~Is bored of defending Rachel to you now tbh, Rex was ****ing awful to her and she was the only person to stand up to Alexandra, but we will keep going with the 'pretend she's boring' arc because she wasn't a total knob~

It's not pretending she was boring, she WAS boring.

If she was in any shape or form a big character I would be defending her as I always defend the big characters, she just wasn't a big character.

The Forums normally support the big characters too so to see Rachel and Sara being ranked higher than the big characters in that series is deeply annoying.

And so what that she stood up to Alexandra? One thing in 13 weeks, let's give her the crown now hey?:joker:

The worst to Rachel imo was Darnell when he looked like he was gonna knock her out, but weirdly that never gets talked about very much.:crazy:

The only Myth about Rachel was that she was entertaining on Live Feed.

[Black Dagger]

Luxury bedroom, getting ready on eviction evening:
Rex: Will there be anyone supporting you in the crowd tonight?
Rachel: Umm, I don't know. My friends and family will be there...
Rex: I won't be supporting you
Rachel: Good. I don't expect you to support me, Rex

So nasty, standing up to him :clap1:

[Black Dagger]

Well your favourite was Luke and all he did in his stint was make a few bitchy comments and strike up a showmance with that hideous waste of time.

[Black Dagger]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xala9l_rachel-mikey-star-jumps

Iconic star jumping <333333333333

[Mystic Mock]

http://www.meggamusic.co.uk/bb/Rachel_To_Win_BB9.html

All these glorious moments from the rice queen :clap1:

A lot of these stuff aren't exactly unique to her though.:laugh:

[Black Dagger]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xajpg7_silent-protest-control-freak

Shutting Rex down again :clap1:

Him sitting there gloomily because she put him in his place <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333

[Mystic Mock]

Well your favourite was Luke and all he did in his stint was make a few bitchy comments and strike up a showmance with that hideous waste of time.

Funny bitchy comments which you would normally like in any other series of Big Brother.

Plus he also had fun as well which ironically never gets mentioned.

[Black Dagger]

You'd have to find me quotes of what was funny tbh, I only ever remember being infuriated.

[Mystic Mock]

You'd have to find me quotes of what was funny tbh, I only ever remember being infuriated.

It was years ago now, and I was a lot younger at the time to remember them all.

But I remember finding it funny when Luke and Rebecca cheered Mohammed and Kathreya being "evicted" in the locker room.

And I'm sorry but I won't believe you or a lot of TIBB if you're saying that you didn't at least chuckle at that as that's the type of thing that you and a lot of people on TIBB normally love.

[Black Dagger]

When have I ever liked housemates getting cheered out? But ok.

I didn't like it in BB13 when Caroline was doing it practically every week.

[Mystic Mock]

When have I ever liked housemates getting cheered out? But ok.

I didn't like it in BB13 when Caroline was doing it practically every week.

You normally like catty humour like didn't you like people like Janice Dickinson? Helen Wood? You also didn't mind Nikki Grahame did you?

[Mystic Mock]

And also Caroline really was extreme.

[Black Dagger]

I never enjoyed Nikki's BBUK stints, especially her last.

Janice was righteous and a goddess and was against scum like Austin <333.

But I already explained the Helen thing 10000000 times and this thread has gone off from where it was supposed to be and I'm ready for bed.

[Daniel.]

Not a fan of Rachel but give me her any da over Luke who really was boring.

[Mystic Mock]

Not a fan of Rachel but give me her any da over Luke who really was boring.

Luke wasn't boring, he had fun, was bitchy, and had issues with irritating people like Kathreya.

[Maxxie.]

I was too young in 2010 to realise John James was a douche and I remember reslly not liking Freddie from BB10 but from seeing old clips I found him hysterical.

And obviously, there's many opinions that changed through the series. I detested Tiffny at the start of CBB17 but 3 weeks later she was like my all time favourite HM. A few days ago I rewatched that episode where Angie found out that Bowie died and I could see why I hated her cuz I still did again when watching that episode. As much as I eventually came to love her, I can't see how some people could of been on her side at that time.

[Mystic Mock]

I was too young in 2010 to realise John James was a douche and I remember reslly not liking Freddie from BB10 but from seeing old clips I found him hysterical.

And obviously, there's many opinions that changed through the series. I detested Tiffny at the start of CBB17 but 3 weeks later she was like my all time favourite HM. A few days ago I rewatched that episode where Angie found out that Bowie died and I could see why I hated her cuz I still did again when watching that episode. As much as I eventually came to love her, I can't see how some people could of been on her side at that time.

As a Tiffany fan from that series, I am with you on the Bowie thing, it was in very poor taste imo.

[Jason.]

Luke wasn't boring, he had fun, was bitchy, and had issues with irritating people like Kathreya.

Luke was tragic.

[Babayaro.]

I didn't care much for Rachel at the time but looking back, she was not boring. Being a genuinely nice person does not make you boring, it makes you less of a twat than the likes of Bex and Dale, etc.

[Mystic Mock]

I didn't care much for Rachel at the time but looking back, she was not boring. Being a genuinely nice person does not make you boring, it makes you less of a twat than the likes of Bex and Dale, etc.

I never said being nice makes you boring, having nothing interesting to say makes a person boring.

[Mystic Mock]

Luke was tragic.

Yes... tragically underrated for Rachel Rice.:crazy::joker: