Bungling cop shoots colleague 9 times...

[Ammi]

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The moment a bungling officer shot his colleague nine times during a drug sting is captured in a video just released by a US police department.

"Oh s*** that was Jacob!" screams Lt Greg Brachle after opening fire on the undercover detective during the January 2015 mix-up in a McDonald's car park in Albuquerque.

Jacob Grant, 38, survived, though he lost 80% of his blood and suffered injuries to all of his major organs as he was shot in the arm, shoulder, chest, abdomen and hip.

The footage was released a day after the city of Albuquerque paid a $6.5m settlement to Detective Grant, who has undergone multiple surgeries since the shooting.

The white officer and another colleague were in a vehicle with two black drug suspects, who were surrendering as officers moved in.

Lt Brachle approached the car, which had tinted windows, and opened fire as one of the rear doors opened.

"Holy s*** it's Jacob! ******* me!" Lt Greg Brachle screams as he realises his near-fatal error.

"I didn't know it was you," he howls. "Hang in there, bro. I thought you were a bad guy."

"Are you okay?" he asks the wounded cop, who wasn't wearing body armour.

Detective Grant replies: "No."

As part of the settlement, the city agreed to pay the father-of-two's medical expenses for the rest of his life.

He will be granted medical retirement.

Lt Brachle retired after the Police Oversight Agency recommended he be fired.

The agency found that he did not follow standard procedures and missed a crucial briefing before the sting operation.



http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/bungling-cop-shoots-colleague-nine-times/ar-BBret8m?ocid=spartandhp

[Mystic Mock]

How can you accidentally shoot a colleague nine times?

I suspect there's more to his motives that can't be proven, especially as he wasn't at the briefing on this particular case either, what was he exactly doing at that moment?

[kirklancaster]

Same story - different victim. Just another over zealous, trigger-happy cop who was prepared to shoot what he thought was a blackman without observing any of the accepted codes of practice.

The key phrases in the report are:

"a bungling officer shot his colleague nine times"

"The white officer and another colleague were in a vehicle with two black drug suspects, who were surrendering as officers moved in."

How does one justify shooting a man who is surrendering 9 times???????

I wonder how much compensation one of the black 'suspects' would have received HAD they actually have been the victim?

[Kizzy]

Unbelievable :/ and then to blame him? talk about adding insult to injury...
Pleased he survived though wow! shot 9 times through a car window and lives, what a guy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Accidents happen when guns are involved, law enforcement is dangerous. Hindsight has no danger

[user104658]

"Holy s*** it's Jacob! ******* me!" Lt Greg Brachle screams as he realises his near-fatal error.

"I didn't know it was you," he howls. "Hang in there, bro. I thought you were a bad guy."

"Are you okay?" he asks the wounded cop, who wasn't wearing body armour.

Detective Grant replies: "No."


:joker: I'm sorry but this reads like a comedy sketch! Like a scene form South Park or something.

LT still adamantly refusing to admit that US cops can be trigger-happy is the icing on the cake."Anyone could accidentally shoot another cop NINE TIMES, accidents happen."

Hahahaha...

[Tom4784]

When police officers make mistakes people can and will die. Saying 'accidents happen' is a stupid copout (wordplay not intended).

If you're going to arm every police officer on duty with a gun then standards to be a police officer needs to be higher. There's far too many police officers in the US that should never be allowed to hold positions of power.

[Kizzy]

Is this from 1970?

[arista]

Its America
Ammi.

[GiRTh]

:joker: I'm sorry but this reads like a comedy sketch! Like a scene form South Park or something.

LT still adamantly refusing to admit that US cops can be trigger-happy is the icing on the cake."Anyone could accidentally shoot another cop NINE TIMES, accidents happen."

Hahahaha...:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The policeman shot what he thought was a deadly perp 9 times who turned out to be AN UNDERCOVER COP.

BIG DIFFERENCE


but still lets get the usual suspects together to bait the police

:idc:

[user104658]

The policeman shot what he thought was a deadly perp 9 times who turned out to be AN UNDERCOVER COP.

BIG DIFFERENCE


but still lets get the usual suspects together to bait the police

:idc:
He knew the Cop as soon as he saw his face, therefore knew what he looked like. In other words - he shot someone before he had seen them properly any idea who they actually were.

No, in fact, he didn't just shoot... He unloaded his entire clip on a closed car. That's not tactical, that is a panic reaction, and anyone who panics like that should not be holding a gun in the first place Ffs.

[GiRTh]

Cop who shot fellow officer: I didn't know it was you



Brachle appears to scream out in fear and shock after realizing he'd shot one of his own.

"I'm sorry," Brachle screams. "I didn't know it was you ... I thought you were a bad guy."

Grant has undergone multiple surgeries, and has been in and out of a hospital since the incident. He and the city settled the lawsuit for $6.5 million this week.

Grant said because of the settlement, all the donations given to his family will be set aside for other injured officers and charities.

The city has shelled out almost $40 million in settlements since 2010 when it comes to lawsuits facing the Albuquerque Police Department.

That does not include lawyer fees, though the city also agreed to pick up Grant's medical expenses for the rest of his life.

Grant will also receive a medical retirement. He turned 38 this month.

"My family and I wish to express our profound gratitude to the community, my fellow APD officers, Chief (Gorden) Eden and my medical staff," he said.

He added that he can't change or undo what happened.

"We are hopeful that this incident will be positively used to improve law enforcement training, practices, policies and procedures," he said.

Brachle has since retired. The Police Oversight Agency recently recommended that Brachle be fired, but he retired before that could happen.

The agency's executive director, Edward Harness, says that Brachle made several mistakes that could have been prevented using common sense.

Brachle, Grant's supervisor, didn't attend a briefing for the drug bust, and responded for some reason when he found out the bust was happening.

Without knowing specific details of the operation, Brachle interjected and shot Grant who was sitting in the back of the car behind the driver.

Brachle shot Grant when Grant pulled a gun on one of the suspects. Harness says that it is standard operating procedure that a cop drive a bust car and that their partner sit behind them for safety.

Harness says Brachle had done hundreds of drug busts and should have known where Grant was sitting. He also should have known that Grant would be armed.

"It should have been evident to Brachle where Grant was in that car," Harness said.

Brachle and Grant had worked together for over two years.

In his lapel video, Brachle was listening to radio communications of the operation where both of the suspects were being described as African-American.

Harness says that Brachle should have realized who Grant was the moment he opened the door of the car being targeted.

This is not the first shooting case involving Brachle. He was involved in a shooting at a southwest Albuquerque home in 1998. According to a lawsuit filed in 2000, an Albuquerque man was in a fight with his ex-wife and a neighbor. The suit claims Brachle shot the man as he left the house with his hands in the air. He did survive.

According to the report, the man was drunk and charged with assault on a peace officer

LINK (http://www.koat.com/news/city-releases-horrific-blueonblue-shooting-video/38791262)

The officer doing the shooting was a Lieutenant and not an untrained rookie. Also, the Lieutenant had allegedly shot a man with his hands up in 1998.

[GiRTh]

The policeman shot what he thought was a deadly perp 9 times who turned out to be AN UNDERCOVER COP.

BIG DIFFERENCE


but still lets get the usual suspects together to bait the police

:idc::conf:

I'm not sure who is baiting the police. This is yet another unnecessary shooting.

[Tom4784]

:conf:

I'm not sure who is baiting the police. This is yet another unnecessary shooting.

LT defends police officers no matter what they do, it's always the victim's fault, it's never the perpetrator's.

[GiRTh]

LT defends police officers no matter what they do, it's always the victim's fault, it's never the perpetrator's. Unless its the Portuguese police in the McCann investigation. :pipe:

[user104658]

LT defends police officers no matter what they do, it's always the victim's fault, it's never the perpetrator's.

I was wondering if there would ever be an exception to the rule but apparently not. Even when the victim is also a cop. And the weapon is fired NINE times. Nine! Not nine random pot shots trying to get one hit - nine shots that all connected. At an obscured target. It's madness...

[joeysteele]

How can you accidentally shoot a colleague nine times?

I suspect there's more to his motives that can't be proven, especially as he wasn't at the briefing on this particular case either, what was he exactly doing at that moment?

No way should it be able to happen Mock, this is a shocking story.

[Cherie]

LT defends police officers no matter what they do, it's always the victim's fault, it's never the perpetrator's.

Why is it a dangerous attitude? What's going to happen? are we all going to be gunned down by LT in an early morning killing spree :omgno:

[Tom4784]

Why is it a dangerous attitude? What's going to happen? are we all going to be gunned down by LT in an early morning killing spree :omgno:

Victim blaming is always a dangerous attitude and one that should be discouraged. If we blame the victims then the perpetrators can be vindicated for their actions.

[Johnnyuk123]

Victim blaming is always a dangerous attitude and one that should be discouraged. If we blame the victims then the perpetrators can be vindicated for their actions.

So you would rather the officer did not shoot and took a bullet instead?

[Tom4784]

So you would rather the officer did not shoot and took a bullet instead?

Well, the undercover police officer seemed competent enough not to shoot a co-worker that he knew would be apart of the operation so your post makes no real sense.

(You should read articles before commenting on threads so that you don't embarrass yourself in future.)

[Johnnyuk123]

Well, the undercover police officer seemed competent enough not to shoot a co-worker that he knew would be apart of the operation so your post makes no real sense.

(You should read articles before commenting on threads so that you don't embarrass yourself in future.)

Apparently everyones post in any thread makes no sense to you. And we all need to read up and educate our selves too.

[Tom4784]

Apparently everyones post in any thread makes no sense to you. And we all need to read up and educate our selves too.

Well, since you don't understand what this story is about then you really should take a minute to read the article so you don't embarass yourself by making posts that don't have any relevance at all to the story.

Long story short, A police officer shot another undercover police officer nine times because he was stupid and didn't follow procedure. The officer who was shot was never going to shoot the idiot cop who fired the gun, so saying 'you would rather the officer did not shoot and took a bullet instead?' makes no sense because the shooter was in no danger from the undercover officer.

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[Johnnyuk123]

Well, since you don't understand what this story is about then you really should take a minute to read the article so you don't embarass yourself by making posts that don't have any relevance at all to the story.

Long story short, A police officer shot another undercover police officer nine times because he was stupid and didn't follow procedure. The officer who was shot was never going to shoot the idiot cop who fired the gun, so saying 'you would rather the officer did not shoot and took a bullet instead?' makes no sense because the shooter was in no danger from the undercover officer.

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Everyone in here with a different point of view to yours is some how uneducated. We have not apparently read the story:joker:

[Tom4784]

Everyone in here with a different point of view to yours is some how uneducated. We have not apparently read the story:joker:

Didn't say you are uneducated, just that you didn't read the article which is true because you didn't know the circumstances of the shooting. Not sure where this 'uneducated' business has come from, I can only assume it's a Freudian slip on your part.

It's not about opinions, it's about facts. a police officer was shot nine times because of another police officer's incompetence. FACT. The police officer that fired his gun was never in danger from the officer he shot. FACT. The Shooter is at fault since he didn't follow procedure. FACT.

Facts are not points of view, Johnny.

[Johnnyuk123]

Didn't say you are uneducated, just that you didn't read the article which is true because you didn't know the circumstances of the shooting. Not sure where this 'uneducated' business has come from, I can only assume it's a Freudian slip on your part.

It's not about opinions, it's about facts. a police officer was shot nine times because of another police officer's incompetence. FACT. The police officer that fired his gun was never in danger from the officer he shot. FACT. The Shooter is at fault since he didn't follow procedure. FACT.

Facts are not points of view, Johnny.

I agree, you do assume way before you know the actual truth from every poster in here. It's not a great quality. Maybe re education is something too consider before your next post of nonsense?

[Johnnyuk123]

Dezzy please read your last 50 posts and beyond in here. I rest my case.:thumbs:

[Johnnyuk123]

Once in a while it's nice to say... hi, how are you. Have you had a nice day? Well done etc.. Simple uneducated stuff that helps people to warm to you etc...

[Tom4784]

Messy.

[Ammi]

..there are a few things that I find disturbing with this..obviously as has been said, it's that there was no assessing of the situation, the car doors were closed and the windows blackened so there was no evidence of any threat because nothing inside the car could be seen...no shots had to be fired, he could have held back and kept himself safe and only advanced if a threat came from inside the car...also, I think that it's good and right, the level of compensation from the state that Jacob Grant got but what if the shots hadn't hit him and hit one of the people who were surrendering....(and this must be true that they indeed were because it's what Jacob has said..)...it would be no less an 'unlawful shooting' imo but because they had been involved in criminal activities, I think that's what they (and the incident..)..would have been judged on, that they were 'criminals anyway' so the shots were 'understandable'....I just can't see it being judged in the same way and feel that the compensation was awarded in the extent because it was another police officer....


..another thing that I find worrying is as Girth has said, Greg Brachle was not a rookie cop, he was a Lieutenant and very experienced but the 'hysteria' in his voice is very evident...the Albuquerque Police Department have listed some things that they will enforce because of this they have said and yet, they were all things that were enforced anyway so far as I can see...I mean they would all be pretty 'standard' things that would be expected from a police officer and especially one who carries a loaded gun....so maybe there are huge flaws in (some..)..police departments in general..?....hmmmmm...interesting that there was rioting in the streets in 2014 because of the amount of 'shoot to kills' that had been employed by this police department, so something that has obviously been noted and caused concern...

[lostalex]

It's a shame the tax payers of New Mexico have to foot the bill to pay compensation to this poor guy that got shot, instead of the incompetent cop who did it.

[Mystic Mock]

It's a shame the tax payers of New Mexico have to foot the bill to pay compensation to this poor guy that got shot, instead of the incompetent cop who did it.

How much money do you expect the Incompetent Cop to have?:joker:

[GiRTh]

NYPD Officer Stripped of Gun and Badge After Arresting On-Duty Mailman

The NYPD’s recent arrest of an on-duty mailman who had apparently committed no crime was so revolting that not even the NYPD could stand behind it. Lieutenant Luis Machado, who oversaw the arrest, was stripped of his gun and badge and placed on modified duty, the New York Daily News reports today.

NYPD Cops Cuff On-Duty Mailman for Yelling at Them While He Delivered Mail

According to Glenn Grays, the postal worker who was cuffed, the officers approached him after he shouted at them for nearly hitting his truck with their car. A video of the ensuing scuffle and arrest circulated widely earlier this month.

According to the News, Grays was charged solely with resisting arrest, a favorite catch-22 tactic of combative cops everywhere. If your only crime is resisting the officer who’s trying to arrest you, what were you being arrested for in the first place?

All of the officers involved were removed from the unit in which they worked, and the NYPD Internal Affairs is investigating the incident, the News reports.

LINK (http://gawker.com/nypd-officer-stripped-of-gun-and-badge-after-arresting-1768334180)

Another story of bungling police. Thankfully this time no one was killed.

The postman yelled at an unmarked police car that nearly hit his van so the officers backed up and arrested him. You really cannot make this stuff up.

[GiRTh]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-oversaw-postal-worker-arrest-loses-badge-gun-article-1.2584376

Another link to the story.

Astonishing quote from head of Police Benevolant association Patrick Lynch - “No one ever has the right to resist arrest,” Lynch continued. “Compliance is not optional.”

[waterhog]

makes you thankful our police don't have guns. omg shocking.

[GiRTh]

makes you thankful our police don't have guns. omg shocking.Thank God for video evidence or who knows what might have happened.

[kirklancaster]

As with other subjects - ALL the evidence in the world is not enough to convince some people.

[GiRTh]

As with other subjects - ALL the evidence in the world is not enough to convince some people.
Absolutely true. A further fact, the arrested postman Glen Grays is married to a police officer so I'd assume he knew his rights and how to act around police officers.

EDIt: Sorry engaged to a Police Officer.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/i-dont-hate-cops-im-marrying-one-black-postal-worker-says-after-video-shows-nypd-arresting-him-on-the-job

[lostalex]

How much money do you expect the Incompetent Cop to have?:joker:

i expect him to make hundreds of thousands of dollars in his lifetime, and he should pay it all to the guy he shot.

[Mystic Mock]

i expect him to make hundreds of thousands of dollars in his lifetime, and he should pay it all to the guy he shot.

If his really got that amount of money then go for it I say.:joker:

[Northern Monkey]

This could be from a Police Academy movie.What a mess.

[lostalex]

This could be from a Police Academy movie.What a mess.

considering the pay and risks do you really think any police force is attracting the best and brightest that society has to offer?

[Crimson Dynamo]

*waits for a positive police story..

*waits for those who constantly criticise to call an alternative number to 999 or 911 when they really need to

*basically waits a long time

:idc:

[user104658]

*waits for a positive police story..

*waits for those who constantly criticise to call an alternative number to 999 or 911 when they really need to

*basically waits a long time

:idc:

*waits for LT to stop tromboning any man in a police uniform*

*The oceans dry up, the world turns to a dry husk, life slowly but surely dies out on Planet Earth. The sun begins expanding, engulfing the solar system in fire, before eventually dying and leaving nothing but blackness.*

*LT continues his furious quest in the cold depths of space*

[Crimson Dynamo]

*waits for LT to stop tromboning any man in a police uniform*

*The oceans dry up, the world turns to a dry husk, life slowly but surely dies out on Planet Earth. The sun begins expanding, engulfing the solar system in fire, before eventually dying and leaving nothing but blackness.*

*LT continues his furious quest in the cold depths of space*

:joker:

[Kizzy]

*waits for a positive police story..

*waits for those who constantly criticise to call an alternative number to 999 or 911 when they really need to

*basically waits a long time

:idc:

You will be waiting a long time for, 'policeman does his job well' as that is the standard, in all professions there will be incompetents the police are not infallible, except when they eff up it's not just a misplaced order or a missed deadline..someone is actually dead.
That cannot be ignored.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You will be waiting a long time for, 'policeman does his job well' as that is the standard, in all professions there will be incompetents the police are not infallible, except when they eff up it's not just a misplaced order or a missed deadline..someone is actually dead.
That cannot be ignored.

that is the game they are in and should be taken into account before taking swipes at the toughest profession

We must support and defend the police here and in the USA

[Tom4784]

Someone doing their job properly shouldn't be news, the fact that you think a Police Officer being competent at his job should be news shows how bad the situation is in America atm.

[Niamh.]

that is the game they are in and should be taken into account before taking swipes at the toughest profession

We must support and defend the police here and in the USA

Blindly? Yes it's a tough job but equally it's a job that comes with alot of power over people and you know what wise old Uncle Ben said about that

[Crimson Dynamo]

Blindly? Yes it's a tough job but equally it's a job that comes with alot of power over people and you know what wise old Uncle Ben said about that

Not blindly but with a full understanding of the job, the risks and the human detritus that they have to deal with daily

[Niamh.]

Not blindly but with a full understanding of the job, the risks and the human detritus that they have to deal with daily

Of course but Police Officers are still just people at the end of the day and if it turns out some of them are making stupid errors while holding a lethal weapon in their hands then surely for the benefit of both the public they're serving and the reputation of the ones who are actually good at their jobs, they need to be taken out of the force? Doesn't that make sense? :shrug:

[Tom4784]

that is the game they are in and should be taken into account before taking swipes at the toughest profession

We must support and defend the police here and in the USA

Not when they murder and maim people. Things will never get better when there are people like you who believe people in uniforms are beyond criticism.

[user104658]

Not blindly but with a full understanding of the job, the risks and the human detritus that they have to deal with daily
The vast majority of these incidents in the end come down to errors either through incompetence, or perhaps more often and more worryingly, not incompetence or inability, but simple arrogance, ignoring procedure (which is there for a GOOD REASON) and going off all John McClane. Or even Judge Dredd might be more accurate.

It wouldn't be accepted in any other profession, and if anything, the standards should be even higher when it comes to armed police officers. Not lower.

[Mystic Mock]

Of course but Police Officers are still just people at the end of the day and if it turns out some of them are making stupid errors while holding a lethal weapon in their hands then surely for the benefit of both the public they're serving and the reputation of the ones who are actually good at their jobs, they need to be taken out of the force? Doesn't that make sense? :shrug:

Tbh you've said it all for me Niamh.