WWE Wrestlemania 32 Live Discussion Thread (Midnight GMT Start Time)

[BBfanUSA]

The Card
Preshow Matches

US Title Match
Kalisto(C) vs Ryback

Tag Team Match
Usos vs Dudley Boys

10 Diva Tag Team Match
Total Divas (Paige, Natalya, Brie Bella, Alicia Fox, and Eva Marie) vs Team Blonde and BAD (Naomi, Tamina, Lana, Emma, Summer Rae)

Andre The Giant Battle Royal (20 Man Battle Royal) (Meltzer says it's been moved to the main card but it's been advertised as a Preshow match because the preshow is airing on USA in the States)

Main Card
Seven Man Ladder Match for the Intercontinental Championship
Kevin Owens (C) vs Sami Zayn vs The Miz vs Sin Cara vs Zack Ryder vs Dolph Ziggler vs Stardust

4 on 3 handicap match, Tag Team Titles are not on the line
League of Nations (Sheamus, Rusev, Bad News Barrett, and Alberto Del Rio) vs The New Day (Kofi Kingston, Xavier Woods, and Big E)

Singles Grudge Match
Aj Styles vs Chris Jericho

Singles Street Fight
Brock Lesnar vs Dean Ambrose

Triple Threat Match for the Divas Championship
Charlotte (C) vs Sasha Banks vs Becky Lynch

Hell in a Cell Match, if Shane wins, he gets control of Raw
Undertaker vs Shane McMahon

No DQ Match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H (C) vs Roman Reigns

Despite the build, this should be a great Mania

[Jordan.]

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[Jordan.]

Rewatching WM31 to get in thé mood

[Babayaro.]

Surely 4 matches is too much for a pre-show?

[Black Dagger]

SLAY queen @ Sasha

[LaLaLand]

Cannot wait, but they'll have to do ALOT to top NXT: Dallas on Fri (Nakamura - need I say more?)

According to Wiki the Andre Battle Royal has been moved to the main card and off the preshow now?

REALLY looking forward to the women's match, if these guys perform as they've done down at previous TakeOvers then they could easily steal the show. Would love Becky to finally get her time but I can see Sasha getting it and actually can even see Charlotte retaining tbh (hope not though) so it could go either way...

Super excited.

Not sure if I like the set/stage or not, will have to see it in action:

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[Jordan.]

Honestly wish they'd just scrap the battle royal. I know and it's good for getting all the talent on the card and the first one with Cesaro winning was great but nothing ever came of it and eh. Hopefully something interesting is planned to explain why they moved it on the main show.

[LaLaLand]

Apparently there are a few "big surprises" according to what I think Big Show said on the HOF Red Carpet last night, read into that what you will. Only 16/20 participants have been named so we'll probably get 4 "legends" and/or NXT guys.

[Alf]

My word! that is a weak Wrestlemania card.

Having to wheel out the old Legends like The Undertaker and Triple H to top the bill.

The WWE must be going through a bad patch at the moment.

I most certainly wont be paying for that.


Who got inducted in-to the Hall of fame this year?

[LaLaLand]

My word! that is a weak Wrestlemania card.

Having to wheel out the old Legends like The Undertaker and Triple H to top the bill.

The WWE must be going through a bad patch at the moment.

I most certainly wont be paying for that.


Who got inducted in-to the Hall of fame this year?

They have been plagued with injury in the run up to this 'Mania, John Cena, Randy Orton and many others all out.

The Fabulous Freebirds, Stan Hansen, Snoop Dogg, Jacqueline, Sting, The Godfather, The Big Boss Man and Joan Lunden (Warrior Award) were inducted this time, as well as a special "Legacy Award" celebrating the careers of Mildred Burke, Frank Gotch, George Hackenschmidt, Ed "Strangler" Lewis, Pat O'Connor, Lou Thesz and "Sailor" Art Thomas.

[Alf]

They have been plagued with injury in the run up to this 'Mania, John Cena, Randy Orton and many others all out.

The Fabulous Freebirds, Stan Hansen, Snoop Dogg, Jacqueline, Sting, The Godfather, The Big Boss Man and Joan Lunden (Warrior Award) were inducted this time, as well as a special "Legacy Award" celebrating the careers of Mildred Burke, Frank Gotch, George Hackenschmidt, Ed "Strangler" Lewis, Pat O'Connor, Lou Thesz and "Sailor" Art Thomas.
Thanks

Yeah, I was wondering where Cena and Orton where, and Daniel Bryan having to retire can't of helped, he seemed to be a fans favourite. What are the likes of Batista and CM Punk up-to now?

I would have preferred to see someone new get a chance to main-event instead of Triple H, that way you can find the next big stars.

[LaLaLand]

Thanks

Yeah, I was wondering where Cena and Orton where, and Daniel Bryan having to retire can't of helped, he seemed to be a fans favourite. What are the likes of Batista and CM Punk up-to now?

I would have preferred to see someone new get a chance to main-event instead of Triple H, that way you can find the next big stars.

I know how you feel man! If you haven't been watching, guy who HHH is facing has been forced down our throats basically as the "top face" of the company but audiences just haven't taken to him and he gets boo'd like crazy every single show, so if he wins tonight expect absolute carnage.

Batista is back making movies and CM Punk is now in MMA, he's on terrible terms with WWE, it didn't end well at all, as is his wife and former Diva's Champion AJ Lee.

[Babayaro.]

This is the first Mania i've watched live since 24, so i'm pretty excited to say the least

[Stu]

The build has been **** for years now but 2013 aside (the heartbreaking idea of a show being built around two rematches nobody really wanted to see and a crap undercard with no gimmicks) they almost always deliver on the night. So yeah I'm buzzing like a kid as I always am. NXT will come out having had the better wrestling but guess what I've been following this crap for 16 years and I'm still looking forward to 'Mania more. I like big lads and fireworks and stuff.

I hope Rock at least gets involved in New Days stuff or something, as opposed to just bore the piss out of a toilet with his usual 20 minute social media love and huge scripted promo.

Bursting with joy Becky is a part of this.

[BBfanUSA]

Surely 4 matches is too much for a pre-show?

Preshow is 2 hours for Mania usually, plenty of time to fit all 4 matches.

The card's the way it is because of all of these injuries. They have been pushing younger talent alot lately. It's just all the new talent that are major players are injured or are needed elsewhere (I don't mind Owens on the card but if you want a multiman ladder match, make it MitB, not for the IC.) .

For example, HHH would've been facing Seth Rollins, who tore his ACL around Survivor Series.

Reigns would've been facing Cena

IDK about Shane though but I think he was brought in for emergency purposes.

[Jordan.]

the kick off show starts in 10 mins on the network

[Jordan.]

or youtube!

uFOGwDOUh0A

[LaLaLand]

So excited now!

[Stu]

Wonder how close they'll get to a sell out. No way of telling what the actual figure will be. Even if it's a legit 100,000 which would be amazing they'll say 107,000. Goes to show WrestleMania is the draw in and of itself, injury aside.

They'll 'officially' beat the WrestleMania 3 bull**** attendance even though they beat that bull**** attendance for real with other bull****ted attendances multiple times at this stage.

Yeah wrestling is ****ing weird.

[BBfanUSA]

Dirtsheets said that they're going to be legit over 100,000 a couple weeks ago.

There seems to be a few issues with tickets (they scan them on a Wifi system), which is why there's hardly anyone in there yet.

[Stu]

Strict bag policy, too. They've got plenty of time but Kalisto and Ryback might be scrapping in front of 500 people!

That stadium is so big it's almost vulgar. You could fit one of the other stadiums they've done inside it.

[BBfanUSA]

Lita has a big announcement for the 2nd hour, supposedly is going to be the New WWE Women's Title

[Jordan.]

Lita has a big announcement for the 2nd hour, supposedly is going to be the New WWE Women's Title

hopefully, they should have her present the new belt to the winner :fc:

[Babayaro.]

****ing love Lita

[BBfanUSA]

Strict bag policy, too. They've got plenty of time but Kalisto and Ryback might be scrapping in front of 500 people!

That stadium is so big it's almost vulgar. You could fit one of the other stadiums they've done inside it.

And that megascreen is huuuge. Punters in American Football have been known to hit the bottom of the thing, so they had to raise it higher

[Stu]

The screen is genuinely terrifying looking. Screens shouldn't be that big.

Can't wait to see will Ryback and Kalisto be having this empty arena match. Poor guys.

[Stu]

Jesus that Cathy Kelley is something else. Hit the bricks, Renee!

[Jordan.]

Ryback/Kalisto starting, hopefully he retains

[BBfanUSA]

These matchup vignettes are hot fire

[Jordan.]

thank god, decent match tbf :clap1:

[BBfanUSA]

Great set this year. The lighting will be better later on, Dallas is in the central time zone unlike San Jose so it should get Dark around 7 PM/8 PM

[Stu]

Eva's still got the uncertain scowl of someone that knows they're blowing their first driving lesson out there.

[Jordan.]

Emma :flutter:

[Amy Jade]

Lita :love:

The Diva devision sucks so much, they need to find actual talent and push them like they did with Lita, Trish and Victoria and get rid of the messy talentless hags

I cba with Wrestlemania though, none of the PPV's really interest me anymore but my step brother will be up all night watching haha

[Jordan.]

So that was probably Brie's last match? nice way to end for her

[BBfanUSA]

That was really fun.

Sara Del Rey is one hell of a trainer

[BBfanUSA]

Lita :love:

The Diva devision sucks so much, they need to find actual talent and push them like they did with Lita, Trish and Victoria and get rid of the messy talentless hags

I cba with Wrestlemania though, none of the PPV's really interest me anymore but my step brother will be up all night watching haha

Well that's happening tonight, hell, word is that a new Women's Championship title will be introduced tonight, replacing the Divas Championship

[BBfanUSA]

UPDATE: Lita's in the ring right now to introduce the New Title

[Jordan.]

yaas

[Stu]

That belt kicks hole! Huge signifier the womans champ and WWE champ are on equal footing.

[BBfanUSA]

Yep, just like the rumors.

And it's beautiful

[LaLaLand]

The new Women's Championship is beautiful, such a good move on WWE's part.

[Amy Jade]

About time they paid the Women of the brand some respect :clap2:

[LaLaLand]

And it doesn't look like a TOY! So happy for Becky rn, been a massive fan for years so to see where she's at when at one time I thought I'd seen the last of her after she got injured.

I love Charlotte, Sasha and Becky but if Lynch gets the title I'd be over the moon, she deserves it man.

[Jordan.]

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[LaLaLand]

#TableMania!

[Stu]

About time they paid the Women of the brand some respect :clap2:
They've been in a more prominent position and are of a higher standard in the past year than they've been at any other point in their history.

[Jordan.]

:party:

[Jordan.]

Hope KO retains, gonna be between him and Sami anyway

[Jordan.]

WELP that was unexpected

chances of ryder dropping the belt tomorrow or on the payback preshow?

[LaLaLand]

Such a swerve but I'm not complaining, Zack's great imo

[BBfanUSA]

WELP that was unexpected

chances of ryder dropping the belt tomorrow or on the payback preshow?

He's probably dropping it to Finn Balor in a couple weeks

[Black Dagger]

****ing state of Zack Ryder.

[BBfanUSA]

The faint cries you hear are Dixie Carter's

[Jordan.]

Another one I wouldn't have predicted

[Jordan.]

THAT entrance

[Jordan.]

The fact Barrett is best in this team and he isn't even part of the match :shame:

[BBfanUSA]

This segment is awesome

[Babayaro.]

I spunked when HBK came out

[BBfanUSA]

Now onto the heavy part of the card.

AtGBR
Lesnar vs Ambrose Street Fight (on now)
Women's Championship Triple Threat
Shane vs Undertaker HiaC
WWE WHC

[LaLaLand]

This is going to be absolutely insane!

[Jordan.]

Hoping Ambrose wins but things aren't going the way I want tonight :laugh:

[Jordan.]

What a let down that was...

[LaLaLand]

Wish the chainsaw would have started.

Thought that would have been better than it was or was it just me??

[BBfanUSA]

Basically every pick during the main show for me has been wrong.

So look for Charlotte to retain/win the Women's Championship.

[Jordan.]

Really hope this match lives up to expectations

[Jordan.]

Honestly these results :unsure: great match tho!

[BBfanUSA]

Welp, they're putting every heel over tonight for us hating on Reigns

[LaLaLand]

Bloody amazing match, best Women's Mania match ever.

LOVE Sasha's Guerrero attire too!

[BBfanUSA]

Watch Brie win the title tomorrow, retire, and a new tournament is done to decide a new champ.

[LaLaLand]

That would be an absolutely awful idea and dent credibility immediately... of course it's going to happen :(.

I've been really looking forward to this HIAC - could Shane win?!

[Jordan.]

Shane to win to ensure that womens championship concept never happens!

[LaLaLand]

Forgot all about the Andre match still to come, oops. It's weird that the women aren't in the "Death Spot" between the two big matches...

[LaLaLand]

Random toolbox at the commentary area ha

[Jordan.]

Oh my if he's gonna do this :worry:

[LaLaLand]

OH MY GOD ALMIGHTY he's dead

Taker's face isn't reassuring

[Jordan.]

****ing amazing

[LaLaLand]

Another result I didn't want.

Legit think this Mania has been booked in a way just to anger us all ha #LOLRomanWins

[BBfanUSA]

We're going to get what we want tomorrow anyway I bet.

Either it turns out the Authority brought Shane back in to get Vince out or a bunch of wrestlers threaten to quit if the Authority stays in power.

[Jordan.]

Give him smackdown as a condolence prize

[BBfanUSA]

BARON CORBIN!

[LaLaLand]

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTT hahaha omg!!!

[Jordan.]

Fandango </3

[LaLaLand]

#PushSandow

Thank God Show's out, Mark Henry win? Also Tatanka is in there!!

[LaLaLand]

WOAH did not see that coming!!! Yes Corbin

[Jordan.]

No Rocky yet so is he gonna have something to do with the main event?

[LaLaLand]

He's here!

[Jordan.]

One last chance to put over Reigns

[Black Dagger]

Hope he sets himself on fire tbh.

[BBfanUSA]

Remember, WWE gave companies a warning that the show was set to overrun

[Jordan.]

Yeah idc about this just get to the main event

[LaLaLand]

Is this REALLY necessary? Like just get on with it.

[LaLaLand]

They officially haven't, unless nearly 2000 people bought tickets 5 minutes before they went live at the arena... :laugh:

[Jordan.]

That announcement definitely needed that 15 minute flame thrower entrance

[LaLaLand]

We're saved (ish)

[Jordan.]

This just keeps getting worse

[LaLaLand]

Oh fgs just retire.

[Jordan.]

Wyatts forever getting buried

[LaLaLand]

Queen Stephanie!

[Jordan.]

Steph getting in on the entrance :clap1:

[LaLaLand]

Those boos... he will win, and Texas will implode.

[Jordan.]

Wish HHH would just keep the belt until Rollins returns

[LaLaLand]

Same here. Thank God for this crowd though, the back and forth cheers/boos are keeping me interested.

Can't imagine the volume of boos at the end if the inevitable happens...

[LaLaLand]

This match is slow af, feel like they need rockets up their asses!

[Jordan.]

Yes Steph cost the match

[LaLaLand]

HAHAH okay that was epic!

[Jordan.]

Omg lol

[LaLaLand]

She sold the hell out of that, love her

[LaLaLand]

There you have it. When they gonna listen eh?!

[Jordan.]

Just feel meh about Reigns being champ really, not too bothered.

[Jordan.]

Triple Threat and the HIAC were the only matches I really enjoyed.

[LaLaLand]

I'm feeling "meh" overall about this Mania, just felt like it never "went there" apart from Shane/Taker.

Biggest disappointment has to be Lesnar/Ambrose for me.

IC Title and Women my top matches I think.

[Jordan.]

Yeah I don't know wtf went wrong with the Lesnar/Ambrose match, probably the worst of the night

[LaLaLand]

Hopefully RAW can sort of save it, few nice debuts perhaps and some turns, we'll see.

[BBfanUSA]

Hopefully RAW can sort of save it, few nice debuts perhaps and some turns, we'll see.

I fully expect a couple twists.

If WM is the season finale, The Post Mania Raw is the Season Premiere

[Black Dagger]

It was a 'good' Mania, just the booking decisions. Bar Big Banter Corbin winning (and Reigns bc I like him) were ridiculous. If Owens, Sasha and Shane won, it'd have been a 9/10 event for me.

It just didn't have that MOTYC on it either which lets it down. The ladies did great but I don't think they'll get that recognition in the Summer, let alone in December.

[Brother Leon]

Shane stealing the show as always>>

[Tarryn]

It was an average show.
The women's title match was the best thing about it.
What was Stephanie wearing, it was truly awful :conf:
Shane as usual was fantastic.
So sad the Ambrose/Brock match was a let down.
Let's hope as usual the Raw after Wrestlemania is much better.