London : Female teacher, 27, who had sex with a 16-year-old boy faces jail

[arista]

If this was a Male Teacher
aged 27 who was having sex with a 16 year old girl
it would be on the Main News
Fact


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/20/15/335E746D00000578-3549878-image-a-169_1461163968987.jpg
[Lauren Cox, 27, (pictured) is facing
jail after she embarked on
a six-month relationship
with a teenage schoolboy]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549878/Female-teacher-27-sex-16-year-old-boy-faces-jail-admitting-six-month-relationship-child.html#ixzz46OL3vUY0



[She appeared at Croydon Crown Court today, where she admitted
five charges of sexual activity with a boy aged between 13 and 17 while in a position of trust.]

pedophile bitch

[smudgie]

If this was a Male Teacher
aged 27 who was having sex with a 16 year old girl
it would be on the Main News
Fact


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/20/15/335E746D00000578-3549878-image-a-169_1461163968987.jpg
[Lauren Cox, 27, (pictured) is facing
jail after she embarked on
a six-month relationship
with a teenage schoolboy]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549878/Female-teacher-27-sex-16-year-old-boy-faces-jail-admitting-six-month-relationship-child.html#ixzz46OL3vUY0



[She appeared at Croydon Crown Court today, where she admitted
five charges of sexual activity with a boy aged between 13 and 17 while in a position of trust.]

pedophile bitch

13 and 17years of age..:fist: Throw that ruddy key away once she is locked up.

[arista]

Yes having sex with a 13 year old lad
is So Wrong

[Alf]

Her middle name is Sux

[Mystic Mock]

If this was a Male Teacher
aged 27 who was having sex with a 16 year old girl
it would be on the Main News
Fact


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/20/15/335E746D00000578-3549878-image-a-169_1461163968987.jpg
[Lauren Cox, 27, (pictured) is facing
jail after she embarked on
a six-month relationship
with a teenage schoolboy]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549878/Female-teacher-27-sex-16-year-old-boy-faces-jail-admitting-six-month-relationship-child.html#ixzz46OL3vUY0



[She appeared at Croydon Crown Court today, where she admitted
five charges of sexual activity with a boy aged between 13 and 17 while in a position of trust.]

pedophile bitch

What teenager would want to go with her?

But yeah hopefully she'll get a really long sentence.

[the truth]

13?

[Denver]

Can a 13 year old get it up?

[Niamh.]

Disgusting :/

[arista]

Can a 13 year old get it up?


Yes

[user104658]

It's the charge that's specifying the age range "13 to 17", i.e. to differentiate from 18+ (an adult) and 12 or under (a child).

The boy was 16, not 13. If she wasn't his teacher, it would be legal... although, still pretty weird... but anyway. The crime she is guilty of is abusing a position of trust as a teacher; which, YES, is bad and something that she deserves to be charged for.

However, because of the ambiguous way the article is written, she will probably end up branded as a "paedo" or similar... which is just bull****.

[the truth]

some 13 yr old boys get raging boners all the time, i know i did
lets face it she is stunning looking, albeit a sick pervert

[the truth]

Yes

lol

[Niamh.]

It's the charge that's specifying the age range "13 to 17", i.e. to differentiate from 18+ (an adult) and 12 or under (a child).

The boy was 16, not 13. If she wasn't his teacher, it would be legal... although, still pretty weird... but anyway. The crime she is guilty of is abusing a position of trust as a teacher; which, YES, is bad and something that she deserves to be charged for.

However, because of the ambiguous way the article is written, she will probably end up branded as a "paedo" or similar... which is just bull****.

Which imo is really serious, parents send their kids to school thinking that they are safe not that they're going to be preyed upon by their teachers. It's a horrific abuse of a position of such trust

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hope they hammer her and send out a message to all teachers that this is a heinous crime against children

[Cherie]

Which imo is really serious, parents send their kids to school thinking that they are safe not that they're going to be preyed upon by their teachers. It's a horrific abuse of a position of such trust

It is :clap2:

[Mystic Mock]

some 13 yr old boys get raging boners all the time, i know i did
lets face it she is stunning looking, albeit a sick pervert

She has a man's face in my view.:laugh:

The paedo Teacher a couple of months back looked better imo.

[the truth]

She has a man's face in my view.:laugh:

The paedo Teacher a couple of months back looked better imo.

Thats not a mans face, beautiful eyes, succulent kissable lips and from the other photos a heaving bosom too,....but shes still a sick paedo bitch

[Jack_]

I agree with TS to an extent, he was 16...he consented...he can do as he pleases. Nothing to see here

I've always found this 'position of trust' stuff to be BS, nah sorry once someone's reached the age of consent they can do what they like, with who they like, when they like

[Crimson Dynamo]

I agree with TS to an extent, he was 16...he consented...he can do as he pleases. Nothing to see here

I've always found this 'position of trust' stuff to be BS, nah sorry once someone's reached the age of consent they can do what they like, with who they like, when they like

jack what on earth?

[Jack_]

jack what on earth?

What's the issue? They are both of age and both consenting. If this woman wasn't a teacher no one - other than those who strangely have issues with age gaps - would care. So why is it any different just because she's a teacher? I actually think it's both incredibly patronising and contradictory that on the one hand there's this assumption that age 16 people are suddenly capable of giving consent and being in control of their own body, but on the other hand if it's their teacher they're being used and abused :shrug: perhaps someone who is of age is perfectly capable of understanding what their relationship with their teacher is but is still happy enough to consent?

I have never and will never understand this bizarre kink in the law

[user104658]

Which imo is really serious, parents send their kids to school thinking that they are safe not that they're going to be preyed upon by their teachers. It's a horrific abuse of a position of such trust

I'm not saying it isn't, just that its a very different story still (with very different motivations) if he HAD been 13... it's not an irrelevant detail - an adult being attracted to a 16 year old is at least biologically not that strange. An adult being attracted to a 13 year old has some serious problems. In other words, with a 16 year old it's an abuse of power / trust issue - with a 13 year old it's a much deeper issue.

On the other hand, I do agree with Jack that there's a strange logic at play with these cases... which is; is a 16 year old mature enough to give full and informed consent, or not? On the one hand, legally, we say they are "in most situations"... but then on the other, we're saying that they could be controlled / manipulated by a person in a position of power, rendering their consent void. If the latter is true, then it can only be the case that 16 year olds should NOT be considered capable of full consent?

I personally am fully aware that many 16 year olds are far too naive and vulnerable to really be considered capable of full consent to sex with a "proper" adult. I've always advocated a tiered system of age differences to cut some of the anomalies out of the law (35 year olds having sex with 16 year olds being totally fine, while a 16-and-one-month year old could be charged for having sex with their 15-and-11-months year old girlfriend)...

Anyway, it goes like this:

13 and under - no consent

14 - not illegal with another 14 year old or a 15 year old (but should not be encouraged)

15 - as above with 14 year old, has full consent with 15-16 year olds

16 - Full consent with anyone aged between 15 and 21

17 - Full consent with anyone aged between 16 and 21

18-19-20-21 - Full consent with anyone aged 16 or over (up to any age)

22+ - Full consent with anyone aged 18 or over (up to any age)



...OK so you'd need to bust out the rule book before sex, but I think it makes thing morally much better. 14 the absolute legal baseline but only with another roughly the same age, a bit more leeway once you hit 16/17 allowing up to 21 taking "real adults" (and notably, teachers) out of the equation, and then full consent moving up to 18. IMO, at 18, consent should genuinely be FULL, i.e. if an 18 year old is still at school and wants to have sex with a teacher, that is their business. The only problem would be if bribery, blackmail or coercion was involved, but that can happen at ANY age (company bosses with young adult staff members, etc.) and is a form of rape so age of consent isn't the issue.

[Niamh.]

What's the issue? They are both of age and both consenting. If this woman wasn't a teacher no one - other than those who strangely have issues with age gaps - would care. So why is it any different just because she's a teacher? I actually think it's both incredibly patronising and contradictory that on the one hand there's this assumption that age 16 people are suddenly capable of giving consent and being in control of their own body, but on the other hand if it's their teacher they're being used and abused :shrug: perhaps someone who is of age is perfectly capable of understanding what their relationship with their teacher is but is still happy enough to consent?

I have never and will never understand this bizarre kink in the law

I really don't want to sound patronizing here Jack, I promise, but I seriously think that until you actually have kids yourself you won't fully understand why a teacher shouldn't be allowed to go into school and pick up their students. When I was your age I would probably have thought the same way as you do and again that isn't meant to come across in a condescending way at all, I just don't think you fully see the problems with this sort of thing until you're properly out of that age bracket.

I have a 16 year old daughter, she's doing exams etc at the moment, I'm worried about boys her own age, to actually have to send her to school and worry about a full grown adult with power over her also would just be horrific. I'd probably end up sending her to a school with no male teachers if it were perfectly fine for full grown adults in a position of power to be able to pursue school kids in a sexual way

[user104658]

I really don't want to sound patronizing here Jack, I promise, but I seriously think that until you actually have kids yourself you won't fully understand why a teacher shouldn't be allowed to go into school and pick up their students. When I was your age I would probably have thought the same way as you do and again that isn't meant to come across in a condescending way at all, I just don't think you fully see the problems with this sort of thing until you're properly out of that age bracket.

I have a 16 year old daughter, she's doing exams etc at the moment, I'm worried about boys her own age, to actually have to send her to school and worry about a full grown adult with power over her also would just be horrific. I'd probably end up sending her to a school with no male teachers if it were perfectly fine for full grown adults in a position of power to be able to pursue school kids in a sexual way
I agree but this is what makes me wonder about the age of consent, full stop. If kids at 16 aren't capable of protecting themselves in some situations then, surely, the same applies in every situation be it teachers or not - and therefore, I'm dubious about it being legal for teens to consent with full adults at all.

Then again, I have to wonder... Will you feel any differently when your daughter is 18 compared to 16? I doubt it's any different for a parent. My wife's younger sister is 20 and she STILL seems very naive to be honest - and this is a girl who was drinking / smoking / having sex at 14 and ran away to live with us for 4 months... Not someone who was wrapped in cotton wool.

Not sure what my point is there really. Just that 18 year olds can still find themselves in these situations with people who have authority of some sort or other over them. So I guess the important part is making sure young people are aware and prepared for those sorts of situations in general?

[Beso]

we used to have sex with the teachers all the time when i was at school.

[Mystic Mock]

I agree with TS to an extent, he was 16...he consented...he can do as he pleases. Nothing to see here

I've always found this 'position of trust' stuff to be BS, nah sorry once someone's reached the age of consent they can do what they like, with who they like, when they like

She could give him a higher grade in tests just for his tools down below.:laugh:

[Cherie]

I really don't want to sound patronizing here Jack, I promise, but I seriously think that until you actually have kids yourself you won't fully understand why a teacher shouldn't be allowed to go into school and pick up their students. When I was your age I would probably have thought the same way as you do and again that isn't meant to come across in a condescending way at all, I just don't think you fully see the problems with this sort of thing until you're properly out of that age bracket.

I have a 16 year old daughter, she's doing exams etc at the moment, I'm worried about boys her own age, to actually have to send her to school and worry about a full grown adult with power over her also would just be horrific. I'd probably end up sending her to a school with no male teachers if it were perfectly fine for full grown adults in a position of power to be able to pursue school kids in a sexual way


:clap2:

[Cherie]

I agree with TS to an extent, he was 16...he consented...he can do as he pleases. Nothing to see here

I've always found this 'position of trust' stuff to be BS, nah sorry once someone's reached the age of consent they can do what they like, with who they like, when they like

Have you ever heard of safeguarding?, yes it might be "just legal" for her to enter into a relationship with a 16 year old if she wasn't his teacher, her job changes everything

[bots]

You don't have doctors having relationships with patients .... no matter what their age. Its a trust thing, its a professional ethics things ... and it applies equally to teachers

[arista]

You don't have doctors having relationships with patients .... no matter what their age. Its a trust thing, its a professional ethics things ... and it applies equally to teachers


Bang On Right

[Mystic Mock]

The only thing that I'll say is couldn't they just sack her from her job instead of sending her to jail?

[Niamh.]

I agree but this is what makes me wonder about the age of consent, full stop. If kids at 16 aren't capable of protecting themselves in some situations then, surely, the same applies in every situation be it teachers or not - and therefore, I'm dubious about it being legal for teens to consent with full adults at all.

Then again, I have to wonder... Will you feel any differently when your daughter is 18 compared to 16? I doubt it's any different for a parent. My wife's younger sister is 20 and she STILL seems very naive to be honest - and this is a girl who was drinking / smoking / having sex at 14 and ran away to live with us for 4 months... Not someone who was wrapped in cotton wool.

Not sure what my point is there really. Just that 18 year olds can still find themselves in these situations with people who have authority of some sort or other over them. So I guess the important part is making sure young people are aware and prepared for those sorts of situations in general?

Yeah, absolutely agree with you and I liked your idea on the last page there of the different levels on consent

It's obviously impossible to protect your kids from everything but my point is that you should atleast feel that they're safe in school from the ones who are supposed to be guiding them

we used to have sex with the teachers all the time when i was at school.

:shocked:

She could give him a higher grade in tests just for his tools down below.:laugh:

I know this is a jokey post but it's right as well and what if the teacher and student had a falling out or the student didn't want to be involved with the teacher anymore? The teacher is in charge of that student in class, they could make their life hell as well

[Redway]

What's the issue? They are both of age and both consenting. If this woman wasn't a teacher no one - other than those who strangely have issues with age gaps - would care. So why is it any different just because she's a teacher? I actually think it's both incredibly patronising and contradictory that on the one hand there's this assumption that age 16 people are suddenly capable of giving consent and being in control of their own body, but on the other hand if it's their teacher they're being used and abused :shrug: perhaps someone who is of age is perfectly capable of understanding what their relationship with their teacher is but is still happy enough to consent?

I have never and will never understand this bizarre kink in the law

I've never had kids of my own either but I'm with Niamh 100%. Teachers are in a position of trust in any case and it's not as if being 16 makes you magically develop adult maturity. I wouldn't want my teenage kid being taken advantage of by someone who's literally paid to know better.

[the truth]

she will get a far more lenient sentence than any man doing the same crime, women always get more lenient sentences in sexist an hating uk