Russell Brand is discriminating

[expat]

Russel Brand is discriminating and is no better than the goody and chav bunches out there. He is appealing to one type of mind when he introduces so much perversion. What about the rest of Britain who appreciates tasteful humour. Whom do you see when you speak to us through that TV Russell? You obviously don't respect us. Speak to us as you would having a normal conversation with Shilpa or Germaine or is it that you really believe you are communicating only with a bunch of sexually explicit dimwits. If you have summed us up as that then you are no better than Jade and her bunch making vast generalizations. We have seen what comes from this. Speak to the nation with humour and respect and the nation will give you back this in return. It's like a father and son relationship. What you expect from him, he will ultimately produce. What sort of contribution do you want to make to us as a nation? I implore you to make a sound investment adn if you don't care about this generation, care about the next. Or can you........?

[Ruth]

To be fair though - doen't everyone actually appeal to one type of mind? Nobody can be liked by everyone.

[expat]

Ruth, you musn't be 'comfortably numb'

[Ruth]

:puzzled::puzzled:

It's the name of one of my favourite songs!

[expat]

Ruth, go check out the real meaning of your name and live by it

[Ruth]

I know what Ruth means. And I really don't need advice on how to live my life, thanks.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by expat
Russel Brand is discriminating and is no better than the goody and chav bunches out there. He is appealing to one type of mind when he introduces so much perversion. What about the rest of Britain who appreciates tasteful humour. Whom do you see when you speak to us through that TV Russell? You obviously don't respect us. Speak to us as you would having a normal conversation with Shilpa or Germaine or is it that you really believe you are communicating only with a bunch of sexually explicit dimwits. If you have summed us up as that then you are no better than Jade and her bunch making vast generalizations. We have seen what comes from this. Speak to the nation with humour and respect and the nation will give you back this in return. It's like a father and son relationship. What you expect from him, he will ultimately produce. What sort of contribution do you want to make to us as a nation? I implore you to make a sound investment adn if you don't care about this generation, care about the next. Or can you........?

Well I think Russell's sexual humour tries to appeal to all people. Without sex, none of us would be here, its nothing to be ashamed of and the taste of the show is strictly 'late-night adult' with the assumption we are mature enough to not get upset by a little smut. You have to remember, Big Mouth is a debate show and Russell plays an important part in keeping the controversy to hand, so that the audience are alive and responsive with their statements of condemnation and righteousness.

You compare Russell to the 'girls' in the house but I say youre wrong, however, if you dont like him thats your prerogative. Personally, I think he does a stellar job.

[GiRTh]

I like him. His humour is crude but his imagination is amazing. I'd like to hear his version of the Aristocrats joke.

[expat]

Oh, I forgot, Great minds think alike. Sorry. please continue as before

[Ruth]

Don't you like it when people disagree with you?

I don't think you can judge someone by the fact that they like Russell Brand.

[expat]

But I never said I didn't like Russell Brand.

[Ruth]

Fair enough. But if you read your original post on this thread, you can see why people might think that you don't!

[expat]

I may not like what people are doing but I hate no one. Russell is loved by someone greater than I.
And this is for HItman---- If this is your idea of 'stellar', your stars are very low down in the stratosphere.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by expat
I may not like what people are doing but I hate no one. Russell is loved by someone greater than I.
And this is for HItman---- If this is your idea of 'stellar', your stars are very low down in the stratosphere.

Tell me expat, were you in the army?

[expat]

No brother, but I am definitely in one now. Most of the time on the frontline. Peace and love

[Red Moon]

[b]Members are respectfully reminded to discuss the topic and not each other.

Red

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by expat
No brother, but I am definitely in one now. Most of the time on the frontline. Peace and love

OK answer me one more question. If Russell doesnt do a 'stellar' job of compering the debate show, doing the necessary things to keep debate vivid and running smoothly, how could it be done better, and WHO would you give the job to?

Bare in mind you have to keep the 18-30s tuning in.

[expat]

Sorry Red moon,, I respect your authority. Love the avatar. It has such a calming effect. \Imagine big brother is just a tiny dot there and so many conflicts of different types and textures are taking place all over the world.

[Sophii3x]

Nah Russel is hilarious

[expat]

You seem to underestimate the talent out there. of course we could do and x factor type special t get the right person but I'm all for using the same talented individual with some changes to the texts. We should not hearken to the voice of a cheap consumer society where when soomething needs repairing we simply throw it out and get a new one. We ought to let things run the true staying course of their lives. Isn't life about changing and improvement. This is the reason why so many relationships break up. Unwilling to give chances selfishly.

[abs]

do 30+ actually watch russel with their teenage kids? & visa verca?

he should tone it imho

[expat]

Please don't get me wrong. I'm all for humour , creativity etc. but would you like your kids and young people around you to adopt this manner of speaking and laugh about it, especially young ladies. if you agree with it then don't knock girls like danielle jo adn jade when you are defending the same values for your daughters, grandkids, etc

[The_Hitman]

I like an outlet for things such as vulgarity and slightly distasteful humour so that i dont need to incorporate it into my own life so much. If Russell wasnt on TV talking filth to make some of us laugh, our nature would make us think it up ourselves and SAY IT ourselves, because no-one else had. The admirable thing about Russell's style is his skill for language and his good nature. Russell's a good soul and he sends that message out to millions of people every show, but still you want to convert him into some sort of CITV kiddies presenter. I disagree with you expat, I like diversity.

[expat]

Nice attempt at an argument but too watery. Don't you think?

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by expat
Nice attempt at an argument but too watery. Don't you think?

Not really. I think youre a bit watery, to be fair, but I certainly dont hold it against you.

[expat]

Having another stellar experience hitman?

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by expat
Having another stellar experience hitman?

Errmm.....not really. Im just trying to discuss things, despite your contradictions and hypocritical theories, but if youre on a crusade to besmirch the name of a good entertainer, Im afraid I just dont have the time to keep up with you all day. Im sure someone else will take up my stance should you choose to persist.

[easypeasy]

Originally posted by GRiT
I like him. His humour is crude but his imagination is amazing. I'd like to hear his version of the Aristocrats joke. hehe i just spat a mouthful of cheese and onion pastie out laughing at the thought of what that would entail......:thumbs:

[GiRTh]

Russell has a style that makes the show unique. He often stuggles to control the crowd and perhaps he needs to work on that. The show is what it is and if Russell toned it down it would lose it's appeal.

He's crude but he was before he did BBBM. When Channel4 decided to appoint him they knew what they were getting and clearly it was the direction they wanted to go. Why do you have problem with it?

[expat]

Sorry Hitman I didn't realize that you were genuinely being 'entertained' by Russells dinkle girations and exploits. Sorry, so sorry

[easypeasy]

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by expat
Having another stellar experience hitman?

Errmm.....not really. Im just trying to discuss things, despite your contradictions and hypocritical theories, but if youre on a crusade to besmirch the name of a good entertainer, Im afraid I just dont have the time to keep up with you all day. Im sure someone else will take up my stance should you choose to persist. Im just going to ignore the brussell vendetta and hopefully watch expat's threads sink. :joker:

[expat]

Becareful that you don't become a dinkle. You know what they say. you are what you eat.

[easypeasy]

nothing wrong with a bit of guy on guy action, mr homophobe.........

[The_Hitman]

CITIN!

[InTheHood]

I think anything and anyone can be turned into 'discriminating' depending on how people wish to perceive things.

I mean, if I applied for BB and didn't get in, could I then stamp my feet like a big baby and say "They are anti Dutch-Surinamese"? Of course not!

If BB offends people, there is always Nickelodeon to tune in too.

[expat]

And the irony is the same gorgeous woman that you and I rooted for to winn BB wouldn't give you a second thought after learning of your perverse media inclinations or what you deem as entertainment. let's face facts here. She'll ultimately go for a 'real prince'.

[easypeasy]

Originally posted by expat
And the irony is the same gorgeous woman that you and I rooted for to winn BB wouldn't give you a second thought after learning of your perverse media inclinations or what you deem as entertainment. let's face facts here. She'll ultimately go for a 'real prince'. so she'd give you a second glance? dream on.....

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by expat
And the irony is the same gorgeous woman that you and I rooted for to winn BB wouldn't give you a second thought after learning of your perverse media inclinations or what you deem as entertainment. let's face facts here. She'll ultimately go for a 'real prince'.

Oh dear lord, youre claiming Id have no chance with Shilpa cause im not a 'real prince'?? I wish id never got into this 'conversation'. :puzzled:

[expat]

You are assuming I am male.

[easypeasy]

you are assuming we give a ****........

[Slartibartfast]

You can't say someone is being discriminatory just cos they are involved in a television program that you don't like or approve of or that isn't targeted at your particular demographic. Thats not discrimination. Fortunately, we live in a relatively free democracy where the freedom of expression is protected under the law.

You ask the question: "What about the rest of Britain who appreciates tasteful humour." Easy answer to that, watch something else. No one forces you to watch Russell, for those who appreciate more tasteful humour there's alway Last of the Summer Wine and it's ilk.

I don't like Russell, I just don't find him to be that funny. But he's entitled to say and do what he wants (as long as Channel 4 keep putting him on!!), if you don't like it, don't watch. As for kids, they shouldn't be watching it, simple as that. Too much censorship is permitted in the name of protecting children, disgusts me, it's the parents who should be called up on that not TV.

Are you Mary Whitehouse by the way?

[expat]

So you are saying that big brother should only be viewed by chaves and perves and perve lovers??????? Not the rest of decent society, local and foreign???? That's so sad. THat reality is only open to 'certain' people

[expat]

The true colours of the Shilpa fans is emerging. Not a very nice sight

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by expat
So you are saying that big brother should only be viewed by chaves and perves and perve lovers??????? Not the rest of decent society, local and foreign???? That's so sad. THat reality is only open to 'certain' people

No, in fact that's the opposite of what I'm saying. Anyone can watch whatever they like, including BB and BBBM. But if they don't like it, why watch it?

You might prefer to have a different host, but thats a matter of your preference and has nothing to do with discrimination. Hell, I'd prefer a different host for BBBM, but that doesn't mean I'm being discriminated against. I just watch something else (South Park is always on the same time, and I'd rather watch that any day)

EDIT: Oh and believe me, I am not a fan of Shilpa.

Still waiting on the answer to my Mary Whitehouse question. Or you do you not want to reveal yourself, Mrs Whitehouse :bored:

[expat]

poppywoggle

[easypeasy]

Originally posted by expat
So you are saying that big brother should only be viewed by chaves and perves and perve lovers??????? Not the rest of decent society, local and foreign???? That's so sad. THat reality is only open to 'certain' people big brother can be watched by anybody, big brothers little brother can be watched by anybody and allows people to air their views.
Big mouth is for adults who have an adult point of view of the big brother franchise, a lot of people watch it and a lo of people enjoy it. If you dont like it then dont watch it, but dont preach to us trying to lay on some kind of superiority complex that you evidently have. If its too rude for you stick to "little brother".

[Ruth]

Originally posted by expat
The true colours of the Shilpa fans is emerging. Not a very nice sight

What exactly is the problem? I have a feeling that you might be trying to wind people up on here. Just because someone likes Russell Brand does not mean that they are going to go round being a pervert or being nasty to people. There are programs I like and programs I don't like - I simply don't bother watching something I don't enjoy.

Oh, and I'm not a Shilpa fan either.

[expat]

What adult point of view. Are you saying that kids adn teens should not have an opinion on societal matters. The points of view on BBBM are not strictly 'adult' Oh my, oh my, please think before you speak.

[easypeasy]

sometimes the rules on this board are a bind...... #bites tongue#

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by expat
poppywoggle

Ah, a high point of the thread. I considered your argument and the reasons you advanced for holding it, but ultimately I just couldn't accept your assertions.

Mainly cos "poppywoggle" is a nonsense word. :bored:

[expat]

I'm creative. There you go . you see, another slight on creativity. lighten up

[GiRTh]

I can't believe expat is still winding people up on this thread. Let me sum it up really quickly.

BBBM is what it is and Russell is the main reason for the style of the show. Channel 4 would not have hired him if they did not want his type of humour on the show. Asking him to tone it down would make the show worse.

I read somewhere that he may be quitting so expat may get his/her wish.

[expat]

I don't endorse quitting. I would like to see positive change. Channel 4 really wants to see a better society, hence the perversity. Thank you channel 4 for having such well chosen scrump for people to watch. That's what you think of us. All is revealed.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by expat
I'm creative. There you go . you see, another slight on creativity. lighten up

Another slight on creativity!!! :shocked:

For one, typing "poppywoggle" hardly constitutes creativity.

And aren't you the one attempting to repress creativity with your demands that all TV shows should fit your particular moral view???

Isn't Russell's quickwitted responses and illustrative monologues the very epitome of creativity???