Woman Sent Home For Refusing To Wear Heels

[arista]

She was once a star in Dr.Who , no less


This seems Wrong
let the Lady have the shoes she wants


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/5/11/464886/default/v1/cegrab-20160511-180956-555-1-736x414.jpg

[A woman is petitioning the Government
to overhaul workplace laws after
claiming she was sent home without
pay for refusing to wear high heels.
Nicola Thorp, 27, was employed
by a temp agency, Portico,
to work as a receptionist
at PwC's London office.
She says she turned up to work
on her first day wearing flat shoes,
but was told she needed
to wear heels.
When she challenged the policy,
she says she was sent home without pay.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1694262/woman-sent-home-for-refusing-to-wear-heels

[_Tom_]

Studies have shown that wearing high heels places excess pressure on the back and feet. I think the company should be brought into the 21st century.

[Niamh.]

8 hours a day of hell, I hate wearing heels, as long as she's looks smart it shouldn't matter that she chooses a flat shoe, ridiculous

[Shaun]

I can't imagine how boring you'd have to be to care about a woman's choice of footwear.

[Tom4784]

It's stupid and I hope it works out well for her in the end.

[Mokka]

I'm all for enforcing heels for a dress code... as long as the men have to wear them too :hee:

[Marsh.]

Maybe she was too short to see over the reception desk?

[RichardG]

no one would even see her shoes if she's behind the reception lol

[Pete.]

Justice for Clara's ma?

[arista]

Maybe she was too short to see over the reception desk?


She is Not short

[Marsh.]

Did you know that women wear high heels to make the buttocks and breasts more prominent?

Look...
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/bigbangtheory/images/b/b3/Amy_and_her_heels.gif

[Mokka]

Did you know that women wear high heels to make the buttocks and breasts more prominent?

Look...
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/bigbangtheory/images/b/b3/Amy_and_her_heels.gif

me teas

[andybigbro]

So ridiculous

[Crimson Dynamo]

heels certainly make a woman's legs prettier, that is a fact

and i can see why a receptionist is the face or the company and if she is wearing Birkenstocks its not a good look.

Im not sure why heels are any different to a suit, i mean would people be moaning if it was about wearing a business suit or a shell suit?

[Marsh.]

Im not sure why heels are any different to a suit, i mean would people be moaning if it was about wearing a business suit or a shell suit?

How an earth is that a comparison? :laugh:

What is so bad about wearing flat shoes to work? She's not asked to wear trainers.

[Samm]

Im not sure why heels are any different to a suit, i mean would people be moaning if it was about wearing a business suit or a shell suit?

Suits are not worn on the feet? So there is a difference.

[joeysteele]

Absolutely pathetic of the Company.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Suits are not worn on the feet? So there is a difference.

why are feet some sort of different thing? :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

what is she wanted to wear a bobble hat?


every company on earth would say no

[Crimson Dynamo]

what she wears IS very important to a top company

fact

[Kizzy]

if all the blokes came in heels I would, till then jog on....in heels.

[Jake.]

heels certainly make a woman's legs prettier, that is a fact

and i can see why a receptionist is the face or the company and if she is wearing Birkenstocks its not a good look.

Im not sure why heels are any different to a suit, i mean would people be moaning if it was about wearing a business suit or a shell suit?

well blokes can walk and work in a suit with no pain, so I wouldn't say that's the same thing. being made to wear shoes which blister your heals/are uncomfortable to wear is a more apt comparison

[bots]

She signed up to and accepted their dress code which included wearing heels. We can argue the toss all day if its necessary as a dress code or not, but she agreed to it, so has no basis for moaning when they tell her to go home for not wearing them

[Niamh.]

heels certainly make a woman's legs prettier, that is a fact

and i can see why a receptionist is the face or the company and if she is wearing Birkenstocks its not a good look.

Im not sure why heels are any different to a suit, i mean would people be moaning if it was about wearing a business suit or a shell suit?

So she should be forced to wear heels so her legs look sexier? um no. You can wear smart flat shoes just as easily

[Crimson Dynamo]

She signed up to and accepted their dress code which included wearing heels. We can argue the toss all day if its necessary as a dress code or not, but she agreed to it, so has no basis for moaning when they tell her to go home for not wearing them

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So she should be forced to wear heels so her legs look sexier? um no. You can wear smart flat shoes just as easily

I would wager that it is deemed more professional by the company and that is an image they wish to adopt

[Niamh.]

heels certainly make a woman's legs prettier, that is a fact

and i can see why a receptionist is the face or the company and if she is wearing Birkenstocks its not a good look.

Im not sure why heels are any different to a suit, i mean would people be moaning if it was about wearing a business suit or a shell suit?

She signed up to and accepted their dress code which included wearing heels. We can argue the toss all day if its necessary as a dress code or not, but she agreed to it, so has no basis for moaning when they tell her to go home for not wearing them

No offence but as you are both men I assume you've never had to endure 8 hours of heel wearing, come back to me when you have. I do find it funny that the only two members here supporting forcing a woman to wear uncomfortable shoes at work are men aswell. Wearing uncomfortable shoes doesn't compare with wearing a suit or shirt or whatever

[Livia]

I always wear heels. That's my choice. No one should ever be forced into wearing something they don't want to wear. Of course the men in this company aren't forced to wear heels so if they want the women to, they're going to have to time warp back to the 1950s.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No offence but as you are both men I assume you've never had to endure 8 hours of heel wearing, come back to me when you have. I do find it funny that the only two members here supporting forcing a woman to wear uncomfortable shoes at work are men aswell. Wearing uncomfortable shoes doesn't compare with wearing a suit or shirt or whatever

they cant be that uncomfy as women wear them all the time and spend a fortune on them

[Niamh.]

they cant be that uncomfy as women wear them all the time and spend a fortune on them

They're really uncomfortable, I rarely if ever wear them and when I do they're the fatter ones because the others hurt my feet too much. Why do you suppose at weddings etc 90% of the women end up walking around in bare feet or bring a flat pair in their bags by the time the dinner is over? Because they hurt like a mother****er that's why :hee:

eta : I never, ever wear heels to work

[DemolitionRed]

High heels alter your posture and compromise the natural curve or your spine. If a woman wants to take the risk of permanently shortening her calf muscles and put stress on her vertebrae that could inevitably lead to disc flattening and stenosis, that's up to her but only she must be allowed to make that sacrifice.

[Niamh.]

I always wear heels. That's my choice. No one should ever be forced into wearing something they don't want to wear. Of course the men in this company aren't forced to wear heels so if they want the women to, they're going to have to time warp back to the 1950s.

:clap2:

I challenge LT and BOTS to walk around in heels for a whole day and see how much they love it. Their legs will look amazing though I'm sure :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:clap2:

I challenge LT and BOTS to walk around in heels for a whole day and see how much they love it. Their legs will look amazing though I'm sure :hee:

:hehe:

who says i dont already

[Niamh.]

:hehe:

who says i dont already

:fan:

[bots]

No offence but as you are both men I assume you've never had to endure 8 hours of heel wearing, come back to me when you have. I do find it funny that the only two members here supporting forcing a woman to wear uncomfortable shoes at work are men aswell. Wearing uncomfortable shoes doesn't compare with wearing a suit or shirt or whatever

I'm not disagreeing with you. Wearing an advertising sandwich board and tracking round the streets can't be very comfortable. Wearing a mickey mouse outfit or buzz lightyear outfit all day can't be very comfortable, but its agreed to when they take on the job. The same applies in this case. Thats why she doesn't have a leg to stand on in this particular case.

[bots]

:clap2:

I challenge LT and BOTS to walk around in heels for a whole day and see how much they love it. Their legs will look amazing though I'm sure :hee:

I'm not known for my dexterity :joker: I once did try a pair of heels and fell over within 30 seconds, so they are not for me :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/ad_205701058.jpg

She is a really pretty girl

[DemolitionRed]

I'm not disagreeing with you. Wearing an advertising sandwich board and tracking round the streets can't be very comfortable. Wearing a mickey mouse outfit or buzz lightyear outfit all day can't be very comfortable, but its agreed to when they take on the job. The same applies in this case. Thats why she doesn't have a leg to stand on in this particular case.

I think you will find she does

"The firm had changed its policy to allow workers to wear flat shoes depending on their preference.

In a statement on Wednesday evening he said: "We are totally committed to being an inclusive and equal opportunities employer, actively embracing diversity and inclusion within all our policies and procedures.

"We are therefore making it very clear that with immediate effect, all our female colleagues can wear plain flat shoes or plain court shoes as they prefer."

[bots]

I think you will find she does

"The firm had changed its policy to allow workers to wear flat shoes depending on their preference.

In a statement on Wednesday evening he said: "We are totally committed to being an inclusive and equal opportunities employer, actively embracing diversity and inclusion within all our policies and procedures.

"We are therefore making it very clear that with immediate effect, all our female colleagues can wear plain flat shoes or plain court shoes as they prefer."



Then that's fine then ... if the firm choose to change their guidelines, great.

[Niamh.]

I'm not disagreeing with you. Wearing an advertising sandwich board and tracking round the streets can't be very comfortable. Wearing a mickey mouse outfit or buzz lightyear outfit all day can't be very comfortable, but its agreed to when they take on the job. The same applies in this case. Thats why she doesn't have a leg to stand on in this particular case.

It's not comparable at all, wearing a costume or a sandwich board is the job in those situations. Being a receptionist doesn't require heels as part of a job description, wearing them or not doesn't effect the actual work entailed in that job (except the receptionist might be happier when her feet are comfortable :hee: )

[Niamh.]

I'm not known for my dexterity :joker: I once did try a pair of heels and fell over within 30 seconds, so they are not for me :laugh:

Yet you think it's ok for sexist companies to try and force a woman into the same discomfort? shame on you :nono:

[Kizzy]

I think they know that should she challenge the 'rule' they wouldn't have a leg to stand on :hehe:

[Nicky91]

i'm not a girl or a woman, but heels are i think horrible for your feet :joker:


so i can really understand her for not wearing heels :)

[Cherie]

I got the impression she wasn't aware of the dress code until she got there, as a receptionist you sit behind a desk, a lot of the time no one will see your feet, as long as she was smartly dressed I don't see the issue, the agency are at fault for not telling her she HAD to wear heels.
If you work at Libertys in London as a female you have to have polished nails, that is even more ridiculous :umm2:

[bots]

Yet you think it's ok for sexist companies to try and force a woman into the same discomfort? shame on you :nono:

People need to be careful what they sign up to and agree to on taking a job. Its not just about shoes, its about a whole range of things. You can't sign it and then do the complete opposite without there being repercussions. In this case, they seem to have changed their policy, so all is well, but the majority of the time that won't happen, so be careful of the small print always.

[Livia]

:clap2:

I challenge LT and BOTS to walk around in heels for a whole day and see how much they love it. Their legs will look amazing though I'm sure :hee:

Ohhhh I would pay cash money to see LT in a pair of heels.

[Livia]

People need to be careful what they sign up to and agree to on taking a job. Its not just about shoes, its about a whole range of things. You can't sign it and then do the complete opposite without there being repercussions. In this case, they seem to have changed their policy, so all is well, but the majority of the time that won't happen, so be careful of the small print always.

Whether it was included in what she signed is neither here nor there, it's purely discriminatory and sexism doesn't have any place at work in 2016.

[Kizzy]

People need to be careful what they sign up to and agree to on taking a job. Its not just about shoes, its about a whole range of things. You can't sign it and then do the complete opposite without there being repercussions. In this case, they seem to have changed their policy, so all is well, but the majority of the time that won't happen, so be careful of the small print always.

I don't know how they could enforce such a rule, say she injured her foot ... what then?

[Niamh.]

Whether it was included in what she signed is neither here nor there, it's purely discriminatory and sexism doesn't have any place at work in 2016.

:clap2:

It's fine to say smart shoes but insisting women wear heels is just the height of sexism and is unnecessarily forcing a woman to be uncomfortable for no apparent reason other than men like the look of womens legs in heels better than in flat shoes and that is the crux of it, let there be no doubt about that

[joeysteele]

They're really uncomfortable, I rarely if ever wear them and when I do they're the fatter ones because the others hurt my feet too much. Why do you suppose at weddings etc 90% of the women end up walking around in bare feet or bring a flat pair in their bags by the time the dinner is over? Because they hurt like a mother****er that's why :hee:

eta : I never, ever wear heels to work

My Mum has never worn high heels since her teenage years and she stopped then because she could never walk properly in them and they were really uncomfortable.

As far as I am concerned, yes for work maybe 'smart' shoes are a must in some professions or work but the overriding priority should always be what the wearer is most comfortable in.

If that is flat shoes rather than high heels, they should not be expected to and certainly never forced to, wear high heels.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If she was so vexed about it then surely she should have made an appointment with HR and raised the issue there, we work in a democracy and if she went through the proper channels and the company had then canvassed the staff a proper solution could be found, rather than trial by media

what a silly girl :nono:

[Niamh.]

If she was so vexed about it then surely she should have made an appointment with HR and raised the issue there, we work in a democracy and if she went through the proper channels and the company had then canvassed the staff a proper solution could be found, rather than trial by media

what a silly girl :nono:

absolutely disagree again, this is an issue probably alot of women just put up with, good on her for bringing it out into the open, might encourage other women to stand up for themselves and not be treated like we're back in the 50's as Livia says :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

absolutely disagree again, this is an issue probably alot of women just put up with, good on her for bringing it out into the open, might encourage other women to stand up for themselves and not be treated like we're back in the 50's as Livia says :hee:

sorry neem but have you seen how hot the women are in Mad Men?

Give me Peggy anyday than some sweaty gym bunny walking around in training shoes carrying a bottle of evian and a stapler

:yuk:

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/arts/tv_club/2015/05/150519_TVC_MadMen_PeggyOffice.jpg.CROP.promo-mediumlarge.jpg

:clap1:

[Niamh.]

sorry neem but have you seen how hot the women are in Mad Men?

Give me Peggy anyday than some sweaty gym bunny walking around in training shoes carrying a bottle of evian and a stapler

:yuk:

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/arts/tv_club/2015/05/150519_TVC_MadMen_PeggyOffice.jpg.CROP.promo-mediumlarge.jpg

:clap1:

Thank You very much for proving my point, the only reason you want women to wear heels is because you view them as some sort object for you to ogle over..........so the only benefit of having a female receptionist wearing heels is so the men will find her more attractive, I know your post is a jokey one but that is exactly what the case is, there is no other reason why it would be written in there as a required piece of clothing and I find draconian and disgusting tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thank You very much for proving my point, the only reason you want women to wear heels is because you view them as some sort object for you to ogle over..........so the only benefit of having a female receptionist wearing heels is so the men will find her more attractive, I know your post is a jokey one but that is exactly what the case is, there is no other reason why it would be written in there as a required piece of clothing and I find draconian and disgusting tbh

Yes the soul reason you have an attractive girl on reception is because men are in most senior positions and the idea is that if the people coming to your building to do business think the receptionist is hot then they may give you business

I think that covers the psychology?

I did not make this rule btw

[Livia]

Yes the soul reason you have an attractive girl on reception is because men are in most senior positions and the idea is that if the people coming to your building to do business think the receptionist is hot then they may give you business

I think that covers the psychology?

I did not make this rule btw

That's changing. A lot of woman are rising to the top these days. Do women expect their sexual preference be pandered to by reception staff? No. Because, again, it's not the 1950s.

[Ammi]

If she was so vexed about it then surely she should have made an appointment with HR and raised the issue there, we work in a democracy and if she went through the proper channels and the company had then canvassed the staff a proper solution could be found, rather than trial by media

what a silly girl :nono:


..she was sent home from work though../given a choice of either going out and purchasing some heeled shoes or going home so it didn't really sound as though they were open to any discussion about it...


..she's an actress apparently/a TV actress who I presume was doing some temping work while she wasn't acting so it would seem unfortunate for them that they chose to discriminate against someone who would be quite happy to pursue it publicly..but that's a good thing that she has and highlighted it because it's a discriminating employment rule...codes of dress for males and females can differ in the workplace but they have to be reasonable to the job being done and having to wear heels for a reception job isn't 'reasonable', so long as smart shoes are being worn...

[Niamh.]

Yes the soul reason you have an attractive girl on reception is because men are in most senior positions and the idea is that if the people coming to your building to do business think the receptionist is hot then they may give you business

I think that covers the psychology?

I did not make this rule btw


And that is disgusting and demeaning and thankfully women like this woman are highlighting it so we can hopefully stamp out that revolting attitude towards modern women in our society. And hopefully my own daughter will live in a world that will treat her more like a human being and not an object

..she was sent home from work though../given a choice of either going out and purchasing some heeled shoes or going home so it didn't really sound as though they were open to any discussion about it...


..she's an actress apparently/a TV actress who I presume was doing some temping work while she wasn't acting so it would seem unfortunate for them that they chose to discriminate against someone who would be quite happy to pursue it publicly..but that's a good thing that she has and highlighted it because it's a discriminating employment rule...codes of dress for males and females can differ in the workplace but they have to be reasonable to the job being done and having to wear heels for a reception job isn't 'reasonable', so long as smart shoes are being worn...

:clap2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's changing. A lot of woman are rising to the top these days. Do women expect their sexual preference be pandered to by reception staff? No. Because, again, it's not the 1950s.

i doubt very much (and i may be wrong) that in big companies the reception look has changed very much in the last 30 years

get a couple of good looking efficient girls on there and bingo

[AnnieK]

She signed up to and accepted their dress code which included wearing heels. We can argue the toss all day if its necessary as a dress code or not, but she agreed to it, so has no basis for moaning when they tell her to go home for not wearing them

Where does it say she agreed to it? I've read the article and it says the company had the dress code but as she was employed through an agency she may not have been aware and the article says she was told on the first day that she had to wear them so if this is the case, she neither "signed up" or agreed to wear heels.

[CouchPotato8]

She can work elsewhere if she doesn't want to follow the contract.

[arista]

If she was so vexed about it then surely she should have made an appointment with HR and raised the issue there, we work in a democracy and if she went through the proper channels and the company had then canvassed the staff a proper solution could be found, rather than trial by media

what a silly girl :nono:



She is Not Silly
if her Petition
reaches 100,000
It goes into Parliament
Thats Now

"A petition calling for a ban on women having to wear heels at work has passed
100,000 signatures - meaning MPs may now discuss it."

[arista]

Now that Temp Agency
has changed its mind
workers can now have flat shoes

ITV1 London Live

[arista]

She can work elsewhere if she doesn't want to follow the contract.


She can now work there in Flat Shoes

[Vanessa]

No way in hell can they force me to wear heels. I hate them :fist:

[Tom4784]

I do find it funny that everyone who agrees with the company is a man and would not be required to wear anything that is uncomfortable and/or damaging if used for long periods of time. Even sillier is the comparison that heels are not different to suits, if a suit is uncomfortable it means it doesn't fit you well, high heels are damaging regardless.

[Niamh.]

I do find it funny that everyone who agrees with the company is a man and would not be required to wear anything that is uncomfortable and/or damaging if used for long periods of time. Even sillier is the comparison that heels are not different to suits, if a suit is uncomfortable it means it doesn't fit you well, high heels are damaging regardless.



Yeah I find that pretty hilarious aswell, hilarious or really offensive, not sure which :think:

[GiRTh]

Fiona Bruce presents BBC's flagship bulletin in TRAINERS (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3579900/Fiona-Bruce-presents-BBC-s-flagship-10pm-bulletin-TRAINERS.html)

[Marsh.]

what is she wanted to wear a bobble hat?


every company on earth would say no

How is a bobble hat the same as a flat shoe? :joker:

[Marsh.]

I'm not disagreeing with you. Wearing an advertising sandwich board and tracking round the streets can't be very comfortable. Wearing a mickey mouse outfit or buzz lightyear outfit all day can't be very comfortable, but its agreed to when they take on the job. The same applies in this case. Thats why she doesn't have a leg to stand on in this particular case.

How is a sandwich board comparable? In this case the point of wearing the sandwich board IS THE JOB. A form of advertising.

In the case of this woman, how on earth does the type of footwear she has have anything to do with her job as a receptionist?

[Marsh.]

It's not comparable at all, wearing a costume or a sandwich board is the job in those situations. Being a receptionist doesn't require heels as part of a job description, wearing them or not doesn't effect the actual work entailed in that job (except the receptionist might be happier when her feet are comfortable :hee: )

Oh Niamh got there first. :clap1:

[Marsh.]

That's changing. A lot of woman are rising to the top these days. Do women expect their sexual preference be pandered to by reception staff? No. Because, again, it's not the 1950s.

i doubt very much (and i may be wrong) that in big companies the reception look has changed very much in the last 30 years

get a couple of good looking efficient girls on there and bingo

I've been put on reception duty a good few times in a previous job. :o

Are you telling me the 56 year old female manager who put me there did so because she wanted to ogle my caboose? :omgno:

[Niamh.]

Oh Niamh got there first. :clap1:

Great minds Marsh :love: