Spurs? is there a bigger bottle merchant club than them?

[Crimson Dynamo]

:laugh2:

arsenal above them again

pathetic

[Denver]

5-1 to a 10 man relagated team

[Shaun]

Beautiful day

[GiRTh]

Happy Totteringham Day

:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

[Jayson]

Every year like clockwork

[Drew.]

The best Spurs side a lot of their fans have ever seen and we still manage to finish above them after having a bad season by our standards. If there's one thing you can guarantee every season then thats Spurs making a fool out of themselves

[alex_front2]

The best Spurs side a lot of their fans have ever seen and we still manage to finish above them after having a bad season by our standards. If there's one thing you can guarantee every season then thats Spurs making a fool out of themselves

Only Tottenham can finish third in a two-horse race.
Twitter @Mesutical

:joker::joker:

Wow, as seasons go Spurs' best < Arsenal's worst [ended up #2]

Roy Keane on Sir Alex's team talk against Spurs

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CigppzyXIAANg_L.jpg

[Alf]

It doesn't matter where Arsenal finish, their fans will still be ungrateful.

Apparently there is a better manager out there that would win them every trophy.

2nd eh? Not bad considering the manager is past it and their centre forward couldn't score in the Geordie Shore house.

[GiRTh]

It doesn't matter where Arsenal finish, their fans will still be ungrateful.

Apparently there is a better manager out there that would win them every trophy.

2nd eh? Not bad considering the manager is past it and their centre forward couldn't score in the Geordie Shore house.Its not about winning everything it about the fact that the team is not improving under the manager and its not just the fans that think so.

For instance , Arsenal do not perform to their seeding in the Champions league. Arsenal are a top seeded team in the champions league and with that come expectations from UEFA that Arsenal have failed to perform to for 7 years. Even according to UeFA Arsenal are underachieving. I'd prefer we werent a top seeded team as I dont think our seedin is realistic but having a go at the fans who pay the highest ticket prices in Europe is not the root of this problem.

[Drew.]

I guess we share something in common about being ungrateful in that case. Your lot only waited a few months before wanting your manager out. One sight one CL football in Martinez's first season has given you lot false hopes, a slight drop since and he's been shafted out with banners at every game.

[Drew.]

Its not about winning everything it about the fact that the team is not improving under the manager and its not just the fans that think so.

For instance , Arsenal do not perform to their seeding in the Champions league. Arsenal are a top seeded team in the champions league and with that come expectations from UEFA that Arsenal have failed to perform to for 7 years. Even according to UeFA Arsenal are underachieving.

Good post

[Shaun]

I thought Arsenal lost the 'top seeding' position last season? (Hence us getting in a group with Bayern)

[GiRTh]

I thought Arsenal lost the 'top seeding' position last season? (Hence us getting in a group with Bayern)I stand corrected, we lost the top seed last year. So only six years of underachievement..:joker:

[Shaun]

:laugh: baby steps

[GiRTh]

:laugh: baby stepsI think finsihing 2nd makes us a top seed again. :facepalm:

[Shaun]

Hopefully not :fc: IIRC the top seeds were the returning champions (Real presumably) and then the champions of the 7 biggest leagues for the first time. So Leicester :laugh:

Actually no it's probably best if we are top seeds I guess...

[Crimson Dynamo]

arsenal are a disgrace too. so are man city

all that money spent and they got done by a pub team for the league


you could not make it up

:joker:

[Alf]

I guess we share something in common about being ungrateful in that case. Your lot only waited a few months before wanting your manager out. One sight one CL football in Martinez's first season has given you lot false hopes, a slight drop since and he's been shafted out with banners at every game.
A huge difference, Everton have been getting hammered in games and not been competitive, where as Wenger has your team competitive every season, and fills your cabinets with Silver.

1995 since Everton won a piece of Silver, so there's nothing for us to be ungrateful for.

[alex_front2]

Got to feel bad for Spurs. On paper they have been the best team: most goals, least conceded, best goal difference (even 5-1 loss v NUFC couldn't dent that) exciting kids etc. Yet they failed, sure they have CL footy next season but next season with Pep's Man City, Jose's Man U, Conte's Chelsea and Arsenal inevitable #4 another title challenge for Spurs is tough, plus the mid tier clubs like WBA, Soton, West Ham will look at Leicester and get fancy Nancy ideas of a 'shock' title run.

[Alf]

Without a freak season from Leicester, Wenger would be lifting another Premier League title above his head. Yet you want somebody else to do his job, because whoever they are, they'll apparently be better.

[GiRTh]

Hopefully not :fc: IIRC the top seeds were the returning champions (Real presumably) and then the champions of the 7 biggest leagues for the first time. So Leicester :laugh:

Actually no it's probably best if we are top seeds I guess...Its better for us to be a top seed but maybe we need a few seasons going up against top teams early on to see if we can compete.

[GiRTh]

Without a freak season from Leicester, Wenger would be lifting another Premier League title above his head. Yet you want somebody else to do his job, because whoever they are, they'll apparently be better.A freak season from Chelsea and Man City too. Do you expect them not to challenge next year?

You've kind of touched on it in your post. Even in freak season we could not and did not compete; even though we were top on new years day. Let me repeat that - Top on new years day but could not and did not make any kind of challenge to Leicester. This was our year and we blew it. Second is great but its very flattering to the team and the manager.

[Alf]

A freak season from Chelsea and Man City too. Do you expect them not to challenge next year?
Maybe, but who knows? Guardiola's style might not suit the Premier league, he's un-proven in this league. Same goes for who ever is taking over at Chelsea.

But we do know that Wenger is the second greatest ever manager in this league, and his team will be up there challenging, again.

[Stu]

http://i.imgur.com/WCFC1Qo.jpg

[Drew.]

arsenal are a disgrace too. so are man city

all that money spent and they got done by a pub team for the league


you could not make it up

:joker:

Wouldn't go as far as calling us a disgrace. Underachievers yeah but not a disgrace, we're not in the same category as the likes of Chelsea, City and UTD with money spending. UTD have spent about 300m since Fergie left 3 years ago and are just about scraping out some results playing poor football, thats the closest you'll get to being a disgrace.

[alex_front2]

Without a freak season from Leicester, Wenger would be lifting another Premier League title above his head. Yet you want somebody else to do his job, because whoever they are, they'll apparently be better.

It's not a freak win by Leicester. They actually deserved the title. Didn't bottle it, rode their luck but only lost 3 times (albeit 2x against AFC). JUST because Leicester don't splash out on big names or have players with "sexy" names it doesn't mean they aren't worthy winners. The premier league is not the Arsenal/ Man U/ Man City/ Chelsea premier league. It's not inevitable that a big club should win title. History means nothing, having loads of fans means nothing, winning things in past means nothing, spending loadsamoney means nowt. It's about what you do now. Newcastle have more fans than Leicester. Man U have more fans than Spurs. There is no reason why Burnley or Bournemouth can't win title .

[GiRTh]

Maybe, but who knows? Guardiola's style might not suit the Premier league, he's un-proven in this league. Same goes for who ever is taking over at Chelsea.

But we do know that Wenger is the second greatest ever manager in this league, and his team will be up there challenging, again.Ok I see what you're saying but I see it differently. Pep may be untried in the EPL but he gives an intensity to all his teams that mean his teams put the effort in for him, Conte has done wonders at Juventus and maybe Mourinho will be at Old Trafford. Wenger has a poor record against two of those managers. Add to that Klopp - another manager Wenger has a suspect record against - getting Klopp type players, maybe a maintaining of form by Spurs, an improvement at Man Utd and West Ham moving to the new stadium gives them added power in the transfer market. When I add all that up I dont see a place for Arsenal in the top four next season unless the manager changes his style and team. Its gonna be a massive season for the manager next year. We'll see how he does. :thumbs:

[alex_front2]

Guardiola won't do as well in EPL in his first season as he needs to 'gut out' an ageing team of 30+ players, replace with you players especially English.

[Denver]

The team to watch next season is Liverpool

[Alf]

It's not a freak win by Leicester. They actually deserved the title. Didn't bottle it, rode their luck but only lost 3 times (albeit 2x against AFC). JUST because Leicester don't splash out on big names or have players with "sexy" names it doesn't mean they aren't worthy winners. The premier league is not the Arsenal/ Man U/ Man City/ Chelsea premier league. It's not inevitable that a big club should win title. History means nothing, having loads of fans means nothing, winning things in past means nothing, spending loadsamoney means number. It's about what you do now. Newcastle have more fans than Leicester. Man U have more fans than Spurs. There is no reason why Burnley or Bournemouth can't win title .I'm n saying they didn't deserve it, they've shown all the quality's needed this season, but they wouldn't have even come into the thinking of anybody at the start of the season, when asked who'd win the title? They were the outsiders of 20, so the result and their form is very surprising, against the norm, not usual, freakish.

[alex_front2]

The team to watch next season is Liverpool
That's hardly a shock, big club, not exactly the "next Leicester" shocker, might as well say team to watch next season is Man City :joker:

I think next season the new Spurs will be West Ham, Bournemouth, Soton and maybe Stoke.

[alex_front2]

I'm n saying they didn't deserve it, they've shown all the quality's needed this season, but they wouldn't have even come into the thinking of anybody at the start of the season, when asked who'd win the title? They were the outsiders of 20, so the result and their form is very surprising, against the norm, not usual, freakish. Actually I was tipping Soton to be a "shock" title contender, I just got the team wrong :joker:

For me there is no such thing as a big shock in EPL, even Leicester winning was always feasible as there are no stand out teams. The so called big teams Arsenal, Man U, City, Chelsea are not that great or dominant compared to PSG 1970, Barcelona, and Juve. The EPL is very competitive, and in these post Fergie times the so called dominant side Man U are bang average, just another side, albeit one with loadsamoney. Anyone can beat anyone (Bournemouth beat Chelsea and Man U back to back). This would never happen in La Liga where bottom of the table sides e.g. my team Rayo Vallecano (relegated :sad::sad::sad::shocked::bawling: :bawling::bawling::cloud::facepalm: sob sob sob) have no chance of beating the big boys let alone the title. Leicester beat Man U 5-3 last season, having been losing 2-0 then 3-1. The signs were there, noone paid attention.

[MTVN]

Klopp must be up there with 5 defeats in 6 cup finals

[Cherie]

Klopp must be up there with 5 defeats in 6 cup finals

:hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Klopp must be up there with 5 defeats in 6 cup finals

:hehe: