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hbk4894
18-05-2016, 09:33 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/reecedouglas1/status/733037463107670016

Reece says people who dont need brain checks , do you agree?

Denver
18-05-2016, 09:36 PM
Yes you should always support your country and teams from it

Calderyon
18-05-2016, 09:44 PM
Only if the team is named Man Utd it´s okay not to support them.

I always support HJK, Haka etc. when they play in the Champions League/European League qualifications and try to advance.

And then bash them harshly when they lose to club teams from N.I, Estonia, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Malta etc.

MTVN
18-05-2016, 09:54 PM
I have never supported another English team in Europe and have loved it every time they have ****ed up like tonight

Mystic Mock
18-05-2016, 09:58 PM
Shouldn't people just support teams that they like rather than where they come from?:crazy:

Because if that's the case then shouldn't every Londoner support all of the London teams? And that all Brummies support all of the Midlands teams?

Mystic Mock
18-05-2016, 09:58 PM
Shouldn't people just support teams that they like rather than where they come from?:crazy:

Because if that's the case then shouldn't every Londoner support all of the London teams? And that all Brummies support all of the Midlands teams?

GiRTh
18-05-2016, 10:08 PM
I have never supported another English team in Europe and have loved it every time they have ****ed up like tonightx2

Calderyon
18-05-2016, 10:08 PM
^ Sure you can do that too. I do that, even though there are not much of those kind of teams, but that´s probably because i don´t watch much of club based football nowadays and like international football more (countries).

But i do find it hard to not to support a Finnish team when they play against a team from another country even if the team was my favorite like Ajax (because of Litmanen) or Hyypiä (because of Hyypiä) etc.

joeysteele
18-05-2016, 10:40 PM
Shouldn't people just support teams that they like rather than where they come from?:crazy:

Because if that's the case then shouldn't every Londoner support all of the London teams? And that all Brummies support all of the Midlands teams?

Yes.

I hold a special affection for Birmingham having been a supporter since being young.

However who plays the best football gets my support really, no matter the team or where they are from.

bots
18-05-2016, 11:39 PM
I have never supported another English team in Europe and have loved it every time they have ****ed up like tonight

As a Scot I will be doing the same with England in the Euros :laugh:

_Tom_
19-05-2016, 12:37 AM
As a Scot I will be doing the same with England in the Euros :laugh:

Same! :laugh:

Shaun
19-05-2016, 02:51 AM
Depends who it is. I'll support liverpool because I have family and friends who do, and I have nothing against city so I'd support them, but Chelsea and United can suck a fat one.

billy123
19-05-2016, 07:42 AM
I support any British club in Europe except Manchester united they have a particularly bitter and not very intelligent element to their support. A larger than usual number of their support are really not very pleasant.

Nicky91
19-05-2016, 07:52 AM
i only support Manchester United and i will be supporting Leicester city for the upcoming Champions League :)

Crimson Dynamo
19-05-2016, 08:08 AM
i always want the UK team to win. even arsenal

im even pleased for Scotland if Celtic win :umm2:



In the Euros I will be supporting NI, Wales, England and Republic with equal vigour

Drew.
19-05-2016, 09:47 AM
Depends on the circumstances. I wouldn't use the word support but I was backing Liverpool to win last night. I don't mind Liverpool and have no connections to Sevilla so it would have been good to see an English side winning it. Had it been Chelsea for instance then no chance, there are some teams id never back to win. If Liverpool were playing a foreign team like Valencia who I really like then I'd have backed them so it all depends

MTVN
19-05-2016, 09:59 AM
W5Qxe8cFIfo

'Lets have it straight yeah, they're just a plastic team who got lucky and you're telling me you want them to win Europa League!!??'

Tarryn
19-05-2016, 10:10 AM
I support any British club in Europe except Manchester united they have a particularly bitter and not very intelligent element to their support. A larger than usual number of their support are really not very pleasant.

That's an awful thing to say. Unless you have met EVERY fan from EVERY club then you really have no idea.
I go to games week in week out & can safely say ALL clubs have stupid fan's but to say Manchester United have a larger than usual number really means you are very narrow minded.

Crimson Dynamo
19-05-2016, 10:34 AM
W5Qxe8cFIfo

'Lets have it straight yeah, they're just a plastic team who got lucky and you're telling me you want them to win Europa League!!??'

:joker: i heave heard this many many times, it's a classic

billy123
19-05-2016, 01:05 PM
That's an awful thing to say. Unless you have met EVERY fan from EVERY club then you really have no idea.
I go to games week in week out & can safely say ALL clubs have stupid fan's but to say Manchester United have a larger than usual number really means you are very narrow minded.

I hear you Tarryn and i can only base it on 30+ years of matchgoing but Take the piss out of Liverpool fc all you like and i wont get offended but there is that line that anybody with common sense knows where it is.
That line gets crossed a fair bit but hey thats banter right? In my experience there are a set of fans that have absolutely no respect for anyone and anything to do with that line and even brag about it by chanting "we do what we want"
Im not tarring the whole club with the same brush but MUFC fans have a much higher arsehole to fan ratio to any club i know.

I live near and work in Manchester i observe this every day without even mentioning who i support and i can promise you the further MUFC fall from grace over the last 5 years the more bitter and nasty a lot of them have become.

MTVN
19-05-2016, 02:01 PM
Was Liverpool fans embarrassing English football again last night by fighting Sevilla fans in the stands

Brother Leon
19-05-2016, 02:48 PM
Was Liverpool fans embarrassing English football again last night by fighting Sevilla fans in the stands


Or when they lie about Chelsea/United fans disrespecting their Hillsborough mural so they have an excuse to attack elderly fans after games.. Or when they chant racist terms about Patrice Evra.
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Anyway. I never support the English team except for Tottenham and now Leicester next year. Can't bring myself to want Liverpool,City, Chelsea or Arsenal to win.

In the Euros, I will strictly be supporting England only too. Hopefully the other home nations crash out in the first round :idc:

Crimson Dynamo
19-05-2016, 02:56 PM
or when man u players in their bus try to knock down west hams fans going about their business at the ground

:idc:

billy123
19-05-2016, 03:52 PM
Was Liverpool fans embarrassing English football again last night by fighting Sevilla fans in the stands
1/10 again (1 for again trying to derail) grow up you are getting worse at this. at least stick to the topic.
reported.

Tarryn
19-05-2016, 04:34 PM
I hear you Tarryn and i can only base it on 30+ years of matchgoing but Take the piss out of Liverpool fc all you like and i wont get offended but there is that line that anybody with common sense knows where it is.
That line gets crossed a fair bit but hey thats banter right? In my experience there are a set of fans that have absolutely no respect for anyone and anything to do with that line and even brag about it by chanting "we do what we want"
Im not tarring the whole club with the same brush but MUFC fans have a much higher arsehole to fan ratio to any club i know.

I live near and work in Manchester i observe this every day without even mentioning who i support and i can promise you the further MUFC fall from grace over the last 5 years the more bitter and nasty a lot of them have become.
You & I must be roughly the same age as I started supporting United in 84' when I was 5, I go to a lot of games not just United one's & I just don't agree with you. Liverpool have had a much bigger fall from grace over a longer period of time & I'm not going to start calling them stupid even when I've been to Anfield & heard SOME of their supporters saying disgusting things. You get total pricks at every ground, that's life.
SOME fan's are bitter & go to matches just to chant/sing/say insulting & quite frankly vile things. You get this at every ground. I'm passionate about my team & stand up for them when talking to rival supporters even when I don't agree with what my team is doing, it's like family, you stand by them.
You just can't say that one club has more fan's that are bad over other clubs.
It's just wrong. Go to some European grounds & observe their fan's. It's far worse.
I RESPECTFULLY 100% disagree with what you say :fist:

MTVN
19-05-2016, 10:33 PM
1/10 again (1 for again trying to derail) grow up you are getting worse at this. at least stick to the topic.
reported.

lol how you can post that given your opening post in this thread is beyond me, sort it out

Denver
19-05-2016, 10:36 PM
Fyi wanting british teans to be bad in Europe is taking it out on your team

Mystic Mock
20-05-2016, 10:37 AM
You & I must be roughly the same age as I started supporting United in 84' when I was 5, I go to a lot of games not just United one's & I just don't agree with you. Liverpool have had a much bigger fall from grace over a longer period of time & I'm not going to start calling them stupid even when I've been to Anfield & heard SOME of their supporters saying disgusting things. You get total pricks at every ground, that's life.
SOME fan's are bitter & go to matches just to chant/sing/say insulting & quite frankly vile things. You get this at every ground. I'm passionate about my team & stand up for them when talking to rival supporters even when I don't agree with what my team is doing, it's like family, you stand by them.
You just can't say that one club has more fan's that are bad over other clubs.
It's just wrong. Go to some European grounds & observe their fan's. It's far worse.
I RESPECTFULLY 100% disagree with what you say :fist:

I agree with you that there's twats that support every team in Football.

I don't know if I've told anyone this but the first ever game that I went to was when we faced Newcastle at St Andrews and we got relegated that very day as we drew 0-0 but we had to win the game to have a chance at staying up, and I remember a fellow Blues fan who was sitting next to me calling Heskey (who was playing for us at the time) some of the most racist things that you'd be shocked to hear at a Football ground.

With Man U fans the only thing that I can say there based off my Mom is that they seem to think that they're saints whilst everyone else is the Devil (as I said this is based off my own Mom's behaviour when discussing Man Utd compared to most of the other teams)

billy123
20-05-2016, 01:00 PM
You & I must be roughly the same age as I started supporting United in 84' when I was 5, I go to a lot of games not just United one's & I just don't agree with you. Liverpool have had a much bigger fall from grace over a longer period of time & I'm not going to start calling them stupid even when I've been to Anfield & heard SOME of their supporters saying disgusting things. You get total pricks at every ground, that's life.
SOME fan's are bitter & go to matches just to chant/sing/say insulting & quite frankly vile things. You get this at every ground. I'm passionate about my team & stand up for them when talking to rival supporters even when I don't agree with what my team is doing, it's like family, you stand by them.
You just can't say that one club has more fan's that are bad over other clubs.
It's just wrong. Go to some European grounds & observe their fan's. It's far worse.
I RESPECTFULLY 100% disagree with what you say :fist:I respect your view 100% you are never far away from some little dickhead giving it the big-un when in reality they know **** all there is no shortage of them at any club thats for sure and half of them havent even been to a game just some spotty little herbert trying to be clever. http://www.4smileys.com/smileys/crazy-smileys/middlefinger-smiley.gif
But there is always a but :joker: some of the vitriol and nastiness i have witnessed online in the last 4-5 years coming from people i could previously talk to about football despite being rivals has shocked me.
someone hit on a good point earlier it is just idiots lashing out at their own teams failures and i in no way hold all supporters of a club responsible but it does taint the club when it happens in such numbers.
MUFC fans used to call Man City fans bitters but bloody hell how that table has turned.

billy123
20-05-2016, 01:15 PM
The premiership is on the verge of losing their 4th place in the Champions League they just about scraped by and earned enough co-efficient points in Europe this season by virtue of Liverpool reaching a final and spurs doing ok.
A bad performance in Europe next season would see the premiership lose a place in the champions league the season after making it harder to qualify for everyone including your own team.

Not supporting any other English teams in Europe is counter productive,short sighted and frankly a dickhead move.

http://www.espnfc.com/uefa-champions-league/story/2617221/could-the-premier-league-lose-a-champions-league-place

bots
20-05-2016, 02:41 PM
it should only be 1 team from each country in each competition. There is only 1 champion, not 3 runner ups :fist:

Tarryn
20-05-2016, 02:45 PM
it should only be 1 team from each country in each competition. There is only 1 champion, not 3 runner ups :fist:

Agree. ONLY the champions of each country should be in the Champions League. But if this happened what would Wenger have to aim for each season :shrug:

Mitchell
20-05-2016, 03:03 PM
What is this obsession on here for Reece ****ing Douglas?

GiRTh
20-05-2016, 03:07 PM
it should only be 1 team from each country in each competition. There is only 1 champion, not 3 runner ups :fist:
It used to be but then they decided it was too boring being the same teams every year...oh wait!!!!

GiRTh
20-05-2016, 03:12 PM
Agree. ONLY the champions of each country should be in the Champions League. But if this happened what would Wenger have to aim for each season :shrug:It might be the best thing to happen to him.

GiRTh
20-05-2016, 03:18 PM
The only times I have supported English teams in Europe it was cuz I thought they were the best team. I supported Man U in 1999 when they beat Bayern as I thought they were the best team in the competition. The competition was harder when it was two group stages IMO and every year that it was two group stage I would argue the best team in it, won it. The other time was against Chelsea in Moscow. I wanted to support them tthe two times they played Barca as I think that is the best Man U team Fergie created but I thought Barca team were better.

I do not understand why people insist every one should support an English team simply cuz they are English. It makes no sense to me.

alex_front2
20-05-2016, 04:07 PM
I don't expect Liverpool /City and Man U to show each other any love in Europe. The EUROPA league clash will have started a greater European enmity.

Got a feeling most fans won't begrudge Leicester City in Europe.

billy123
20-05-2016, 04:11 PM
I don't expect Liverpool /City and Man U to show each other any love in Europe. The EUROPA league clash will have started a greater European enmity.

Got a feeling most fans won't begrudge Leicester City in Europe.Only a dickhead would begrudge Leicseter City any success in Europe and claim to love all other English team ****ing up. Yet you do get people that are that bitter. Its pretty sad really.
Like i mentioned earlier English teams really need the co-efficicent points otherwise we will lose places in European competition which is bad for everyones preferred club.

MTVN
20-05-2016, 10:21 PM
Can't wait till Leicester are knocked out in the group stages

billy123
21-05-2016, 12:00 PM
Here is a bit of an explanation of what what coefficent points are and how the premier league stands at the moment.
http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/

You are cutting off your nose to spite your face by not supporting other Premiership teams in Europe but some dickheads dont realise that.
Buts kids are gonna be kids i suppose.

AnnieK
21-05-2016, 12:07 PM
Here is a bit of an explanation of what what coefficent points are and how the premier league stands at the moment.
http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/

You are cutting off your nose to spite your face by not supporting other Premiership teams in Europe but some dickheads dont realise that.
Buts kids are gonna be kids i suppose.

Not really though...support doesn't change those rankings....results do. :shrug: knowing a Man U supporter is supporting them is not going to make City play better