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the truth
23-05-2016, 02:31 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

the Donald has gone from 18% behind to 0.2% ahead in just 9 months

I think trump is trusted and believed by more people

He is the only politician in western society with the guts to talk about the most difficult issues

He is also the only hugely successful business man looking to lead a western nation.

he is right to point out hillarys disastrous tenure as foreign secretary in libya Syria, Iraq which she choose to bomb to smitherseens on the back of a pack of lies

he is right to point out how corrupt the democrats election has been and how fixed it has been against Bernie sanders and prevented so many voters voting. those disillusioned voters may switch to trump

The only issues I disagree with him is on guns and muslims. Though we in the UK hate guns, and we point to the 33,000 gun deaths in the USA per annum....we don't account for the number of violent crime being vastly higher here and also the rate of drug related crime in the uk is literally 10000 times higher here than the uk

I see no problem with building a wall. He is right to be vary mega vigilant on people who enter the country. they have millions of illegal immigrants arriving across their borders, whose papers are not checked. that is wrong. vigilant check points are a must to ensure the security of any society.

he is right on trade

he is right to support gay marriage as he has done since 2000

he was right on iraq

he is right on corporate corruption

he is right not to take corporate money

he is right to keep abortion legal but right to be weary of abortion and right to pump more funds into pro life support for parents who may need help in making their decision, knowledge , advice, services, such as fostering children can all help save lives and save parents a lifetime of regret for rushed abortions. these are often young poor confused people who dodnt even realise they can give birth and allow the child to go to temporary or permanent foster or adoption homes. trump was wrong to say women should be punished for abortions beyond the legal time limit, but right to say sorry and he made a mistake and stated correctly the doctors will get punished in those cases
he is right to employ based on ability regardless of politically correct quotas, his daughter will inherit his company not his sons

he is right to avoid endless negative ads and simply say your own genuine opinion

he is right to keep social security as it is and to pay war veterans more

he is right to punish us companies taking jobs abroad

he is also right about his golf courses, they are world class


He was right to create the apprentice which became one of the most successful reality show ever
he was right to ensure all he proceeds went to charities, which ran to tens of millions of dollars

he is right new York is the best city in the world
he is right about brexit and right to say its up to the brits and he doesn't want to interfere but he says UK will remain at the front of the trade queue with usa with trump in charge

arista
23-05-2016, 02:41 PM
yes a man of the Peoples Voice

Tom4784
23-05-2016, 02:42 PM
Dark times.

Glenn.
23-05-2016, 02:43 PM
This is how the world ends

arista
23-05-2016, 02:43 PM
Dark times.


No Dezzy

He will make America Great Again

arista
23-05-2016, 02:44 PM
This is how the world ends


No the End of Isis

Tom4784
23-05-2016, 02:46 PM
No Dezzy

He will make America Great Again

People believed Hitler was going to do that for Germany and look how that turned out.

the truth
23-05-2016, 02:50 PM
People believed Hitler was going to do that for Germany and look how that turned out.

always with the phoney hitler hysteria:nono:
I don't remember trump saying he wants to exterminate 6 million jews/muslims/Christians/disabled or anyone else

arista
23-05-2016, 02:50 PM
People believed Hitler was going to do that for the Germans and look how that turned out.



That was not the same

He had Evil Gas Chambers
and filled them with Evil Gas,
Murdering millions
in secret , at first.
Evil Master Plan

the truth
23-05-2016, 02:53 PM
mind you Clintons illegal wars in Iraq Syria and lybia have cost over a million lives...maybe she should be compared to hitler

arista
23-05-2016, 02:54 PM
mind you Clintons illegal wars in Iraq Syria and lybia have cost over a million lives...maybe she should be compared to hitler


Valid

the truth
23-05-2016, 02:57 PM
Valid

oh and left millions destitute stranded and create homeless refugees and asylum seekers across the middle east and Europe. but she and her government has helped enabled the corporations to get rich off these wars

arista
23-05-2016, 02:57 PM
oh and left millions destitute stranded and create homeless refugees and asylum seekers across the middle east and Europe. but she and her government has helped enabled the corporations to get rich off these wars


Valid Again

DemolitionRed
23-05-2016, 03:43 PM
always with the phoney hitler hysteria:nono:
I don't remember trump saying he wants to exterminate 6 million jews/muslims/Christians/disabled or anyone else

Neither did Hitler

Livia
23-05-2016, 03:49 PM
People believed Hitler was going to do that for Germany and look how that turned out.

Just what I was thinking.

The thought of Trump in the Whitehouse terrifies me.

DemolitionRed
23-05-2016, 04:03 PM
Here's a little gem!

Donald Trump plans to make Americans poor again.

"Donald Trump has threatened to place a 35 percent tariff against goods from Mexico and a 45 percent tariff against imports from China. He has also, by implication, threatened similar tariffs against Japan."

"Donald Trump’s trade policies would cost the typical U.S. household $11,100 over 5 years"

"Would such tariffs achieve Donald Trump’s goal of protecting U.S. workers from foreign competition? Ironically, the answer is “no.”

"What would be the impact of such policies? “A Trump tariff levied on imports from all countries would cost the average U.S. household $6,112 annually and $30,560 over a five-year period,” notes the research. “This ‘worldwide’ tariff would cost households in the lowest income decile $2,826 annually or $14,130 over five years and households in the highest income decile $12,514 annually, and $62,570 over five years.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2016/05/22/donald-trumps-plan-to-make-americans-poor-again/#6318d6bb2db0

the truth
23-05-2016, 04:10 PM
Here's a little gem!

Donald Trump plans to make Americans poor again.

"Donald Trump has threatened to place a 35 percent tariff against goods from Mexico and a 45 percent tariff against imports from China. He has also, by implication, threatened similar tariffs against Japan."

"Donald Trump’s trade policies would cost the typical U.S. household $11,100 over 5 years"

"Would such tariffs achieve Donald Trump’s goal of protecting U.S. workers from foreign competition? Ironically, the answer is “no.”

"What would be the impact of such policies? “A Trump tariff levied on imports from all countries would cost the average U.S. household $6,112 annually and $30,560 over a five-year period,” notes the research. “This ‘worldwide’ tariff would cost households in the lowest income decile $2,826 annually or $14,130 over five years and households in the highest income decile $12,514 annually, and $62,570 over five years.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2016/05/22/donald-trumps-plan-to-make-americans-poor-again/#6318d6bb2db0

ummmm Obama has just put 522% tariff on Chinese steel? youre way behind there red:hehe:

Crimson Dynamo
23-05-2016, 04:10 PM
His Mum was Scottish

the truth
23-05-2016, 04:11 PM
Just what I was thinking.

The thought of Trump in the Whitehouse terrifies me.

why? would he really kill more innocents than the millions Hillary supported being obliterated?

Livia
23-05-2016, 04:13 PM
why? would he really kill more innocents than the millions Hillary supported being obliterated?

I think he would yes. In a heartbeat.

Anyhoo... "millions" is a bit of a stretch.

joeysteele
23-05-2016, 04:27 PM
I think he would yes. In a heartbeat.

Anyhoo... "millions" is a bit of a stretch.

I do too.

However come the election I still cannot see him winning, no way in my view,will he get the really big States with the big numbers to win enough to take the Presidency.

For me him becoming President would really be the USA likely going mad.

bots
23-05-2016, 04:32 PM
I don't see why Trump is considered more dangerous than Clinton. Contrary to what people seemingly think here, 1 person doesn't run a country.

Brother Leon
23-05-2016, 04:40 PM
America deserves it. Imagine Clinton beating Sanders to be candidate ffs :laugh:

the truth
23-05-2016, 04:41 PM
I think he would yes. In a heartbeat.

Anyhoo... "millions" is a bit of a stretch.

over a million for starters and millions of refugees
how can you justify the claim trump will kill more than that?

the truth
23-05-2016, 04:44 PM
I do too.

However come the election I still cannot see him winning, no way in my view,will he get the really big States with the big numbers to win enough to take the Presidency.

For me him becoming President would really be the USA likely going mad.

why do you think he will kill more people than Clintons crazy policies which have in effect lead to over a million deaths and millions of refugees

joeysteele
23-05-2016, 04:56 PM
I don't see why Trump is considered more dangerous than Clinton. Contrary to what people seemingly think here, 1 person doesn't run a country.

That's true but a lot will depend on what happens in the Senate and House of Representatives.

Anyway if it is as close contest in the end as the poll in this thread is saying,then I hope it goes like 1960.there was only 0.2% between the 2 candidates then.

However one got the big States and had nearly 100 electoral votes more than the other in the end.
I just do not see Trump getting the really big States and of course i hope he doesn't too.

the truth
23-05-2016, 05:18 PM
That's true but a lot will depend on what happens in the Senate and House of Representatives.

Anyway if it is as close contest in the end as the poll in this thread is saying,then I hope it goes like 1960.there was only 0.2% between the 2 candidates then.

However one got the big States and had nearly 100 electoral votes more than the other in the end.
I just do not see Trump getting the really big States and of course i hope he doesn't too.

why?

Livia
23-05-2016, 06:53 PM
over a million for starters and millions of refugees
how can you justify the claim trump will kill more than that?

I never made that claim so I don't have to justify it. But if he was in the hot seat as you suggested I think he'd be likely to do it. I never said definitively that he would.

GiRTh
23-05-2016, 07:08 PM
America deserves it. Imagine Clinton beating Sanders to be candidate ffs :laugh:Agree. The whole race has been run and covered like a reality TV show, the Dems race has been heavily stacked for a Hillary win while the GOP deserve Trump candidacy as a reaction to the Tea party, Fox News and the many horrendous right wing talk shows. Who ever wins the election will start off as probably the most disliked President in history and America deserves that.

the truth
24-05-2016, 01:43 PM
trumps problems will come later

Clintons strength is even though shes a dreadful candidate, she has Obama and probably sanders on her side , perhaps sanders as a running mate...and bill Clinton, who is a phenomenal speaker and still very popular with many people. trump really has problems with getting backers who can garner that kind of mass support

GiRTh
25-05-2016, 07:14 PM
Hillary Bad Poll Results Against Trump? She Blames Bernie (http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Clinton-Allies-Blame-Sanders/2016/05/24/id/730351/)

:joker:

Its taken Hillary's camp about a week to acknowledge the lead has actually gone and now they've done that they've blamed Bernie. :facepalm:

No the reasons the lead is gone is cuz Mrs Clinton is a horrible candidate. I'm waiting for the grand jury deposition to drop. I bet the timing of them is gonna be perfect to further discredit her.

bots
25-05-2016, 08:36 PM
Hillary Bad Poll Results Against Trump? She Blames Bernie (http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Clinton-Allies-Blame-Sanders/2016/05/24/id/730351/)

:joker:

Its taken Hillary's camp about a week to acknowledge the lead has actually gone and now they've done that they've blamed Bernie. :facepalm:

No the reasons the lead is gone is cuz Mrs Clinton is a horrible candidate. I'm waiting for the grand jury deposition to drop. I bet the timing of them is gonna be perfect to further discredit her.

She couldn't really blame Trump for taking the lead, and she wasn't going to blame herself so the only one left is Bernie :joker:

the truth
25-05-2016, 11:56 PM
I like Bernie , but trump is a man of his time and he has arrived at the right moment. radical islam is simply frightening the hell out of the whole world now

Ammi
26-05-2016, 04:10 AM
...Bernie needs to be ashamed of himself for thinking that any type of integrity or ideals would ever be a part of this farce, I reckon...silly man...



...(I guess the thing that she seems as dodgy as anything and quite unpleasant and unlikeable as a person, was never an issue though...)...

MTVN
26-05-2016, 06:00 AM
tbf its been the case for weeks now that Bernie has no chance at all of beating Hilary and still he battles on which is only going to divide the Democrat party more than it already is. Cruz probably stood a better chance of being the Republican nominee when he dropped out than Bernie does now. I can understand why Hilary supporters are saying 'you've had a good run old man but you've lost and its time for the party to unite behind their candidate'

GiRTh
26-05-2016, 06:11 AM
Both candidates are terrible. Its no surprise there is disharmony on both sides. The difference for me is that Trump actually got the popular, man on the street, vote. Bernie has been shut out of this election by the media. They would rather show an empty trump podium than Bernie giving a winners speech. When Bernie finally started getting his idea out there Hillary found she wasnt as popular as she thought.,

joeysteele
26-05-2016, 09:04 AM
tbf its been the case for weeks now that Bernie has no chance at all of beating Hilary and still he battles on which is only going to divide the Democrat party more than it already is. Cruz probably stood a better chance of being the Republican nominee when he dropped out than Bernie does now. I can understand why Hilary supporters are saying 'you've had a good run old man but you've lost and its time for the party to unite behind their candidate'

I agree, with trump in all sorts of controversy you are right to say for the sake of presenting a Democratic Party united,Sanders should just look realistically at how far behind Hillary he is, and concede gracefully.

billy123
26-05-2016, 09:49 AM
Part of me wants him to win presidency so stupid people can get a reminder of why far right racism isnt a good idea.
I think a bit of short term pain might be good for the USA and also might serve as a warning for other countries around the world that seem to have regressed and become intolerant of others as well (including the UK).

the truth
26-05-2016, 11:23 AM
tbf its been the case for weeks now that Bernie has no chance at all of beating Hilary and still he battles on which is only going to divide the Democrat party more than it already is. Cruz probably stood a better chance of being the Republican nominee when he dropped out than Bernie does now. I can understand why Hilary supporters are saying 'you've had a good run old man but you've lost and its time for the party to unite behind their candidate'
ageist

the truth
26-05-2016, 11:27 AM
Part of me wants him to win presidency so stupid people can get a reminder of why far right racism isnt a good idea.
I think a bit of short term pain might be good for the USA and also might serve as a warning for other countries around the world that seem to have regressed and become intolerant of others as well (including the UK).

Is it worse than the far left appeasement and racism in europe? Really? Terrorism millions of illegal immigrants mass bomb scares to our children every day open unchecked borders beheadings for cartoons, were smugly sleepwalking into armageddon

billy123
26-05-2016, 02:13 PM
Is it worse than the far left appeasement and racism in europe? Really? Terrorism millions of illegal immigrants mass bomb scares to our children every day open unchecked borders beheadings for cartoons, were smugly sleepwalking into armageddonYes.
Fear v Love. Dont be scared honey.
Especially dont be scared about things that dont exist.
Psst! that big bad bogieman you seem to be running from. He was made up by politicians that are just as scared but they are scared about losing the money they receive.

Livia
26-05-2016, 02:15 PM
I find it hard to believe that anyone would be backing Trump. He's a arsehole. People moan about over-privileged, out of touch politicians in this country... and then there's Trump.

arista
26-05-2016, 02:42 PM
I find it hard to believe that anyone would be backing Trump. He's a arsehole. People moan about over-privileged, out of touch politicians in this country... and then there's Trump.



Working Class Americans
back Trump and Bernie Saunders

They Hate Clinton Bitch

the truth
26-05-2016, 03:18 PM
Trump will win. The destruction of Europe will make it easier

arista
26-05-2016, 05:24 PM
Trump has now Reached his High Numbers

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7176968/Donald-Trump-clinches-Republican-presidential-nomination-after-admitting-hes-not-always-who-he-says-he-is.html

GiRTh
26-05-2016, 06:04 PM
I find it hard to believe that anyone would be backing Trump. He's a arsehole. People moan about over-privileged, out of touch politicians in this country... and then there's Trump.In February he thanked the poorly educated for supporting him. It was a little hint as to who Trump appeals to.

Johnnyuk123
26-05-2016, 06:14 PM
Trump will win. The destruction of Europe will make it easier

I really hope he does win. Time for change i say and Donald is the man to get things done! :cheer2:

joeysteele
26-05-2016, 09:32 PM
I find it hard to believe that anyone would be backing Trump. He's a arsehole. People moan about over-privileged, out of touch politicians in this country... and then there's Trump.

This says all about him for me.

the truth
26-05-2016, 10:07 PM
In February he thanked the poorly educated for supporting him. It was a little hint as to who Trump appeals to.

he also thanked women, men, veterans, Mexican immigrants etc etc love your selective memory and biased editing

MTVN
26-05-2016, 10:37 PM
In February he thanked the poorly educated for supporting him. It was a little hint as to who Trump appeals to.

But then so what really. That was more of a dig at categorising people in that way to suggest they're not capable of making their own decision. Having a university education doesn't mean your opinion is more valid after all. And ultimately the only thing that matters is 'a vote is a vote', whatever your background.

GiRTh
26-05-2016, 10:58 PM
he also thanked women, men, veterans, Mexican immigrants etc etc love your selective memory and biased editingBut why mention the level of people education. It was an odd thing to say.

But then so what really. That was more of a dig at categorising people in that way to suggest they're not capable of making their own decision. Having a university education doesn't mean your opinion is more valid after all. And ultimately the only thing that matters is 'a vote is a vote', whatever your background.Ask him that. He was the one who said 'I love the poorly educated' and “We won with poorly educated,” not me. Again, why single out that group for special mention?

MTVN
26-05-2016, 11:03 PM
Ask him that. He was the one who said 'I love the poorly educated' and “We won with poorly educated,” not me. Again, why single out that group for special mention?

Well he was basically just reciting the demographic groups that he had been told he was doing well with, was quite a humorous comment really

GiRTh
26-05-2016, 11:09 PM
Well he was basically just reciting the demographic groups that he had been told he was doing well with, was quite a humorous comment reallyIf its was a joke then clearly Trumps humour is too subtle for me. Particularly when his campaign has taken the stance its taken. I've watched his shows, his humour isn't that subtle.

MTVN
26-05-2016, 11:10 PM
The Donald does not have to intend it as a joke for it to be humorous

GiRTh
26-05-2016, 11:11 PM
The Donald does not have to intend it as a joke for it to be humorousVery true.

MTVN
26-05-2016, 11:12 PM
I actually bought this yesterday, I can lend it to you sometime Girth

http://covers.booktopia.com.au/big/9781911042389/the-little-book-of-trumpisms.jpg

GiRTh
26-05-2016, 11:13 PM
You paid actual money for that?

MTVN
26-05-2016, 11:16 PM
£4.50, worth every penny

GiRTh
26-05-2016, 11:18 PM
Give us a few of the best ones.

£4.50 eh:shocked:

MTVN
26-05-2016, 11:28 PM
The Donald on gay marriage: 'It's like in golf a lot of people are switching to these really long putters, very unattractive...Its weird, you see these great players with these really long putters, because they can't sink three-footers anymore. And I hate it. I am a traditionalist. I have so many fabulous friends who happen to be gay but I am a traditionalist'

'I dealt with Gaddafi. I rented him a piece of land. He paid me more for one night than the land was worth for a whole year and then I didn't let him use the land. That's what we should be doing. I don't want to use the word 'screwed' but I screwed him'

On overseas aid: 'We go overseas, we build a school, we build a road, they blow up the school, we build another school, we build another road, they blow them up again. In the meantime we can't get a ****ing school in Brooklyn'

Also a few rantings about how he wants more global warming because hes too cold

Thankfully I am early in the book and have many words of wisdom to come across yet

GiRTh
26-05-2016, 11:31 PM
The Donald on gay marriage: 'It's like in golf a lot of people are switching to these really long putters, very unattractive...Its weird, you see these great players with these really long putters, because they can't sink three-footers anymore. And I hate it. I am a traditionalist. I have so many fabulous friends who happen to be gay but I am a traditionalist'

'I dealt with Gaddafi. I rented him a piece of land. He paid me more for one night than the land was worth for a whole year and then I didn't let him use the land. That's what we should be doing. I don't want to use the word 'screwed' but I screwed him'

On overseas aid: 'We go overseas, we build a school, we build a road, they blow up the school, we build another school, we build another road, they blow them up again. In the meantime we can't get a ****ing school in Brooklyn'

Also a few rantings about how he wants more global warming because hes too cold

Thankfully I am early in the book and have many words of wisdom to come across yet:joker::joker::joker::joker:

Only $4.50 you say. Might get a copy after all. :joker:

GiRTh
26-05-2016, 11:34 PM
wlXHN2qvCTc

Officials say Hillary didnt ask for clearance for her 'private' server while Sos and if she had applied it would have been denied. There may be no story here at all but it has been confirmed she has deleted tens of thousands of e-mails from the server.

Again, the Clintons look like they're hiding something.

Brother Leon
27-05-2016, 12:07 AM
Trump has accepted Bernie's challenge to a debate and actually came across very well doing so tbf.

the truth
27-05-2016, 01:40 AM
The Donald on gay marriage: 'It's like in golf a lot of people are switching to these really long putters, very unattractive...Its weird, you see these great players with these really long putters, because they can't sink three-footers anymore. And I hate it. I am a traditionalist. I have so many fabulous friends who happen to be gay but I am a traditionalist'

'I dealt with Gaddafi. I rented him a piece of land. He paid me more for one night than the land was worth for a whole year and then I didn't let him use the land. That's what we should be doing. I don't want to use the word 'screwed' but I screwed him'

On overseas aid: 'We go overseas, we build a school, we build a road, they blow up the school, we build another school, we build another road, they blow them up again. In the meantime we can't get a ****ing school in Brooklyn'

Also a few rantings about how he wants more global warming because hes too cold

Thankfully I am early in the book and have many words of wisdom to come across yet

the mans a genius :joker:

GiRTh
29-05-2016, 07:45 PM
0ftsRypMBQ8

Excellent video. The Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Shultz has been talking a lot of sh*t about violence at Bernies Nevada rally that we now know not to be true. Debbie Wasserman Shultz is a known Hillary Clinton supporter who was a part of her staff during her run in 2008. Good to see some sections of the media reporting how the DNC establishment have shut out Bernie and have tried to discredit him with every opportunity.

GiRTh
29-05-2016, 07:52 PM
Thousands Call on DNC to Oust 'Corporatist Tool' Wasserman Schultz

More than 40,000 people have signed a petition calling on the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to remove embattled chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who has faced increasing criticism over her leadership of the party in the 2016 election cycle.

The petition, organized by the grassroots group RootsAction.org, castigates Wasserman Schultz for what the group describes as an attempt to "minimize competition for her candidate Hillary Clinton" and for her actions in U.S. Congress as "a pro-militarist and corporatist tool of the high bidders."

"The head of one of the two big political parties in the United States is trying to choose its nominee by reducing input from voters," the petition states, charging that Wasserman Schultz blocked the Bernie Sanders campaign from accessing its own voter files.

RootsAction.org co-founder Norman Solomon said Sunday, "Wasserman Schultz has become a key operative and symbol of aversion to democracy at the top of the Democratic Party. Her removal as chair of the national party is necessary—though certainly insufficient—to shift the momentum in a positive direction."

Co-founder Jeff Cohen added, "The results, thus far, have been bad from the perspective of Wasserman Schultz's own party, including domination of the media's extensive election coverage by the other big party."

Cohen also noted that as polls continue to show that Sanders is the most formidable candidate against the presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump, the DNC may only be hurting itself by tamping down the Vermont senator's campaign.

"Another result has been reduced exposure for the Democratic candidate polling strongest against Republican rivals, Bernie Sanders," Cohen said.

The petition circulates as top Democratic Party insiders reportedly continue to discuss whether Wasserman Schultz has become "too toxic" to remain as DNC chair—and whether she should be removed before this summer's nominating convention in Philadelphia.

"There's a strong sentiment that the current situation is untenable and can only be fixed by her leaving," a senior Democratic aide told The Hill last week. "There's too much water under the bridge for her to be a neutral arbiter."

LINK (http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/05/29/thousands-call-dnc-oust-corporatist-tool-wasserman-schultz)

:clap1:

Johnnyuk123
29-05-2016, 08:57 PM
0ftsRypMBQ8

Excellent video. The Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Shultz has been talking a lot of sh*t about violence at Bernies Nevada rally that we now know not to be true. Debbie Wasserman Shultz is a known Hillary Clinton supporter who was a part of her staff during her run in 2008. Good to see some sections of the media reporting how the DNC establishment have shut out Bernie and have tried to discredit him with every opportunity.

I've just watched the video and i now love him even more and want Donald to win. He will make such a huge difference to the USA in a very positive way 100%.

GiRTh
30-05-2016, 12:41 AM
YSPDuMWkvak

Another excellent vid.

I was not aware there were only 4 debates between the Democratic candidates sanctioned by the DNC in this Primary election cycle. Usually there are 15-20, as the Republicans had, and in 2008 there were more than 25 Tv debates between Obama and Hillary. Why so few?

I think its clear from that stat alone some people in the DNC didnt want too much exposure for all the candidates.

Ammi
30-05-2016, 07:27 AM
..some interesting vids, Girth...there was Hilary playing the establishment game and Trump playing the media game and Bernie just being true to his values and not playing any game at all, yet still the need to discredit him...I don't guess that Debbie Wasserman Schultz cares about the petition though or that her bias is being shown because isn't her term up soon..?...(I don't actually know much about her../her political background so I'll research a little..)...

GiRTh
30-05-2016, 07:55 AM
Bernies said he's going to fire her if he becomes President. Sadly I dont think he'll get the chance as the common consensus is, due to her ties to the Clintons, she'll be a major part of a Clinton administration.

the truth
30-05-2016, 05:16 PM
How the hell could anyone vote hilary over bernie? It beggars belief

T*
30-05-2016, 05:57 PM
That was not the same

He had Evil Gas Chambers
and filled them with Evil Gas,
Murdering millions
in secret , at first.
Evil Master Plan

The holocaust was the last thing he did to the Jews.. At first he made their lives miserable little by little by doing stuff like the badges and also Kristallnacht.
It wasn't 'at first' at all!

GiRTh
02-06-2016, 07:13 PM
North Korea says Trump isn't screwy at all, a wise choice for president (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-trump-idUSKCN0YN35S)

North Korea praises Trump and urges US voters to reject 'dull Hillary' (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/31/north-korea-praises-trump-and-urges-us-voters-to-reject-dull-hillary)

Kim Jong Un is a Trump supporter and cant wait for him to become President. As if there wasn't already enough good reasons for The Donald to never ever get the job.

GiRTh
02-06-2016, 08:35 PM
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Excellent video. :clap1::clap1::clap1:

Love the way she quietly makes her case against the patronising pundits and interviewer.

Ammi
03-06-2016, 06:02 AM
...Yahne Ndgo, how simply she puts it all..:lovedup:...people not trusting Hilary has 'unfortunately been her biggest vulnerability'...:laugh:..hmmm, it's a pretty darn big 'vulnerability' and huge flaw/issue for someone who may become president of the USA, one of the most powerful figures in the world...

the truth
03-06-2016, 12:55 PM
shes a corporate lackey , a liar, a warmonger and a coward

bots
03-06-2016, 02:22 PM
shes a corporate lackey , a liar, a warmonger and a coward

and a thoroughly unlikeable, unpleasant person

the truth
03-06-2016, 02:26 PM
and a thoroughly unlikeable, unpleasant person
everything about her is fake, even when she pretends she wants to debate issues and rise above trumps insults....she is getting corporations and tax payers money to spend tens of millions on poisonous adverts. The fact she called bernie sexist simply for stopping her interrupting is reverse sexism and a big fat lie and devalues true sexism and bigotry in the world. Then again everything she says and stands for is a lie, the illegal iraq , afghan, syrian, lybian wars she has millions of peoples blood on her hands...not to forget benghazi, email cover ups, corporate pay offs, she is mega right wing thats the truth and will enslave us all to endless war, cover ups and corporations

Vanessa
03-06-2016, 02:26 PM
I do like Donald Trump. He's a self made man and a very clever businessman. I'm just not sure he would make a good President. :suspect:

rk3388
03-06-2016, 02:38 PM
I do like Donald Trump. He's a self made man and a very clever businessman. I'm just not sure he would make a good President. :suspect:

I would not say Trump is "self made". He comes from a rich family- just remembering his infamous quote of his dad giving him "a small loan of a million dollars". I actually detest him and all that he stands for. Just the fact that he has a chance to become president of the United States makes me fear for humanity.

On the otherhand, Bernie grew up in an apartment in Brooklyn, so definitely think he has had to work way harder for where he is at today.

Vanessa
03-06-2016, 02:42 PM
I would not say Trump is "self made". He comes from a rich family- just remembering his infamous quote of his dad giving him "a small loan of a million dollars". I actually detest him and all that he stands for. Just the fact that he has a chance to become president of the United States makes me fear for humanity.

On the otherhand, Bernie grew up in an apartment in Brooklyn, so definitely think he has had to work way harder for where he is at today.

For some reason the public seem to prefer Donald Trump. :laugh:

rk3388
03-06-2016, 02:52 PM
For some reason the public seem to prefer Donald Trump. :laugh:

Polls have shown that if it were Bernie vs Trump in the election, Bernie would win by a bigger margin than Trump and Hillary.

He does have a large support system from die-hard Republicans, racists and from his very wealthy funders. I feel especially that money has had a huge impact on both Trump and Hillary's campaigns

Vanessa
03-06-2016, 02:56 PM
Polls have shown that if it were Bernie vs Trump in the election, Bernie would win by a bigger margin than Trump and Hillary.

He does have a large support system from die-hard Republicans, racists and from his very wealthy funders. I feel especially that money has had a huge impact on both Trump and Hillary's campaigns

Oh I hope he wins.

the truth
03-06-2016, 03:03 PM
I would not say Trump is "self made". He comes from a rich family- just remembering his infamous quote of his dad giving him "a small loan of a million dollars". I actually detest him and all that he stands for. Just the fact that he has a chance to become president of the United States makes me fear for humanity.

On the otherhand, Bernie grew up in an apartment in Brooklyn, so definitely think he has had to work way harder for where he is at today.

nernie is my favourite by miles. crooked hilary and the democrats have stolen it from him undemocratically hes even won more states and is still way behind

trump is way better than hilary , he is against corporate takeoevers, he will keep the social security the same, he will charge us firms who take millions of their jobs overseas, he will raise tariffs on them and other corrupt importers such as chinses steel which pays slave wages , pollutes the planet and produces rubbish. he will protect the citizens more from terrorism and from the worst criminals amongst the millions of illegal immigrants. hes a fantastic businessman who gets things done. he turned a 1 million dollar loan into 5 billion dollars. he doesnt even need to bother with this , but hes a patriot and wants the save america from its 20 trillion debts

GiRTh
03-06-2016, 06:41 PM
u55kRvLie7oHillary has federal indictments hanging over her with the unauthorized private e-mails and server and now after digging just a little in 'Trump' University the findings have shown it was text book fraud. Two terrible candidates with skeltons in the closet are apparently the best candidates. America deserves them both.

GiRTh
03-06-2016, 06:55 PM
Former Trump University Workers Call the School a ‘Lie’ and a ‘Scheme’ in Testimony

In blunt testimony revealed on Tuesday, former managers of Trump University, the for-profit school started by Donald J. Trump, portray it as an unscrupulous business that relied on high-pressure sales tactics, employed unqualified instructors, made deceptive claims and exploited vulnerable students willing to pay tens of thousands for Mr. Trump’s insights.

One sales manager for Trump University, Ronald Schnackenberg, recounted how he was reprimanded for not pushing a financially struggling couple hard enough to sign up for a $35,000 real estate class, despite his conclusion that it would endanger their economic future. He watched with disgust, he said, as a fellow Trump University salesman persuaded the couple to purchase the class anyway.

“I believe that Trump University was a fraudulent scheme,” Mr. Schnackenberg wrote in his testimony, “and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.”

For Mr. Trump, whose presidential campaign hinges on his reputation as a businessman, the newly unsealed documents offer an unflattering snapshot of his career since branching out, over the past decade, from building skyscrapers into endeavors that cashed in on his name to sell everything from water and steaks to ties and education.

The release of the documents on Tuesday, under court order, was the latest turn in a federal lawsuit, filed in California by dissatisfied former Trump University students, that has bedeviled the businessman since 2010 and could trail him into the White House if he is elected president.

Mr. Trump, who started the university in 2005, owned 93 percent of the now-defunct company. From the start, he acted as its chief promoter, rather than day-to-day manager, selling it as a tool of financial empowerment that would improve life for thousands of ordinary Americans. It would, he said, “teach you better than the best business school,” according to the transcript of a Web video.

Within the documents made public Tuesday were internal employee guides encouraging customers with little money to pay for the tuition with their credit cards. “We teach the technique of using OPM ... Other People’s Money,” explained the internal instructions for salespeople. The documents pushed employees to exploit the emotions of potential customers. “Let them know you’ve found an answer to their problems,” read confidential instructions to salespeople.

The most striking documents were written testimony from former employees of Trump University who said they had become disenchanted with the university’s tactics and culture. Corrine Sommer, an event manager, recounted how colleagues encouraged students to open up as many credit cards as possible to pay for classes that many of them could not afford.

It’s O.K., just max out your credit card,” Ms. Sommer recalled their saying.

Jason Nicholas, a sales executive at Trump University, recalled a deceptive pitch used to lure students — that Mr. Trump would be “actively involved” in their education. “This was not true,” Mr. Nicholas testified, saying Mr. Trump was hardly involved at all. Trump University, Mr. Nicholas concluded, was “a facade, a total lie.”

Lawyers for Mr. Trump on Tuesday challenged those characterizations, saying that the testimony of the former Trump University employees “was completely discredited” in depositions taken for the California lawsuit. Lawyers for Mr. Trump declined to release those depositions on Tuesday.

As he has in the past, Mr. Trump argued through representatives that the complaints emanated from a small number of former students and that the vast majority had offered positive reviews of their experience.

“Trump University looks forward to using this evidence, along with much more, to win when the case is brought before a jury,” said Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for Mr. Trump.

The court records show the role that Mr. Trump — and his outsize reputation — played in trying to sell the real estate classes to thousands of students. Marketing materials bearing his signature encouraged prospective students to take advantage of a downturn in the housing market to earn quick profits. He offered the kind of assurances that financial advisers have long cautioned consumers to be wary of. “How would you like to market-proof your financial future,” Mr. Trump asked in one brochure.

Mr. Trump started the for-profit Trump University just as the overheated American housing market neared its peak, promising that its classes would impart his wisdom about real estate and moneymaking to the general public.

But dozens of complaints about the school rolled into the offices of attorneys general in Florida, Texas, New York and Illinois, officials said, prompting multiple investigations and, eventually, the lawsuit from former students in California.

Mr. Trump had fought Tuesday’s release of previously sealed documents in the case. In an apparent attempt to discredit the judge in the case, Gonzalo P. Curiel, Mr. Trump called him biased and a “hater of Donald Trump,” and he sought to draw attention to the judge’s ethnic background — “we believe Mexican,” Mr. Trump said. (Mr. Curiel was born in Indiana; he is of Mexican descent.)

On Friday, in response to a legal motion filed by The Washington Post, Judge Curiel ruled that the records be released. Some of the documents unsealed Tuesday were previously made public in connection with other lawsuits.

The internal guidebooks for employees of Trump University provide a detailed set of instructions for how to sell the classes, even to skeptical and reluctant consumers, by tapping into their psychological needs.

A chart outlines the stages of the “roller coaster of emotions” that a buyer will experience. (The “Blast” phase, it explains, is “giving your clients hope again.” The “Probe” phase, it says, must “slowly bring the client back down to reality.”)

When it comes to selling the classes, the guidebooks leave little to chance. Inside the rooms where students are asked to enroll in classes, workers are asked to “confirm that room temperature is no more than 68 degrees.”

Of course, Mr. Trump and the promise of his engagement with the school was the biggest draw of all. In the documents released Tuesday, instructors described themselves as “hand-selected” by Mr. Trump. But in a deposition related to the lawsuit, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he did not pick the instructors.

Not all the documents made public on Tuesday were critical. Many former students said the classes delivered exactly what they had expected. “Trump University definitely made me more prepared to tackle the ‘real world’ of real estate investing,” wrote David Wright Jr., who signed up for a six-month program. “We really learned a lot of from Trump University and have found a modicum of success,” wrote another student, Kissy Gordon.

Former employees like Ms. Sommer took a dimmer view of the school. In her testimony, she said she was startled by the qualifications of some Trump University instructors.

Ms. Sommer recalled that a member of the Trump University sales team, who had previously sold jewelry, was promoted to become an instructor. He had “no real estate experience,” she said.

She added that many of the instructors had the quality that the school seemed to value most: “They were skilled at high-pressure sales,” she said.

New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html)

Bit in bold made me laugh.

Brother Leon
03-06-2016, 08:18 PM
For some reason the public seem to prefer Donald Trump. :laugh:

Bernie beats Trump in all polls. Hilary and Trump is a lot more closer, but unfortunately that looks like what is going to happen.

Ammi
04-06-2016, 08:07 AM
Former Trump University Workers Call the School a ‘Lie’ and a ‘Scheme’ in Testimony



New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html)

Bit in bold made me laugh.

...the bit in bold made me smile as well..:laugh:..he's like a child whenever he has any criticism and just doesn't cope with it well at all, I mean just the ideal character trait for the USA president and all.. and those pesky Mexican descendants, becoming judges and such now, eh...that's what happens when you don't have a wall/the cheeky rascals..:fist:...

joeysteele
04-06-2016, 08:51 AM
Trump will likely win a lot of smaller States but Hillary will take the really big ones I think and hope.

I cannot believe the USA could be even just in a small way thinking about electing Trump to the Presidency.

Northern Monkey
04-06-2016, 09:12 AM
Trump will likely win a lot of smaller States but Hillary will take the really big ones I think and hope.

I cannot believe the USA could be even just in a small way thinking about electing Trump to the Presidency.It's a tough choice.I'm scared Hilary will lead us into WW3.

joeysteele
04-06-2016, 09:15 AM
It's a tough choice.I'm scared Hilary will lead us into WW3.

I like Hillary,I think she was a really good Secretary of State for Obama.
She'd get my vote this time round if I was an American.

The one I wouldn't trust an inch is Trump.

Northern Monkey
04-06-2016, 09:19 AM
I like Hillary,I think she was a really good Secretary of State for Obama.
She'd get my vote this time round if I was an American.

The one I wouldn't trust an inch is Trump.If i was an American i honestly don't think i would be voting.I could'nt choose between those two.

Cherie
04-06-2016, 09:20 AM
If i was an American i honestly don't think i would be voting.I could'nt choose between those two.

Same

GiRTh
04-06-2016, 09:24 AM
Same
X3

Praying for Bernie to run as a third party candidate.

arista
04-06-2016, 10:14 AM
It's a tough choice.I'm scared Hilary will lead us into WW3.





unless she does Not make it to
Nov.

If she does Not ,
Bernie can Try

GiRTh
08-06-2016, 03:04 AM
J4SRfwupY8YTrumps attack on the 'Mexican' judge presiding in the Trump University case seem to be taking traction. The judge is of Mexican ancestry but was actually born in Indiana and his family has resided in the USA longer than Trumps family.

Surely people mus see Trump cannot bring this kind of thin skin into the highest offices in the world.

Liberty4eva
08-06-2016, 03:16 AM
J4SRfwupY8YTrumps attack on the 'Mexican' judge presiding in the Trump University case seem to be taking traction. The judge is of Mexican ancestry but was actually born in Indiana and his family has resided in the USA longer than Trumps family.

Surely people mus see Trump cannot bring this kind of thin skin into the highest offices in the world.

The judge is/was a member of La Raza (which is spanish for the race). He is a Mexican supremacist even if he was born in America.

GiRTh
08-06-2016, 03:20 AM
The judge is/was a member of La Raza (which is spanish for the race). He is a Mexican supremacist even if he was born in America.Do you have links proving what this organisation stands for?

Liberty4eva
08-06-2016, 03:30 AM
Do you have links proving what this organisation stands for?

:rolleyes: Just do an internet search or, better yet, go to youtube and find some videos explaining what La Raza is. They are the Mexican version of KKK.

GiRTh
08-06-2016, 03:35 AM
:rolleyes: Just do an internet search or, better yet, go to youtube and find some videos explaining what La Raza is. They are the Mexican version of KKK.Done that and cant find anything on any reputable site. On many right wing sites but certainly nothing that can be believed. From that I have found the judge is a member of a law society that has some ties to the organisaton. Do you have any better?.

Liberty4eva
08-06-2016, 03:44 AM
Done that and cant find anything on any reputable site. On many right wing sites but certainly nothing that can be believed. From that I have found the judge is a member of a law society that has some ties to the organisaton. Do you have any better?.

You might as well ask me for proof that the sky is blue or that the grass is green. Do you know how silly you sound asking me for proof that a group calling itself The Race is indeed racist and unAmerican? It's like you are trying to live in an Alice in Wonderland movie where up is down and north is south.

GiRTh
08-06-2016, 03:51 AM
You might as well ask me for proof that the sky is blue or that the grass is green. Do you know how silly you sound asking me for proof that a group calling itself The Race is indeed racist and unAmerican? It's like you are trying to live in an Alice in Wonderland movie where up is down and north is south.There are about 30 years of dodgy comments made by Trump that some claim to be racially charged. You make that accusation on this forum and there will be threads with dozens of pages of posters springing to Trumps defence. You are making a very serious claim. The Washington Post claims this is not true. Can you prove your claim or not?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/06/07/trump-supporters-false-claim-that-trump-u-judge-is-a-member-of-a-pro-immigrant-group/

Liberty4eva
08-06-2016, 04:20 AM
There are about 30 years of dodgy comments made by Trump that some claim to be racially charged. You make that accusation on this forum and there will be threads with dozens of pages of posters springing to Trumps defence. You are making a very serious claim. The Washington Post claims this is not true. Can you prove your claim or not?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/06/07/trump-supporters-false-claim-that-trump-u-judge-is-a-member-of-a-pro-immigrant-group/

It does not surprise me at all that there will be some stories trying to muddy the waters over this issue. I think it's really bold of them to try to normalize organisations that use "La Raza" like it's not a big deal. You and I both know that if any white judge or white person in power was in a group that uses "race" in its title it would be a big deal. It's one of the many double standards in society. Look, at this point I wouldn't dare give you proof because it's clear that you like being in your world. Enjoy.

GiRTh
08-06-2016, 04:23 AM
It does not surprise me at all that there will be some stories trying to muddy the waters over this issue. I think it's really bold of them to try to normalize organisations that use "La Raza" like it's not a big deal. You and I both know that if any white judge or white person in power was in a group that uses "race" in its title it would be a big deal. It's one of the many double standards in society. Look, at this point I wouldn't dare give you proof because it's clear that you like being in your world. Enjoy.My World :joker: Ok Fair enough.

Doesnt seem like they are the same organization but if you say so :thumbs:

Brother Leon
08-06-2016, 02:52 PM
Hilary wins California. That should be that :(. Bloody hell, what two candidates to choose from for Americans :joker:

arista
08-06-2016, 03:23 PM
Hilary wins California. That should be that :(. Bloody hell, what two candidates to choose from for Americans :joker:



Bernie won 2 states
and is staying in the race
in case Clinton Bitch has a Heart Attack
or something

bots
08-06-2016, 03:29 PM
Donald gets a makeover

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/15979/production/_89914488_trumpmeryl.jpg

GiRTh
08-06-2016, 04:06 PM
Bernie won 2 states
and is staying in the race
in case Clinton Bitch has a Heart Attack
or somethingSo he should. Take as many votes from Hillary as he can then run as a third party candidate.

joeysteele
08-06-2016, 07:35 PM
Hopefully the tide now swings back to Hillary Clinton against Trump now and I think it will too.

Bernie Sanders is being a little foolish here, she is over 900 delegates ahead of him with only about 160 left to come in.
His right to go to the end I guess but in my view foolish none-the-less.

empire
08-06-2016, 07:39 PM
americans sing, in trump we trust,

GiRTh
08-06-2016, 09:37 PM
Hopefully the tide now swings back to Hillary Clinton against Trump now and I think it will too.

Bernie Sanders is being a little foolish here, she is over 900 delegates ahead of him with only about 160 left to come in.
His right to go to the end I guess but in my view foolish none-the-less.
Just like Hillary in 2008 against Obama. She hung on to the bitter end, even after the majority of delegates had left her and gone to him and didnt she make a comment that she was doing so cuz he might be assassinated?. Dont agree, Bernie still has many points to make and I hope he keeps getting his message out there.

bots
08-06-2016, 10:04 PM
So he should. Take as many votes from Hillary as he can then run as a third party candidate.

i would like to see that happen, however, would that split their vote leaving Trump a clear winner?

joeysteele
08-06-2016, 10:51 PM
Just like Hillary in 2008 against Obama. She hung on to the bitter end, even after the majority of delegates had left her and gone to him and didnt she make a comment that she was doing so cuz he might be assassinated?. Dont agree, Bernie still has many points to make and I hope he keeps getting his message out there.

Not my recollection of that being the same as this one.
Yes to Hillary Clinton staying to the end but she finished up with only about 400 less delegates than Obama that year.

Bernie Sanders with respect is over 900 behind Clinton now with barely 160 delegates left to come in.

He is miles behind Hillary compared to the position she was in against Obama in 2008.

GiRTh
08-06-2016, 10:59 PM
Not my recollection of that being the same as this one.
Yes to Hillary Clinton staying to the end but she finished up with only about 400 less delegates than Obama that year.

Bernie Sanders with respect is over 900 behind Clinton now with barely 160 delegates left to come in.

He is miles behind Hillary compared to the position she was in against Obama in 2008.In 2008 over 100 delegates flipped from her to Obama within a week. At that point she was beaten; if she was a Democratic party lover then she should have dropped out, but she didnt. She even kept going for four days after Obama was confirmed as the nominee and it was in those four days that she made the horrendous assassination comment. Seems quite similar in my opinion and she's an establishment figure, Bernie isnt. Bernie knows there is no place for him in any Clinton administration so I think its right for him to fight on.

Brother Leon
09-06-2016, 03:49 AM
Hopefully the tide now swings back to Hillary Clinton against Trump now and I think it will too.

Bernie Sanders is being a little foolish here, she is over 900 delegates ahead of him with only about 160 left to come in.
His right to go to the end I guess but in my view foolish none-the-less.

Bernie will keep spreading his message, as he deserves to and should.

joeysteele
09-06-2016, 08:33 AM
Bernie will keep spreading his message, as he deserves to and should.

Of course he should but he is a Democrat and will not harm his party.

The gap between him and Clinton is more than already double as to won delegates than was the final gap between Hillary Clinton and Obama in 2008.
There is no likelihood of delegates switching support now as to that.

Especially with Hillary Clinton very comfortably winning the largest State California, over Bernie Sanders by 57% to 43%.

Of course he should present his message and vision but admitting defeat wouldn't alter that at this now final stage of the primaries.

Crimson Dynamo
21-06-2016, 06:19 PM
J9AwptSysXY

Some straight talking from Donald

:clap1:

GiRTh
21-06-2016, 07:08 PM
You just watched that? You're about a week too late. This speech is burying his campaign so it definitely gets a :clap1: from me too.

letmein
21-06-2016, 08:59 PM
Poor Trump's campaign is broke. Hill is annihilating him left and right. Everyone is jumping ship. He only has $1 million in cash to her $40 million. lol. He is so ****ing screwed. Republicans are looking to dump him. The GOP can't even get companies to back the Republican National Convention this year.

All the money Trump's been raising is going to his companies, not his campaign. He is such a fraud.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-campaign-cycles-6-million-trump-companies-080734925--finance.html

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516448_601906306657915_9143245527933715417_n.jpg ?oh=6a3527edcf7e65d34b2f539bc11714c1&oe=57DA73BD

Republicans are going to get destroyed this year. Trump is hurting candidates down the ticket in Congress.

GiRTh
21-06-2016, 09:16 PM
J9AwptSysXY

Some straight talking from Donald

:clap1:The vid has been removed by the user.

GiRTh
21-06-2016, 09:18 PM
Poor Trump's campaign is broke. Hill is annihilating him left and right. Everyone is jumping ship. He only has $1 million in cash to her $40 million. lol. He is so ****ing screwed. Republicans are looking to dump him. The GOP can't even get companies to back the Republican National Convention this year.

All the money Trump's been raising is going to his companies, not his campaign. He is such a fraud.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-campaign-cycles-6-million-trump-companies-080734925--finance.html

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516448_601906306657915_9143245527933715417_n.jpg ?oh=6a3527edcf7e65d34b2f539bc11714c1&oe=57DA73BD

Republicans are going to get destroyed this year. Trump is hurting candidates down the ticket in Congress.I saw that he was running out of money. Not surprising as he has clearly over estimated the value of his business and is worth no where near 10 billion

the truth
21-06-2016, 09:42 PM
trump can turn it round but he simply needs to keep saying the truth. he also has to rationalise his position on immigration and guns

DemolitionRed
21-06-2016, 09:50 PM
One gets the feeling Trump never really intended to get this far. Is it possible his campaign was really nothing but a gigantic publicity stunt to up the value of his main product, licensing his name? Now here he is and he really doesn't have a clue what to do, but he's on the ego trip of his life.

the truth
21-06-2016, 10:07 PM
lol but trump, despite a disastrous week has a few aces

1) anti political hatred totally justified
2) hes a genius businessman with enormous contacts and experienced knowledge of successful business people
3) hes right on trade for 30 years, the politicians are only now catching up
4) he has exposed a yellow under belly bordering on treasonous in the democratic party who have failed on isis and illegal immigration and population rises
5) killary is the worst democratic candidate in history
6) he has a fantastic family lots of good advisors too

but the guns and ott rhetoric has ruined it for him, a total ban on all muslims, temporary or not, is insane

GiRTh
21-06-2016, 10:23 PM
trump can turn it round but he simply needs to keep saying the truth. he also has to rationalise his position on immigration and guns
The actual truth or the truth as he sees it? No one other than Trump stood to gain from discrediting the judge so what was so true about that? The truth to Trump seems to be based on paranoia and conspiracy theories.

Liberty4eva
22-06-2016, 12:04 AM
More bad news for Trump. One of his biggest radio talk-show host supporters just turned on him and is now encouraging his listeners to vote for Hillary. :bawling:

Qt6UunbXnww

letmein
22-06-2016, 12:41 AM
Donald Trump favorable: 29%, unfavorable: 70%
Whites (39/59)
Blacks (4/94)
Hispanics (11/89)
Non-White Other (12/88)

Quinnipiac:

Florida: Clinton 47%, Trump 39% (Clinton +8)
Ohio: Clinton 41%, Trump 41% (Even)
Pennsylvania: Clinton 42%, Trump 41% (Clinton +1)

There is no way forward for Donald Trump if he's that far behind in Florida; he could win New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, North Carolina, AND Colorado, and still lose the election by 12 Electoral Votes.

Poll: 70% have unfavorable opinion of Trump (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/15/politics/washington-post-abc-news-poll-unfavorable-ratings/)

The ads Clinton is running are so damaging, it's painful. They have so much dirt on him it's unbelievable, most of it on tape. Trump can't compete.

Then there's sh-t like this: Trump calls Belgium a city (http://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-belgium-is-a-beautiful-city-hellhole-us-presidential-election-2016-america/). Clinton pounced right on it.

No one wants to be Trump's VP either. He's going to end up with a buffoon like Chris Christie. He's pissed off everyone.