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andybigbro

31-01-2007, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Markus™
They shouldn't be treated any more differently then any one else. Just cause they have different desires to other men/women doesn't make them any less important.

Yeah i totally agree

We are all human but may like different things than to straight people

andybigbro

31-01-2007, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

Why would GOD want them dead

GOD loves Everyone

And even if they have different desires doesnt make them less human

Emilee

31-01-2007, 04:10 PM

I think it is disgusting the way gay/lesbians are discriminated against. Everyone is born Bisexual, and then when you are old enough you choose which sex you like. They are no different to hetrosexuals. Im glad the legal age for homosexual sex has dropped down to the normal age (16). It was just wrong having it older than that ust becuase you are homosexual.

Gay's and Lesbian's are people too, and should not be discriminated against.

Sophii3x

31-01-2007, 04:14 PM

They should be treated like any other person.
In school a boy admitted to being Bisexual and was picked on, kicked, and got called names by people. And what did the teachers do.. NOTHING

andybigbro

31-01-2007, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Emilee
I think it is disgusting the way gay/lesbians are discriminated against. Everyone is born Bisexual, and then when you are old enough you choose which sex you like. They are no different to hetrosexuals. Im glad the legal age for homosexual sex has dropped down to the normal age (16). It was just wrong having it older than that ust becuase you are homosexual.

Gay's and Lesbian's are people too, and should not be discriminated against.

Totally agree with you Emilee

Gays and Lesbeans have the right to do things in life and not be judged.

If a gay man wanted to marry another gay man its because they love each other wich is not any different to a girl and a man falling in love except the have the same Gender.

The_Hitman

31-01-2007, 04:15 PM

Lauren

31-01-2007, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

Civil Marriage?

I believe 10000000% that Gays & Lesbians should be given the right to anything that Straight people have.
So they have different sexual orientation - why should this affect anything else other than which way they go? It's ridiculous that in this day in age people are still judging people on something so trivial as which gender they feel sexually attracted to.
At the end of the day, we're all human beings.

easypeasy

31-01-2007, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

Why would GOD want them dead

GOD loves Everyone

And even if they have different desires doesnt make them less human
Leviticus 18:22

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

andybigbro

31-01-2007, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by easypeasy
Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

Why would GOD want them dead

GOD loves Everyone

And even if they have different desires doesnt make them less human
Leviticus 18:22

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Well then GOD is wrong

He is MEANT to love Everyone no matter what

easypeasy

31-01-2007, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

Civil Marriage?

I believe 10000000% that Gays & Lesbians should be given the right to anything that Straight people have.
So they have different sexual orientation - why should this affect anything else other than which way they go? It's ridiculous that in this day in age people are still judging people on something so trivial as which gender they feel sexually attracted to.
At the end of the day, we're all human beings. Civil marriage is understandable, yep I dont disagree with that. It brings the same financial security as a traditional marriage.

The_Hitman

31-01-2007, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by easypeasy
Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

Why would GOD want them dead

GOD loves Everyone

And even if they have different desires doesnt make them less human
Leviticus 18:22

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Well in ancient Greek society it was considered a more pure and righteous form of sex to do it man on man, than man on woman.

Though I get what youre saying easypeasy, Christian marriage should abide by the Bible. Which I agree with.

Lauren

31-01-2007, 04:29 PM

Not to get into a religious debate, but there are also Bible quotes showing that homosexuality "existed" within gods (Purposefully not capitalised, by the way) reign.

David & Jonathon's relationship in passages from Samuel?

1 Samuel 18:1

"...Jonathan became one in spirit with David and he loved him as himself."

The_Hitman

31-01-2007, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Lauren
Not to get into a religious debate, but there are also Bible quotes showing that homosexuality "existed" within gods (Purposefully not capitalised, by the way) reign.

David & Jonathon's relationship in passages from Samuel?

1 Samuel 18:1

"...Jonathan became one in spirit with David and he loved him as himself."

That doesnt mean he bummed him.

lily.

31-01-2007, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

Because marriage isn't about God. It's about making a commitment to each other.

Chrizzle

31-01-2007, 04:31 PM

Theres a certain group in my school which is like all bisexual. No one even cares. They all admit it.

Lauren

31-01-2007, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by Lauren
Not to get into a religious debate, but there are also Bible quotes showing that homosexuality "existed" within gods (Purposefully not capitalised, by the way) reign.

David & Jonathon's relationship in passages from Samuel?

1 Samuel 18:1

"...Jonathan became one in spirit with David and he loved him as himself."

That doesnt mean he bummed him.

As far as I was aware, relationships weren't about sex.

lily.

31-01-2007, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by The_Hitman
That doesnt mean he bummed him.

And the "comment of the week" award goes to............The Hitman... :laugh:

andybigbro

31-01-2007, 04:35 PM

lol PMSL

lily.

31-01-2007, 04:40 PM

I'm sorry to break the flow of the otherwise serious thread, but I was literally in stitches at that comment!

.. anyway.. continue debating..

andybigbro

31-01-2007, 04:45 PM

lol yeah

i think that they should be equeal because they still are humans

and why cant people acceot they are just into different things

easypeasy

31-01-2007, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by easypeasy
Originally posted by andybigbro
Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

Why would GOD want them dead

GOD loves Everyone

And even if they have different desires doesnt make them less human
Leviticus 18:22

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Well in ancient Greek society it was considered a more pure and righteous form of sex to do it man on man, than man on woman.

Though I get what youre saying easypeasy, Christian marriage should abide by the Bible. Which I agree with. yeah mate, like why are there so many gay vicars? why are there any gay vicars? lol

easypeasy

31-01-2007, 04:56 PM

Im Bisexual myself and not meaning to sound bigoted with my attitude.......

Psylocke

31-01-2007, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

Its not about God and Religion,its about Rights when it comes to Wills etc etc.

If partners are living together for 60 years and the bread winner dies,the person left behind is left with no rights when it comes to money etc,they are literally thrown out of there own house with no rights whatsoever.

Sunny_01

31-01-2007, 05:26 PM

Which bit if gay and lesbian rights are we debating?

Marriage - well I think that everyone has the right to be treated in a equal manner. I laugh at how things are in this country. The latest BIG thing is Equality and Diversity - however you can only be treated in a way that the government dictate as being politically correct, not in a way that is actually equal!!!

how about discrimination in the work place because of your sexuality? it still happens, look at how long it has taken for the armed forces to acknolwedge that you can still actually be in the services if you are gay! of course you know when you are gay you can not possibly fulfill your job as a soldier etc... and of course you will fancy the pants off every one of the same sex you come across which makes it hard for you or them to do their job!!! whatever lol

I think that gay and lesbians are discriminated against on a lot of levels and it is about time we stood up to discrimination - there you go I am putting my drum away for now :dance:

Psylocke

31-01-2007, 05:46 PM

I wonder if shilpa were a gay man,would the bullying be made such a big deal,if words like ****** were used etc.I dont think the government would give a crap.

Emilee

31-01-2007, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Originally posted by Emilee
I think it is disgusting the way gay/lesbians are discriminated against. Everyone is born Bisexual, and then when you are old enough you choose which sex you like. They are no different to hetrosexuals. Im glad the legal age for homosexual sex has dropped down to the normal age (16). It was just wrong having it older than that ust becuase you are homosexual.

Gay's and Lesbian's are people too, and should not be discriminated against.

Just out of interest, are you a lesbian Emilee?

LMAO: No i just have quite a few Gay friends.

Emilee

31-01-2007, 07:30 PM

Oooh God that did sound a bit too much! lol, Like i was fighting for my own rights haha. And dropping the age limit down. haha. Woops, sorry if i mislead anyone. haha.:whistle:

Psylocke

31-01-2007, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Emilee
Oooh God that did sound a bit too much! lol, Like i was fighting for my own rights haha. And dropping the age limit down. haha. Woops, sorry if i mislead anyone. haha.:whistle:

lol,dont say sorry,nothing the matter with being a lesbian if you were :thumbs:

Lauren

31-01-2007, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by Emilee
Oooh God that did sound a bit too much! lol, Like i was fighting for my own rights haha. And dropping the age limit down. haha. Woops, sorry if i mislead anyone. haha.:whistle:

PMSLLL I know this is a serious debate but that made me laugh :laugh:

Emilee

31-01-2007, 08:18 PM

LOL Didnt mean to say it like that.. haha. Got a lil bit too into the topic. People think i am a lesbian at school for some reason, mainly probably because i havnt had a boyfriend in a while. If someone a girl asks me:
"Are you a lesbian?" i just say "Why do you fancy me?".
It really annoys me.

Bells

31-01-2007, 08:21 PM

LOL Emilee, don't worry - that sort of stuff is said a lot. Just because you don't have a boyfriend for a while, people may think you're a lesbian - it's slightly strange.
Teen years - what a weird age to be at times.

Anyway, in my personal view, I feel that gays and lesbians should certainly be given the same rights. We're all human beings at the end of the day! And that should be what counts. It's all down to personal choice and the way people choose to live their lives again; the same applies to religion etc., so if all these people can be treated equally then the same should apply to everyone else.

Princess

31-01-2007, 08:52 PM

They should have the same rights as everyone else! It isn't fair just because they are in the minority that if a gay couple are in a relationship for donkeys years and then one of them dies and the other gets nothing! Or has that changed now? But yeah they deserve the same rights. Gay marriage still isn't legal here which frustrates me! Actually marriage laws in general suck in Ireland!

ThaGazBoi

01-02-2007, 03:18 PM

Gay/Bi/Straight/Transexuals all deserve the same treatment as they are god's people.

Im a bisexual and I am proud. I agree that Gay Marriages have now been accepted and finally people are taking them seriously.

Emilee

01-02-2007, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by CrazyGazza
Gay/Bi/Straight/Transexuals all deserve the same treatment as they are god's people.

Im a bisexual and I am proud. I agree that Gay Marriages have now been accepted and finally people are taking them seriously.

Im glad your proud of your sexuallity and to come out with it, Homosexuality and bisexuality, - there is nothing wrong with it, and once people learn to accept it, they will see, they are just the same as everybody else.
Good for you :thumbs:

andybigbro

01-02-2007, 03:45 PM

Yeah i agree you shouldnt be ashamed of your sexial life becasue its your and no one elses and its up to you what you are into

Ruth

01-02-2007, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by easypeasy
i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?

But not all marriages are religious though. A man and woman can be legally married in a non-religious ceremony.

Two of my gay friends got 'married' last year...I couldn't be more happy for them. They have been together for about 7 years, both have excellent jobs, pay their taxes, contribute to society, and are law abiding citizens. What right does anyone have to say that they should not have the same rights as anybody else?

GlitterEyes

10-02-2007, 01:49 AM

I haven't read the whole of this convo but I would be against two people of the same sex adopting children. I think Marriage is their own buisness but adopting kids is another matter. I also think what people do behind closed doors is entirely their own buisness.

Whats everyones views on same sex couples adopting children/babies?

secrets

10-02-2007, 07:46 AM

i am in a long term relationship and we were the first couple to commit in the civil partnership in our area.
we consider ourselfs to be a normal couple living a normal life.

Emilee

10-02-2007, 03:53 PM

Oh WOW! Thats great. :cheer2:

zachary

10-02-2007, 04:59 PM

I think it's great that homosexuals can get married. It's an act of total commitment and love and I don't see why they shouldn't get married.

Ruth

10-02-2007, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I haven't read the whole of this convo but I would be against two people of the same sex adopting children. I think Marriage is their own buisness but adopting kids is another matter. I also think what people do behind closed doors is entirely their own buisness.

Whats everyones views on same sex couples adopting children/babies?

If a child is brought up by a person or people who loves and cares for that child, I don't really see that their sexuality is an issue.

zachary

10-02-2007, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I haven't read the whole of this convo but I would be against two people of the same sex adopting children. I think Marriage is their own buisness but adopting kids is another matter. I also think what people do behind closed doors is entirely their own buisness.

Whats everyones views on same sex couples adopting children/babies?

If a child is brought up by a person or people who loves and cares for that child, I don't really see that their sexuality is an issue.

But what about the child? I mean, having two mums or dads is gonna get them a lot of mean comments at school, kids can be horrible etc.

GlitterEyes

10-02-2007, 11:32 PM

Yeah I can imagine it being hard for the child and that child wouldn't have a normal life because he or she would clearly be "different". I think a child would get alot of stick at school and that is unfair to put a child in a situation where they would be an easy target.

Ruth

11-02-2007, 09:49 AM

There's no such thing as a 'normal' family these days though. There's 1000s of children in one-parent families, or with step-parents. It's a sign of the times. Amongst my friends when I was at school I was the only one whose parents were still together and who had a 'traditional' family. I'm not being detrimental - I'm just pointing it out. There's so much more to consider in whether parents are suitable to bring a child up than their sexuality. For instance - a woman I know was married (to a man) and they had a son. They then split up and she is now living with another woman. Should she not be allowed to keep her son? The father isn't able to look after him - so what's the solution then? Should the boy be taken away from his mother and her partner, who love him and take care of him?

Noopie

11-02-2007, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by zacharybinx
But what about the child? I mean, having two mums or dads is going to get them a lot of mean comments at school, kids can be horrible etc.

You're right but that's not anybody's fault except for the kids who'll judge. I don't believe same sex couples shouldn't adopt just because of other people's ignorance.

Siouxsie

11-02-2007, 10:15 AM

I got nothing against gay or whatever anyone is. Just hate to see gays and lesbians mucking around in public.Theres a time and a place for it.
But as Glittereyes mentioned I dont think they should be allowed to adopt children

Red Moon

11-02-2007, 10:50 AM

I think everyone deserves to be treated equally irrespective of age, sex, race, religion, or sexual preferences. Nobody should get special treatment or be discriminated against in our society and laws should be in place to protect the minorities. These laws should also protect people who have different sexual preferences from the majority of the population.

glib

12-01-2022, 09:20 PM

Fascinating to read back over this now 15 year old thread. 2007 feels like a lifetime away. I’m sure perspectives on this topic have changed, positively. LGBT have made so much progress since 2007!

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