Welsh fans are awesome, english fans lots of bigots?

[the truth]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-36510601

The welsh singing in yesterdays euro 2016 is the greatest Ive ever heard at any sporting match.....Tuneful soulful word perfect throughout the match and beyond, even the trumpeters were fantastic. it truly is the land of song. This is how supporters should behave, meanwhile those rioting England fans are you watching? Your pathetic riots and bigoted rants do not represent England or wales or the UK. They do not represent patriotism, they just represent ignorance as you embarrass your nation. But you've had enough cheap attention , back to the magnificent welsh fans. The French were so impressed they even lit up the eiffel tower for us....In France , Wales is known as pay de galles which means our gallic friends. Cymru am byth, vive le France.

Roll on thursday :wavey:

[MTVN]

Yes it must be nice to not have local hooligans, Russian gangs and heavy handed police all gunning for you

[Raph]

Cymru am byth!

[Livia]

Yes it must be nice to not have local hooligans, Russian gangs and heavy handed police all gunning for you

To be fair, the Russian hooligans probably don't even realise Wales have a national team.

[the truth]

ALways an excuse for these yobs...is this why they were rioting and chanting fck you europe, sit down if you hate the french and other such bigoted poison

[Denver]

Wasnt 1 england fan dead and 2 critical? And you have a ****ing nerve to call them thugs for your welsh pride how distasteful

[MTVN]

ALways an excuse for these yobs...is this why they were rioting and chanting fck you europe, sit down if you hate the french and other such bigoted poison

Just a bit of banter, I'm sure the Welsh will be giving plenty on Thursday

[billy123]

The Truth talking about what makes a bigot.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/oXM6Rksxe3zby/200_s.gif

[Cherie]

Wasnt 1 england fan dead and 2 critical? And you have a ****ing nerve to call them thugs for your welsh pride how distasteful

no one died as far as I know Adam

[Denver]

no one died as far as I know Adam

You sure? It was in the group b thread about a fan dying

[Drew.]

Anyone blaming the violence on England fans either haven't seen the footage of what went on or is letting their dislike for English fans overshadow the truth (which is ironic)

French youths got together in their hundreds in planned attacks and chased English fans all around the streets of Marseille last night putting about 20 fans in hospital. Then theres the Russian ultras that traveled over armed with knifes & without tickets just to fight. Ofc there are a handful of English fans that got involved but nearly all of them were ambushed/didn't start any of it

[Livia]

Why is a thread like this allowed in Serious Debates? All Welsh fans are wonderful and all English fans are bigots? Ridiculous.

[billy123]

Why is a thread like this allowed in Serious Debates? All Welsh fans are wonderful and all English fans are bigots? Ridiculous.I am just waiting for him to claim that English females are the true spawn of the devil and the real root of the problem in the world.
His threads get worse.

[T*]

Why is a thread like this allowed in Serious Debates? All Welsh fans are wonderful and all English fans are bigots? Ridiculous.

because 'the truth'

[T*]

I am just waiting for him to claim that English females are the true spawn of the devil and the real root of the problem in the world.
His threads get worse.

and don't forget the gays!

[the truth]

Wasnt 1 england fan dead and 2 critical? And you have a ****ing nerve to call them thugs for your welsh pride how distasteful

my respect and heart goes out to that mans family and the culprits must be caught

the point im making is the england fans have amongst them a large group of violent hateful bigoted morons and they must be rooted out , locked away and banned for life. I stand by the comparison with the welsh fans who have been magnificent and lauded by everyone. they go to sing to sing and enjoy and make new friends. those english thugs could learn a great deal from these welsh fans

[the truth]

Why is a thread like this allowed in Serious Debates? All Welsh fans are wonderful and all English fans are bigots? Ridiculous.

not ridiculous at all. the fact is there is no trouble with welsh or scottish , irish fans too rarely get into trouble....there is however still a massive problem of hooliganism in the english fan base

[T*]

Yes it must be nice to not have local hooligans, Russian gangs and heavy handed police all gunning for you

.

[the truth]

You sure? It was in the group b thread about a fan dying

thankfully hes still alive at the moment

[Livia]

not ridiculous at all. the fact is there is no trouble with welsh or scottish , irish fans too rarely get into trouble....there is however still a massive problem of hooliganism in the english fan base

Football in Wales is such a "thing" that your top clubs play in English leagues. Scotland never qualify for anything so they don't count. England have a small percentage of thugs and consequently are targeted by the press, but Russia, by Turkey and lately... by you.

[the truth]

Football in Wales is such a "thing" that your top clubs play in English leagues. Scotland never qualify for anything so they don't count. England have a small percentage of thugs and consequently are targeted by the press, but Russia, by Turkey and lately... by you.

poor them , those sweet innocent little angels
these holligans are evil thugs and theyve poisoned the reputation of english fans for decades

[T*]

The fact that accusations are being made against english fans for something we don't even know the full picture of yet- and especially after the news that has come out is showing the english fans as victims makes this thread make me feel very uncomfortable.
We should of learnt by now not to put people under the same umbrella ffs

[the truth]

The fact that accusations are being made against english fans for something we don't even know the full picture of yet- and especially after the news that has come out is showing the english fans as victims makes this thread make me feel very uncomfortable.
We should of learnt by now not to put people under the same umbrella ffs

apologist nonsense... There are 100s of violent idiotic football hooligans amongst the english fans and have been for decades. Yes they are a small minority relative to the thousands of good english fans, but they are still there and still causing massive damage and dragging englands name through the mud. their bigoted rants their aggression and hatemongering has destroyed many football occasions. Its high time they are weeded out and banned for life. no liberal apologists should ever allow this truth to be ignored

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Russians attacking scarfers and claiming they took the England fans

amateurs

also carrying weapons?

:facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

And The Truth - Cardiff have always had a top mob and been involved in fighting in just about every away game they play so to claim Wales are free from hooligans is crazy


Thankfully Scottish fans have always shown the way Internationally

:angel:

[T*]

apologist nonsense... There are 100s of violent idiotic football hooligans amongst the english fans and have been for decades. Yes they are a small minority relative to the thousands of good english fans, but they are still there and still causing massive damage and dragging englands name through the mud. their bigoted rants their aggression and hatemongering has destroyed many football occasions. Its high time they are weeded out and banned for life. no liberal apologists should ever allow this truth to be ignored

you and me show different opinions on who should be banned for life...

[the truth]

you and me show different opinions on who should be banned for life...

eh?

[T*]

Work it out :)

[billy123]

and don't forget the gays!Im sure he wont. Its nothing but low class baiting. Better to take the piss out of or ignore.

[the truth]

Im sure he wont. Its nothing but low class baiting. Better to take the piss out of or ignore.

duly reported

[erinp5]

I preferred the Slovakian anthem

[the truth]

I preferred the Slovakian anthem

me too

[Cherie]

And The Truth - Cardiff have always had a top mob and been involved in fighting in just about every away game they play so to claim Wales are free from hooligans is crazy


Thankfully Scottish fans have always shown the way Internationally

:angel:

No the Republic do that

[Crimson Dynamo]

No the Republic do that

:nono:

drunken yobs singing suspect republican songs
:suspect:

give me NI any day

[billy123]

duly reportedClassy.
You must have me mistaken for someone who gives a ****. :joker:

[the truth]

holligan apologists simply enable the hooligan to carry on as normal

[the truth]

Classy.

very:hee:

[AnnieK]

The problem is the hooligans are not English fans....they are thugs who get a kick out of fighting. They won't give a **** if we get disqualified they aren't there for the football. I can't possibly see a way to police it to be honest. The majority of fans who got hurt were true fans who got caught up in organised violence by the Russian hooligans

[the truth]

The problem is the hooligans are not English fans....they are thugs who get a kick out of fighting. They won't give a **** if we get disqualified they aren't there for the football. I can't possibly see a way to police it to be honest. The majority of fans who got hurt were true fans who got caught up in organised violence by the Russian hooligans

they must be banned for life asap

[Brother Leon]

The Welsh are too irrelevant for Russians or French to even instigate anything with in the first place.

[the truth]

The Welsh are too irrelevant for Russians or French to even instigate anything with in the first place.
lol

the english hooligans never instigate anything

[Niamh.]

:hee:
'Ireland fans are making our work very, very easy' - Top policeman praises fans in France

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/euro-2016/ireland-fans-are-making-our-work-very-very-easy-top-policeman-praises-fans-in-france-34792590.html

[the truth]

It's a uniquely English problem and it seems deep rooted

[Niamh.]

:nono:

drunken yobs singing suspect republican songs
:suspect:

give me NI any day

Our fans are praised around the world :hee:

[user104658]

It's a uniquely English problem and it seems deep rooted

It's not uniquely English, but it's certainly not true that it plagues "every team's support" to the same extent. England has a significant problem with both football hooliganism AND many "normal" non-violent fans nonetheless being disrespectful of host countries / cities, and anyhone who denies that is firmly burying their head in the sand :shrug:.

What is true, though, and very sad, is that there do seem to be a lot of people who have done nothing wrong at all caught in the crossfire of these violent alteractions - and those people are the most likely to end up getting hurt.

[billy123]

:hee:
'Ireland fans are making our work very, very easy' - Top policeman praises fans in France

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/euro-2016/ireland-fans-are-making-our-work-very-very-easy-top-policeman-praises-fans-in-france-34792590.htmlIrish fans last night.

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Just saying.

[billy123]

Ukraine v Germans today

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[LaLaLand]

Got to take my hats off to our fans, they're doing us proud here in Wales. England's fans are a disgrace.

[Shaun]

think Niamh meant R.O.Irish tbf bob :laugh: though give it time and an inevitable Swedish defeat...


But yes this thread is ridiculous since you have to go back to 1998 to find a team other than England qualifying for anything.

[billy123]

think Niamh meant R.O.Irish tbf bob :laugh: though give it time and an inevitable Swedish defeat...


But yes this thread is ridiculous since you have to go back to 1998 to find a team other than England qualifying for anything.Ahh i see my mistake.

[Niamh.]

Ahh i see my mistake.



Obviously I meant ROI fans :fist:


And Shaun, dw we're well used to losing, that's probably why we're so laid back :laugh:


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[the truth]

It's not uniquely English, but it's certainly not true that it plagues "every team's support" to the same extent. England has a significant problem with both football hooliganism AND many "normal" non-violent fans nonetheless being disrespectful of host countries / cities, and anyhone who denies that is firmly burying their head in the sand :shrug:.

What is true, though, and very sad, is that there do seem to be a lot of people who have done nothing wrong at all caught in the crossfire of these violent alteractions - and those people are the most likely to end up getting hurt.

Its a deep rooted problem unique to english culture. anyone who has ever been to the med or around europe on holiday will testify to the appalling behaviour of gangs of englishmen....it simply doesnt happen with our nationalities, the scots welsh and irish simply sing together, the rest keep themselves to themselves. its bizarre , is it something to do with the fall of empire or what?

[MTVN]

Please. Because those Old Firm games are so peaceful and friendly. And the likes of Cardiff and Wrexham don't have any violence amongst their fans at all.

I remember in the 2012 Euros seeing England and Sweden fans singing Wonderwall together a few hours before we played them. Yes there's been big problems with hooliganism in English football in the last thirty years but its nowhere near as bad now as it used to be. These days you will get much worse violence in Eastern Europe and even in places like Italy I would say its worse. And to argue that its a much worse problem in England than the other home nations is bollocks. Its just because we are a bigger nation with a more successful domestic league and a more successful national team that it has always been a bigger issue.

[user104658]

Please. Because those Old Firm games are so peaceful and friendly. And the likes of Cardiff and Wrexham don't have any violence amongst their fans at all.

I remember in the 2012 Euros seeing England and Sweden fans singing Wonderwall together a few hours before we played them. Yes there's been big problems with hooliganism in English football in the last thirty years but its nowhere near as bad now as it used to be. These days you will get much worse violence in Eastern Europe and even in places like Italy I would say its worse. And to argue that its a much worse problem in England than the other home nations is bollocks. Its just because we are a bigger nation with a more successful domestic league and a more successful national team that it has always been a bigger issue.

That's just yet more evidence of their crimes: Everyone knows that Oasis wrote the soundtrack to English hooliganism. They go together like rama-lamma-lamma-ka-dinga-da-dinga-dong.

In all seriousness MTVN: The English have a bad reputation abroad completely outwith football... are we really rewriting all of this because of a bit of butthurt? :joker:

[the truth]

Please. Because those Old Firm games are so peaceful and friendly. And the likes of Cardiff and Wrexham don't have any violence amongst their fans at all.

I remember in the 2012 Euros seeing England and Sweden fans singing Wonderwall together a few hours before we played them. Yes there's been big problems with hooliganism in English football in the last thirty years but its nowhere near as bad now as it used to be. These days you will get much worse violence in Eastern Europe and even in places like Italy I would say its worse. And to argue that its a much worse problem in England than the other home nations is bollocks. Its just because we are a bigger nation with a more successful domestic league and a more successful national team that it has always been a bigger issue.
its the truth but you cant handle the truth you are an apologist of english football hooligans. england should be kicked out with russia , theyve both had a final warning from eufa

[MTVN]

That's just yet more evidence of their crimes: Everyone knows that Oasis wrote the soundtrack to English hooliganism. They go together like rama-lamma-lamma-ka-dinga-da-dinga-dong.

In all seriousness MTVN: The English have a bad reputation abroad completely outwith football... are we really rewriting all of this because of a bit of butthurt? :joker:

Brits have a bad reputation. Its always convenient for the plucky Scots and Welsh to make out that they're distinct from the drunken English idiots and not associated with it but its rubbish really. I'm afraid you as Scotsman are just as implicated as I am. If people think its more of an English problem again I would say thats because of England being a bigger nation and because of how a lot of people wrongly conflate the UK with England.

[MTVN]

its the truth but you cant handle the truth you are an apologist of english football hooligans. england should be kicked out with russia , theyve both had a final warning from eufa

Nonsense, I would say this more applies to you

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/attachments/ss-helmet-forum/628800d1389674247-ss-helmet-isnt-thank-you-handlethetruth.jpg

[user104658]

Brits have a bad reputation. Its always convenient for the plucky Scots and Welsh to make out that they're distinct from the drunken English idiots and not associated with it but its rubbish really. I'm afraid you as Scotsman are just as implicated as I am. If people think its more of an English problem again I would say thats because of England being a bigger nation and because of how a lot of people wrongly conflate the UK with England.

Globally maybe, within Europe (and actually France, especially) there is a definite distinction, to the extent that French people will express feeling sorry for the Scots, being "stuck with the English". I'm genuinely not saying it to be offensive... my wife is English :shrug:... I just prefer accuracy and am not inclined to shy away from it for fear of hurting feelybobbers.

[Kizzy]

It's a sad state of affairs I was hoping that foozebal would help heal the cracks in the EU and the wider world, it's not going to happen is it? :(

[AnnieK]

I saw what Rangers fans did to Manchester in 2008 ..... There are hooligans from all nations

[the truth]

Brits have a bad reputation. Its always convenient for the plucky Scots and Welsh to make out that they're distinct from the drunken English idiots and not associated with it but its rubbish really. I'm afraid you as Scotsman are just as implicated as I am. If people think its more of an English problem again I would say thats because of England being a bigger nation and because of how a lot of people wrongly conflate the UK with England.

they are seperate thank goodness. in europe you have to have a scottish or welsh flag to get treated with respect, theres infinitely more hate for the english because of how so many idiotic english men behave

[the truth]

I saw what Rangers fans did to Manchester in 2008 ..... There are hooligans from all nations way more from england

[Alf]

Just jealous because England have the best football hooligans in the World, always have had.

We know how to muck in when it comes to a scrap.

[MTVN]

Globally maybe, within Europe (and actually France, especially) there is a definite distinction, to the extent that French people will express feeling sorry for the Scots, being "stuck with the English". I'm genuinely not saying it to be offensive... my wife is English :shrug:... I just prefer accuracy and am not inclined to shy away from it for fear of hurting feelybobbers.

Well this stuff is always anecdotal so I'm not sure how accurate it is really. I've never felt prejudiced against around Europe for being English or that I'm missing out on a lot of pally moments with the French. Might sound butthurt but it does often feel like the other home nations see themselves as a more enlightened breed and take solace in being distanced from the knuckle-dragging English when really we're not that different at all. Its not like Scotland and Wales are immune from the things that have caused our bad reputation abroad. Scotland in particular has plenty of its own problems with alcohol, football hooliganism and sectarianism.

[MTVN]

they are seperate thank goodness. in europe you have to have a scottish or welsh flag to get treated with respect, theres infinitely more hate for the english because of how so many idiotic english men behave

They get a pat on the head because a Welsh or Scottish flag is only seen at the Euros about once every twenty years

[bots]

They get a pat on the head because a Welsh or Scottish flag is only seen at the Euros about once every twenty years

Even at the time when hooligans were the norm in football, there was never any problems between Scottish fans and the country they were playing against. It has nothing to do with how often they attend, its a simple fact that people don't see Scottish people as a violent threat, they do see English fans as a threat, and not without reason either.

[Niamh.]

But Ireland still have the best fans in the world:hee:


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[MTVN]

Even at the time when hooligans were the norm in football, there was never any problems between Scottish fans and the country they were playing against. It has nothing to do with how often they attend, its a simple fact that people don't see Scottish people as a violent threat, they do see English fans as a threat, and not without reason either.

There's always been problems with violence in Scottish domestic football though. I'm not arguing that English football has never had a big problem with hooliganism - that would obviously be stupid. The problems with English football violence are very well known and documented. But its not like 'Welsh fans are awesome, English fans lots of bigots' is a resonable point from which to start this discussion.

[Kizzy]

I don't profess to know a lot about football but coming from Leeds our fans don't have the best rep as far as I know and the Leeds model of fan is replicated across England, can the same be said of Welsh cities?

[Alf]

But Ireland still have the best fans in the world:hee:


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDon't talk rhubarb.:tongue:

[the truth]

There's always been problems with violence in Scottish domestic football though. I'm not arguing that English football has never had a big problem with hooliganism - that would obviously be stupid. The problems with English football violence are very well known and documented. But its not like 'Welsh fans are awesome, English fans lots of bigots' is a resonable point from which to start this discussion.

I didnt say that so youre misreprenting my words in a rather dishonest way, pretty much the straw mans argument....the majority of wesh national football fans are great and you rarely if ever get problems, the problems of viokence and hooliganism is massively worse within english supporters. the welsh had 24000 and as usual no problems at all. overaall and in general they are better behaved fans less prone to hooliganism. the english and russians should be kicked out

[MTVN]

I didnt say that so youre misreprenting my words in a rather dishonest way, pretty much the straw mans argument....the majority of wesh national football fans are great and you rarely if ever get problems, the problems of viokence and hooliganism is massively worse within english supporters. the welsh had 24000 and as usual no problems at all. overaall and in general they are better behaved fans less prone to hooliganism. the english and russians should be kicked out

That's literally the title of your thread (albeit without the question mark)

[Crimson Dynamo]

96% of known and convicted english hooligans who were asked to hand in passports prior to the tournament did


0% of Russians did


I doubt any English firms are actually there, iv seen none. Just pissed up lads throwing the odd chair in retaliation

[billy123]

http://worldsoccertalk.com/2016/06/13/russian-football-union-official-tells-violent-fans-keep-it-up/

HomeEuro 2016Russian Football Union official tells violent fans: keep it up!
Russian Football Union official tells violent fans: keep it up! AFP June 13, 2016 Euro 2016, Russia No Comments

Moscow (AFP) – A senior Russian Football Union official and ultra-nationalist politician said Monday that the country’s fans were right to fight England supporters at Euro 2016.

Igor Lebedev, who sits on the RFU executive committee and is also a deputy speaker in parliament, said on Twitter: “I don’t see anything wrong with fans fighting.”

“Quite the opposite, the guys did well. Keep it up!” said Lebedev, a member of the ultra-nationalist Liberal Democratic Party of Russia headed by his father Vladimir Zhirinovsky.

He said the violence was “not the fans’ fault”. Lebedev blamed French police’s “inability to organise such events.”

Lebedev also claimed in a separate interview with Life.ru tabloid website that Russians were provoked by England supporters and suggested Sports Minister Vitaly Mutko would have enjoyed joining in the clashes.

“I personally think that if Mutko was with the fans on the stands and not an official, he would also go and fight the English fans since they were the ones who started it,” Lebedev said.

Mutko has said Russian hooligans are “disgracing the country” ahead of its 2018 hosting of the World Cup.

Lebedev’s comments came as Russia faces the threat of disqualification from Euro 2016 and a British fan remained in a critical condition after fights in Marseille during and after the England-Russia match on Saturday.

The RFU on Sunday urged fans to behave properly to avoid UEFA sanctions against the national side. UEFA has said Russia and England could face disqualification if there is further fan violence.

Lebedev criticised officials and politicians for “branding our fans,” however. “We need to defend them: they’ll come home and then we’ll work out what happened.”

A Moscow city lawmaker, Maxim Motin, told Dozhd television on Sunday that he witnessed the stadium violence in Marseille and “Russian fans did not do anything criminal or outside the limits.”

[the truth]

That's literally the title of your thread (albeit without the question mark)

no its not. english fans have lots of yobs. just a fact.

[Cherie]

Who will want to go to the World Cup in Russia?

[Niamh.]

Who will want to go to the World Cup in Russia?

:worry:

[Livia]

Am I the only one who's exhausted by the anti-English sentiment of this thread? Nothing's ever black and white and this subject has become plain old baiting.

[Denver]

Who will want to go to the World Cup in Russia?

If Russian fans carry on they will be disqualified and possibly vanned so we could get new hosts

[Cherie]

Am I the only one who's exhausted by the anti-English sentiment of this thread? Nothing's ever black and white and this subject has become plain old baiting.

Not me just enjoying the fans who come to party :smug:

[billy123]

England Fans exonerated by UEFA and Russia handed a fine and suspended disqualification from the tournament as expected showing this thread as the chode that it is.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/uefa-euro-2016/russia-handed-suspended-disqualification-from-euro-2016/ar-AAh1LUu?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=iehp

Well done the not truth :joker:

The statement read: "The independent UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body (CEDB) met today in Paris to deal with the disciplinary proceedings opened against the Russian Football Union (RFU) following the incidents which occurred inside the Stade Velodrome in Marseille, at the UEFA EURO 2016 match against England on 11 June (1-1).

"Charges relating to crowd disturbances, use of fireworks and racist behaviour had been brought against the RFU, and the CEDB decided to impose the following sanctions:

• A fine of €150,000.

• A suspended disqualification of the Russian national team from UEFA EURO 2016 for the crowd disturbances. In accordance with Article 20 of the UEFA Disciplinary Regulations, this disqualification is suspended until the end of the tournament. Such suspension will be lifted if incidents of a similar nature [crowd disturbances] happen inside the stadium at any of the remaining matches of the Russian team during the tournament.

[Niamh.]

Seriously though are people actually going to travel to Russia for the World Cup? :worry:

[billy123]

Seriously though are people actually going to travel to Russia for the World Cup? :worry:I hope not. This type of behavior is standard for Russian fans it happens week in week out there.

[Niamh.]

I hope not. This type of behavior is standard for Russian fans it happens week in week out there.

They really are taking a risk by hosting it there when soccer seems to cause so much problems for them

[billy123]

They really are taking a risk by hosting it there when soccer seems to cause so much problems for them Another backhanded cash in hand deal by the morons that run the game.
I have a tweet somewhere of the Russian Chief of police saying "there is no trouble just passionate fans defending their country keep it up boys" :joker:

They really are backwards as are those that jump on the England hate bandwagon and just end up looking silly :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I watch a lot of vids of russian hooligans fighting and these chaps are ex military or serving police. They dont drink, they train for combat and they fight in woods each week. They are fit and trained for violence. They dont mind hitting scarfers neither and in general the Russian media and politicians like them.

wait to see what happens if russia get poland

(if that can happen in the draw?)

[Crimson Dynamo]

this is how they start off prior to the big Ultra stuff

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this is typical

[Niamh.]

I watch a lot of vids of russian hooligans fighting and these chaps are ex military or serving police. They dont drink, they train for combat and they fight in woods each week. They are fit and trained for violence. They dont mind hitting scarfers neither and in general the Russian media and politicians like them.

wait to see what happens if russia get poland

(if that can happen in the draw?)

wow that's crazy

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.facebook.com/Fighting.Hooligans/


https://www.facebook.com/russianultrascom/


Notice captured flags displayed upside down

the ultimate diss


https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13428569_1029310640492434_5601955585509796157_n.jp g?oh=a27683b1769b13fc1c19e9a28ac19357&oe=57C2D4F0

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13315693_1028417810581717_6370859304748463297_n.jp g?oh=17602a3b01dc1861b530b49025ae918b&oe=5803351C

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dont be suprised by the bigotry just look at who started the thread :joker:
Why it isnt deleted yet i dont know.

harsh as he has had to take a small holiday

:hehe:

[Cherie]

Dont be suprised by the bigotry just look at who started the thread :joker:
Why it isnt deleted yet i dont know.

When did football fans become such sensitive flowers :worry:


My favourite tweet during all this was John from Brighton didn't take a chair to the head for Vardy not to start :joker:

[bots]

If Russian fans carry on they will be disqualified and possibly vanned so we could get new hosts

that sounds a bit extreme :shocked:

They do have a hooligan problem, and banning them or disqualifying is the correct response given we want a safe environment for the world cup in a couple of years

[MTVN]

DM reporting that Russians have been attacking English and Welsh fans today in Lille

[Shaun]

Pathetic inbreds from a pathetic country.

[Crimson Dynamo]

yep the ultras have been attacking scarfers again in pubs

disgraceful

they dont even get the rules

[billy123]

Pathetic inbreds from a pathetic country.Thats a bit harsh i dont mind the Welsh. They are a bit daft but most of them are OK.

[billy123]

Theres a video from today of Russian Ultras trying to Attack the Welsh and English fans only to find them sticking together and chanting "We're England and Wales, we're England and Wales... ***** off Russia, we're England and Wales."

https://www.facebook.com/awaydayfootball/videos/1112701352109363/

Thats the right way to do it instead of some nasty bitter person stupidly trying to claim one UK nation is better than any other.

[Livia]

Good to see the English and Welsh fans sticking together against the Russian thugs.

[the truth]

Theres a video from today of Russian Ultras trying to Attack the Welsh and English fans only to find them sticking together and chanting "We're England and Wales, we're England and Wales... ***** off Russia, we're England and Wales."

https://www.facebook.com/awaydayfootball/videos/1112701352109363/

Thats the right way to do it instead of some nasty bitter person stupidly trying to claim one UK nation is better than any other.

im glad theyre showing solidarity but theyre all still better off trying to walk away from it if thats at all possible

[Crimson Dynamo]

Of course we wont see them in the World Cup as the Russian security services will not allow it. The ultras will be visited by security personally at home and told that if they do anything then welcome to 15 summers in Siberia

There will be no problems in Russia

[the truth]

it underlines too why people should be alloed to wear headgear in public places that hides their identity

[Beso]

Load of pussies.

[Beso]

English fans.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ5EvNBuSa0

[the truth]

singing is just phenomenal at wales v russia

[MTVN]

Expect that most Welsh people don't even know that Wales are playing tonight

[the truth]

Every welsh man and woman alive knows, 3 nil to wales ...im in tears here butty ..........I love my country more than words can ever express, the land of poets , actors , choirs and bards the land of valleys and mountains, the land of song and now the land of a world class football team too

[Raph]

Wales :love:

[the truth]

grown men crying all around me here

[joeysteele]

Well done to Wales and top of their group too.

[AnnieK]

Congrats to Wales and Englandfor going through....home nations done us proud tonight

[LaLaLand]

Brilliant performance by Wales, I'm very proud right now... Cymru am byth!

[Beso]

Every welsh man and woman alive knows, 3 nil to wales ...im in tears here butty ..........I love my country more than words can ever express, the land of poets , actors , choirs and bards the land of valleys and mountains, the land of song and now the land of a world class football team too

congratulations, amazing fans.

[Crimson Dynamo]

whoever did research on Russia for England needs sacked

[billy123]

Well done to Wales on getting through and Well done to England on getting through still undefeated.

[the truth]

Well done to Bales on getting through and Well done to England on getting through still undefeated.

Indeed, great times for british football, lets hope the northern irish make it 3 teams through

[the truth]

Here's exactly what french football paper L'Equipe said after just the first match...
"A hymn to give you goosebumps, never-ending singing and the impression all you can see is red: the show was also in the stands, yesterday at Bordeaux, where Wales beat Slovakia (2-1) in its first major tournament for 58 years.

"After such a long wait, the fans were thirsty for victory but not only that. The Welsh are many, noisy, sometimes a little rowdy but mostly peaceful. They must tolerate drink better than others. The coach Chris Coleman and the players have all paid tribute to this extraordinary popular support, of the kind that gives you strength and an indestructible confidence.

[Livia]

Every welsh man and woman alive knows, 3 nil to wales ...im in tears here butty ..........I love my country more than words can ever express, the land of poets , actors , choirs and bards the land of valleys and mountains, the land of song and now the land of a world class football team too

Awww that's lovely. Tell me, when did you cry harder? When Wales beat Russia or when England beat Wales?

Probably best if Wales go out in the next round or you're going to need CPR :-)

[billy123]

Still an idiotic thread title though i see.

[Livia]

Still an idiotic thread title though i see.

It is, Bob.

[the truth]

Still an idiotic thread title though i see.

nah its just missing a comma

[the truth]

Awww that's lovely. Tell me, when did you cry harder? When Wales beat Russia or when England beat Wales?

Probably best if Wales go out in the next round or you're going to need CPR :-)

tears of pride every time wales play livia , win lose or draw

[Kizzy]

nah its just missing a comma

Just lose the word 'fans' after English :fan:

'The most perfect thing I have ever seen just happened on the replacement train bus service between Newport and Cwmbran:
White man sat in front of a mother and her son. Mother was wearing a niqab. After about 5 minutes of the mother talking to her son in another language the man, for whatever reason, feels the need to tell the woman "When you're in the UK you should really be speaking English."
At which point, an old woman in front of him turns around and says, "She's in Wales. And she's speaking Welsh."

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/thousands-of-people-shared-this-quite-extraordinary-story-about-a-confused-racist-on-a-welsh-train--WySzdFRFNZ

[Livia]

tears of pride every time wales play livia , win lose or draw

You know, when I was a child, my brother and I always supported all the home teams. Sadly when we grew up and realised it wasn't reciprocated, in fact they all hated us, it killed it a bit. Shame...

[the truth]

You know, when I was a child, my brother and I always supported all the home teams. Sadly when we grew up and realised it wasn't reciprocated, in fact they all hated us, it killed it a bit. Shame...
lol sadly you misunderstood livia. The english as the vastly more welthy powerful nation would naturally always get more detractors as those in power always do, as we see with the endless attacks on rich white men, theyre seen as the power base and they get more stick to try and redress the balance. in reality though some english fans have a long history of violence ,maybe they have achip on their shoulder from the fallen empire youll have to tell me why I dont understand it, we see far far less of that from the other home unions. im surprised how sensitive some england fans are to criticism but maybe its a reaction to the overpopulation of england and the loss of sovereignty and the frustration over being disallowed from expressing their patriotism. in that regard they do have my sympathy and to a degree I understand their frustration, england have taken some cheap shots as have all those people in power. if its any consolation when the **** really hist the fan, whether its on the terraces or on the strreets or the battlefield, the welsh ALWAYS been their best most loyal friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivz3sieYRrE

[Crimson Dynamo]

The arrogance of Woy last night making all the changes instead of sticking with a winning team

so far England have been a shambles and i wont be surprised if they get knocked out in the next match

[the truth]

The arrogance of Woy last night making all the changes instead of sticking with a winning team

so far England have been a shambles and i wont be surprised if they get knocked out in the next match
it was very odd but I wouldnt write england off just yet, no world class players but a load fo very good ones

[billy123]

The arrogance of Woy last night making all the changes instead of sticking with a winning team

so far England have been a shambles and i wont be surprised if they get knocked out in the next matchAnd they are undefeated,In the next round,rested players and avoided any 1 game suspensions ;)
How did Scotland get on? :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

And they are undefeated,In the next round,rested players and avoided any 1 game suspensions ;)
How did Scotland get on? :joker:

so far you beat wales



The french press said England were wandering about in the dark :joker:



No country fears getting Woys calamity 11 next

[MTVN]

so far you beat wales



The french press said England were wandering about in the dark :joker:



No country fears getting Woys calamity 11 next

And Portgual couldn't beat Iceland, Spain scraped past the Czechs, France barely beat Albania and couldn't beat Switzerland, Germany could only get the one against Northern Ireland etc. etc.

No team has looked like hugely worrying

[MTVN]

^ To add to that Spain are just about to lose to Croatia :hee: