BB18 USA Rankings Thread

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think Braden explains his views very well :shrug:

[LukeB]

Lol, okay. I just think if that's how you genuinely felt you wouldn't be bothered by what i have to say...I didn't mean to touch a nerve though. As much you can say what you like, and like who you like, I'm allowed to have my opinion as a result of that. I'm not going to silence myself.



Calling me unfriendly and rude is a bit touchy. I'm allowed to judge someone based on their thoughts and feelings.

It's not even negative though. If anything I was giving Raph a compliment because I don't find him to be anywhere near as a bad of a person as Paulie.

You're insulting though which is rude and unfriendly

[Braden]

Okay, is the shallow comment what is deemed to be insulting/unfriendly/rude?

[LukeB]

Okay, is the shallow comment what is deemed to be insulting/unfriendly/rude?

Well you called someone shallow over and over and they feel insulted so yes.

[Raph]

Yeah braden

[Braden]

Well I apologise for the use of that word.

I only meant in the context of what I was talking about, which is still my observation. However, I should have phrased differently so I wouldn't cause offence.

[Raph]

Thanks Braden! Like I said I'm super happy to discuss my views and have always enjoyed discussing things in the past with you. I get it though, it's super frustrating when you despise someone and they're rooted for on this forum in a very positive manner. That happened with Ashleigh BB15 for me, and it's hard not to insult people personally when their views extreme quite far from yours. But yeah here to positive discourse about what I think is the best season of BBUSA since Dan's one in 2008!

[Liam-]

I can remember at the start of the season that not many people really took notice of Natalie, how has she changed so many people's opinions?

[Raph]

I can remember at the start of the season that not many people really took notice of Natalie, how has she changed so many people's opinions?

In not quite sure tbh. Personally she adds very little intellectual value to the game but I think people like her because she comes across as a sweet person.

[Macie Lightfoot]

by being as sweet as could be, and as of recently for the amazing poetic justice that it is in her helping knock down Paulie a few notches

[LukeB]

1.Victor
2.Paulie
3.Michelle - superfan queen
4.James
5.Natalie
6.Paul
7.Nicole
8.Corey

[Braden]

Thanks Braden! Like I said I'm super happy to discuss my views and have always enjoyed discussing things in the past with you. I get it though, it's super frustrating when you despise someone and they're rooted for on this forum in a very positive manner. That happened with Ashleigh BB15 for me, and it's hard not to insult people personally when their views extreme quite far from yours. But yeah here to positive discourse about what I think is the best season of BBUSA since Dan's one in 2008!

No problem. I actually enjoy it more when people are passionate when they discuss who they like/dislike because the argument itself is more accurate and 'to the point' if you will. And it's funny because I'm not the sort of person who would like to leave a discussion with a sort of 'agree to disagree' climax, but 80/90% of the time it always goes that way on the forum for the sake of morale :p

[Macie Lightfoot]

for someone who doesn't provide much intellectual value, Natalie sure spearheaded the biggest move of the season in the Zakiyah eviction. Not to mention the whole "it's my body and I don't need to disclose **** to you about whether my breasts are real or fake" social issue thing.

[JerseyWins]

God forbid people debate the TV show they're watching.

People don't like it when their opinions are questioned....Please grow up.
Jesus Christ. It's not that you are questioning an opinion but you have literally been saying how basically the people who like Paulie must have character flaws or you are surprised that "someone like Raph" would like "someone like Paulie." so it's a compliment??? That's like a back-handed shot of making him feel bad just for liking someone on a TV show. Paulie is not a one-dimensional character either so this should not shock you just because Paulie has some character flaws. Like I said, you HONESTLY don't like any characters that have character flaws? Yeah right, Braden.

And what Raph is saying is accurate IMO as I completely agree that it's part of what I've liked about Paulie & his game, mainly earlier on.

It's the remarks that kinda irk me. Those remarks continued when you called Raph shallow for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with this. And I know you've taken it back so fair enough..

But like why does Raph get called shallow for "liking someone for their brother" which is a stretch accusation/assumption and "liking all Middle East / asian girls" (I'm not saying just now either, they get these comments made to them at random in other situations :joker:) when soooo many people on here clearly have their preferences anyway lol.

It seems like people always get on Raph and Luke for every little thing but whatever, I get it's just a forum to discuss things. I see it's been kinda settled and discussed and therefore I'm fine with it as well I just wanted to add this in after reading it all.

[Braden]

Oh dear.

I'm not prolonging this argument anymore because I don't want to risk being rude or unfriendly. You can put me on ignore if you like :)

[JerseyWins]

Lol it's fine. This was over anyway I just came in late. I wouldn't put someone on ignore just for this... :joker: It's really not THAT big of a deal I just want to understand the reasoning.

Like honestly, I just think you're being irrationally judgmental towards others as a result of your hate for Paulie but it is what it is. :shrug:

[Braden]

Hmm, maybe so. I can get irate when I'm confused about certain things, but it doesn't seem like this argument is ever going to be clarified happily on either end.

[Anaesthesia]

I like Paulie and I don't think I'm morally degenerate :P

Right now, I think the best game is being played by Paulie, Paul, and James. Sweety Nat as a coaster thats quirky enough to make it to F3.

Honestly, the rest can go ****** themselves, these are the guys that are playing.

[JerseyWins]

Fair enough Braden I understand :clap1:

I'd love to see Paul win this season but he MIGHT get himself in trouble later on. I'm kinda back to feeling like a girl will win this season, especially if there's a girl return from jury, as I think the guys are all very much against each other now. But which girl to win? :think: It would be crazy/hilarious/great if Natalie won the season. :joker:

[Braden]

I think Natalie has a good chance. I can really vision her winning :p I think she has her head screwed on game-wise, and she's likable enough for the jury to want to vote for her. It just depends if people see her as a threat nearer to the end.

I wouldn't mind Paul winning either at this moment in time.

[LukeB]

Fair enough Braden I understand :clap1:

I'd love to see Paul win this season but he MIGHT get himself in trouble later on. I'm kinda back to feeling like a girl will win this season, especially if there's a girl return from jury, as I think the guys are all very much against each other now. But which girl to win? :think: It would be crazy/hilarious/great if Natalie won the season. :joker:

I think Paul will win tbh (if I was doing odds I would put Paul as favourite)

[JerseyWins]

Yeah I think Paul definitely has a good chance that's for sure. The other guy I'd say has a decent shot at it is James but he has to survive the current wrath of Paulie/Corey/Nicole. I could realistically see any of the girls winning but it's hard to tell which is the favorite right now. Probably is Natalie because I think Paulie is the only one who wants her out any time soon?

[LukeB]

Yeah I think Paul definitely has a good chance that's for sure. The other guy I'd say has a decent shot at it is James but he has to survive the current wrath of Paulie/Corey/Nicole. I could realistically see any of the girls winning but it's hard to tell which is the favorite right now. Probably is Natalie because I think Paulie is the only one who wants her out any time soon?

I wouldn't mind a James win because of the fantasy competition :hehe: probably Natalie could win too but it depends if anyone takes her to the final 2. I can see Paul and Victor being F2 tbh maybe Michelle 3rd/4th

[caprimint]

Well AarynGries fan asked if Raph relates to all those other things Paulie's said/done when Raph already explained how he relates to Paulie. As if you just CAN'T find a way to relate to or like Paulie without being associated with those things.

Also not just AarynGries... although this is at least not going right at someone for their opinion but still kinda crappy at least IMO...

&
"I lose respect for anyone who still supports Paulie"

@Braden, do you not like any reality TV show character that has asshole-ish behavior that you may have excused because they entertain you? Because I can point out two just off the top of my head that I've seen that you like: Courtney from Survivor: China & Natalie from Micronesia. Obviously you might view them differently or see different levels of how much these characters are assholes or not but I'd assume you like those people because you either find something else entertaining in them or you find them entertaining while they're being an ass - which is perfectly fine to do IMO... that's something pretty common for me personally tbh. If you like them / support them / defend them that doesn't say anything about you as a person.

Anyway, the main thing is I find it ironic that AarynGriesfan would make that kind of post.

Ross I think you questioned why Raph/people like Paulie just fine in a respectable way. :thumbs:
I salute you.

I know this whole debate is very much over, but I also don't like to be thought of categorizing someone in some way of being like the person they support. What people enjoy watching and what people are - are two very different things.

[AarynGriesfan]

I'm glad I don't relate to Paulie's personality TBH bc I'm pretty sure he has narcissistic personality disorder at this point.

part of me wonders if he was this messed up before BB16, but if you develop a complex from your little brother being on a reality TV show then you probably were just an ass the whole time

Based on people who knew him before hand it sounds like he's always just been an arsehole.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I like Paulie and I don't think I'm morally degenerate :P

Right now, I think the best game is being played by Paulie, Paul, and James. Sweety Nat as a coaster thats quirky enough to make it to F3.

Honestly, the rest can go ****** themselves, these are the guys that are playing.

Paulie literally played the exact same game that Frank did after he saw him fail. Natalie played dumb and bided her time and then flipped the house against Paulie and created a situation where he's going home if he doesn't win POV.

[Raph]

Did she *literally* 'play dumb'? I'm pretty sure she is quite dumb, and I like her but still

[Macie Lightfoot]

her read on the house has pretty much been spot on for the past month and she knew all the right notes to hit to get the house to flip so yeah she doesn't seem too dumb to me

[Firewire]

http://i.imgur.com/XujHL.gif?noredirect

[Wizard.]

Paulie literally played the exact same game that Frank did after he saw him fail. Natalie played dumb and bided her time and then flipped the house against Paulie and created a situation where he's going home if he doesn't win POV.

I truly believe that Paulie came up with the idea of a 5-person all male alliance as soon as he found out about the all girls fatal 5. He gives himself too much credit, but he was so jealous of Tiffany coming up with the idea first and that's why he evicted her so he could steal her game plan. Actually, Tiffany probably got that idea from Vanessa who successfully executed that idea with the 5-person alliance in the Scamper Squad (Aus, Liz, Jul, Van, Steve) sure it wasn't all the same gender but it worked out which is even more funny seeing as Paulie makes a point in playing Cody and Derrick's game but he steals Vanessa's :joker:

[Anaesthesia]

Yes, I have seen the light :) After Sunday's HL, it is now for me:

1. Victor
2. James
3. Paul
4. Natalie
Then just meh meh meh until...

Please send Crybaby Meech home, she is REALLY grating.

[JerseyWins]

Episode 24 (apparently I've been an episode off on these recent rankings) + a tiny bit of live feeds post-D.E.

1. Paul
2. Victor
3. Natalie
4. Nicole
5. Paulie
6. Corey
7. James
8. Michelle
Episode 25

1. Paul
2. Victor
3. Natalie
4. Nicole
5. Paulie (tempted to put him lower after his weird behavior has continued but I just don't care for the people below him at all and I still have mixed feelings with Paulie)
6. Michelle (such a weird combination of finding her funny yet annoying)
7. James
8. Corey

[DouglasS]

1. Natalie
2. Michelle
3. James
4. Paul
5. Victor
6. Corey
7. Nicole
8. Paulie

[AarynGriesfan]

1. Natalie
2. Michelle
3. Paul
4. Nicole
5. James
6. Victor
7. Corey
8. Paulie

[LukeB]

1.Paulie
2.Paul
3.Victor
4.Michelle
5,James
6.Natalie
7.Nicole
8.Corey.

[JerseyWins]

Episode 25

1. Paul
2. Victor
3. Natalie
4. Nicole
5. Paulie
6. Michelle
7. James
8. Corey
Episode 27

1. Paul
2. Nicole
3. Victor
4. Natalie
5. Michelle
6. Corey
7. James

Paul has complete grasp of #1 but the next 3 are super close. Bottom 3 are also super close in more of a negative way.

[Wojtek]

1. Natalie
2. Michelle
3. Bridgette
4. Zakiyah
5. Nicole
6. Paul
7. Corey
8. James
9. Victor
10. Paulie

1. Natalie
2. Michelle
3. Nicole
4. Paul
5. Corey
6. James
7. Victor
8. Paulie

[Raph]

After Paulie's eviction... :(

1. Paulie (his segment last episode about being always rational and hating emotions, ahh my dude)
2. Michelle
3. Victor
4. Corey
5. Natalie
6. James
7. Paul
8. Nicole

[Macie Lightfoot]

wasn't pretty much everything he did this week irrational though?

[LukeB]

1.Paulie
2.Paul
3.Victor
4.Michelle
5.James
6.Natalie
7.Zingbot
8.Nicole
9.Corey

[caprimint]

Episode 27

1. Paul
2. Nicole
3. Victor
4. Natalie
5. Michelle
6. Corey
7. James

Paul has complete grasp of #1 but the next 3 are super close. Bottom 3 are also super close in more of a negative way.
Mine is exactly the same as this. Whaaaat, nobody ever shares my opinions?! :laugh:

[JerseyWins]

caprimint :clap1:

[Munchkins]

1. Natalie
2. Michelle
3. Paul
4. James
5. Victor
6. Nicole
7 Corey
8. The Scum of the Earth
9. Polly 5'7 Ego cauliflower

1. Natalie (But if she seriously messes up this week.. Why)
2. Paul
3. Michelle
4. Victor
--------------------------------Big Gap
5. James
6. Nicole
7. Corey


Can't say I really 'dislike' any who are left mind
James just annoys me cause he's a pussy and boring.
Nicole's comments this season have annoyed me, but I don't strongly dislike her
Corey is just a waste of space

Paul has impressed me so much tbh. He's close to number 1..
From his position week 1-3 to how he has manoeuvred each week. Just great

[Anaesthesia]

1. Paul
2. Victor
3. Natalie
4. James
5. Michelle
6. Nicole
7. Corey

[Jay28jay2]

1) Natalie
2) Michelle
3) Victor
4) Paul
5) James
6) Corey
7) Nicole

[azi]

1) Natalie :love:
2) Paul
3) Victor
4) Michelle
5) James
6) Nicole
7) Corey

[JerseyWins]

Episode 27

1. Paul
2. Nicole
3. Victor
4. Natalie
5. Michelle
6. Corey
7. James

Paul has complete grasp of #1 but the next 3 are super close. Bottom 3 are also super close in more of a negative way.
Idk what episode we're on

1. Paul
2. Nicole
3. Victor
4. Natalie
5. Michelle
6. Corey
7. James

Paul or Nicole for the win :love:

Natalie got a bit annoying this week but she was still fine. James annoyed me quite a bit more and he's officially back in red. Michelle & Corey are about even in the sense that I don't really care about either of them within the game. Corey is just consistently ooook/boring/sometimes slightly annoying (but sometimes kinda amusing with Nicole). Meech is more hot and cold, can be funny/pretty likable or annoying. It becomes hard to take her seriously though, which actually helps her likability a bit.

[reece(:]

Michelle to win!

[caprimint]

1) Paul
2) Victor
3) Nicole
4) Corey
5) Natalie
6) Michelle
7) James

[Nick.]

1. Natalie
2. Michelle
3. Nicole
4. Victor
5. Paul
6. James
7. Corey

[reece(:]

1. Michelle
2. Natalie
3. Paul
4. James
5. Victor
6. Nicole
7. Corey

[LukeB]

Overall

1.Bridgette
2.Paulie
3.Tiffany
4.Davonne
5.Paul
6.Michelle
7.Victor
8.James
9.Frank
10.Natalie
11.Nicole
12.Bronte
13.Glenn
14.Corey
15.Jozea
16.Zakiyah

[DouglasS]

1. Michelle
2. Natalie
3. Paul
4. James
5. Victor
6. Corey
7. Nicole


Overall;

1. Tiffany
2. Bridgette
3. Frank
4. Natalie
5. Michelle
6. James
7. Glenn
8. Paul
9. Da'vonne
10. Bronte
11. Victor
12. Josea
13. Corey
14. Zakiyah
15. Nicole
16. Paulie

overall and right now don't fully line up, as for example I'm preferring Michelle to Natalie right now, but overall I've liked Natalie for the whole season [James also] basically

[Raph]

Paulie and Bridgette were the stars of the season for me. But of the remaining:

1. Victor
2. Michelle
3. Paul
4. James
5. Natalie
6. Nicole
7. Corey

[Raph]

That segment where Corey couldn't be bothered to study :bored: typical dumbass recruit

[reece(:]

Overall:

1. Da'Vonne
2. Tiffany
3. Michelle
4. Natalie
5. Jozea
6. Bronte
7. Bridgette
8. Glenn
9. Zakiyah
10. James
11. Paul
12. Victor
13. Frank
14. Nicole
15. Corey
16. Paulie

[Raph]

After the POV episode:

1. Michelle
2. Victor
3. Paul
4. James
5. Natalie
6. Nicole
7. Corey

Ugh I don't want meech to go tonight, the one true superfan left in there :(

[reece(:]

Delete this season after Meech goes

[Raph]

Superfan meech robbed of her rightful title by jealous NicFLOP

[reece(:]

Superfan meech robbed of her rightful title by jealous NicFLOP
:clap2:

Nicflop OUT.

[DouglasS]

I haven't been watching, but I really don't want Michelle to go home, from what I saw of earlier weeks.

Nicole ruins any season shes on by just whining

The only person I would be happy to win now would be Victor, and I hope he does.

1] Michelle
2] Victor
3] Paul / Natalie
4] James
5] Corey
6] Nicole

[Raph]

With meech gone there is nobody I want to see win tbh

1. Victor
2. Nicole ugh really don't like her but at least she's a superfan
3. James
4. Corey
5. Paul
6. Natalie

[reece(:]

1. Victor
2. Natalie
3. James
4. Paul
5. Corey
6. Nicole

[Raph]

Ugh I take it back Nicole is not second for me I just really don't like anyone left :/ I really did like this season for a long time but I guess it won't be beating BB10 as my favourite anytime soon. Kinda like BBCAN4, a solid season but a terrible ending

[JerseyWins]

Idk what episode we're on

1. Paul
2. Nicole
3. Victor
4. Natalie
5. Michelle
6. Corey
7. James

Paul or Nicole for the win :love:

Natalie got a bit annoying this week but she was still fine. James annoyed me quite a bit more and he's officially back in red. Michelle & Corey are about even in the sense that I don't really care about either of them within the game. Corey is just consistently ooook/boring/sometimes slightly annoying (but sometimes kinda amusing with Nicole). Meech is more hot and cold, can be funny/pretty likable or annoying. It becomes hard to take her seriously though, which actually helps her likability a bit.
1. Paul
2. Nicole
3. Victor
4. Natalie
5. Corey
6. James

Paul, Nicole, or Victor is an excellent win. :fc: Natalie would be alright but kinda disappointing since I like Paul/Nicole/Victor waaay more and can just see one of their wins in sight. Corey would be such a wtf finish and definitely a disappointment and James would be awful but hopefully he has no shot anymore.

[Wojtek]

1. Natalie
2. Michelle
3. Nicole
4. Paul
5. Corey
6. James
7. Victor
8. Paulie

1. Natalie
2. Michelle
3. Nicole
4. Corey
5. Victor
6. James
7. Paul

[Wojtek]

I'm done with this tragic season, so here's my overall ranking:

1. Da'Vonne
2. Natalie
3. Michelle
4. Tiffany
5. Bridgette
6. Bronte
7. Zakiyah
8. Nicole
9. Jozea
10. Glenn
11. Corey
12. Victor
13. Frank
14. James
15. Paul
16. Paulie

[caprimint]

1) Paul
2) Nicole
3) Victor
4) Corey
5) James

[JerseyWins]

^ That

[Raph]

1. James
2. Victor
3. Nicole
4. Paul
5. Corey

[Jay28jay2]

i hate them all

[Macie Lightfoot]

i hate them all

...x

[LukeB]

Overall

1.Bridgette
2.Paulie
3.Tiffany
4.Davonne
5.Paul
6.Michelle
7.Victor
8.Nicole
9.James
10.Frank
12.Bronte
13.Glenn
14.Natalie
14.Corey
15.Jozea
16.Zakiyah

[DouglasS]

I split it into who I supported and then who I liked or was indifferent towards or my opinion changed, and then disliked and then really didn't like/don't want to see again

Overall

1. Tiffany
2. Frank
3. Victor
4. Paul
5. Natalie
6. Bridgette
7. Michelle
8. Jozea
9. Glenn
10. James
11. Da'Vonne
12. Bronte
13. Corey
14. Zakiyah
15. Paulie
16. Nicole

[EspeonBB]

1. Tiffany
2. Bridgette
3. Da'Vonne
4. Natalie
5. Jozea
6. Michelle
7. Victor
8. Bronte
9. Glenn
10. James
11. Frank
12. Paul
13. Zakiyah
14. Corey
15. Nicole
16. Paulie

[Macie Lightfoot]

This finale might be something that I need time to digest depending on how it ends, but here's a probably ranking of everyone that may or may not change.

Natalie
Tiffany
Bronte
Michelle
Jozea
Bridgette
Victor
Da'Vonne
Glenn
James
Frank
Corey
Paul
Zakiyah
Nicole
Paulie

[Raph]

Pre finale rankings:

1. Paulie Calafiore
2. Bridgette Dunning
3. Michelle Mayer
4. Tiffany Rousso
5. Da'Vonne Rogers
6. Victor Arroyo
7. Frank Eudy - biggest turnaround this year
8. James Huling
9. Bronte D'aquisto
10. Paul Abrahamian
11. Glenn Garcia
12. Nicole Franzel
13. Zakiyah Everett
14. Corey Brooks
15. Jozea Flores
16. Natalie Negrotti

[JerseyWins]

1. Paul (he gets the slight edge over Da'Vonne on longevity.. although she's still been killing it in the jury house as well :joker:)
2. Da'Vonne
3. Bronte
4. Nicole
5. Victor
6. Natalie
7. Paulie
8. Bridgette
9. Glenn (the GOAT that could have been)
10. Corey (speaking of goats... anyway, the guy is so bland but I'm forced to put him at #10 by default)
11. Michelle
12. Jozea (in hindsight I'm tempted to even put him 1 or 2 spots higher but maybe I wouldn't feel that way if he didn't crash and burn so quickly)
13. Zakiyah
14. Frank
15. Tiffany
16. James

Pretty much. Weak cast IMO although the top few were excellent.

[caprimint]

1) Paul
2) Paulie
3) Frank
4) Tiffany
5) Nicole
6) Victor
7) Corey
8) Natalie
9) Da'Vonne
10) Jozea
11) Bronte
12) Michelle
13) Glenn
14) James
15) Bridgette
16) Zakiyah

[Macie Lightfoot]

okay finalized ranking I think

Natalie
Tiffany
Bronte
Michelle
Jozea
Bridgette
Victor
Da'Vonne
Glenn
James
Frank
Paul
Zakiyah
Corey
Nicole
Paulie

lmao after Jozea there's a huge gap, and then another huge gap after Victor. This cast sucked. (edit: just switched Corey/Zakiyah bc I remembred Corey is friends with Tomi Lahren)

[Raph]

Pre finale rankings:

1. Paulie Calafiore
2. Bridgette Dunning
3. Michelle Mayer
4. Tiffany Rousso
5. Da'Vonne Rogers
6. Victor Arroyo
7. Frank Eudy - biggest turnaround this year
8. James Huling
9. Bronte D'aquisto
10. Paul Abrahamian
11. Glenn Garcia
12. Nicole Franzel
13. Zakiyah Everett
14. Corey Brooks
15. Jozea Flores
16. Natalie Negrotti

Post-finale rankings:

1. Paulie
2. Bridgette
3. Michelle
4. Tiffany
5. Da'Vonne
6. Frank
7. Victor
8. Bronte
9. James
10. Glenn
11. Zakiyah
12. Nicole
13. Paul
14. Corey
15. Jozea
16. Natalie

An amazing season with an awful awful final 6 hahaha

[JerseyWins]

In hindsight, I don't mind this season and the cast is pretty solid. It's definitely better than BB15, BB14 & BB9 for me (and probably BBOTT depending how it goes). After that I'm not sure, it might be better than 1 or 2 more seasons, but basically BB18 isn't as bad as people say it is.

Same with BB16 though, it's nothing special but very underrated online. I think I might prefer BB16 more than BB18 except the endgame for 16 was VERY bad while the endgame for BB18 was still at least decent/watchable to me. The final 2's in both BB16 & BB18 were excellent as well. :clap1: