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Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:01 AM
"EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED, IT'S A SURPRISE EVICTION!!!"

yes, expect the unexpected when there's a surprise eviction at this stage every year.

JTM45
14-09-2016, 12:04 AM
I totally get your points Macie and for the most part completely agree with them.

I'd love to see a great female BB US winner but, for me at least, Nicole doesn't fit that description!
Like you said, it's obvious that Nicole is this year's Production Pet and they're definitely helping her so that they end up with their sickly sweet winner, beloved by casual BB viewers across the US.
Considering some of the fantastic Female Houseguests that played really smart games and also entertained us while doing so only to get **** on by the 'bro alliances' and production teams ensuring they stood no chance of winning i can't help but be infuriated that they think that Nicole is the sort of example to other women considering going on BB of what you need to do and be like to stand a chance of winning BB US these days.:bored:

Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:04 AM
Can't wait to see who Derrick endorses!!!!!!!

JerseyWins
14-09-2016, 12:04 AM
Unpopular opinion but I waaay prefer Nicole this season than last.
This :clap1:

JerseyWins
14-09-2016, 12:05 AM
Paul's DR @ Corey. :joker:

Also... Poor Victor. He's just wanted to be loyal to someone all game and has been screwed over all game by everyone besides Paul. :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:10 AM
Why does the show keep insisting that the Hitmen were a thing? They got a random segment showing their alliance get named (and it was really just treated as another parachute option for Derrick), and then it wasn't referenced again until Cody evicted Caleb at F4.

Jack_
14-09-2016, 12:11 AM
Nicole was **** on BB16 too so the comparisons are pointless tbh, it's just any semblance of endearment she may have had then evaporated this time around

Nicole gave handjobs to a dumb Texan bigot who isn't even into her for two months

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

BB18 in a nutshell

Jack_
14-09-2016, 12:13 AM
I'm watching this live but have the last four eps to catch up on for completion purposes...I can't believe I'm going to put myself through it

DouglasS
14-09-2016, 12:14 AM
Paul/Victor survivor to win HoH please

Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:14 AM
yeah, I liked Nicole a decent amount in BB16 but it was just out of convenience bc she somehow was the biggest opposition to the godawful majority alliance. It's not like her mask slipped or her true colors are showing or [insert your DigitalSpy cliche of choice] because the signs were really all there even back then.

Jack_
14-09-2016, 12:18 AM
'Kiss your ass goodbye' omfg it's funny cause it's true :laugh3:

Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:19 AM
awwwww That Jamesy Really Loves Her *shoves Pringles into mouth*

JTM45
14-09-2016, 12:19 AM
Can't wait to see who Derrick endorses!!!!!!!

I'd guess at Trump!:laugh:

JerseyWins
14-09-2016, 12:20 AM
The Paul & Big Meech comics. :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:23 AM
This is so insulting that they're pretending that Victor's getting evicted because of His Piss Poor Attitude when it was decided, like, within minutes of Corey becoming Head of Household. I get that they have three hours of footage to air and they think everything needs to be suspenseful, but sometimes it's just better to tell it how it is? The episode where McCranda got nominated in BB15 was one of the best ones of the season and it was just an hour of people ****ting on them.

caprimint
14-09-2016, 12:23 AM
Paul's DR @ Corey. :joker:

Also... Poor Victor. He's just wanted to be loyal to someone all game and has been screwed over all game by everyone besides Paul. :joker:
Yeah I feel really sorry for Victor :laugh: He's probably the most genuinely nicest person this season as well.

Jack_
14-09-2016, 12:25 AM
No Derrick, Cody was a boring idiot and that's that

Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:28 AM
No Derrick, Cody was a boring idiot and that's that

I think this whole interview was like 50% of Derrick trying to protect Cody from looking like a complete moron (I don't even want to begin to give Derrick any sort of credit, but that must be exhausting) and 50% of Derrick still being of the mindset where he has to lie to the cameras and to the DR and to interviewers and just spew nonstop BS.

Jack_
14-09-2016, 12:36 AM
I think this whole interview was like 50% of Derrick trying to protect Cody from looking like a complete moron (I don't even want to begin to give Derrick any sort of credit, but that must be exhausting) and 50% of Derrick still being of the mindset where he has to lie to the cameras and to the DR and to interviewers and just spew nonstop BS.

Yeah, his 'I would've taken Cody cause our bond was so strong so I understand why he did it too' is all well and good except Derrick was always going to beat either Cody or Victoria, whereas Cody was only ever going to beat Victoria

I wish the show would stop bending over backwards to defend a whiny dullard and attempt to justify one of, if not the dumbest move ever made

JerseyWins
14-09-2016, 12:38 AM
I love Paul :laugh3:

Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:42 AM
So that speech was basically Paul admitting he has no personality and copying other people? Bloody Legend Xxx

Jack_
14-09-2016, 12:46 AM
Come through Paul, please save us from one of the worst F3's in history

Paul for HoH, James for Veto and Nicole evicted will do me just fine :fc:

Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:48 AM
oh good this awful what the bleep comp :)

JerseyWins
14-09-2016, 12:50 AM
Lolol I love this what the bleep comp tbh.

JerseyWins
14-09-2016, 12:50 AM
James gets the Natalie one wrong... :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
14-09-2016, 12:52 AM
The cheesy game show music and canned laughter for EVERY SINGLE QUESTION is just another instance of this show being wayyyyyy too proud of itself despite the fact that it produces garbage on a weekly basis.

JerseyWins
14-09-2016, 12:56 AM
The Paulie bleep literally had me laughing out loud. :joker:

Yes Paul :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

Jack_
14-09-2016, 12:58 AM
welp I thought the spoiler might be wrong I was getting angry watching that LOL

Jack_
14-09-2016, 12:59 AM
oop perched for more jury house drama

When are they gonna give us damn live feeds cause they'd be useful for **** seasons like this

Jack_
14-09-2016, 02:27 AM
775877411648987136

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She's gonna ****ing ruin him :cheer2:

reece(:
14-09-2016, 03:05 AM
DRAG IT DAY momma

Jack_
14-09-2016, 03:59 AM
oh my god

775886147880824832

:joker: :joker: :joker::joker: :joker::joker: :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:: joker::joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker::joker: :joker::joker: :joker:

Jack_
14-09-2016, 04:01 AM
I'd rather have watched that kid all season than seeing Nicole on Big Brother again

Mokka
14-09-2016, 06:58 AM
oh my god

775886147880824832

:joker: :joker: :joker::joker: :joker::joker: :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:: joker::joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker::joker: :joker::joker: :joker:

:laugh2:

Nailed it kid!

JTM45
14-09-2016, 10:39 AM
''Cause Mama didn't raise no Bitch!'' eh Corey ?
Well she sure did raise a big lump of homophobe that has very little respect for women, a very small brain who happens to do a fantastic impersonation of a BIATCH then......Booooorey!

So sad to see Vic go.....AGAIN.....but the smile returned to my face in a huge way when Paul snatched the win of HOH wins away from the snooze gang!!!! I'm ecstatic!!!!!!!:dance:

Oh i'd love to see him boot Corey's ass right out of that door tomorrow night,just to remind him what a short-sighted BITCH he really is! Physically Corey's defo his only competition in there too and, while i'd also love to see Paul boot either Nicole or James too i really think he could beat either.

Go Paul GOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Do it for yourself, for Vic's revenge and, of course, do it for the FRIENDSHIP!!!!:cheer2:

If this episode (or at least this episode after Vic's sad eviction!) had ended any other way then i really would have struggled to see the Season out!

I wonder if Nicole will go into a pre-emptive pout to try and force Corey not to pull himself off the block if he wins the Veto ? Or the sad pair might even both be up together (is there even a Veto for this Eviction ?).

Those three twats weren't doing any flying side/chest pumps tonight were they!:joker: Karma's a bitch (and so, despite what his Mom may have told him, is Corey!).

caprimint
14-09-2016, 11:03 AM
Paul was hilarious last night :laugh3: "Mama raised a coward" @ Corey not looking him in the eyes after nominating him.

And his speech was just iconic :lovedup: And the fact he was HOH was perfect. Just when he needed it. I bet Nicole and Corey are PISSED they evicted Victor over him.

Tregard
14-09-2016, 01:02 PM
Paul on course to win again, I'm so happy

JerseyWins
14-09-2016, 04:10 PM
oh my god

775886147880824832

:joker: :joker: :joker::joker: :joker::joker: :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:: joker::joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker::joker: :joker::joker: :joker:
OMGGGGGG that is hilarious :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

Headie
14-09-2016, 10:20 PM
I'm perched for this episode for this:

https://67.media.tumblr.com/62fb4ec271af8159f9cc68d777f9f868/tumblr_odi233JBnf1utpccwo2_400.gif https://66.media.tumblr.com/09078e923ea193c61070763b6d6a56b8/tumblr_odi233JBnf1utpccwo1_400.gif

Nick.
14-09-2016, 10:28 PM
Love all the girls reactions to the argument, Natalie's trying not to look, Bridgette's just having fun, Zakiyah couldn't give a sh!t and Michelle is ******* loving it.

Jack_
14-09-2016, 11:28 PM
okay I'm gonna try and watch as many of the episodes I've missed before I get bored, I'm on Victor's HoH win atm

Them giving Pablo a memory wall fade :laugh2:

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 12:16 AM
OMG this turned into a ****ing Flavor of Love reunion

Jack_
15-09-2016, 12:18 AM
Well that's easily the best jury segment of all time. All the crew having to step in :joker:

LukeB
15-09-2016, 12:19 AM
I'm behind by one episode and I watched it live just to see that jury footage..

:joker: that was mad

Jack_
15-09-2016, 12:19 AM
Paulie really is revolting :umm2: tbh though Day didnt act all that great either, her dragging Zakiyah was actually the best part <333333

LukeB
15-09-2016, 12:21 AM
I didn't really care how any of them acted, it was a mess :joker: The Zakiyah drag was the best part.

LukeB
15-09-2016, 12:24 AM
The funny thing is Day and Zakiyah will be friends again

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 12:24 AM
*Nicole wins a comp*

THAT NICOLE IS PLAYING ONE HELL OF A GAME O_O *covers face*

Jack_
15-09-2016, 12:27 AM
If that doesn't prove that Nicole should be evicted and that Corey's a joke I don't know what will

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 12:30 AM
"OH WOW BASEBALL, DID THEY SO THAT FOR COREY???" --Momma Lightfoot


even casuals are starting to get how The Game works

LukeB
15-09-2016, 12:36 AM
Who would have thought that Jury blow up would have been over Zakiyah who was still not that relevant then. expect the unexpected i guess

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 12:50 AM
yup.

Jack_
15-09-2016, 12:51 AM
'first base' yeah sure lol

LukeB
15-09-2016, 12:51 AM
Bye homophobe.

Jack_
15-09-2016, 12:51 AM
And now we pray that doesn't become one of the dumbest moves of all time

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 12:53 AM
lmfao Corey awkwardly dancing around the fact that he wants nothing to do with Nicole outside the house :love:

Jack_
15-09-2016, 12:53 AM
Nicole just got friendzoned on national TV and she doesn't even know it

LukeB
15-09-2016, 12:54 AM
776221734500306944

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 12:55 AM
serves her right for making her final plea at F4 all about some dude who looks like a foot

Jack_
15-09-2016, 12:58 AM
lmaooo how Paul is blatantly stood there waiting for a cue ffs

LukeB
15-09-2016, 01:01 AM
Paul being the final veteran standing.

Jack_
15-09-2016, 01:08 AM
Yeah someone made a good point on Twitter the other day that it's quite funny how Paul was the most vocal about targeting vets in the first week and now here he is with two of them in the F3 :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 01:32 AM
oh, and I love how Natalie says something that could possibly be construed as throwing James under the bus and she gets dragged by the edit for a week straight, but then Nicole actually throws Corey under the bus and she's still Our Small Town Girl Nicole.

rk3388
15-09-2016, 02:01 AM
Paul being the final veteran standing.

:conf:

JerseyWins
15-09-2016, 02:06 AM
I was trying to multi-task while watching this episode and then I missed most of that jury segment... :/ I just saw the jury members & crew suddenly going crazy and I don't even know what it was about (other than Da'Vonne saying not to bring her kid into it) so I gotta go back and rewatch that later. :joker:

Mokka
15-09-2016, 04:00 AM
This whole season became worth watching for those jury highlights alone. Momma Day is still giving me life.

Wish Nicole went over Corey...if she is in final two...the jury are unfortunately giving it to her :(

caprimint
15-09-2016, 12:43 PM
Da'Vonne getting aggressive towards Paulie, I can only imagine the reaction had it been the other way round :whistle:

And Da'Vonne literally hating on Zakiyah because she's chosen not to be a petty bitch and move on from the game and forgive Paulie. :umm2:

Paul holding all of the power this week has just been beautiful. :lovedup:

Ross.
15-09-2016, 03:43 PM
What happened @ jury house?

(Is there videos or do I need to find the episode *sob*)

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 03:44 PM
I think it's more of Da'Vonne realizing that Zakiyah doesn't even stand up for herself so why should she stand up for her?

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 03:49 PM
What happened @ jury house?

(Is there videos or do I need to find the episode *sob*)

basically Michelle made a dig at Paulie and fled the scene (:love:), then Day and Paulie squared up and were in each other's faces while Day called him out for only having issues with women while Paulie put on his best totally-not-racist Black Girl Voice, then Paulie said Day's setting a terrible example for her daughter so she REALLY got in his face, and then Day and Z screamed at each other while security handlers got involved bc Z has a ridiculously low self-esteem and no self-worth and is still ****ing Paulie

Braden
15-09-2016, 03:50 PM
My favourite moment was when Da'Vonne almost made Paulie dissapear with her dress :love:

caprimint
15-09-2016, 03:58 PM
I think it's more of Da'Vonne realizing that Zakiyah doesn't even stand up for herself so why should she stand up for her?
I don't even like Zakiyah, but it's not like Zakiyah did anything wrong or asked Da'Vonne to help fight her battles. :shrug: Da'Vonne literally said that she was pissed that Zakiyah is talking to Paulie again. She's bitter that she's second best and Paulie won her over by being his natural charming self.

Jack_
15-09-2016, 04:03 PM
Paulie won her over because Zakiyah is literally suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. That's the only explanation at this point

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 04:04 PM
yes, Zakiyah is sleeping with Paulie because he is his natural charming self, not because she is pathetic and has no self-esteem and still wants to ride the dick of someone who has continually used and abused her. That's totally why.

LukeB
15-09-2016, 04:05 PM
I don't even like Zakiyah, but it's not like Zakiyah did anything wrong or asked Da'Vonne to help fight her battles. :shrug: Da'Vonne literally said that she was pissed that Zakiyah is talking to Paulie again. She's bitter that she's second best and Paulie won her over by being his natural charming self.

Da'vonne wasn't really Zakiyah's friend I mean if she was then she's a pretty bad friend. It sounded like Da'Vonne is treating her like a baby and not allowing her to make her own decisions/mistakes whatever people might want to call it. I respect Paulie for sticking up for Zakiyah.

The whole thing was pretty over the top and unnecessary, it should not matter that Zakiyah went back to Paulie. It's her life not theirs.

caprimint
15-09-2016, 04:08 PM
Paulie hardly 'abused' her, he was literally playing Big Brother strategically and not emotionally like she was. :joker:

And yeah, I respect Paulie for standing up for Zakiyah as well :clap1: Everything he said was completely accurate, there is no need for Da'Vonne to even involve herself in whatever level their relationship is at.

LukeB
15-09-2016, 04:13 PM
Paulie hardly 'abused' her, he was literally playing Big Brother strategically and not emotionally like she was. :joker:

And yeah, I respect Paulie for standing up for Zakiyah as well :clap1: Everything he said was completely accurate, there is no need for Da'Vonne to even involve herself in whatever level their relationship is at.

I do think he likes her but I don't think it will work but I'm unsure but I understand why he got annoyed with her/turned his back because she was so emotionally attached to him and got jealous really easily.. that's like a put off :joker: I would do the same if it got me $500k, I have to put my morals out the door and do everything I can and it's quite known showmances can be a good thing because they can get far,run the game etc. As much as they are awful but if it helps then go for it. the final 6 was literally 3 duos. In this game you need a duo. All the legends have duos.

Jack_
15-09-2016, 04:14 PM
Day acted like a twat getting up in his face and I agree it wouldn't be accepted the other way round, but Paulie was his usual disgusting self by involving a defenceless child and trying to drag Bridgette into the argument for no reason at all :umm2: he's literally the most appalling houseguest since Scumanda and I struggle to see the appeal. I mean Cody was a whiny bore but at least he isn't an awful person

As for Zakiyah, she's just a pathetic waste of space. She'll look back and appreciate the home truths a few years down the line

LukeB
15-09-2016, 04:16 PM
No reason at all? I love Bridgette more than any of them but she was getting involved for no reason, she started on him first.

Jack_
15-09-2016, 04:20 PM
I don't recall that, I thought it was Michelle? All I remember is her smirking on the sofa and then he started insulting her :umm2:

LukeB
15-09-2016, 04:24 PM
Michelle made a comment about the veto, Da'vonne clapped and agreed, Paulie got annoyed and defended Zakiyah. Then Da'vonne spoke up and then Bridgette got involved. He never started on Bridgette randomly.

Jack_
15-09-2016, 04:38 PM
Okay I watched it back and I stand corrected, but he came across even worse now I was paying more attention to the dialogue :umm2:

Day's saying 'don't bring my daughter into it' and he's just like 'I just did, I just did'. The guy's a class A ******

LukeB
15-09-2016, 04:44 PM
I find the argument way over the top and stupid to care who came across worse :joker: it's hilarious now. Something so small set everything off.

Jack_
15-09-2016, 04:46 PM
Well it was probably the most entertaining bit of television all season, but they still showed themselves up

LukeB
15-09-2016, 04:52 PM
I hope BB19 is 70 days or something. I liked this season but 90 days is too much :joker:

LukeB
15-09-2016, 05:02 PM
I can't decide out of Corey and Zakiyah who was the most boring housemate :think:

both were flops.

I like Zakiyah as a person and I dislike Corey because of his homophobia and setting fire to a goat :umm2:

Corey played better I guess.

caprimint
15-09-2016, 06:13 PM
I don't think Zakiyah is an awful person or anything, she actually seems pretty nice and caring. She was obviously a complete bore and non-entity in the game, but I feel like we didn't get to see much of her personality, she was irrelevant until her showmance.

Paulie was definitely wrong to bring Da'Vonne's child into the argument, but Da'Vonne also has no business speaking about Paulie's relationship with Zakiyah which again is a personal thing. :shrug: However, no matter what Paulie said she still should've sat the **** down and controlled herself instead of getting up in his face like she did.

Samm
15-09-2016, 08:30 PM
Zakiyah is such a fool, exactly the type of girls I don't like that, but a massive mess at people disliking her but supporting paulie lol

LukeB
15-09-2016, 08:32 PM
Zakiyah is such a fool, exactly the type of girls I don't like that, but a massive mess at people disliking her but supporting paulie lol

Because she's a bore and didn't bring anything? at least Paulie was somehow entertaining and a big part of the season.

Samm
15-09-2016, 08:34 PM
"entertaining"

caprimint
15-09-2016, 08:41 PM
"entertaining"
He has undeniably brought drama to the season and without him there would have been much less to talk about for sure.

It seems as though other opinions besides a certain general 'popular' one can't be respected with the "wow how can (insert name here) have support" argument. It has zero validity because there is no substance to it.

Braden
15-09-2016, 08:41 PM
I love how Bridgette got so frustrated she ended up not making sense :joker:

"You literally make my skin boil."

LukeB
15-09-2016, 08:44 PM
He has undeniably brought drama to the season and without him there would have been much less to talk about for sure.

It seems as though other opinions besides a certain general 'popular' one can't be respected with the "wow how can (insert name here) have support" argument. It has zero validity because there is no substance to it.

:clap1:

Girls get away with sooooo much stuff like Aubry spitting in Bear's sandwich and Farrah and her nasty comments so if people can like them then people can like Paulie.

Samm
15-09-2016, 08:46 PM
Bear deserved it. Regarding Farrah didn't like her or Austin

caprimint
15-09-2016, 08:47 PM
:clap1:

Girls get away with sooooo much stuff like Aubry spitting in Bear's sandwich and Farrah and her nasty comments so if people can like them then people can like Paulie.
You got comments then like "Bear deserved it" :umm2: And you got Renee's threatening comments, all Bear needed to do was smash some eggs and he got **** for that. :joker: The double standards are unreal when it comes to gender.

If a woman does something bitchy she's a "Queen" but if a man does then he's a "****".

caprimint
15-09-2016, 08:48 PM
Bear deserved it.
Oh my god :joker::joker::joker:

Samm
15-09-2016, 08:49 PM
Queen Reneehttp://i.imgur.com/qT5pzcI.gif

LukeB
15-09-2016, 08:50 PM
You got comments then like "Bear deserved it" :umm2: And you got Renee's threatening comments, all Bear needed to do was smash some eggs and he got **** for that. :joker: The double standards are unreal when it comes to gender.

If a woman does something bitchy she's a "Queen" but if a man does then he's a "****".

Me to say Natalie deserved it? I don't think it's a valid reason(there really isn't a valid reason to spit), it was still disgusting and vile no matter who it was to.

and that's true, i kind of wish Nicole was a tibb member tbh

Macie Lightfoot
15-09-2016, 08:53 PM
He has undeniably brought drama to the season and without him there would have been much less to talk about for sure.

It seems as though other opinions besides a certain general 'popular' one can't be respected with the "wow how can (insert name here) have support" argument. It has zero validity because there is no substance to it.

The same could be said about Dick Donato and like the entire cast of BB15 and a bunch of other people lol.

caprimint
15-09-2016, 08:56 PM
Me to say Natalie deserved it? I don't think it's a valid reason(there really isn't a valid reason to spit), it was still disgusting and vile no matter who it was to.

and that's true, i kind of wish Nicole was a tibb member tbh
Yeah it's not really okay to even defend that sort of behaviour.

Nicole would totally be on our side :flutter:

caprimint
15-09-2016, 08:59 PM
The same could be said about Dick Donato and like the entire cast of BB15 and a bunch of other people lol.
I can't comment on this because I don't know any of those people.

All I'm saying is I can understand any housemate getting support no matter who it is, because needless to say - everybody views situations differently and has different opinions.

LukeB
15-09-2016, 09:03 PM
I can't comment on this because I don't know any of those people.

All I'm saying is I can understand any housemate getting support no matter who it is, because needless to say - everybody views situations differently and has different opinions.

The forum would be boring if everyone liked/disliked the same people lol. People should be allowed to like/dislike whoever they want because everyone has a different view and will see things differently to other people, it's crazy how it's a big deal who supports who. I'm not going to change my opinion on Paulie because he;s hated. I only really hate people who are racist/homophobic etc if they didn't say those things and that if I find them likeable and decent to watch I will like them.

caprimint
15-09-2016, 09:08 PM
The forum would be boring if everyone liked/disliked the same people lol. People should be allowed to like/dislike whoever they want because everyone has a different view and will see things differently to other people, it's crazy how it's a big deal who supports who. I'm not going to change my opinion on Paulie because he;s hated. I only really hate people who are racist/homophobic etc if they didn't say those things and that if I find them likeable and decent to watch I will like them.
Exactly. :clap2: Yeah, obviously being homophobic and racist is awful but if I enjoy watching them on a show I'm not going to instantly dislike them because of their views even if they are absolutely terrible ones.

You could probably find something bad about many of the housemates if you analyzed every single thing they did/said and reviewed their backgrounds and histories etc. Nobody is perfect and the bottom line for me is: if I like what I see then an irrelevant factor isn't going to change my mind.

LukeB
15-09-2016, 09:16 PM
Exactly. :clap2: Yeah, obviously being homophobic and racist is awful but if I enjoy watching them on a show I'm not going to instantly dislike them because of their views even if they are absolutely terrible ones.

You could probably find something bad about many of the housemates if you analyzed every single thing they did/said and reviewed their backgrounds and histories etc. Nobody is perfect and the bottom line for me is: if I like what I see then an irrelevant factor isn't going to change my mind.

Which is fair, I wouldn't be annoyed if you did etc :p I saw Paulie fans around social media saying they didn't condone his comments etc but they still love him, which is still fair because some people are like that like I'm with them on that point

I agree, no matter how amazing they are each hm has a positive and a negative might not be equally balanced but it's still there. Even the bad ones have positives.

Macie Lightfoot
16-09-2016, 12:09 AM
Paulie hardly 'abused' her, he was literally playing Big Brother strategically and not emotionally like she was. :joker:

And yeah, I respect Paulie for standing up for Zakiyah as well :clap1: Everything he said was completely accurate, there is no need for Da'Vonne to even involve herself in whatever level their relationship is at.

And not to bring this up again but since I was mobile earlier, why do people on this show and watching this show feel the need to frame everything as strategic and emotional? This isn't even @ you caprimint, but since you brought up how Paulie was playing strategically and not emotionally, it reminded me how much he harped on that point and ****ing Nicole is still going on about "well I need to make a strategic move, not an emotional one!", and even James pulled that **** during Day's boot week. Like... what was strategic about Paulie telling Natalie she's as fake as her tits? What was strategic about him screaming at her in the HoH Room for 15 minutes in front of the entire house without being able to read the room? What was strategic about him refusing to bake any pies for a full day and cry all week when he was nominated? What was strategic about Nicole giving Corey handjobs in bed for two months?

I could go on and on but I'll end by saying that I think it's so ****ing annoying and stupid that so many people approach this show with the frame of mind that Strategy Is Good and Emotions Are Bad (it doesn't help that the show frames itself with this mindset too) when that's just not true lol. It's not as black-and-white and there is a loooooooot of overlap between the two. Not to mention that if you play the game without emotions you just end up being a robot that nobody cares about and thus won't have any incentive to give you $500,000. This is a game that at its core is about personal relationships and connections with people, not arbitrarily moving people around like they're chess pieces and ignoring their emotions, not to mention ignoring your own.

I don't know, I just realized this year how prevalent this mindset is and I think it's sooooooooooo self-aggrandizing. It's the BB equivalent of Ciera Easting yelling about how you have to MAKE BIG MOVES and PLAY DA GAME.

caprimint
16-09-2016, 12:33 AM
I think they all try to play strategically but it's hard not to let your emotions get the better of you which adds to the reasons of why I respect Paulie's game. Was everything he (or any of them, as a matter of fact) did seen as strategical? Absolutely not, but some of them were better at it than others. I think it's just easier to get screwed over by playing too emotionally (Zakiyah and Michelle having breakdowns and most people in showmances do this too, even Victor by putting his full trust in others), but I think Paul has had a pretty great balance between strategic and emotion, which is the majority of the reason he's still there when he began at the bottom.

JerseyWins
16-09-2016, 06:14 AM
I finally properly watched the jury house fight and lmaooo that was GOOD. I think Da'Vonne looked the worst in it tbh but was the most entertaining / best part of it. :joker: Paulie also added to the entertainment but also came across pretty bad when he brought up Day's kid. Aside from that I (kinda surprisingly) feel like he was respectable in that situation with everyone going at him/Zakiyah like that & Da'Vonne getting in his face yelling. I get it / whatever if people think he deserves it lol.

I don't think anyone looked awful either. It was a funny, highly intense blowup. I just see it as good TV all around.

In the end I actually felt kinda bad for Zakiyah in all of that despite not liking her at all... but she was just kinda.. there.. as always. :joker:

JerseyWins
16-09-2016, 06:53 AM
Oh and also... Thank God Da'Vonne made jury. :joker:

Jack_
17-09-2016, 12:13 AM
okay so this isn't surprising

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But this is

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Shame there's no way he's gonna make it to part 3 *sigh*

Jack_
17-09-2016, 12:17 AM
Wait is this not a recap episode? They've shown part one already judging by the updates

LukeB
17-09-2016, 12:26 AM
James only wants a f2 with paul because he knows he has the votes. James would win over Paul and it would such a under deserving win. He has done nothing

Jack_
17-09-2016, 12:33 AM
Well here's some positive news from this season for once, Dr Will hosted the roundtable again (I was worried Grodner would pull some **** like inviting Derrick :rolleyes:) and has described it as the 'best, most opinionated, most entertaining jury that I have seen in my four years of participating in the jury debate'

http://zap2it.com/2016/09/will-kirby-big-brother-18-jury-entertaining-kinetic-conflicted/

A full ten minutes of it on the finale please and thank you :cheer2:

Jack_
17-09-2016, 12:35 AM
What was the tension like between Da'Vonne, Paulie and Zakiyah after their blow-up the other night?

For legal reasons I am not allowed to comment on this question specifically. I am allowed to state that all precautions were made to ensure the safety of all jury members and everyone ultimately was allowed and encouraged to air their grievances. The show will offer more information during the live finale.

Fight Night incoming?

Macie Lightfoot
17-09-2016, 12:36 AM
I think that... the jury roundtable is ****ing stupid and a waste of time, just like the majority of the finale, and the majority of the season. Sorry! How predictable of me, right?

Jack_
17-09-2016, 12:41 AM
Did you just self combust? :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
17-09-2016, 12:56 AM
eh, I just think it's dumb and staged (like a majority of things on this show), and I think the fact that the show feels like there's a need to have someone "facilitate" it is stupid since the purpose is really to get Will to try and steer them away from being bitter (:rolleyes:) and voting for The Right Person.

And then my other biggest issue with the finale format is how dumb the jury questioning is, because they pre-write the questions and not everyone even gets to ask a question and they're usually suuuuuuper tame and ask about nothing and they don't end up effecting anything. I can't think of a single Big Moment that came from BBUS jury questions and I think that's a big problem.

Jack_
17-09-2016, 01:06 AM
Oh I agree about the jury questioning, the fact they all have to agree on three questions is awful :umm2: they should get one each like they always used to. I'd actually be quite resentful as a juror if I'd spent six weeks in a house where I'm not even competing for money only to not get my chance to address the finalists. Survivor definitely lead the way on this although in recent seasons they seem to have dropped the opening and closing statements too which I don't like

I do think the roundtable worked better when they all just discussed it amongst themselves but hey it's an appearance from Dr Will so I can't knock if :laugh:

Macie Lightfoot
17-09-2016, 01:26 AM
I think my biggest issue with it all is that since Will started hosting the roundtable in BB15, it's definitely a reaction on production's end to Ian winning BB14 and that being The Wrong Decision, and I think it's kinda ****ty to undermine a winner like that, not to mention the fact that Dan's BB14 game was pretty much textbook as how to not manage a jury of your peers, not to mention that Dan ****ing sucks.

and yeah, the staged questions that they all agree on (not to mention that production agrees on, they for sure make the questions as safe as possible) are just lame and anticlimactic. Give me anger, give me vitriol. Let them Go There.

BBUKAUSFAN
17-09-2016, 01:45 AM
ep 41 being a recap why do they even bother doing this? such a waste of time just show me the part 1 comp in full.

starry
17-09-2016, 12:04 PM
I stopped watching weeks ago, too many twats in there. Paul started off ok then become a grade A twat. Da'Vonne was the bitch she always is. Zakiyah wasn't the nicest to Tiffany. Nicole was 'surprised' at her own vote to evict Bridgette, like she has no mind of her own, stupid ****in eviction. James is just fake and annoying as always. Natalie tried to play victim, I love how apparently the James/Natalie thing turned **** when I stopped watching, LOVE that.

Da'Vonne probably fancies Paulie, maybe she wanted her butt slapped. :D

Pete.
17-09-2016, 12:11 PM
Da'Vonne probably fancies Paulie, maybe she wanted her butt slapped. :D

How degrading and stupid lol

starry
17-09-2016, 12:16 PM
Da'Vonne is degrading the way she carries on. She is passive-aggressive. The delight she took in Tiffany crying showed it all.

Macie Lightfoot
17-09-2016, 01:11 PM
I stopped watching weeks ago, too many twats in there. Paul started off ok then become a grade A twat. Da'Vonne was the bitch she always is. Zakiyah wasn't the nicest to Tiffany. Nicole was 'surprised' at her own vote to evict Bridgette, like she has no mind of her own, stupid ****in eviction. James is just fake and annoying as always. Natalie tried to play victim, I love how apparently the James/Natalie thing turned **** when I stopped watching, LOVE that.

Da'Vonne probably fancies Paulie, maybe she wanted her butt slapped. :D

I'm pretty sure the Nicole thing was a joke lol

caprimint
17-09-2016, 02:21 PM
Da'Vonne probably fancies Paulie, maybe she wanted her butt slapped. :D
:joker:

At least she could've gone off again then and got even more attention on herself.

reece(:
17-09-2016, 02:28 PM
Day scalping Paulie is the highlight of the season.

Jack_
21-09-2016, 10:55 PM
778641753209446401

:joker:

Nick.
21-09-2016, 11:34 PM
Throwback

https://67.media.tumblr.com/fbf04a5d4164fded0629ea4c36007da9/tumblr_inline_odvmoayzsT1r086fu_540.jpg

Jack_
21-09-2016, 11:37 PM
Watching a few more eps I missed before the finale (and before I inevitably get bored and watch the Survivor premiere)

The MacGyver comp was actually pretty cool and one of the best they've done for a long while. Definitely a Trevor Boris creation :clap1:

LukeB
21-09-2016, 11:38 PM
The comps this year have been amazing, I know some have been overused each season but they are still wonderful. One of the things I love about BBUS. I love how they didn't have loads of question comps those are boring.

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 12:21 AM
I think a lot of the question comps are better than the same, tired carnival games we get every season. The egg comp is legit ****ing BORING to watch, and the fishbowl one really isn't much better. Quiz comps also have the decency to end during the live show, but production clearly doesn't have enough faith in its cast and its show to produce an episode without a competition.

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 01:28 AM
90 more minutes and we can put this **** behind us for good

mood and aesthetic:
https://media.giphy.com/media/l2Sqjw4EJ5PtDTeyQ/giphy.gif

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 01:33 AM
this recap is really embarrassing and it's bad when you realize that the show is actually proud of what it puts forth.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 01:37 AM
Is this part one of the final HoH or some mid season Veto comp?! What's wrong with just a normal endurance?

LukeB
22-09-2016, 01:39 AM
Paul :joker:

LukeB
22-09-2016, 01:40 AM
I hope they tell us what exactly is going on. We should know the cast sometime this week too?

Jack_
22-09-2016, 01:40 AM
Julie luv can we please just have a pure season with no twists and certainly no influence from America x

Jack_
22-09-2016, 01:41 AM
I honestly think they should do the premiere live

LukeB
22-09-2016, 01:44 AM
Julie luv can we please just have a pure season with no twists and certainly no influence from America x

I wish for a pure season on all editions of big brother but :( they just won't give it us and I don't think we will ever see a pure season again.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 01:45 AM
okay this comp is better

LukeB
22-09-2016, 01:47 AM
I hope they guy who is in charge of all the comps never quits his job

LukeB
22-09-2016, 01:52 AM
Throw it to Paul Nicole if you don't want to make that choice.

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 01:52 AM
bitch what have you done with your picnic tablecloth looking ass......xx

Jack_
22-09-2016, 01:53 AM
Dreading part 3 already

Shall be listening out for the 'way' Corey makes his statement :rolleyes:

LukeB
22-09-2016, 01:54 AM
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LukeB
22-09-2016, 01:55 AM
Legend Dr Will :clap1:

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 01:57 AM
Corey screaming COME ON BRO, PLAY THE GAME what have you done yourself hun...x

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:03 AM
LMFAO WHAT THE **** IS THIS xxx

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:03 AM
'Crown the winner'

it's over before it's begun

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:04 AM
oh my ****ing God at Jason and Jozea tho :love:

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:04 AM
oh my god we're gonna get ****ing Jason when we NEED Jozea.

This makes me so much less inclined to keep up with this OTT bull****.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:05 AM
Anyway re the roundtable

Will trying not to laugh :joker: :joker: :joker: me <33333

Corey's a moron, fam Nicole's hate for Meech WAS personal and it's pretty laughable that you're criticising James for not playing the game

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:06 AM
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****ing drag it

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:06 AM
Come through Paul :worry:

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:08 AM
yeah the roundtable was pretty ****, especially the moments you could tell that Will was just reading his script and guiding them to feel a certain way ("so if someone says something mean to you, you WON'T vote for them to win??? :smug:") and the show working overtime to frame Nicole as some mastermind is just so offensive.

I seriously can't tell you how depressing this Jason/Jozea thing is. Why are most BB gays so awful :\

LukeB
22-09-2016, 02:14 AM
Paul :clap1:

LukeB
22-09-2016, 02:15 AM
I do think Paul has won tbh.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:15 AM
YAAAAAAAASSSSJDJFFjfbf that was too much for me

Now don't be an idiot Paul :idc:

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:17 AM
But James Doesn't Deserve To Be In The Final Two

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:20 AM
oh dear god no

LukeB
22-09-2016, 02:21 AM
Now James needs to lose AFP..

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:21 AM
:facepalm:

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:25 AM
I can't believe he's going to put me through the torment of thinking he's gonna lose to Nicole wtf this bitch should've been out at F4

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:28 AM
This isn't surprising at all but like... Nicole's about to be a winner of Big Brother. Nicole's about to be the first woman to beat a man in the final two. Nicole's about to become a poster child for BBUS feminism despite being a self-hating woman. Nicole's going to get credit for letting a gigantic male alliance (one she didn't even know existed until after it disassembled) act as her chariot, pulling her to $500,000. This is amazingly disgusting and depressing and just pulling me further and further away from this show. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:29 AM
omg Day vote for Paul

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:30 AM
Can't wait to listen to the jury lob softballs of questions at Paul and Nicole :rolleyes: their minds are already made up, this is so pointless

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:32 AM
Translation: "My biggest move was having production tell Natalie that they wanted to see two couples in the final four."

Paul's answers are ****. His inexperience is showing.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:35 AM
Paul's answers are terrible ffs

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:36 AM
And to think most people (including me) thought he was the better talker of the two

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:37 AM
What the bloody hell is this

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Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:38 AM
And to think most people (including me) thought he was the better talker of the two

Ultimately I don't think the answers matter that much (whether that's a good thing or not idk since I think Nicole's still gonna win regardless), but I can't help but imagine how helpful it is that Nicole's very good friends with Ian, Andy, and Derrick. I'm sure she got plenty of how-to prep in case she made it this far.

Compare that to Paul, who wasn't sure if the jury questioning was before or after they voted, and the gaps are hugely apparent.

LukeB
22-09-2016, 02:39 AM
What the bloody hell is this

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This is so confusing.

LukeB
22-09-2016, 02:42 AM
"Hey guyssssss....snake joke" :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:43 AM
Corey, Paulie, Zakiyah, James, and Natalie at minimum.

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:47 AM
are we ready for The Nicoronation???

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:52 AM
I think the funniest part of tonight was just showing the pre-jury for two seconds and then immediately cutting to the votes :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:53 AM
lmfao called that ****

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:53 AM
Day cancelled forever

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:53 AM
this is like if Steph Coldicott won BBUK4

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:57 AM
oh godddddddddd Julie don't make Nicole the hero women across the world didn't know they needed.

This really feels like a nightmare come to life. Even if we all saw it coming.

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 02:57 AM
did anybody catch James bracing himself getting ready to celebrate as soon as Julie said "and with over 4 million votes..." ?

LukeB
22-09-2016, 02:58 AM
Nicole calling herself a rat :joker:

Jack_
22-09-2016, 02:59 AM
I nearly threw up when she acknowledged that stat

Like, we all know, but let's not celebrate it. It's ****ing Nicole Franzel for **** sake don't make her an icon

LukeB
22-09-2016, 03:01 AM
Well that's every big brother over until January ... OTT sounds **** already so that's a miss.

LukeB
22-09-2016, 03:04 AM
The vote was soo close! but Natalie obviously voted for Nicole because she's a female not because of who played better.

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 03:05 AM
The vote was soo close! but Natalie obviously voted for Nicole because she's a female not because of who played better.

Haven't you been going on and on about how Nicole played the best game? And Paul was a huuuuuuuuuuuge douche to and about Natalie, and when she brought it up in her jury question he just brushed it off as "well that's just how I am, you guys all know that! :P"

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:06 AM
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Is there anything this woman is wrong about?

LukeB
22-09-2016, 03:08 AM
not like it's ever going to be beaten but Dan still remains the best Michigan winner :)

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:09 AM
I can't believe Day actually voted for Paul :umm2: I know she sung Nicole's praises at the roundtable but she did with Paul too and she literally said 'as long as it's not Paul' when asked who got evicted wtf

This is without question the worst season of BBUS/BBCan I've watched live (since 2013) and Nicole is probably my least favourite winner of all of them

zakman440
22-09-2016, 03:11 AM
Very disappointing result (to be expected really given how the majority of the season has gone). Kind of makes me feel glad that my interest fizzled out in the past couple of weeks.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:12 AM
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King of trolling

LukeB
22-09-2016, 03:15 AM
I don't even have an opinion on Nicole's win it's just meh, two years ago I would have been happy.. she's probs in the bottom 6 of the winners for me because I do prefer her win over Steve,Evil Dick,BB9 winner,Andy and maybe Jordan.. probably tied with Derrick because I don't care about him at all.

DrunkerThanMoses
22-09-2016, 03:16 AM
At least victor won afp.

Lol Da'Vonne proven what a pathetic person she is once more. Can she seriously **** off now and never return.

Natalie also pathetic.

DrunkerThanMoses
22-09-2016, 03:18 AM
I don't even have an opinion on Nicole's win it's just meh, two years ago I would have been happy.. she's probs in the bottom 6 of the winners for me because I do prefer her win over Steve,Evil Dick,BB9 winner,Andy and maybe Jordan.. probably tied with Derrick because I don't care about him at all.

Down there with rachel and Jordan. A bit better then them as she didn't have as much production rigging in her favor. She does sucks as a female and a human being

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 03:19 AM
I can't believe Day actually voted for Paul :umm2: I know she sung Nicole's praises at the roundtable but she did with Paul too and she literally said 'as long as it's not Paul' when asked who got evicted wtf

This is without question the worst season of BBUS/BBCan I've watched live (since 2013) and Nicole is probably my least favourite winner of all of them

She was a second boot and they brought her back, and they want to bring her back again. CBS owns and controls her.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:19 AM
On the plus side, I did get a winner prediction right for once!

And I guess a 5-4 vote is more interesting than the endless 7-2's or 6-3's

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:21 AM
She was a second boot and they brought her back, and they want to bring her back again. CBS owns and controls her.

True, Grodcunt wanted this ending and that's what she got

AarynGriesfan
22-09-2016, 03:24 AM
I thought I would be happy to predict the winner right for once but nope I am pissed. Da'Vonne ruined another season. But god what a terrible decision to take Nicole over the slam dunk vs James.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:26 AM
Yeah it's definitely up there as one of the dumbest ever moves, not quite on the scale of Cody taking Derrick but bad enough

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:27 AM
I told y'all she needed to go at F4. Corey wasn't winning ****

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 03:27 AM
yeah, I know lots of people think Paul played an amazing game, and when you compare his to James's and Nicole's I do get it, but he made soooooooooo many mistakes with just general strategy and jury management and who he evicted at F3.

LukeB
22-09-2016, 03:29 AM
I told y'all she needed to go at F4. Corey wasn't winning ****

Paul might have won if everyone voted for who they think played the best game but one silly bitch voted for a female because they are female so who knows.

JerseyWins
22-09-2016, 03:30 AM
Paul absolutely DESTROYED that final speech. One of the best closing statements I've ever seen on this show. :worship: (but he gave a lot of short, not very good answers during the questioning)

I loved Nicole during the jury questioning as well. :joker:

Heart-breaking that Paul got so close and lost a 5-4 vote but this was still a very good result. :clap1:

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 03:32 AM
Paul might have won if everyone voted for who they think played the best game but one silly bitch voted for a female because they are female so who knows.

or, like I just told you upthread, Paul could have had any sort of jury management and not unnecessarily bashed Natalie in her final week or at least give some form of an apology during her jury question. He has no one to blame but himself for losing that vote.

DrunkerThanMoses
22-09-2016, 03:33 AM
yeah, I know lots of people think Paul played an amazing game, and when you compare his to James's and Nicole's I do get it, but he made soooooooooo many mistakes with just general strategy and jury management and who he evicted at F3.

Agreed, but like you said compared to the other 2 he was the best of the 3.

Hes unlucky to have idiots like Davonne and Zak on the jury and feminests like Natalie on jury... I mean if Hitler had a vagina and was in the final 2, Natalie would probably vote for Hitler just because he had a vagina.

LukeB
22-09-2016, 03:33 AM
Paul absolutely DESTROYED that final speech. One of the best closing statements I've ever seen on this show. :worship: (but he gave a lot of short, not very good answers during the questioning)

I loved Nicole during the jury questioning as well. :joker:

Heart-breaking that Paul got so close and lost a 5-4 vote but this was still a very good result. :clap1:

His final speech was one the best ones I've heard in a long time. Nicole's was good and it's such an improvement on Liz's one and Kelsey's.

5-4 made it more tense and I loved it.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:37 AM
Paul might have won if everyone voted for who they think played the best game but one silly bitch voted for a female because they are female so who knows.

I don't think it's entirely fair to pin that solely on Natalie, you could say the same about Zakiyah (or rather she was just following orders from Paulie, idk what's worse), or Day. It's sad because if this jury (and the show) were doing this under the pretense of feminism then it's completely misplaced considering Nicole is the antithesis of everything feminism is

Ultimately though you mold your own path to the F2 and Paul shouldn't have taken Nicole, and he shouldn't have told James to keep her around at F4. It was already over

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 03:41 AM
or you could just pin it on Paul himself because he was a loud abrasive asshole all summer? Just a thought.

LukeB
22-09-2016, 03:42 AM
I don't think it's entirely fair to pin that solely on Natalie, you could say the same about Zakiyah (or rather she was just following orders from Paulie, idk what's worse), or Day. It's sad because if this jury (and the show) were doing this under the pretense of feminism then it's completely misplaced considering Nicole is the antithesis of everything feminism is

Ultimately though you mold your own path to the F2 and Paul shouldn't have taken Nicole, and he shouldn't have told James to keep her around at F4. It was already over

Natalie has been soooooo desperate for a female to win and has said many times she would vote for a female. Zakiyah and Day don't harp on about girl power as much as Natalie does.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:43 AM
Actually none of this would've happened they not cast the awful brother of a ****ing dullard veteran that already had ties to one of the F2 outside of the show, and had said F2 member coached by one of the least entertaining winners of all time

Or really, you could just trace this back to the very beginning and Grodner could've not casted such an irrelevant vet

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 03:44 AM
well Nicole also didn't make fun of her fake tits all summer behind her back and to her face. I know you've had your vendetta from Natalie from the start and this is just confirmation bias for you, but this is literally Big Brother 101. If you're an offensive asshole to a lot of the jurors, don't expect them to want to reward you with half a million dollars.

DrunkerThanMoses
22-09-2016, 03:45 AM
or you could just pin it on Paul himself because he was a loud abrasive asshole all summer? Just a thought.

Combination of both

Natalie would always vote for a girl even if she was the worst female in the world

Day and Zak are useless and stupid

I think Day will regret her decision

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:45 AM
or you could just pin it on Paul himself because he was a loud abrasive asshole all summer? Just a thought.

Never denied that, but as you yourself acknowledged this is also what Grodner and co wanted, so it's what they got

Jordan and Dick spring to mind

LukeB
22-09-2016, 03:47 AM
Actually none of this would've happened they not cast the awful brother of a ****ing dullard veteran that already had ties to one of the F2 outside of the show, and had said F2 member coached by one of the least entertaining winners of all time

Or really, you could just trace this back to the very beginning and Grodner could've not casted such an irrelevant vet

But none of the choices were really irrelevant :laugh: they were all fan favourites they tried to please the viewers otherwise we would have had Amanda instead of Da;Vonne... so we have 4 7th placers.

LukeB
22-09-2016, 03:48 AM
I know you've had your vendetta from Natalie from the start

Had Natalie in my sig once and joined her fan club, yep i soooooooooo had a vendetta against her from the start :)

DrunkerThanMoses
22-09-2016, 03:49 AM
Never denied that, but as you yourself acknowledged this is also what Grodner and co wanted, so it's what they got

Jordan and Dick spring to mind

Add Rachel to that list as well

Again compared to Rachel and Jordan at least production were not obvious they wanted Nicole to win by rigging it for her. She gains merit for playing some sort of her own game, its just she has a awful personality and just sucks.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 03:56 AM
But none of the choices were really irrelevant :laugh: they were all fan favourites they tried to please the viewers otherwise we would have had Amanda instead of Da;Vonne... so we have 4 7th placers.

Nicole was pretty pointless on BB16 and I'd say both Zach and Donny were more of a fan favourite than her, the former has probably burned bridges with CBS and I can only assume they're saving Donny for a fully fledged All Stars or else wtf?

There's loads of better people they could've chosen than her (and James and Frank)

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 03:57 AM
Never denied that, but as you yourself acknowledged this is also what Grodner and co wanted, so it's what they got

Jordan and Dick spring to mind

Oh absolutely, my only point here is that it wouldn't take any extra convincing to get Natalie to vote against Paul in the end. She spent the last month of the game mostly being upset with him for all the FT stuff and for all his needless bashing of her in her boot week and kicking her while she was down. Yeah Paul has a lot more credit on his resume than Nicole did, but his jury management was terrible and his end game had a lot of mistakes. You could name about five different reasons why he lost before even getting into production's behind the scenes work and all the pre-show connections to Derrick.

JerseyWins
22-09-2016, 04:02 AM
I just don't understand the hate for Nicole. :joker:

She's the best female winner the show has had so far (from both a gameplay level - besides maybe Maggie - and a likability level) out of seasons I've seen (since S6).

Also, it IS annoying for someone to vote for a specific gender no matter what (especially with it being a 5-4 vote in this case) but I think Natalie actually genuinely considered both sides tbh and voted for who she thought deserved it in the end. Plus Paul didn't really help his case. :\

JerseyWins
22-09-2016, 04:05 AM
Also I can't really remember if I posted about this somewhere but around the time of Da'Vonne's eviction I actually remember thinking we could see a Paul/Nicole F2 and bad jury management by Paul would give Nicole the win. :joker:

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 04:06 AM
If you think Nicole's game even holds a candle to Maggie's, there's no point in explaining any of it.

Jack_
22-09-2016, 04:07 AM
Oh absolutely, my only point here is that it wouldn't take any extra convincing to get Natalie to vote against Paul in the end. She spent the last month of the game mostly being upset with him for all the FT stuff and for all his needless bashing of her in her boot week and kicking her while she was down. Yeah Paul has a lot more credit on his resume than Nicole did, but his jury management was terrible and his end game had a lot of mistakes. You could name about five different reasons why he lost before even getting into production's behind the scenes work and all the pre-show connections to Derrick.

I do agree, ultimately I think you can salvage a mismanaged jury if you make the right moves in the endgame though. Nicole should've been gone at F4 for a start, and she definitely shouldn't have been taken to the F2. I'm sure we'll be able to piece together how 'they would've voted' if James were sat next to him from exit interviews but it's hard for me to envisage it being as close as it was. It's not often a runner up wins against the third placer because most of the time the HoH is shrewd enough to evict them and/or they've burnt too many jury votes, but this was a complete miscalculation on Paul's part

Jack_
22-09-2016, 04:09 AM
I like Maggie way more than Nicole, and that really is saying something

She's definitely my least favourite female winner, and I don't even hate Dick that much tbh so err maybe I'm being hasty but she might actually be my least favourite overall?

LukeB
22-09-2016, 04:11 AM
Nicole was pretty pointless on BB16 and I'd say both Zach and Donny were more of a fan favourite than her, the former has probably burned bridges with CBS and I can only assume they're saving Donny for a fully fledged All Stars or else wtf?

There's loads of better people they could've chosen than her (and James and Frank)

I do wish they kept Nicole away now because I'm not a fan of her anymore when I use to and it's sad when you're favourite turns awful, she was in my top 6 now she's isn't because of this season, saying that i'm glad better people didn't get picked because I didn't want to turn against them.

I do think better people are being saved for All-Stars though and it's smart because they could have ruined their reputation and have people turn against them.. Nicole came in a fan favourite and a big fan base but she's not leaving BB with that anymore. James has also lost some fans

caprimint
22-09-2016, 04:22 AM
Damn Paul, that was way too close :(

Nicole isn't a bad winner or anything, I just really wanted Paul to win. It's a shame but it's the way I could see this finale heading unfortunately. Paul still played the best game this season.

Yay for Victor winning AFH too :love:

Jack_
22-09-2016, 04:23 AM
I am somewhat glad Nicole's had a turnaround since BB16 cause I never got the love even then

Jack_
22-09-2016, 04:24 AM
Backyard interview snippets:

Bridgette - Paul 'would've won 8-1 against James'

Day - wouldn't have voted for James

Thanks for nothing Paul :rolleyes:

Jack_
22-09-2016, 04:25 AM
778812344646324224

Friendship cancelled

JerseyWins
22-09-2016, 04:29 AM
Damn, that is pretty disappointing then </3

I mean I figured he would win against James but 8-1 damn.

Also I completely forgot about these backyard interviews. Are they on youtube or something?

LukeB
22-09-2016, 04:30 AM
I am somewhat glad Nicole's had a turnaround since BB16 cause I never got the love even then

She was the under dog on her season and everyone loves those, she wasn't in that boy alliance and was pretty much by herself with Donny.

Caleb may not been on big brother again but his 2nd stint on a RTV show from bb16 was the best one imo.

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 04:34 AM
I'm not even sure if it would've been 8-1 bc I think Michelle would've voted for James too? Maybe I'm wrong though idk.

Jeff: What were you surprised the most by what you saw on the internet?
Bronte: That two of the three showmances were having sex in the house :o :)

Pete.
22-09-2016, 06:20 AM
The right person won :clap1:

Victor winning AFH though :unsure: Who was in the Top 3?

Raph
22-09-2016, 07:54 AM
Glad to see the superfan won over he recruit, solid result :clap1:

Wojtek
22-09-2016, 10:02 AM
Nicole :clap1: She was the best in this tragic final 3

Victor winning AFH though :unsure: Who was in the Top 3?

Natalie :love: and James

VanessaFeltz.
22-09-2016, 10:23 AM
AFP vote was rigged there is no way james got more votes than Davonne

Also it was the fitting end for the ****ty season. Everyone in final 5 sucked so let the fans suffer

Ramsay
22-09-2016, 10:30 AM
That one hurt i must admit

LukeB
22-09-2016, 10:33 AM
AFP vote was rigged there is no way james got more votes than Davonne

Also it was the fitting end for the ****ty season. Everyone in final 5 sucked so let the fans suffer

James is more popular with the casuals. Day isn't that popular as you think she is.

Ramsay
22-09-2016, 10:39 AM
also reaffirms my hate for Day

caprimint
22-09-2016, 11:03 AM
AFP vote was rigged there is no way james got more votes than Davonne

Also it was the fitting end for the ****ty season. Everyone in final 5 sucked so let the fans suffer
It's not exactly unrealistic since he got the victim edit and won AFH during his first season.

I remember when everyone was saying "how could Victor win AFH when he didn't even get a care package?!?!?!" :hehe:

coffee
22-09-2016, 11:11 AM
furious and my day would be ruined if vic hadn't won best house guest </3

Natalie.
22-09-2016, 02:30 PM
http://67.media.tumblr.com/f49a7518cb0f0cb840b271e3982922d5/tumblr_odwe0hRKym1utpccwo1_1280.jpg

Ross.
22-09-2016, 04:12 PM
I don't mind the winner I guess

Ross.
22-09-2016, 04:12 PM
http://67.media.tumblr.com/f49a7518cb0f0cb840b271e3982922d5/tumblr_odwe0hRKym1utpccwo1_1280.jpg

Legends only

Macie Lightfoot
22-09-2016, 04:15 PM
I don't mind the winner I guess

For Nicole to be the one to overcome this F2 gender gap, it's truly hilarious and it captures just how often this show ends up with the worst case scenario happening.

Cal.
22-09-2016, 04:17 PM
Nicole did it

Pete.
22-09-2016, 04:23 PM
Natalie :love: and Day :love: :love:

Wow legends

Mokka
22-09-2016, 04:35 PM
The only thing good I have to say is...at least I don't have to watch this crap anymore :idc:

Braden
22-09-2016, 05:04 PM
http://67.media.tumblr.com/f49a7518cb0f0cb840b271e3982922d5/tumblr_odwe0hRKym1utpccwo1_1280.jpg

Thank you for posting this <3

The only thing good I have to say is...at least I don't have to watch this crap anymore :idc:

Me too! :joker:

I won't be watching the finale, but I'm astounded by the news that one of Jason or Jozea will be on BBOTT. That kind of hit me like a ton of bricks :p

Mokka
22-09-2016, 05:24 PM
Thank you for posting this <3



Me too! :joker:

I won't be watching the finale, but I'm astounded by the news that one of Jason or Jozea will be on BBOTT. That kind of hit me like a ton of bricks :p

I fell asleep last night trying to watch it...and woke when Da'Vonne's key was pulled. Turned it off after that. Stopped caring tbh

Braden
22-09-2016, 05:25 PM
I fell asleep last night trying to watch it...and woke when Da'Vonne's key was pulled. Turned it off after that. Stopped caring tbh

I don't blame you.

At least BBCan5 will be just around the corner :love:

EspeonBB
22-09-2016, 05:31 PM
Trash winner. Trash season.

Move onto the next one