Nigel Farage: NHS might have to be replaced by private health insurance

[letmein]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-nhs-might-have-to-be-replaced-by-private-health-insurance-9988904.html

[Vicky.]

Isn't this a surprise...

[GiRTh]

No surpirse at all.

[MB.]

What a wonderful, honourable, trustworthy man

See, I can lie almost as well as him

[Tom4784]

****ing rat.

Less than a day afterwards and that £320 million NHS funding has turned into talks of abolishment.

[joeysteele]

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Well hopefully he will have no say as to that,he needs to get a lot more MPs to Westminster.

However under the electoral system we have in the UK, he has next to no chance of gaining any substantial numbers of them unless he can get UKIP to near 30% and have both Labour and the Conservatives down to something like 27% each.

[Cherie]

The article is from January 2015...he should have no issues now maintaining the NHS with his 350 million a week saving

[MB.]

The article is from January 2015...he should have no issues now maintaining the NHS with his 350 million a week saving

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/

[Scarlett.]

GREAT Britain

Right guys?


Right?

[joeysteele]

The article is from January 2015...he should have no issues now maintaining the NHS with his 350 million a week saving

He has apparently admitted that figure is wrong at last Cherie,so it isn't there for the NHS.
Not that the funds, even if they had been available, are his to decide where they go anyway.

[Jamie89]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/
D:

Shocked at this to be honest. I mean I know I shouldn't be, but I am :facepalm:

[Jamesy]

Did any of you actually read the article? He said this month's ago, and the idea was rejected by the majority of members in his party, he wishes to debate it further with his party so the idea is supported, which is unlikely given they did not support it in the first place.

Plus Farage is not prime minister, nor is UKIP running the country. Not to say the NHS won't be privatised (who knows what will happen), although getting hysterical/worried over something like this is laughable.

[letmein]

Did any of you actually read the article? He said this month's ago, and the idea was rejected by the majority of members in his party, he wishes to debate it further with his party so the idea is supported, which is unlikely given they did not support it in the first place.

Plus Farage is not prime minister, nor is UKIP running the country. Not to say the NHS won't be privatised (who knows what will happen), although getting hysterical/worried over something like this is laughable.

Try reading the rest of the thread, hon.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/

[Jamesy]

Try reading the rest of the thread, hon.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/
I did.

Also did anyone really believe that £350 million would be placed into the NHS? Anyone with a brain cell could spot from a mile that was a load of campaign BS to persuade people who don't understand things to vote.

[MB.]

Anyone with a brain cell could spot from a mile that was a load of campaign BS to persuade people who don't understand things to vote.

...and hey, it worked

[Northern Monkey]

This article was from the start of last year and he's since said in an interview that it was an idea that was floated among others and he does'nt hold this opinion now(if he ever did).
Also Farage is not the PM and never will be so i would'nt go panicking.

Edit:Not to mention he said a few times that he will probably stand down as leader in the not too distant future.

[Tom4784]

This article was from the start of last year and he's since said in an interview that it was an idea that was floated among others and he does'nt hold this opinion now(if he ever did).
Also Farage is not the PM and never will be so i would'nt go panicking.

Edit:Not to mention he said a few times that he will probably stand down as leader in the not too distant future.

He made a promise to do that before and then he pulled some bull**** excuse out of his arse to get out of it. The man's a lying chancer, he won't give up anything until he's forced to.

[Northern Monkey]

He made a promise to do that before and then he pulled some bull**** excuse out of his arse to get out of it. The man's a lying chancer, he won't give up anything until he's forced to.

I don't think he'll see anywhere he can go from here tbh.He won't ever be PM and UKIP won't ever get any power.

[Cherie]

He has apparently admitted that figure is wrong at last Cherie,so it isn't there for the NHS.
Not that the funds, even if they had been available, are his to decide where they go anyway.

I was being facetious Joey, the 350 figure had been debunked several times

[ThriceShy]

I don't think he'll see anywhere he can go from here tbh.He won't ever be PM and UKIP won't ever get any power.

In a PR voting system, UKIP would do very well. Last night's vote showed that.

[microscope]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-nhs-might-have-to-be-replaced-by-private-health-insurance-9988904.html

Interesting article. Nigel Farage said that in ten years time we might have to go down the private route to get our health care. Note the word, "Might" in that sentence, well we can all talk about mights..can't we? Also ten years is a long time. I think most people are worried about the near future to be honest and I highly doubt that we will be losing the NHS in ten years, especially with the massive reduction of foreigners coming to live here within that period of time, now that we are leaving the E.U. Just imagine how much more money and beds that would be taken up if we stayed in Europe. Then the NHS would have been in trouble.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/

Well the advert in the link below, which states, "Let's give our NHS the £350 million the E.U takes out every week", reads to me that it is a suggestion rather than a promise from UKIP.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/05/14/97905329_BRISTOL_ENGLAND_-_MAY_14__Conservative_MP_Boris_Johnson_speaks_as_h e_visits_Bristol_on_May-large_trans++KjggCdpvXjoraOzAlyzu1MOSRhbr0ZABex7Vh 5dC_YU.jpg

[kirklancaster]

Did any of you actually read the article? He said this month's ago, and the idea was rejected by the majority of members in his party, he wishes to debate it further with his party so the idea is supported, which is unlikely given they did not support it in the first place.

Plus Farage is not prime minister, nor is UKIP running the country. Not to say the NHS won't be privatised (who knows what will happen), although getting hysterical/worried over something like this is laughable.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[kirklancaster]

This article was from the start of last year and he's since said in an interview that it was an idea that was floated among others and he does'nt hold this opinion now(if he ever did).
Also Farage is not the PM and never will be so i would'nt go panicking.

Edit:Not to mention he said a few times that he will probably stand down as leader in the not too distant future.

You are wasting your time Paul. The Farage detractors and embittered 'Remain' losers will ignore any posts - no matter how reasonable, factual. or logical - which does not fit in with their own perspectives.

I could fill a thread on here with the broken promises and U-Turns of the EU, David Cameron, Jeremy Corbyn etc etc, but it would be to no avail. (I know because I have posted many)

If picking on something which Farage said, then twisting it, gives them comfort - let them have that succour.

[arista]

Isn't this a surprise...



But Vicky he is Not In Power

[arista]

Did any of you actually read the article? He said this month's ago, and the idea was rejected by the majority of members in his party, he wishes to debate it further with his party so the idea is supported, which is unlikely given they did not support it in the first place.

Plus Farage is not prime minister, nor is UKIP running the country. Not to say the NHS won't be privatised (who knows what will happen), although getting hysterical/worried over something like this is laughable.


Bang On Right

[Liberty4eva]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-nhs-might-have-to-be-replaced-by-private-health-insurance-9988904.html

I am not in the UK but looking at both sides of the argument it seems obvious to me that the side that tried to muddy the waters and deceive the electorate (the most) was the Remain side. Like other commentators have said this is early 2015.

[kirklancaster]

I am not in the UK but looking at both sides of the argument it seems obvious to me that the side that tried to muddy the waters and deceive the electorate (the most) was the Remain side. Like other commentators have said this is early 2015.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: You may be a long distance away Liberty, but you can see more clearly than a lot of Brits. :laugh::wavey:

[Ammi]

...I'm going to punch you on the nose in a minute, Kirk...seriously I'm not though because I have to go, have a bit of a busy day and don't have time for nose punching... but you behave yourself, young man...

[Liberty4eva]

:clap1::clap1::clap1: You may be a long distance away Liberty, but you can see more clearly than a lot of Brits. :laugh::wavey:

Thanks Kirk. The referendum is not going to affect my life a lot but I did listen to both sides. One side did not have truth on their side. They just had threats, insults, and false promises. It should have been 80/20 in favor of Leave and when I say that I am assuming 20% of the population gets money from the EU.

[Suze]

...I'm going to punch you on the nose in a minute, Kirk...seriously I'm not though because I have to go, have a bit of a busy day and don't have time for nose punching... but you behave yourself, young man...

Leave him be, Ammi :hee: ;)

Looking forward to many more posts on this and other Political debates from Kirky and Livia, been loving and agreeing pretty much nigh on 100% with their posts re: EU and other Political stuff.

Carry on Kirky :hee:

[Cherie]

Thanks Kirk. The referendum is not going to affect my life a lot but I did listen to both sides. One side did not have truth on their side. They just had threats, insults, and false promises. It should have been 80/20 in favor of Leave and when I say that I am assuming 20% of the population gets money from the EU.

I don't think you did listen to both sides, from the off you were advocating leave, so you hardly came from a neutral stance, as you say it doesn't affect you, and never set foot in the UK so advising the UK how they should have voted is a nonsense :laugh:

[Livia]

Nigel Farage has no power at all to make a decision about the NHS. Hardly anyone on here has taken his statements as fact in the past... so why start now?

[Liberty4eva]

I don't think you did listen to both sides, from the off you were advocating leave, so you hardly came from a neutral stance, as you say it doesn't affect you, and never set foot in the UK so advising the UK how they should have voted is a nonsense :laugh:

I just might be the most neutral person on this forum. :hehe:

[Cherie]

I just might be the most neutral person on this forum. :hehe:

From the point of view that you don't live here yes :hee:

[Liberty4eva]

From the point of view that you don't live here yes :hee:

I will say this: I wish that our leaders (i.e. Obama) had remained neutral. Because Obama voiced his support for Remain, I had to voice my support for Leave to balance it out. :hee:

[Cherie]

I will say this: I wish that our leaders (i.e. Obama) had remained neutral. Because Obama voiced his support for Remain, I had to voice my support for Leave to balance it out. :hee:


No one paid any heed to Obama in fact I had forgotton he had intervened, there are enough issues going in in his own country to concern himself with

[joeysteele]

In a PR voting system, UKIP would do very well. Last night's vote showed that.

Indeed but one things for sure both the Conservative party and the Labour party will never now agree to that.

Even if Labour and the Conservatives fell to 27% each, and UKIP were on 30%,under the present system, UKIP will still likely fall short of 100 seats.

Things change in politics but not to that level in general elections.

[Cal.]

I kinda like the idea? Paying money for health insurance from your tax would be good - then the people who actually pay into the system would get free healthcare and people who don't would have to pay?

[Tom4784]

I kinda like the idea? Paying money for health insurance from your tax would be good - then the people who actually pay into the system would get free healthcare and people who don't would have to pay?

So the people most in need of help would be left out in the cold? Lovely...

America's health system is terrible, I do not know why anyone would want a Insurance based system like that.

[Livia]

Not sure how a two year old statement from someone with no power over the NHS or anything else, has caused quite such a stir.

[armand.kay]

I kinda like the idea? Paying money for health insurance from your tax would be good - then the people who actually pay into the system would get free healthcare and people who don't would have to pay?

welp that would mean the chicks who are struggling the most would be left to die if they were for example, to get cancer.

[DemolitionRed]

I kinda like the idea? Paying money for health insurance from your tax would be good - then the people who actually pay into the system would get free healthcare and people who don't would have to pay?

The average American family pays $500 a month for the most basic insurance. If they’ve had an illness like cancer they become exempt from any treatment for future cancer. If you have diabetus when you start your policy, you will be exempt for diabetic treatment and any illness that could be related to diabetus. Medical insurance doesn’t insure you will be accepted for treatment and if you are not insured, a general GP visit could cost $100 and a prescription for something like an asthma would set you back $5,000 a year.

Deaths in America from the lack of affordable medical care is worse than most 3rd world countries. Do you really think its a good idea to follow their lead?

[DemolitionRed]

The EU’s push on austerity has driven our health care system to the brink. Its not only the British government that have been selling off their NHS. Spain, Greece, France, Italy, Portugal and Belgium have all been turning their health care systems into profitable commodities by selling them off to multinational corporations. The right wing wolves who are now circling Cameron’s position would continue down this commercialization of healthcare because their sponsors and they themselves have a finger in this very lucrative pie.

The NHS was doomed by the EU, especially with trade agreements like CETA, TTIP and TISA. It may still be doomed if we allow the wrong people to rule over us but that’s our choice now. The spotlight has been shone on the damage being done to our NHS and more and more people are now aware that they’ve been duped into believing the lies told by this Conservative government reg our NHS.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel Farage has no power at all to make a decision about the NHS. Hardly anyone on here has taken his statements as fact in the past... so why start now?

because he won and all the people on here who dont like him but grossly underestimated him are a wee bit pissed off to find egg all over their faces


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