Is anyone else fed up with the sound of Nicola Sturgeon's voice

[jaxie]

I can't tell you how sick I am of hearing this woman's voice. I am starting to believe if we'd heard a lot less from her during the campaign remain might have won!

On one hand she can't wait to get out of the UK on the other hand she wants to be ruled by the EU. Which makes no sense to me if you really do want to be independent. How are we supposed to feel any kind of affinity to someone who can't wait to see the back of us?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I can't tell you how sick I am of hearing this woman's voice. I am starting to believe if we'd heard a lot less from her during the campaign remain might have won!

On one hand she can't wait to get out of the UK on the other hand she wants to be ruled by the EU. Which makes no sense to me if you really do want to be independent. How are we supposed to feel any kind of affinity to someone who can't wait to see the back of us?

why do you care about her she is the First Minister of Scotland?


(and the only political leader with a positive rating with voters)

[Cherie]

Something we agree on Jaxie, she is desperate to walk away from the UK but needs someone who can prop the country as they can't survive on their own

[jaxie]

why do you care about her she is the First Minister of Scotland?


(and the only political leader with a positive rating with voters)

Because she won't get off my tv!

[Josy]

Yes I'm sick to death of the Jimmy Crankie lookalike pain in the arse. She doesn't speak for me and she never will!

[jaxie]

Something we agree on Jaxie, she is desperate to walk away from the UK but needs someone who can prop the country as they can't survive on their own

Aww I'm sure we agree on lots of things, just not on the EU.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because she won't get off my tv!

well that is incorrect. Have you seen her on TV today?

[Cherie]

Aww I'm sure we agree on lots of things, just not on the EU.

:love:

[jaxie]

well that is incorrect. Have you seen her on TV today?

Yes which is why I mentioned it she was just blathering on about the EU again.

[Josy]

well that is incorrect. Have you seen her on TV today?

I have

[Cherie]

She has just been on Sky...on her way to Brussels apparently...so you LT will be dragged kicking and screaming back into the EU :joker:

[user104658]

I can't tell you how sick I am of hearing this woman's voice. I am starting to believe if we'd heard a lot less from her during the campaign remain might have won!

On one hand she can't wait to get out of the UK on the other hand she wants to be ruled by the EU. Which makes no sense to me if you really do want to be independent. How are we supposed to feel any kind of affinity to someone who can't wait to see the back of us?

If you think the controls that the EU has over member states are even vaguely comparable to the sway that Westminster has over day-to-day life in Scotland, then you are unaware of just how much control that is. I find it quite funny that the same people who seem to be so pleased about Brexit, were saying a year ago that it was laughable that Scotland would want out of the smaller, and infinitely more controlling, UK union. Pff.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She was speaking at Holyrood


Please excuse her for working. Blame the news media for filming it and keep your xenophobia in Kent

[user104658]

She was speaking at Holyrood


Please excuse her for working. Blame the news media for filming it and keep your xenophobia in Kent

Well exactly... I think people are forgetting that she is still the First Minister of Scotland at that with the political **** hitting the fan she actually has quite a lot of reason to be in the media. She can't flouce off into the sunset like Dropout Dave or go into silent hiding like the Brexit Tories. She was elected to represent the Scottish people, and is doing so, based on the result of the referendum north of the border.

[Cherie]

Apparently she has been told by Brussels now is not the time to meet ..oop

[_Tom_]

I certainly am - sick to death of hearing and seeing the woman!

[Kizzy]

I like her , she has a valid point and she's speaking on behalf of the country she represents :shrug:

[Johnnyuk123]

Apparently she has been told by Brussels now is not the time to meet ..oop

Spain won't let them in.

[LaLaLand]

I totally agree OP, she does my head in - wants EU rule yet Scottish independence!

In Wales we have a woman called Leanne Wood who's the leader of the party Plaid Cymru who is basically trying to be the Welsh Sturgeon, always banging on about Wales being independent, absolute idiot.

[lewis111]

She's just doing her job... What's she meant to do have no opinions on anything

And I think she speaks for the majority of her country when she says she wants to be part of the EU and not uk (as polls are showing Independance is more popular now)

[Wizard.]

Apparently she has been told by Brussels now is not the time to meet ..oop

oops she's been dragged. back to scotland you go sh*t-sturgeon

[Crimson Dynamo]

at least Scotland has someone in charge not like England

who cant even beat Iceland

:fan:

(who actually is in charge of England, Nigel Farage?)

[jaxie]

She was speaking at Holyrood


Please excuse her for working. Blame the news media for filming it and keep your xenophobia in Kent

:nono:

[Greg!]

Um no she's the only one speaking any sense

[jaxie]

at least Scotland has someone in charge not like England

who cant even beat Iceland

:fan:

(who actually is in charge of England, Nigel Farage?)

So you are anti EU but pro Sturgeon and all she stands for?

[Crimson Dynamo]

So you are anti EU but pro Sturgeon and all she stands for?

I judge her and her party by the job they are doing in Scotland

[Liberty4eva]

Until a few days ago I had never heard of her. I think she has a cute accent but the words that come out of her mouth make it seem like she thinks Scotland deserves special privilege. There were 39% of Scots who voted to leave. If those Scots had voted differently the Remain side would have won. Does the rest of the UK have to follow what the majority of this small region wants?

[jaxie]

I judge her and her party by the job they are doing in Scotland

And when she keeps you in EU and takes you out of UK?

[Johnnyuk123]

at least Scotland has someone in charge not like England

who cant even beat Iceland

:fan:

(who actually is in charge of England, Nigel Farage?)

They are offering 2 for 1 over at Iceland now. Bargain!:laugh:

[Cherie]

So you are anti EU but pro Sturgeon and all she stands for?

:fan:

[Kizzy]

And when she keeps you in EU and takes you out of UK?

That's looking the best option right at this moment.... And sadly I don't live in Scotland.

[Cherie]

That's looking the best option right at this moment.... And sadly I don't live in Scotland.

You could move in with LT he has a spare room?

[_Tom_]

Apparently she has been told by Brussels now is not the time to meet ..oop

Indeed she has:

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:fan:

[DemolitionRed]

So you are anti EU but pro Sturgeon and all she stands for?

I know that question wasn’t aimed at me but as a Brexit supporter and someone who also stands behind the Scottish leader, I can at least explain my reasoning.

Scotland have one hell of a deficit because the British government failed to protect the Scots when oil prices plummeted. For Scotland to come out of the EU and remain with Britain would ensure economical problems for Scotland. The EU presently give Scotland the protection it needs.

The problem Scotland have with re-joining the EU is, they are a small country with a large deficit and a left wing government...everything the EU isn't interested in.

She of all people has a right to be angry.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You could move in with LT he has a spare room?

if she can hoover and put the cover on the quilts when they have been washed I will provide all the horizontal refreshment she requires

:hee:

[Greg!]

Until a few days ago I had never heard of her. I think she has a cute accent but the words that come out of her mouth make it seem like she thinks Scotland deserves special privilege. There were 39% of Scots who voted to leave. If those Scots had voted differently the Remain side would have won. Does the rest of the UK have to follow what the majority of this small region wants?

Lol "small region". Scotland is a country and she's not trying to get "special privilege" she's just trying to get what Scotland voted for which is to stay in the EU

[Greg!]

Indeed she has:

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:fan:

She's never said she's going to meet him though? She's meeting other people. I'm sure Donald tusk has about a million meetings so he's too busy

[Johnnyuk123]

Lol "small region". Scotland is a country and she's not trying to get "special privilege" she's just trying to get what Scotland voted for which is to stay in the EU

It wasn't a Scottish referendum though was it? It was a UK referendum. Big difference.

[Greg!]

It wasn't a Scottish referendum though was it? It was a UK referendum. Big difference.

Oh that's ok then she should just ignore what Scottish people voted for!!!! :rolleyes:

[Johnnyuk123]

Oh that's ok then she should just ignore what Scottish people voted for!!!! :rolleyes:

She should accept what the UK voted for. yes.

[arista]

Oh that's ok then she should just ignore what Scottish people voted for!!!! :rolleyes:


No Z


Some Up there Also Voted to LEAVE

Not EVERY voter was Remain

So roll your eyes now

[arista]

She should accept what the UK voted for. yes.


Yes FECKING will


My PM told Her

[Greg!]

No Z


Some Up there Also Voted to LEAVE

Not EVERY voter was Remain

So roll your eyes now

Yes but the vast majority voted to remain :umm2:

[arista]

She's never said she's going to meet him though? She's meeting other people. I'm sure Donald tusk has about a million meetings so he's too busy



Yes thats the Problem
Secret Meetings - DIRTY deals


FECK THE EU

[Johnnyuk123]

Yes but the vast majority voted to remain :umm2:

But is wasn't a Scottish referendum. If it was then yes you would be right.

[arista]

Yes but the vast majority voted to remain :umm2:



Yes
but not all.

Anyway We Won
You Lost


Feel The Force

[arista]

But is wasn't a Scottish referendum. If it was then yes you would be right.



Yes its UK
All of UK


And WE WON

[joeysteele]

Not me, I am quite a fan of Nicola and am agreeing with all she says as to this EU issue too.

[Greg!]

But is wasn't a Scottish referendum. If it was then yes you would be right.

I don't care. Most people in Scotland voted to stay so I support any attempt to keep Scotland in. I think you're just a tad pressed that most Scottish people didn't believe Nigel Farage's lies

[arista]

Not me, I am quite a fan of Nicola and am agreeing with all she says as to this EU issue too.



How Nice

[Johnnyuk123]

She is there to represent ALL of the Scottish people isn't she? Not just the ones who voted the way she wanted.:nono:

[arista]

I don't care. Most people in Scotland voted to stay so I support any attempt to keep Scotland in. I think you're just a tad pressed that most Scottish people didn't believe Nigel Farage's lies



I was Conservative Leave
I think their Bus had the Error/

Sorry

[jaxie]

if she can hoover and put the cover on the quilts when they have been washed I will provide all the horizontal refreshment she requires

:hee:

There is a trick to the latter. Turn the duvet cover inside out, lay the duvet on top, put your hands inside the inside out cover and grab the top corners of both and pull through, shake a little as you go.

[arista]

She is there to represent ALL of the Scottish people isn't she? Not just the ones who voted the way she wanted.:nono:



I got Angry at BBC Parliament
as they switched to Scotland once she started talking


I muted them put FoxBussinesNewsHD sound back on

[jaxie]

I know that question wasn’t aimed at me but as a Brexit supporter and someone who also stands behind the Scottish leader, I can at least explain my reasoning.

Scotland have one hell of a deficit because the British government failed to protect the Scots when oil prices plummeted. For Scotland to come out of the EU and remain with Britain would ensure economical problems for Scotland. The EU presently give Scotland the protection it needs.

The problem Scotland have with re-joining the EU is, they are a small country with a large deficit and a left wing government...everything the EU isn't interested in.

She of all people has a right to be angry.

Well I was just remarking that she gets on nerves but as to the politics of it all, she also represents the 39% of Scots who voted to leave. Doesn't she represent them too or don't their opinions count as much as hers because they differ?

[Johnnyuk123]

I got Angry at BBC Parliament
as they switched to Scotland once she started talking


I muted them put FoxBussinesNewsHD sound back on

It's the very same old BBC that get a very large cash handout from the EU isn't it?

[arista]

It's the very same old BBC that get a very large cash handout from the EU isn't it?


No its a UK Public TAX


they need 2 channels I guess

[kirklancaster]

Yes I'm sick to death of the Jimmy Crankie lookalike pain in the arse. She doesn't speak for me and she never will!

:worship::worship::worship:

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[Johnnyuk123]

:worship::worship::worship:

FANTAZIDOBIE

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Hey welcome back Kirk! I've missed you. :hug:

[arista]

:worship::worship::worship:

FANTAZIDOBIE

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Yes thats the Lady
Kirk

[kirklancaster]

Hey welcome back Kirk! I've missed you. :hug:

Thanks Johnny - At least our holidays overlapped and gave us a bit of 'quality time' together. :laugh:

[Kizzy]

if she can hoover and put the cover on the quilts when they have been washed I will provide all the horizontal refreshment she requires

:hee:


:umm2:

[Johnnyuk123]

Thanks Johnny - At least our holidays overlapped and gave us a bit of 'quality time' together. :laugh:

They sure did and with many more to come. :joker:

[kirklancaster]

There is a trick to the latter. Turn the duvet cover inside out, lay the duvet on top, put your hands inside the inside out cover and grab the top corners of both and pull through, shake a little as you go.

Are you referring to LT with a Duver Jaxie? Or to LT negotiating Sturgeon's knickers? :laugh:

[Kazanne]

Scots don't want it apparently
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/683755/Nicola-Sturgeon-SNP-Scottish-independence-EU-referendum-Brexit

[jaxie]

Are you referring to LT with a Duver Jaxie? Or to LT negotiating Sturgeon's knickers? :laugh:

:hehe:

[Kizzy]

Statistics which will embarrass the party leader show the SNP is Scotland's most Eurosceptic party, with 29 per cent of voters having backed Leave last week.

29% of one party is not Scotland though is it?

[Amy Jade]

I can't bear her!

[Greg!]

Scots don't want it apparently
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/683755/Nicola-Sturgeon-SNP-Scottish-independence-EU-referendum-Brexit

Reaching

Also the same company that did that poll found most scots now support independence in the EU

[reece(:]

Legend Nicola!

Mocking her appearance is just childish

[empire]

SNP leader krankie is throwing her toys out of the pram, because she knows that scotland won't be a member of the EU and there independence won't happen, because england and wales has left the eu building, she made a prick of herself, by saying that, I will block the brexit vote, she can't,

[Vicky.]

She always comes across really uppity. The welsh leader person is worse, really cannot stand her...

[seanraff07]

Bring on Indy Ref 2.

[user104658]

She should accept what the UK voted for. yes.

She was elected in Scotland by Scottish people and so does not represent, nor owe anything to, the rest of the UK? :shrug:

Also Johnny... you keep insisting that she should represent the other 39% and not "Just" the 61% who voted "in"... ... can I ask why this logic suddenly flies out the window when it comes to English politicians and Brexit? All of a sudden it becomes fine that Brexit only represents a measly 52% and the other 48% are irrelevant? Ridiculous hypocrisy.

[Wizard.]

Those people who supported to remain the EU whose ideas of working together and the idea that "people fought for peace and for us to come together" are contradicting themselves when they say "SLAYY Nicola you go for independence girl".

[Greg!]

Those people who supported to remain the EU whose ideas of working together and the idea that "people fought for peace and for us to come together" are contradicting themselves when they say "SLAYY Nicola you go for independence girl".

The EU is completely different from the UK and pretending otherwise is a tad silly

[Johnnyuk123]

I Sturgeon keeps on talking like this she will talk herself right out of a job. You go girl!

[microscope]

Yes I am definitely not a fan of her voice, it grates on me :yuk:

She should stay in Scotland and be locked there for the rest of her life. She is not interested in the words, "United Kingdom". She is not interested in words , "Great Britain" either. Her words of interest is, "Scotland for Independance" and ******* the rest of us!!!!!

[Greg!]

I Sturgeon keeps on talking like this she will talk herself right out of a job. You go girl!

a tad delusional she is making haself more popular than ever!

[reece(:]

I Sturgeon keeps on talking like this she will talk herself right out of a job. You go girl!

She'll never be as penniless as the man in your avi

[Vicky.]

The EU is completely different from the UK and pretending otherwise is a tad silly

Indeed.

However I do think, the Scottish voters knew there was a chance the UK would vote out of the EU when they had the last referendum.

I think another referendum would be fair still though, given they have been totally overruled...basically. Same for NI.

I still don't think the majority of Scots would actually go for independence though, especially at a time when EVERYTHING is up in the air. As I understand it too, Scotland would have to 'apply' to be in the Eu also and could be rejected?

[Wizard.]

The EU is completely different from the UK and pretending otherwise is a tad silly

Of course it's different, in fact, Scotland leaving the UK is worse than the UK leaving the EU.

[Wizard.]

People go on about "little England" but what will Scotland be without London? This is why Nicola is committed to being in the EU talks with Brussells because she needs to be sure that Scotland will have trade, but as a United Kingdom can trade world worldwide, who will trade with Scotland?

[Greg!]

Of course it's different, in fact, Scotland leaving the UK is worse than the UK leaving the EU.

many people only voted to stay in the UK because they were promised Scotland would remain in the EU, and support for independence has now surged, so I think most scots disagree with you

[Wizard.]

many people only voted to stay in the UK because they were promised Scotland would remain in the EU, and support for independence has now surged, so I think most scots disagree with you

They can disagree, but if Nicola ensures Scotland that they can join the EU if they leave the UK, and they leave but Spain veto them joining, then Scotland are stuck in no mans land and may have to face the embarrassment of re joining England, Wales and Northern Ireland which hopefully would result in the sacking of Ms Sturgeon.

[joeysteele]

many people only voted to stay in the UK because they were promised Scotland would remain in the EU, and support for independence has now surged, so I think most scots disagree with you

There's conflicting polling but what are polls, they got the general election wrong, they got the EU referendum wrong too.

It is time these organisations were controlled and polls banned in the week before polling and to issue a lot less of them too.

However the support for independence while not for sure yet over the 50% margin,has risen to just about that from average polling since the referendum.

You are correct too, as to Scotland believing they would remain in the EU if they rejected independence last time.
Again from the shocking polling,at the time of the referendum in Scotland, no party looked like having a hope of getting an overall majority in the election of May last year.
So no expectation in reality of a EU referendum was on the cards,also the Scots were told by English politicians and govt,that the best way to secure their future in the EU was to vote to stay in the UK.

Nicola is right, they were misled and indeed a 2nd independence is in order if the Scots want one.
She has a mandate for it, if there is a major change,she got 47% in the elections to Holyrood earlier this year and she also has the Greens who also supported another independence referendum, if a major change came about.

Honestly no wonder England voted to leave the EU,it cannot even stand its own other Nations in the UK,with some of the acidic comments made about Scotland.
Really awful, United kingdom, more like severely Disunited Kingdom,unless it appears all the rest of the UK follows only England's will.

[Johnnyuk123]

There are many people in the UK who say they are pro democracy until a vote doesn't go there way. The hypocrisy is real.

[kirklancaster]

There are many people in the UK who say they are pro democracy until a vote doesn't go there way. The hypocrisy is real.

Sad but true Johnny.

[hijaxers]

I can't tell you how sick I am of hearing this woman's voice. I am starting to believe if we'd heard a lot less from her during the campaign remain might have won!

On one hand she can't wait to get out of the UK on the other hand she wants to be ruled by the EU. Which makes no sense to me if you really do want to be independent. How are we supposed to feel any kind of affinity to someone who can't wait to see the back of us?

Too right i am and i have been ever since she graced the screen, wow the stylists have turned her from Mrs dumpling to Mrs Get right on yer ******in nerves . Piss off i'm mega totally sick of the bloody sight of you - nevermind the voice, dog with a bone, she's gonna make everyone hate the Scots if she don't shut up.

[user104658]

Too right i am and i have been ever since she graced the screen, wow the stylists have turned her from Mrs dumpling to Mrs Get right on yer ******in nerves . Piss off i'm mega totally sick of the bloody sight of you - nevermind the voice, dog with a bone, she's gonna make everyone hate the Scots if she don't shut up.

I think a good proportion of the English already hate the Scots (along with everyone else), so why not? England for the English, all Englandy with its Englishness in isolation. Bliss, surely?

[Kizzy]

I think a good proportion of the English already hate the Scots (along with everyone else), so why not? England for the English, all Englandy with its Englishness in isolation. Bliss, surely?

There is that faction, yes but we're not all like that nor are we all the knuckle draggers telling people born here to 'go home'.
Let's not start putting entire nations in boxes :nono:

[chuff me dizzy]

She forgets over 1m voted to LEAVE,with only 67% bothering to even vote ........ She doesn't speak for the Scottish people

[joeysteele]

She forgets over 1m voted to LEAVE,with only 67% bothering to even vote ........ She doesn't speak for the Scottish people

How is that she should be taking notice of the 38% who voted leave,67% turnout is still better than the UK often gets in general elections to elect its whole government, it is two thirds of the population who are eligible to vote.

Why should it be that all anyone now has to do is accept in full with no other analysis,a very narrow 4% win for leave.

Had had this been a 4% win for remain, the cries for a further referendum would have been likely deafening from the leave side, in my view view rightly too, and the cause not given up on at all, they would be pointing to the fact that 2 Nations voted to leave too.

Nicola Sturgeon leads the Nation that had the biggest margin result in the referendum, a 24% majority to remain.
Of course as Scotland's leader she has to act on that.

The next highest margin result of this referendum, was Northern Ireland who voted by by a margin of 11% to remain.

The 2 weaker results came from Wales with a 5% majority to leave and in fact England with only a 6.8% majority to leave too.
England only carrying this because it is the larger populated Nation in the UK

This referendum has only opened up more divisions than it settled but no one please try to tell me had this been a 4% win for remain, that all sorts of arguments would not be coming forward from most on the leave side,particularly highlighting the fact 2 Nations had voted to leave too.

No one is saying England and Wales will not be leaving the EU, however if she can Nicola sturgeon has to do all she can from her result, to protect any status she can as to Scotland remaining in the EU.
That she owes to the clear and decisive 64% who voted to remain.

A narrow 4% win for leave with 2 Nations voting to remain, is not an overwhelming result, even Boris Johnson admits that.

Had this been reversed, the same division and doubt and analysis over the result would have been justified too in my opinion.

[jaxie]

I think a good proportion of the English already hate the Scots (along with everyone else), so why not? England for the English, all Englandy with its Englishness in isolation. Bliss, surely?

That's racism right there projected and real.

[user104658]

That's racism right there projected and real.
Of course it is.

[Kizzy]

That's racism right there projected and real.

No, it really isn't.