View Full Version : British Airways air hostess 'made to feel like a prostitute' by workplace dress rules
Crimson Dynamo
29-06-2016, 01:39 PM
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An air hostess has claimed she was made to feel like a “prostitute” when she was asked to wear high heels and make-up at work.
Ruth Campion claimed at an MPs' inquiry into dress codes at work that she was required by British Airways to look “sexy” during her two year stint with the airline.
She said at the hearing yesterday: “For an employer to tell me that I need to do that in order for the business to have a certain image, it made me akin to being prostituted.”
Miss Campion said she felt “dehumanised” and “humiliated... to be made to specifically wear items of uniform that sexualised my appearance or enhanced my sexuality”.
The inquiry was set up after agency worker Nicola Thorp, 27, arrived for work at the office of a City accountancy firm in flat shoes and was sent home when she refused to wear stilettos.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/british-airways-hostess-made-to-feel-like-a-prostitute-by-workplace-dress-rules-a3283496.html
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i agree with her in principle, but i think she is stretching her comparison a tad. :laugh:
Please note, prostitutes are entitled to wear what they want and should not be stereotyped
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 01:44 PM
I think it's ridiculous to insist that women wear high heels to work, look "smart" yes but you can look smart without being forced to wear painful heels for a job where you're on your feet all day especially....... Also, how exactly does it effect their business, I have never heard of anyone booking a certain flight because the staff are sexy :laugh:
armand.kay
29-06-2016, 01:47 PM
Yeah I don't see how not wearing heals and make up would at all effect how capable they are at their job. If take pride in their appearance when coming to work, look presentable and wear the uniform then I don't see the problem.
Kizzy
29-06-2016, 01:48 PM
I'm surprised that it's not against health and safety to wear heels on a plane tbh, if your centre of gravity is already compromised and there's turbulence wouldn't that be dangerous?...
I always thought the red lipstick idea was ridic... outdated silly rules that need changing.
arista
29-06-2016, 01:48 PM
I think it's ridiculous to insist that women wear high heels to work, look "smart" yes but you can look smart without being forced to wear painful heels for a job where you're on your feet all day especially....... Also, how exactly does it effect their business, I have never heard of anyone booking a certain flight because the staff are sexy :laugh:
On Ch5HD Live AM
the MP and a Lady with a MBE said
the same as you
Crimson Dynamo
29-06-2016, 01:51 PM
I think they should wear heels for boarding and getting off and change to flats for the grunt work during the flight.
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 01:52 PM
I think they should wear heels for boarding and getting off and change to flats for the grunt work during the flight.
why?
Crimson Dynamo
29-06-2016, 01:57 PM
why?
More attractive to the male business users = more business
also looks better in the same way that 99.99% of women will wear high heels if attending a function or night out where they want to impress men
By that logic the pilots should be shirtless to attract female flyers
Crimson Dynamo
29-06-2016, 02:01 PM
By that logic the pilots should be shirtless to attract female flyers
They are not customer facing but it seems a pilot in a uniform is ideal for most women anyroad
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:04 PM
More attractive to the male business users = more business
also looks better in the same way that 99.99% of women will wear high heels if attending a function or night out where they want to impress men
so her analogy of feeling like a prostitute wasn't actually that far off the mark after all :think:
Crimson Dynamo
29-06-2016, 02:06 PM
so her analogy of feeling like a prostitute wasn't actually that far off the mark after all :think:
no because you are not allowed to have sex with the air hostesses no matter how hot they look
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:07 PM
no because you are not allowed to have sex with the air hostesses no matter how hot they look
But you want to encourage men leering and making you feel uncomfortable? gross, draconian attitude LT
Crimson Dynamo
29-06-2016, 02:10 PM
But you want to encourage men leering and making you feel uncomfortable? gross, draconian attitude LT
No different than wearing a tight top and high heels on a night out. Attractive women are well used to the leering eyes of men
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:11 PM
No different than wearing a tight top and high heels on a night out. Attractive women are well used to the leering eyes of men
That would be their choice though, no one should be forced to wear something they're not comfortable wearing
Crimson Dynamo
29-06-2016, 02:12 PM
That would be their choice though, no one should be forced to wear something they're not comfortable wearing
They are getting paid and sign up to it, no drama here
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:16 PM
They are getting paid and sign up to it, no drama here
They sign up to wear a uniform, is there heels and make up written into that? And even if it is, woman very much have the right to get that s**t banned from working contracts, do the male flight attendants have to wear heels? I would very much doubt it, so they're allowed to have shoes that don't cause damage to their health and are allowed to be free from feeling like sex objects while serving tea & coffee, that's discrimination.
arista
29-06-2016, 02:22 PM
"encourage men leering"
Its What Men And Women do.
On LWHD (itv) they leer a Fecking LOT
Cherie
29-06-2016, 02:25 PM
More attractive to the male business users = more business
also looks better in the same way that 99.99% of women will wear high heels if attending a function or night out where they want to impress men
Buiness men book the most convenient flight, they don't miss their meeting so they can get on the sexy flight :joker:
Women dress to make themselves feel good LT
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:25 PM
"encourage men leering"
Its What Men And Women do.
On LWHD (itv) they leer a Fecking LOT
:nono:
I just want a nice cup of coffee when i fly, thanks Arista
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:25 PM
Buiness men book the most convenient flight, they don't miss their meeting so they can get on the sexy flight :joker:
Women dress to make themselves feel good LT
:laugh2:
Cherie
29-06-2016, 02:27 PM
Also in these austere times they are all on Ryanair flights, who seem to have a lot of male stewards :smug:
They are getting paid and sign up to it, no drama here
..there is a 'drama' though which is why the MP inquiry is happening atm to look into company dress codes which are unreasonable to an employee's comfort in their job, when that discomfort is only being asked and expected of one gender/females...it would only be something that they could asked to sign up for if it was applicable to both genders...
...some of the other airline examples given are not being allowed to wear a cardigan or cover their arms because it's apparently deemed 'frumpy'...and with shop assistants..female shop assistants being asked to unbutton their blouse and 'flirt a little' with male customers...
user104658
29-06-2016, 02:36 PM
Last flight I was on (EasyJet, woop woop!) the flight attendant was a very flamboyantly camp Glaswegian lad. His interactions with the group of increasingly-drunk 30-40 year old guys clearly off on a "blokes holiday" actually made up the bulk of my in flight entertainment :joker:. "Och! Right! That's it fellaz, A'm cuttin' yeez aff!" as he grabs the mini-cans of Budweiser back from them and storms off dramatically. Heh...
But yeah, on topic, bloody stupid job to require hells for :shrug:. Impractical and pointless.
Also in these austere times they are all on Ryanair flights, who seem to have a lot of male stewards :smug:
99.9% are gay
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:37 PM
Last flight I was on (EasyJet, woop woop!) the flight attendant was a very flamboyantly camp Glaswegian lad. His interactions with the group of increasingly-drunk 30-40 year old guys clearly off on a "blokes holiday" actually made up the bulk of my in flight entertainment :joker:. "Och! Right! That's it fellaz, A'm cuttin' yeez aff!" as he grabs the mini-cans of Budweiser back from them and storms off dramatically. Heh...
But yeah, on topic, bloody stupid job to require hells for :shrug:. Impractical and pointless.
Freudian slip :fan:
smudgie
29-06-2016, 02:37 PM
Stick them all in boiler suits for all I care. :idc:
arista
29-06-2016, 02:42 PM
Stick them all in boiler suits for all I care. :idc:
I think there is a Sex group
of that
arista
29-06-2016, 02:43 PM
:nono:
I just want a nice cup of coffee when i fly, thanks Arista
So long as its paid for
no problem
Cherie
29-06-2016, 02:43 PM
99.9% are gay
I had noticed :laugh:
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:45 PM
So long as its paid for
no problem
I hope you're not accusing me of thievery Arista :o
Tom4784
29-06-2016, 02:47 PM
Men aren't forced to wear high heels or make up so women shouldn't be either. It's quite simple really.
..there is a 'drama' though which is why the MP inquiry is happening atm to look into company dress codes which are unreasonable to an employee's comfort in their job, when that discomfort is only being asked and expected of one gender/females...it would only be something that they could asked to sign up for if it was applicable to both genders...
...some of the other airline examples given are not being allowed to wear a cardigan or cover their arms because it's apparently deemed 'frumpy'...and with shop assistants..female shop assistants being asked to unbutton their blouse and 'flirt a little' with male customers...
Did they publish a list of the shops with this policy? :whistle:
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:52 PM
Did they publish a list of the shops with this policy? :whistle:
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arista
29-06-2016, 02:53 PM
I hope you're not accusing me of thievery Arista :o
No I mean
Hot drinks are rare
on budget flighs
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 02:55 PM
No I mean
Hot drinks are rare
on budget flighs
Oh, I'm mainly a Ryanair flier tbh, unlike LT I buy flights based on price and convenience rather than sexy flight attendants :fan:
arista
29-06-2016, 02:56 PM
Men aren't forced to wear high heels or make up so women shouldn't be either. It's quite simple really.
But the men do,
do Make Up
on their faces
Cherie
29-06-2016, 02:57 PM
Did they publish a list of the shops with this policy? :whistle:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/animalcrossing/images/c/c9/Penguin-slap-o.gif/revision/20140601023742
:joker:
Tom4784
29-06-2016, 02:57 PM
But the men do,
do Make Up
on their faces
If they do, it's optional. It's not an enforced dress code.
Crimson Dynamo
29-06-2016, 02:59 PM
If they do, it's optional. It's not an enforced dress code.
men are forced to wear suits and ties
Crimson Dynamo
29-06-2016, 03:00 PM
Buiness men book the most convenient flight, they don't miss their meeting so they can get on the sexy flight :joker:
Women dress to make themselves feel good LT
:joker:
I was hoping that old chestnut would get an airing
Niamh.
29-06-2016, 03:01 PM
men are forced to wear suits and ties
and the woman have a uniform also, neither are potentially damaging to you health or painful to wear unlike heels
arista
29-06-2016, 03:04 PM
Oh, I'm mainly a Ryanair flier tbh, unlike LT I buy flights based on price and convenience rather than sexy flight attendants :fan:
OK
AnnieK
29-06-2016, 03:19 PM
My sister in law is a Purser for BA so I have messaged to ask what her contract for dress code is. I thought it was just that they had to be smart in appearance - I have seen flight attendants in flats before though once they are doing the drinks service etc.
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